/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19396490]

How can such an enormous country with immense wealth be so devoid of literary talent?

[Anonymous No.19396499]

>>19396490
You couldn't be more.wrong OP. Literature is one of the few things that is great about America.

[Anonymous No.19396506]

literature is as old as god and the us is as old as the steam engine. also not true. hemingway is cool

[Anonymous No.19396512]

>>19396490
It's because America is more of a company than an actual country.

[v_v !!+e0M0fBMYzt No.19396515]

for one, it's not a country
it's an open air prison camp

[Anonymous No.19396540]

>>19396490
America is based

[Anonymous No.19396566]

Tocqueville touched on this. The French aristocratic social scientist that wrote Democracy in America. His observations were that in America money decided the value of everything. So in America a book couldn’t be considered any good if it didn’t sell well or didn’t create enough social capital to gain recognition. He said by contrast in France and also is true of many other European countries. They value art for art’s sake. Literature for literature’s sake. In essence, the promise of royalties is probably what stops good authors from being great authors. Think of Nabokov’s Lolita. He was from Russia and devoted to crafting literature. Lolita at first was a pariah not popular and wouldn’t have passed the golden checklist of politically correct capitalist propaganda.

[v_v !!+e0M0fBMYzt No.19396573]

>>19396566
>His observations were that in America money decided the value of everything.
wrong. discarded

[Anonymous No.19396589]

>>19396490
It's actually surprising how much literary talent America has produced when you consider its extreme anti-intellectual culture.

[Anonymous No.19396668]

>>19396589
this

[Anonymous No.19396806]

>>19396490
> t. jealous Euro

[Anonymous No.19396807]

>>19396573
He's not wrong tripfaggot.

[v_v !!+e0M0fBMYzt No.19396938]

>>19396807
ameriKKKa is a puritan shithole where the status quo of value is whatever makes you the optimal beast of burden
take for example >>19396432. OP is probably an ameriKKKan since it seems in their little atrophied dog brain anything that isn't immediately work or sleep is boxed into the utilitarian time categories of "leisure" or "entertainment" that can be exchanged for better optimization. not even in arguably more capitalist and money-oriented societies does this mindset really exist. it's a uniquely amerikkkan phenomenon

[Anonymous No.19396962]

>>19396490
The yankees destroyed the southern aristocracy on a fiery raping rampage and thus destroyed the last vestiges of true literary potential.

[Anonymous No.19396966]

>>19396938
>ameriKKKa

stopped reading there. try being reasonable next time.

[Anonymous No.19396969]

>>19396938
nigger hands typed this peanut nigger brain conceived post

[Anonymous No.19396995]

>>19396969
niggers tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.19397000]

Hemingway, Steinbeck

I could go on, but I don't need to.

[Anonymous No.19397016]

I hate america and americans but I do have to admit that there are many american authors that I enjoy
It hurts me but to deny it would be delusional

[Anonymous No.19397026]

>>19396490
The better question no one asks is how just New England and Louisiana basically comprise like 70% of worthwhile American literature?

[v_v !!+e0M0fBMYzt No.19397032]

>>19396966
>>19396969

[Anonymous No.19397243]

Help me finish the rest of this "best books by state set in" map?

[Anonymous No.19397262]

>>19396490
I think American literature is great. Its just that your cunt is really diverse you didn't produce a national epic to the level of Italy's Iliad, or Spain's Don Quixote

[Anonymous No.19397308]

>>19396962
>The yankees destroyed the southern aristocracy on a fiery raping rampage
Good.

[Anonymous No.19397312]

>>19396512
corny

[Anonymous No.19397386]

>>19396490
American novels are good but not top tier.
American poetry is meh except for a couple of names like Wallace Stevens.

[Anonymous No.19397486]

muttmerica isn t a real contry, is just the industrial playground for the jews

[Anonymous No.19397490]

>>19396566
As a full fledged ancap I would say that I believe that the market rules tend to deteriorate the quality of art (and I am willing to sacrifice this for overall freedom), but I will also say that I am pretty fucking sure that an extremely valuable art (by quality, not monetary standards) is being created daily in the US but it is almost impossible to find in a flood of commercial shit.

[Anonymous No.19397564]

>>19397386
Poetry is fucking gay and rhyming is embarassing

[Anonymous No.19397590]

>>19397262
>Italy's Iliad
Anon I...

[Anonymous No.19397596]

>>19397564
>Poetry is fucking gay
Half this fucking chart is poetry
>>19396499

[Anonymous No.19397601]

>>19396490
I like post modernism but it is an acquired taste so I get why you would think this since aside for those author there aren't really many great ones. Steinbeck and James are great and so is Melville although it is embarrassing how much mutts ride his dick (no pun intended)

[Anonymous No.19397796]

>>19396499
>that pic
Literal whos, all of them.

[Anonymous No.19397804]

>>19397000
> posts two nobodies
>I could go on
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.19397813]

>>19397262
Moby Dick is clearly America's Iliad

[Anonymous No.19397837]

>>19396938
NIGGERUNDAYO FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.19397952]

>>19396490
Kek. Replace it with the whole of China, or even of Europe. Same ol' *want* of song, and dance

[Anonymous No.19398195]

>>19397796
You don't read

[Anonymous No.19398223]

>>19397596
If you think poetry is gay, you are a pleb.

[Anonymous No.19398331]

>>19397796
>>19397804

>Doesn’t know any of the most basic bitch authors

Lurk more, newfags

[Anonymous No.19398338]

>>19398195
>>19398331
>>19398223
Cope.

[Anonymous No.19398521]

??? Literature is the one area of the arts in which Americans have always excelled, is everyone here retarded?

[Anonymous No.19398534]

>>19396490
The USA has great literature. This is from a non-American who doesn’t particularly care for the country or it’s people

[Anonymous No.19398554]

>>19398331
>Lurk more, newfags
oh shut the fuck up loser

[Anonymous No.19398578]

>>19398554
Back to plebbit sweetheart

[Anonymous No.19398610]

>>19398534
Name ONE good book from America.

[Anonymous No.19398617]

>>19398578
>Back to plebbit sweetheart
weird

[Anonymous No.19398619]

>>19398610
See>>19396499

[Anonymous No.19398623]

>>19396490
>t. South American

[Anonymous No.19398641]

>>19397243
I'm sorry but that is an ugly map I can't tell shit. Just put the name of the book in black letters on white background

[Anonymous No.19398645]

>>19398610
Book of the New Sun.
Come at me nigger

[Anonymous No.19398788]

>>19396499
I consider myself pretty well read and I haven't even read 20% of these. Damn.

[Anonymous No.19398791]

>>19396490
Just like Rome.

[Anonymous No.19398825]

>>19398788
Then you’re not well read. Just accept it already.

[Anonymous No.19398835]

>>19396490
Contrarian b8 bread

[Anonymous No.19398896]

>>19398610
You’re just going to argue in bad faith so it’s not even worth the time. Every country has some great literature

[Anonymous No.19398987]

>>19398619
>>19398645
Pff, haha nice copes faggots

>>19398896
Correct.

[Anonymous No.19399035]

>>19398645
lol

[Anonymous No.19399054]

>>19397243
>ready player one
do 56ers really?

[Anonymous No.19399078]

>>19396499
Anon ...

[Anonymous No.19399146]

>>19397308
No.

[Anonymous No.19399438]

>>19396490
look at the literary output of mainland classical greece alone, now compare it to the output of the western roman empire in its entire history.

[Anonymous No.19399561]

>>19399438
I was about the make the same comparison. You usually have 'muscly' empires with money and military that dominant swathes of land, yet their contribution to art pales in comparison other smaller nations that orbit them. That isn't to say they don't serve a purpose. The presence of such powers is stabilizing in the region so that other's can prosper in other areas

[Anonymous No.19399592]

Cultural philistinism, anything considered high art is kind of against the national spirit. There’s some good American literature for sure, but IMO there’s no great American art tradition with any political or social weight behind it.

[Anonymous No.19399593]

>>19399054
>Child safety tips from a pedophile
>youtube.com/watch?v=R0nnU71ggro
From the Onion. I think all of the others are real, just mostly from shitty daytime television.

[Anonymous No.19399677]

>>19397243
to kill a mockingbird for alabama

[Anonymous No.19400085]

>>19397243
wounded knee didn't occur anywhere near new mexico

[Anonymous No.19400113]

>>19400085
Yeah, it occurred in Skyrim

[Anonymous No.19400238]

Only two hundred years old country, most of the land untamed wilderness with only wild animals and illiterates, why they wrote few books? It's a mystery!