/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19385497]

>In two of the largest studies ever conducted into the reading habits of children in the United Kingdom, Keith Topping—a professor of educational and social research at Scotland’s University of Dundee—found that boys dedicate less time than girls to processing words, that they’re more prone to skipping passages or entire sections, and that they frequently choose books that are beneath their reading levels.
Why aren't boys reading as much as girls?

[Anonymous No.19385512]

>>19385497
Doesn't sound like me and I'm a boy (27 y/o)

[Anonymous No.19385513]

lack of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the publishing industry, obviously. what else could it possibly be?

[Anonymous No.19385529]

>>19385497
Books aren't created for young boys anymore. They're discouraged from reading anything that would forge them into a virtuous man by having it labeled as problematic. They are taught to quieten themselves, hide their nature, and allow patterns of effeminacy to take a hold of their lives.

[Anonymous No.19385598]

>>19385497
>they frequently choose books that are beneath their reading levels
But all adult women just read children’s book anyway so it evens out

[Anonymous No.19385613]

>>19385598
Yeah I gotta agree with this anon, I don't think I have ever seen a woman read a non-fiction book.

[Anonymous No.19385621]

>>19385613
And the fiction they do read is Harry Potter or books ripping off Harry Potter

[Anonymous No.19386145]

>boys don't read enough
>girls read a lot (YA shit, stupid books like that kamala and michelle obama one, poll probably includes fashion magazines)
maybe boys just pick out what to read and filter out trash?

[Anonymous No.19386182]

Important question is whether he got the pussy or not. If you got the pussy (as a boy) you don't have to read. Reading is one of the coping mechanism for incels anyway.

[Anonymous No.19386198]

>>19385497
see >>19384480
reading is literally stigmatized.
be dumb or else. you're a workhorse and nothing more.

[Anonymous No.19386206]

>>19385497
>Why aren't boys reading as much as girls?
Toxic masculinity. If men weren't socialized to repress their feelings as much then they would read more.

[Anonymous No.19386209]

>>19385497
>Why aren't boys reading as much as girls?
People born with penises who do read *become* grils.

[Anonymous No.19386235]

I try to be a decent person after I went through a horrible period of radicalisation and had my loneliness exploited online but reading things like this just makes me feel so angry
I hate how people only care about improving the life of girls and women and boys and men are left to slide backwards like this and absolutely nothing is done about it
Personally I read a lot as a kid despite getting bullied about it at school and I was inspired by female teachers I had to be the kind of person that I am in terms of my interest in literature and history but it angers me so much how when these issues are discussed, they're discussed in such a weird and condescending way towards boys compared to how these issues with women are talked about
I also hate how there's such a strong push to get women into STEM in a way that seems to me to ultimate boil down to 'women should do STEM because STEM makes you a lot of money' rather than encouraging girls who already have a passion for science to pursue their dreams

[Anonymous No.19386252]

>>19386235
Sorry for the incel rant actually
>>19386209
Kek idk about being a girl but I did start transitioning years ago

[Anonymous No.19386271]

>>19386252
Eternal becoming, post-girl genders, blah blah blah, my fist in your anus, bloody. etc. shitty disguised /pol/ thread, nobody actually reads Engels on historical gender formation under expanded reproduction.

[Anonymous No.19386304]

>>19385497
Intelligence and reading are especially at a young age often judged to be feminine traits.

[Anonymous No.19386314]

>>19385497
Besides profs in university, I have never net a woman who reads as deeply or as widely as I do. The only people I've met with whom I've been able to have genuinely interesting conversations have all been men.
Sure women read, but they all read crap. Reading chic lit and YA is literally no better than reading nothing.
Women enjoy more academic success because academic success vets for rule following, conscientiousness, and anxiety. Not because they read Divergent or w/e.

[Anonymous No.19386330]

Books for girls: YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE

Books for boys: You are a disappointment and will never be enough.

[Anonymous No.19386337]

>>19385497
>found that boys dedicate less time than girls to processing words
This sounds like a positive.
>that they’re more prone to skipping passages or entire sections
Learning what to disregard is a useful skill. It's the only reason I can browse here.

[Anonymous No.19386953]

I watch modern cartoons with my nephews sometimes and I hate them beyond belief. The girls are all hyper-competent, rational, level-headed and resourceful while the boys are always meek, dull and submissive. Even boys' cartoons are female dominated. The feeling they give is that girls are just plain better than boys.

[Anonymous No.19386956]

>>19385497
Modern books are feminized

[Anonymous No.19386969]

>>19385613
From my experience they also read a fuckton of diaries, autobiographies and such

[Anonymous No.19386971]

>>19385497
What’s the incentive to boys to read more?

[Anonymous No.19386984]

>>19385497
I guess the explanation of this phenomenon would be sports, video games and hobbies, in which girls participate far less than boys.

I suspect the difference gets much smaller after puberty, after which both sexes concentrate mostly on activities leading to sex.

[Anonymous No.19386993]

>>19385497
>its a big reason they have better educational outcomes
and totally not girls getting preferential treatment or being gifted places at unis over men

[Anonymous No.19387006]

>>19385497
They're retarded and have undiagnosed mental illnesses caused from testosterone. Males must be tamed and feminized before they can be of use, let alone produce literature.

[Anonymous No.19387013]

>>19386206
Literature has always been a feminine domain.

[Anonymous No.19387021]

>>19387006
How come men are the top of literally every field ever then? Or are you characterising mental illness as 'lack of YA novels read'.

[Anonymous No.19387043]

>>19387021
Not at the top of the YA field

Checkermate, moid

[Anonymous No.19387046]

>>19387013
Sure, that’s why we’ve had like 5 notable female writers since the dawn of literature until 2000, and nothing but juvenile trash since then.

[Anonymous No.19387053]

>>19387021
Median woman is smarter than a median man, while smartest men are smarter than the smartest women. These are not conflicting.

[Anonymous No.19387055]

>>19387046
it's true it's feminine though

[Anonymous No.19387058]

>>19385497
>big reason they have better educational outcomes
>NOOOOOOO WHY BOYS DOMINATE STEM

[Anonymous No.19387061]

>>19387053
But dumb men at least have physical utility. Dumb or average women (the vast majority) have nothing to contribute to any field. At least dumb or average men build.

[Anonymous No.19387063]

>>19387055
In that sense you might be right, after all the western canon is full of fags and simps.

[Anonymous No.19387065]

>>19387061
>Dumb or average women (the vast majority) have nothing to contribute to any field.
They have physical utility as well - to produce more man and women

[Anonymous No.19387066]

>>19387061
they also post on 4chan

[Anonymous No.19387075]

>>19386182
I sometimes read the Bhagavad Gita while ravaging my wife's pussy, I take the role of creator (by giving her all my seed), mantainer (by giving her and our children resources), and destructor (of her beauty innocence, by subduing her everytime we do it and making her absolutely mine), it feels great.

[Anonymous No.19387083]

>>19387065
So in one '''field''' they're superior. Wowzers. That is the gender we want young men replicating the learning habits of!

[Anonymous No.19387084]

>>19385529
If women read more and boys are made effeminate, wouldn't that increase their willingness to read, since it is considered a womanly trait? You must be retarded.

[Anonymous No.19387101]

>>19387021
>How come men are top of literally every field.

There are women grandmasters of international chess, Chinese Go, and other mind-game sports. Many non physically taxing sports such as tennis & bowling have also garnered female champions that men couldn't come close to their records. Even in Japan some of the best manga titles are written by women. Overtime women will take over the arts and literature completely, as Kurt Kobain predicted.

You're also a male and 90% of the women you've met have achieved more than you ever could.

[Anonymous No.19387109]

Dundee
Home of the Lemmings

[Anonymous No.19387116]

>>19387101
>as Kurt Kobain predicted.
Bad bait. But your post did make me wonder if the problem is not in our definition of achievement.

[Anonymous No.19387117]

>>19387101
Men dominate in all those sports. Whenever it comes down to 'who is the best' its always between either chad men or autistic men.

There are more women smart enough to go to college, but all that does is water it down. They won't 'overtake' anything by being the best, but by only the smart men bothering with futher study (generally). Goes by to what I was saying; at least stupid men build. Everything you see around you was put there by dumb men being directed by smart men.

[Anonymous No.19387128]

>>19387101
>There are women grandmasters of international chess, Chinese Go, and other mind-game sports
Yes, but not at the very top. Always men there.
>Many non physically taxing sports such as TENNIS...
and here one may stop reading, you obviously lack the comprehension of reality necessary to form an opinion that needs to be taken seriously. Tennis is an extremely taxing sport and women don't even come close to the athletic feats of men there. Women play 3 sets, men 5, just for a start. Female number one in the world wouldn't crack top 200 men.

In the arts obviously its impossible to really say there is a top tier, still the bombastic majority of major works is being and has been produced by men, especially on the cutting edge.

To preempt you repeating your vapid final point - I work in the arts around many women neither of whom achieved more than me most of whom achieved less and some's livelihoods are even contingent on my success. They are not frigid sjw 4chan whores from the US though, so they lack the hatred of men engendered in those specimens by their failing culture.

[Anonymous No.19387138]

>>19387117

[Anonymous No.19387148]

>>19387138
Thank you for bringing /lit/ back into /lit/

Men think they're winning, but women are not even playing the same game.

[Anonymous No.19387156]

>>19385497
1. Boys got computer.
2. Boys switched from books to computers (videogames).
3. Book marketers noticed the shift and started targeting girls more.
4. Less and less boys read because of that.
5. GOTO 3

[Anonymous No.19387160]

>>19385497
Women read absolute shit, though. I'm not even talking genre literally people look down on or anything, I'm talking interchangeable romance shlock. They'd be better off not reading anything.

[Anonymous No.19387163]

>>19385529
Correct

[Anonymous No.19387169]

>>19387156
Pretty much

[Anonymous No.19387175]

>men don't read anything
>BUT WOMEN DON'T READ PHILOSOPHY!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.19387223]

>>19387160
based

[Anonymous No.19387236]

>>19387160
My mum once suggested that I should read an erotic romance novel since they were cheap and I would have more to read for paying less.

[Anonymous No.19387249]

>>19387236
Based. Reading is a nice pastime appropriated by pseudo-intellectuals to inflate their egos.

[Anonymous No.19387262]

>>19385497
>more prone to skipping passages or entire sections
If they were reading textbooks then I don't blame them.

[Anonymous No.19387281]

>>19386337
It's why women become so neurotic online, they internalize every shitpost and exhaust their cognitive abilities quickly. It's why they need a gated walled internet with the edges sanded off.

[Anonymous No.19387298]

>>19387156
This. Also many games two decades ago involved a lot of reading. Nothing profound, but rpgs like ff7 literally taught young boys how to read. Nowadays everything is "cinematic" and the player just watches passively instead of reading. I've met multiple dudes in the 25-30 age range who claim video games taught them how to read. Granted, these weren't the smartest guys in the room, but at least even these types were reading something back then.

[Anonymous No.19387340]

>>19387281
you're describing blokes on this board

[Anonymous No.19387350]

>>19385497
Girls read fantasy, YA novels, and erotica. That's the same as not reading.

[Anonymous No.19387395]

>>19387340
Hello queen. Hope you're doing fantastic.

[Anonymous No.19387452]

>>19387395
mashallah sister

[Anonymous No.19387711]

>>19385497
Maybe if 99% of the teachers weren’t women they would be able to relate to and guide boys a bit better. Telling that the headline here implicitly blames the boys for not reading enough, whereas if it was a negative result about girls the narrative would be that they are being failed by the sexist education system, etc.

[Anonymous No.19387737]

women literally only care about romance and true crime

[Anonymous No.19387742]

>>19387156
This makes a lot of sense.

Could also add that even the favourite medium for porn for women is literature like 50 shades if gray. A lot of female readers only read schlock like that, which is basically porno in literary form.

[Anonymous No.19387752]

>>19387742
Literary porn at least doesn’t cause physical damage to the brain like regular porn. Girls win again.

[Anonymous No.19387756]

>>19387752
Source? Not suggesting you're lying, just interested in reading more on the topic

[Anonymous No.19387766]

>>19385529
/thread

>>19387084
kys

[Anonymous No.19387775]

>>19387084

testosterone is vital for cognition in men.I seriously think that decresing levels of testosterone could be a cause of the male education crisis.

[Anonymous No.19387787]

my future son will read gothic violence by mike ma

[Anonymous No.19387789]

>>19386337
That's literally how Hitler says to read in Mein Kampf. He said most people don't truly know how to read. Zeroing in on what was useful to him and discarding the rest enabled him to be vastly knowledgeable about the things he was interested in.

Heil Hitler /

[Anonymous No.19387796]

>>19387298
The Final Fantasy series sparked some ofbmy interest in literature, purely from autistic childish word association.
>Norse Mythology from summons
>Russian literature from the name's of Godo's lieutenants in FF7

Also, Nobuo Uematsu paying homage to Bach and the Carmina Burana exposed me to classical music. And Gargoyles was another good early exposure to Shakespearean characters and Arthurian Legend (although that cartoon with the football team was first). Honestly, the writing in FF6 through 9 was better than most modern games and the kind of archetypal characters/narrative elements they used were good groundwork. Secret of Mana was like playing a storybook and Suikoden was even better written.

[Anonymous No.19387800]

>>19387101
>nawalt
Shut the fuck up, retard.

[Anonymous No.19387806]

>>19387156
>it developed naturally
Wrong, civilization is controlled consciously by bored billionaires.

[Anonymous No.19387814]

>>19387775
do you reckon that's why so many (ostensibly) low t men swerve to the alt right

[Anonymous No.19387834]

>>19387814
some do,but most of them who do end up in the alt right and/or libertarian circles are high test ,individualistic men.

[Anonymous No.19387864]

>>19387834
don't know about that fella

[Anonymous No.19387869]

>>19387814
>>19387834
All groups of men, on left and right alike, consist of few high t leaders and many low t followers.

That's how it always was and how it always will be.

[Anonymous No.19387871]

>>19387864
Now's the time to learn, guy.

[Anonymous No.19387894]

>>19385497
boys don't read as much early on, but most of them pick up the habit of reading once they leave their teens
girls read YAs

[Anonymous No.19387943]

>>19387869
but y the sudden rise of wokeism and cancel culture?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CgFLFSmxe06I8BV822vKHM766gulLSdm/view

[Anonymous No.19387953]

>>19387869
surely not

[Anonymous No.19387957]

>>19387871
yeah?

[Anonymous No.19387959]

>>19387943
Why the sudden rise of /pol/, alt right and Trump? Both are just our natural tribalism which we devolved into once we understood that our civilization doesn't give us even a chance to succeed anymore.

[Anonymous No.19387974]

>>19385497
Boys want to read about history, battles, soldiers, Alexander, Caesar ,Hannibal and Napoleon.
Instead school shoves gender-queer xirs talking about dilating and getting their hole eaten by their wife's girlfriend.

>Why dont boys like reading
These people know the problem. There is no way they are that stupid and/or oblivious.

[Anonymous No.19387995]

>>19387959
>Why the sudden rise of /pol/, alt right and Trump?
yeah,i get that it could just be tribalism;but hey one has a huge amount of collectivist followers that won't handle a confrontation head on and will immediately try to silence its opposition whereas the other group has a considerable if not overwhelming amount of individualists.I also agree with this>>19387869 to an extent,but the alt rite or even just the center right conservatives are more than likely to accept responsibility of their actions(yes,the same alt rite that accuses juice,nogs n trannies)

[Anonymous No.19388070]

Does it really matter? Every time I see articles like this asking questions like "How can we get kids/boys to read more?" I think "What is it you're trying to get them to read?" I'm so tired of this idea that reading without qualification is a good thing. Most young girls read YA filth which does nothing to enrich their lives or further their intellectual and spiritual development. Instead of simply asking how we get children to read more (which is an uphill battle in this age of technology and something that should rest on the shoulders of the parents rather than on the state or solely on the educational system) we should be providing our children with more substantial literature. As it stands, the books kids read today are as mind numbing as any other form of cheap entertainment. I'm beginning to ramble, but what I'm trying to say is that the problem here is much greater than simply figuring out how to get boys to read more.

[Anonymous No.19388094]

>>19387974
based! this ones going in my /pol/ compilation xD

[Anonymous No.19388181]

reading is kept under a matriarchal power structure

[Anonymous No.19388469]

>>19387298
>>19387796
How was Final Fantasy so good bros, I wouldn't like it now but to be exposed to it as a child was the greatest blessing. I taught myself English to play my copy of Final Fantasy 7 and thanks to that I would become philoamerican later in my youth. Indirectly, I have to thank Final Fantasy if am posting on this Sudanese pro skateboarding chatroom. It got me into rock music, it got me into anime, it got me into Dungeons and Dragons, it got me into the occult, Yuffie got me into flat chested tomboys and Red XIII being so cool probably paved the way to turning me into a furry.
I spent so many days grinding levels so I could kill the Emerald Weapon while other kids were doing sports. I never made friends IRL but Final Fantasy was there with me. Thank you Squaresoft for improving my life.

[Anonymous No.19388522]

>>19388181

[Anonymous No.19388637]

>>19387006
Me on the left.

[Anonymous No.19388660]

>>19388522
this shit slaps frfr tho

[Anonymous No.19389063]

>>19388469
>I have to thank Final Fantasy if am posting on this Sudanese pro skateboarding chatroom. It got me into rock music, it got me into anime, it got me into Dungeons and Dragons, it got me into the occult, Yuffie got me into flat chested tomboys and Red XIII being so cool probably paved the way to turning me into a furry.
lmao

[Anonymous No.19389308]

>>19385529
Cope for being a loser in high school

[Anonymous No.19389643]

>>19389308
lol the retard is seething

[Anonymous No.19389651]

>>19385497
>>19385529
Reading is the preferred medium of pornography for women.

[Anonymous No.19389657]

>>19385497
Reading is an inherently feminine activity

[Anonymous No.19389666]

The real answer is because most males are addicted to video games
They'd think you are a wacko for reading a book

[Anonymous No.19389762]

>>19385497
>YA is made exclusively for young women.
>All English teachers and librarians are woke trans-dyke hippo queers.
Lament why boys don't like to read.

[Anonymous No.19389848]

>>19389666
Is there really any difference between reading the text in video games and reading romance novels?

[Anonymous No.19389849]

>>19388469
All those are bad though

[Anonymous No.19389860]

>>19389849
/lit/ truly is the smartest board

[Anonymous No.19389893]

>>19389643
I'm not mad tho, it's just true in my experience with all these feminine society keeps men down types. Note I'm not saying anything about feminine society

Most kids I knew in HS that didn't read jackshit were out doing parkour, training on parks, playing sports, and/or nolifing videogames. Only the latter looks like they're quieting themselves, and they were still pretty outgoing and good guys

[Anonymous No.19389939]

>>19385497
>only push and publish books that specifically pander to women
>shit out 80000 titles that has "girl" "wife" "woman" "women" "daughter" etc in the title
>endless wine aunt books
>endless books about witches, bodice rippers, feminism, grrrl power, "kick ass girls", YA fantasy love triangles, chick lit, etc
>woke PC culture infesting everything
>???
>omg why aren't boys reading?!?!?!?!

[Anonymous No.19389941]

>>19387298
Video games didn't teach me how to read as a kid, but a lot of RPGs unironically expanded my lexicon and comprehension. Especially games like Morrowind.

[Anonymous No.19390003]

>>19386953
give me some examples. this would be interesting to study

[Anonymous No.19390020]

>>19386235
You're not a bad person if you haven't hurt anyone, anon. I love you.

[Anonymous No.19390024]

Is it any surprise when these are the books kids have to read now?

[Anonymous No.19390033]

>>19385529
>They're discouraged from reading anything that would forge them into a virtuous man by having it labeled as problematic
Then why does Jordan Peterson top the charts with every book he writes?

[Anonymous No.19390049]

>>19387084
Nice demonstration of mental gymnastics in service of an ideological predisposition.

[Anonymous No.19390050]

Well, good thing I've spent 2 hours a day reading 4chan.com, I guess

[Anonymous No.19390056]

>>19386235
>i-i got radicalized I'm so sorry
ngmi søy cuck famalam

[Anonymous No.19390059]

>>19385497
Because girls like reading romance novels like all females. I wasn't much into reading as a child, got into it in my 20s when I could appreciate literature more.

[Anonymous No.19390073]

>>19390056
I mean if you read my later post I'm literally a tranny so I've transcended soi
>>19390020
Thanks anon, I always kept this stuff to myself so it's basically my secret but idk, sometimes I feel guilty about it and I probably have latent misogyny

[Anonymous No.19390077]

>>19390033
Why is Jordan Peterson held off of the NYT bestseller list? Also, he isn't writing YA and children's lit retard. (inb4 It is for children! We already know pseuds and leftards can't tell the difference between media constructed for broad appeal and academic work).

[Anonymous No.19390100]

>>19390033
Because men read so few books, they're thirsty for books for themselves.

Too bad they get stuck with that asshole.

[Anonymous No.19390127]

>>19390100
Chuck Palaniuk said he wrote Fight Club because there is new archetypically female fiction produced every season and the only recent masculine-themed fiction he could think of was The Dead Poet's Society. I'm not a big fan of his writing but I think that was a fair take.

[Anonymous No.19390135]

In (eastern) Europe it seems quite a few educated women are well read even by lit's standards. While your average but vocal woman obviously reads trash, and trash is parroted and praised by other sluts in power and onions males, the most classically well-read people I know are actually women. I know at least 5 women who have a great taste and interest in books, one of them being my mom who actually got me into reading. She hates the current agenda too and reads almost exclusively male authors, but that is beyond the point. She noticed too, that young girls read a lot more but that they read trash, so people in this thread are right on this one. But what I feel needs to be added is that pretty regular guys like me and my friends strive to be broadly well read, as a part of our general education. We do other stuff for living and hobbies. But rare women might actually get deeper into literature than even smartest men, because they dont really use it as a tool but as an end itself. An example for this is maybe the woman who wrote about dostoyevski, Lyudmila i forgot her last name, maybe Sarenina? It seems you've been focusing too much on mainstream YA Womyn pushes which are fueled by midlife crisis hags who listen to Taylor Swift and they obviously shape what the average woman reads, of course the new generation of teachers will fuck our kids up with "new classics" which are mediocre at best while actually good shit gets tossed in the bin for being "too edgy". But I'm convinced a lot of women will read exactly that and even oppose this trend, maybe more than us, who don't waste all our time on books.

[Anonymous No.19390140]

>>19390100
Also, Peterson isn't an asshole. It's easy to shit on him for leaning into a (completely unexpected) career as a public media figure but you shouldn't forget he was a successful research scientist, university professor, and clinical psychologist who worked one-on-one with deeply troubled and mentally ill people for decades.

[Anonymous No.19390193]

>>19385497
i definitely know more girls who read than boys, but the girls i know who read are reading YA trash or shit like "the subtle art of not giving a f*ck"

[Anonymous No.19390258]

>>19390073
>I mean if you read my later post I'm literally a tranny
I had compassion for you until I read this.
YWNBAWKYSF

[Anonymous No.19390268]

>>19385529
>They are taught to quieten themselves, hide their nature, and allow patterns of effeminacy to take a hold of their lives
worked for post-war japan

[Anonymous No.19390277]

>>19390258
Lmao
You still made me happy with that post anon :)

[Anonymous No.19390285]

Not enough literature in highschool. The only books I enjoyed in HS were the metamorphosis, the giver and le dernier jour d'un condamné.

[Anonymous No.19390290]

>>19390140
The problem with JP is that he's utterly refuted by the existence of his daughter.

[Anonymous No.19390296]

>>19385497
Women read erotica though, not sure that really counts.

Boys would read more if they were given Jack London, Jules Verne, etc, instead of the shit they make them read at school nowadays.

[Anonymous No.19390299]

>>19387789
so not reading is now reading?
shut the fuck up hunbot

[Anonymous No.19390306]

>>19387814
Obviously

[Anonymous No.19390310]

>>19386252
>Kek idk about being a girl
Are you admitting that you will indeed nbaw?
Why did you transition then if you're not delusional enough to think you'll become a girl?

[Anonymous No.19390311]

>>19388469

[Anonymous No.19390316]

I started reading as a kid because my mum would read to me before bed time and we'd go to the library together and I'd borrow picture books and then when I got to an old enough age I'd start choosing books to read myself
Does this just not happen anymore?
>>19390310
Well I'm kind of fake trans, not genuinely transgender nor do I pass all that well
Also I started transitioning because I thought it'd make me feel better and it did

[Anonymous No.19390321]

>>19390290
That's a retarded take. Ever meet any of the 1000s of patients he dealt with over the years or the grad students he mentored into research careers? How about just reading any of his research papers?
>No! He wrote 2 mass-market books and I think his daughter is a retard! Refuted!

[Anonymous No.19390376]

>>19390290
how

[Anonymous No.19390425]

>>19388469
Based FF7 autist

[Anonymous No.19390434]

>>19385529
And yet every major media outlet has called for increased reading among boys

[Anonymous No.19390436]

These studies are essentially redundant. We already knew that women are over-represented in universities, and we knew women make up most of the publishing market. So what?
There isn't really a subcategory of women disinclined from reading. A woman gets a desk job or is a housewife. These females read empty trash.
Among men, on the other hand, there are a significant number of blue-collar fellers, and they naturally don't read much, but why should they? Not everybody gets much out of reading.
>reason why (women) have better educational outcomes
I would assume the reverse: Women read more and "have better educational outcomes" because their personalities simply incline them towards these behaviours. It's not like they can do the sort of manual work men can, they have no choice but to run on the office hamster wheel, producing nothing of value to society. Men do better in trades, and those jobs actually count for something.
Humanities departments in universities have assumed the function of daycare for vapid females; the academic climate generally is tooled towards tedious liberal attitudes. Men go where the potential for gain is.
>>19386235
Sodomite, surely you must know that nobody wants you here or cares about your blogpost. Why do you bother?
>>19386206
bait
>>19387006
I would not be surprised if you were a biological female.
>>19387787
Your future son will be a tranny if you give him alt-lite meme books by nobodies.
Anyways bottom line is boyz rule girlz drool. If ever you doubt this consult your wife: if she tells you otherwise give her a shiner and then ask her again. Getting into internet arguments is for trannies.

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>>19390024
They can always read old kids books

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>>19390140
He's fine in his wheelhouse, but he has the worst takes on literally anything else. The dude is actually an asshole. He's good at a very narrow scope, and he's not wrong that boys get done dirty right now, but he seems like a huge cunt as a person.

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>>19390268
It didn't though.Post-war japan's success is the fault of America pumping tons of money and using them for cheap labor.

[Anonymous No.19390795]

I'm a guy and I largely read sci-fi, fantasy, romance, YA-ish sort of stuff.

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>>19390024
funny that apparently blacks can't write their own books or make their own publishing houses and have to rely on the white-created literary establishment to produce books with pictures of darkies on it.
sometimes i think the average wine aunt is more racist than anyone on 4chan ever could be.

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>>19390795
so you don't read at all

[Anonymous No.19391818]

>>19387894
No. Most people don’t read at all

[Anonymous No.19391839]

>>19385497
>teacher assigns "essays from an african disabled tranny"
>fuck this I'm reading Ovid
>HE DIDN'T DO HIS READING HE'S ILLITERATE
shieeeet

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>>19387711
Maybe men are just to stupid to teach. They can only give lectures while keeping a distance from their students. Which makes them shitty teachers.

[Anonymous No.19392027]

>>19387775
Studies claim testosterone is the leading cause of lack of intellectual ability. It's why men who have more testosterone or look more masculine end up in low occupational status jobs.

https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/70/3/813/2232541?redirectedFrom=PDF

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>>19392027
very high T is bad,yes,but so is very low T.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11913330/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9845018/#:~:text=The%20relationship%20between%20serum%20total,at%20very%20high%20T%20levels.
however women do seem to have better verbal ability than men even after correcting for hormonal problems.

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>>19392175
>however women do seem to have better verbal ability than men even after correcting for hormonal problems.
This is probably inherent. The problem is that women by and large have mediocre creative visions, so their dominance means that culture as a whole suffers.

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>>19385497
Bring back CYOAs, boys loved that shit.

[Anonymous No.19392854]

>>19392845
I know I did
But you know, there's another, highly popular medium that prizes interactivity

[Anonymous No.19392880]

>>19392854
But it's not books.

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>>19392854
Furry ERP?!

[Anonymous No.19392979]

Not to get political, but boys are so... discouraged and seemingly downright hated in academic spaces and schools. Like, the entire school system from the ground up is built and designed for girls. Boys need activity and movement and adventure and to use their hands and to be ALLOWED to be boys.

When it comes to books, books are absolutely not made for boys anymore. I was walking past the book section in Target the other day, and all the Young Adult books AND kids books were geared towards children in general, or girls (specifically, like, large-haired black girls for some reason?). No adventure stories. No stories of heroes or chivalry. It made me so sad. Makes me actually, really want to write stories for boys and young men because literally nobody is.

>>19385529
hit the nail on the head. It's sad.

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>>19385529
very accurate post

[Anonymous No.19392987]

>>19386206
This bait exposes a vicious cycle.

>Toxic Masculinity keeps boys from reading
So let's write books for boys
>Adventure, chivalry, and strength is Toxic Masculinity
Okay, so I guess we won't write anything
>Toxic Masculinity keeps boys from reading
etc

[Anonymous No.19393020]

>>19392987
This isn't a vicious cycle, it's a plan to have boys turned into feminized, unassertive eunuchs, which is what the typyical soileftists are. Boys don't read but that's not a problem, I think the companies are thinking of all the "old" audience as an audience to convert, running parallel to the actual audience which is women and gays. Straight white people are not being rejected, they've been reverted to a "growing" audience that will slowly inch into the new narrative.

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>>19393020
It can be both a plan and a vicious cycle.
I, in no way, meant to imply this wasn't deliberate. It certainly is.

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>>19393031
What I meant is that this isn't a locked circular path, there's a door open at all times which is the one where you become woke and learn to apologize for being a straight white guy.

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>>19392845
I remember reading this in elementary and thinking it was so cool. I'd always go for the endings where I got my vampire waifu

[Anonymous No.19394400]

society fears the well read male

[Anonymous No.19394424]

>>19386969
Memoirs are not autobiographies. Men read biographies, women read memoirs (a bunch of made-up stories meant to convey how special and unique the author is).

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>>19385497
reading is gay, and always will be

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>>19385613
why would I read a nonfiction book when I can read a fiction book one is fun the other is not fun I just want to have fun let me have fun okay you can't visualize a nonfiction book its just knowledge when I read star wars: obi wans fat cock I can see that in my mind I can't see whatever the fuck marcus aurelius is rambling about please just let me enjoy myself for the love of god

[Anonymous No.19394484]

>>19394459
Why can't you enjoy trying to learn about reality?

And no one is stopping you from enjoying what you want, we're just calling you a retarded faggot.

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>>19394484
i guess that's reasonable

[Anonymous No.19394535]

>>19387298
I am a bit younger, 20. But you're right. Video games taught me how to read. Pokémon emerald taught me how to read, before I even went kindergarten, all these Gba and DS rpgs did more for my young childhood development in reading then actual school. When I was young, I was able to be immersed a lot easier in a game, because of the interactivity then a book. Now a days, that isn't the case since all games are voice acted, but the vast majority of my friends, share the same settlement.

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>>19390434
Meaning what? There's a difference between catering to boys and advocating for boys to be forcefed more shit they don't like.

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>>19385529
spbp

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>>19394535
Pleasure is essential to learning. Most traditional education is devoid of this. However all pleasurable things have been contaminated with "education" to create slaves.

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>>19385497
Has nothing to do with dads paying for further education for their daughters and telling their sons to fuck off and make their own way. I'm sure.

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>>19392027
seems almost impossible to establish temporal precedence and a causal relationship with this; not only is your job affected by your testosterone but the inverse is true, testosterone levels are probably much more reliant on exercise and exposure to sunlight than genetics.

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>>19385497
Books are made by and for women and men nowadays. And since boys are not yet men and women are basically children the only young people who read books are girls.

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>>19392195
Actually no this is wrong. Women have better processing speed, but this is mediated by the superior verbal reasoning of males.
The most academically successful groups in education, at least in the United States, are gay men, followed by heterosexual women, them het men, with bisexual and lesbian women performing the worst in school and college.

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>>19390436
>Men do better in trades, and those jobs actually count for something.

I guess the problem is: if you're somewhat artistic or like reading and writing and want to make it in publishing; or if you're political and passionate and want a government job, or in the third sector; if you have an education and a high verbal iq and don't particularly like breathing particulates all day while enduring shitty banter (and I've been there), then you're somewhat screwed when everything has been taken over by this nonsense. The academic climate was profoundly different just a few short decades ago. I don't want to work in a daycare for vapid females; I want to write non-fiction while lecturing, or complete my own projects while clerking in some non-descript office (as did Thomas Bulfinch when he wrote his Mythology), and because that kind of life was plausible and probable so recently, it stings to exist at a time where it isn't.

I understand stoicism is in order, and we have to buckle up and knuckle down and deal with the world as it is, not as we want it to be. But I think a lot of people on this board are in a similar situation, and they're to trying to process these frustrations -- and part of that is airing them.

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>>19385497
Because they're out there being kids? Playing around on bikes and swimming and doing all the things girls are scared of without adults around? Reading books as a child is super lame and nerdy

[Anonymous No.19395562]

I'm almost 30 and I seemed to have missed a lot of the "woke" agenda in schools with the exception of feminism. The books or the discussion of books in my high school curriculum certainly discouraged males from having strong interest in books.

I remember being made to read books like Night, Anne Frank's Diary (I swear I'm not just being antisemitic here) and many others which had a strong focus on victimization. Something about these kind of books and teacher prompted discussions made the boys very uncomfortable, and I suspect books in which people take action and triumph over something would be more likely to catch their interest.

We read other books, Romeo and Juliet, Frankenstein, Macbeth, Huckbleberry Finn, Tom Sawyer and such, although they never made us read a whole Shakespeare play. The teacher prompted discussion was often about how people are victimized or the troubles of women or blacks.

I'm not 100% certain this is the problem, and I'm no smarty pants but the English teachers had a gaggle of girls and gays around them at all times and not one straight male ever spoke up in class about books like the girls/gays did or approached the english teachers after class.

On the other hand, we had a male english teacher who made us read the Vietnam novel The Things They Carried and brought in some old military kit he weighted down, letting students feel the 60 or so pound weight of it and the class was all male students chattering excitedly about the book through all the lessons.

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>>19395562
I'm about your age and it's spooky how much this relates to my experience. Halfway through reading your post my mind jumped to the only book in my high school syllabus I remember enjoying. I got perfect marks on every assessment related to it. This changed how my English teacher dealt with me in class. I went from a problem student who spent one day of the week standing in the hall to a 'talented' student who just needed some extra attention in order to apply himself. Do you want to take a guess at what that book was?

The Things We Carried by Tim O'Brien.

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>>19396343
It's a fantastic book with a great framing device. To this day I'm still surprised that even the boys who were most disinterested in books and academics were eager to talk about it and raise their hands in class. I don't know if it was part of an official curriculum or just something some teachers assign but it was easily the most memorable school reading of my time in high school, I still have a paperback copy I bought after turning in my class copy.

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>>19385497
Boys are learning decision-making and tactics from video games rather than just passively processing YA garbage like girls.

/v/ fags will tell you this developmental preference justifies their wasted lives though, and that's not true.

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>>19395562
>>19396343
I wasn't into reading in highschool, but during my sophomore American Lit class we were only assigned a few chapters of The Things We Carried but I read the whole thing. Great book.

I also enjoyed A Farewell To Arms, The Grapes of Wrath and The Catcher in the Rye from that year.

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>>19396473
>I also enjoyed A Farewell To Arms, The Grapes of Wrath and The Catcher in the Rye from that year.
Out of those three the only one I was made to read in school was Catcher and I hated it. I thought it was far too mopey, even though Things They Carried was also introspective and depressing. I can't explain why because I've never gone back to Catcher but maybe I should give it a read as an adult

[Anonymous No.19396591]

Lets start a bros bookstore where we all jerk each other off

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>>19396591
Think of the money you could make on the JO crystals you power with it

[Anonymous No.19396744]

>>19385529
bASED

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>>19385529
Real shit. In school everything I was assigned to read was either a classic (good) or chick lit (shit).

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>>19386235
> I also hate how there's such a strong push to get women into STEM in a way that seems to me to ultimate boil down to 'women should do STEM because STEM makes you a lot of money' rather than encouraging girls who already have a passion for science to pursue their dreams
I want to support women, real women, not brainless f*moids. Only then can we support men in reading.

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>>19390268
If by 'worked' you mean 'created an economic bubble and a suicide crisis'

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>>19387055
What is the gender of the writer of that paper, anon?

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>>19387013
Dilate

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>>19385497
I only read non-fiction.

[Anonymous No.19396942]

>>19396930
Non fiction is a huge waste of time

[Anonymous No.19396944]

>>19385497
when all of the mayor inventors, engineers, scientists, entrepreneurs, artists, writers, philosophers, and entertainers are men I don't know how you could say women have better educational outcomes.