>Wallace hooked up with everyone from friends’ girlfriends to countless young fans. He once asked his friend Jonathan Franzen if his only purpose on Earth is “to put my penis in as many vaginas as possible.” Droppeddddddd.... I don't see how I can relate to anything this guy wrote, so much for that

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Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:29:12 2021 No.19378846 [Reply] [Original]

>Wallace hooked up with everyone from friends’ girlfriends to countless young fans. He once asked his friend Jonathan Franzen if his only purpose on Earth is “to put my penis in as many vaginas as possible.”
Droppeddddddd.... I don't see how I can relate to anything this guy wrote, so much for that

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:35:15 2021 No.19378881 >>19378846 Post tits

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:36:30 2021 No.19378885 >>19378846 It still wasn't enough to save him

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:36:33 2021 No.19378886 >>19378846 You a virgin?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:37:28 2021 No.19378890 >>19378846 Damn if thats true than I will drop him too. Although he does win some points back for killing himself, thats based.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:37:29 2021 No.19378891 The guy was a fucking despicable headcase, that's the entire point of everything he ever wrote.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:41:54 2021 No.19378915 He killed hisself precisely because he knew he would have been crucified for his sluttery just a few years later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:43:15 2021 No.19378921 >>19378915 >>19378891 He killed himself because he realized that it is the conclusion to philosophy Anything else is cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:44:34 2021 No.19378929 >>19378921 and thats a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:45:52 2021 No.19378939 >>19378929 Why's that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:46:07 2021 No.19378942 >>19378846 >thinking that was a brag and not an expression of existential terror/dread you clearly haven't read wallace, my fine summer friend

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:47:55 2021 No.19378952 >>19378942 This

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:49:58 2021 No.19378965 hey fellow zoomers, i have an idea: let's go do a tiktok dance on david foster's grave. that'll show the world what we really think of truth and beauty. suss hella dummy thicc esketit ayooo

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:52:38 2021 No.19378977 >>19378965 Cringe

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:52:47 2021 No.19378978 >>19378846 fucking based DFW. maybe i'll actually read all of infinite jest one day... probably not though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:53:06 2021 No.19378979 >>19378939 why not

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:53:53 2021 No.19378985 >>19378977 checked, thanks for the (You)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:56:07 2021 No.19378995 >>19378985 No problem

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:56:43 2021 No.19378998 >>19378846 Based rooter

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:58:34 2021 No.19379004 David had everything a man could want and couldn't bring himself to live. It's horrific to think about. A wife, educated family, success

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 20:59:33 2021 No.19379011 That was when he was very young. He changed a lot after infinite jest

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:00:26 2021 No.19379016 >>19379004 And evidently loads of pussy. Must not have like his wife so much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:02:08 2021 No.19379023 I wouldn't trust anything Franzen or his mileu say. He has also said "David wanted to be remembered like Kurt cobain". Evidently, there's a lot of jealousy lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:05:27 2021 No.19379037 Was he infertile? All that pussy and he never knocked any of it up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:07:44 2021 No.19379047 >>19379037 He was an anti-natalist, like any intelligent person

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:08:25 2021 No.19379051 >>19379047 Proof?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:09:58 2021 No.19379061 >>19379047 He was vasectomised?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:09:58 2021 No.19379062 >>19379051 Read him, anon. He was absolutely a pessimist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:11:52 2021 No.19379073 >>19379062 Really? I thought IJ was primarily about hope in a mad world. And his This is water speech is very hopeful. He was also an admirer of CS Lewis

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:13:12 2021 No.19379079

>>19379004
This is how I know it won't get better. It isn't an impulse or reaction, it's an understanding that you come to. And once you arrive there you can't go back. You can't unrealize the idea. It's a seed planted in concrete. It isn't coming out, and your only future is to watch it grow.
Thankfully my parent's are in their 70s. That's the only difficult aspect.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:17:03 2021 No.19379098 David Poptart Walnuts

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:29:24 2021 No.19379149 >>19378846 >countless young fans So was this guy the JewWario of lit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:31:33 2021 No.19379161 >>19378846 >hooked up with... friends’ girlfriends I don't see how this could make anybody happy unless they were a sociopath. Just guilt and emotional baggage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:36:39 2021 No.19379173 Wasn't he a bit borderline as well?

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:36:42 2021 No.19379175

>>19378846
There is definitely some overlap between depression and narcissism so it doesn't surprise me when someone "with depression" acts like a self-centered asshole. I've done similar things in the past. I'd never fuck a friend's girlfriend, but I'm sure most depressed people can relate to a cycle of self-pity and careless self-indulgence.

I'd go so far as to say depression is caused by someone not getting what they want, and if you put that much importance on what you want that not getting it will deeply effect you then you have a warped ego of sorts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:36:43 2021 No.19379176 >>19379161 >>19379149 see: >>19378942

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:42:09 2021 No.19379197

>>19379175
>I'd go so far as to say depression is caused by someone not getting what they want,
Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in your brain that results from the improper reuptake of serotonin, or some other neurological process.
>I'm sure most depressed people can relate to a cycle of self-pity and careless self-indulgence.
This says so much more about you than it does about anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:43:04 2021 No.19379199 can you live with it op?

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:43:54 2021 No.19379206

>>19378921
It's the conclusion to pecimisim yeah? I don't really lean one way or the other too heavily but too say that rope is the checkmate of all abstract thought seems like you're just forgetting there's another side to the coin. Optimism is a complete valid reaction to consciousness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:47:05 2021 No.19379223 >>19379079 Can you be a little more direct about the understanding you're referring to?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:48:39 2021 No.19379237 >>19379206 I wish I could believe this, I just feel like death BTFO a possible meaning for life

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:50:00 2021 No.19379244 >>19379079 What is the seed?

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:50:11 2021 No.19379245

Pynchon also slept with a friend’s girlfriend while in college. You have to remember most artists are scum on a personal level. Especially musicians, novelists and philosophers. In general, the entire world of “successful people” is filled to the brim with psychopaths, it is true whats been said about it. Poets and painters seem to be some of the few who live more in accordance with their art.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:50:48 2021 No.19379248 >>19378846 >wearing a bandana to hide you are balding is that why he killed himself?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:51:46 2021 No.19379256 >>19379197 This is the most pseud shit ive ever read in my life, never post on this board again you absolute imbecile. Especially not to a sincere and intelligent post like the one you did

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:51:56 2021 No.19379258 >>19378942 it's both and one just reinforces the other

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:52:00 2021 No.19379259 >>19379197 >depression is literally a biological disease kek you have no idea what you're talking about

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:53:22 2021 No.19379266 >>19379244 smen

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 21:54:20 2021 No.19379273 Why are successful and “socially adapted” people such fucking psychos? It demoralizes me so much. Nietzsche is not enough for this feeling

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:00:15 2021 No.19379308 >>19379079 I not sure I understand what you're referring to, anon? What is the terrible truth?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:03:02 2021 No.19379323 >>19379256 >>19379259 I'm sorry materialism triggers you. Co-opting the experience of others to nakedly push your own outlook isn't a great look.

Leavisite !dLbcGkpKrE Wed Nov 10 22:03:20 2021 No.19379325

>Ahab hooked up with every whale from friends’ belugas to countless young sperms. He once asked his friend Starbuck if his only purpose on Earth is “to put my harpoon in as many Cetaceas as possible.”
Droppeddddddd.... I don't see how I can relate to anything this Melville guy wrote, so much for that

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:06:50 2021 No.19379345 >>19378846 Reminds me of when I learned Emil Cioran had a gf for most of his life. I dunno, really casts a faggoty pall over his work when I heard that. It's still great, but there had to have been a heavy larping element.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:07:20 2021 No.19379350 >>19379073 Have you read IJ? >>19379079 What is the understanding? Why be so cryptic?

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:09:16 2021 No.19379359

DFW should've laid off the drugs. It's really no surprise he offed himself after spending most of his adult life on a mix of pharmaceuticals and weed. I can't remember the specifics of his drug use, as it's been a while, but that kind of shit is bound to have lasting effects.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:09:21 2021 No.19379360 >>19379345 You don't understand, anon Having a girlfriend doesn't solve existential terror. I have a great relationship but still believe it to have no meaning whatsoever. It's just a comfortable cope.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:10:37 2021 No.19379364 >>19378890 suicide is badass

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:10:39 2021 No.19379365 >>19379359 It wasn't the drug use, it kept him here longer if anything.

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:13:39 2021 No.19379382

>>19379360
Yeahyeah, but it's different. Been there done that. You can't fully face the void unless you're alone. Girls are too much of a distraction. There is a qualitative difference in the experience.

It doesn't invalidate Cioran's work, but it certainly contextualizes it in an unexpected way.

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:14:15 2021 No.19379387

>>19379308
>>19379223
>>19379350
I'm sorry for dressing it up like childish bullshit.
Wallace was clinically depressed his entire life, and was not functional without medication. No matter what he tried it never went away. The understanding is that it simply won't. It is an inherent fact about you. That understanding is the seed as well.
I'm mapping his experience onto my own of course, but I can't help but identify. He was clearly more than whatever ideas he managed to express in writing. Those were tailored for us, not him.
Again, sorry for dressing up something simple and cucked as something profound. I'm probably doing it even more right now. It sucks being an inherent disappointment.

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:15:53 2021 No.19379398

"Countless young fans." This shit annoys me. First of all, how many young female fans did DFW really have? Countless? C'mon now. I understand hyperbole but don't make him sound like Wilt Chamblerlain.

Second, they aren't calling him a paedo, so presumably these are adult women he's sleeping with. So what's your problem? I hate this infantilization of young people. If you're in college you should be treated like you can have sex with someone under your own guidance.

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:16:56 2021 No.19379405

>>19379323
Wtf are you talking about? I'm not trying to push anything you mong, you're the one bringing in ideology and assigning nefarious intentions and whatnot.

If depression is caused by genes and nothing else then how come CBT, aka changing your thoughts and behaviors, sometimes "cures" it? How come drinking booze or taking drugs can temporarily make your depression go away? Does the booze fix your chemical imbalance? How come studies show that pumping a depressed person full of serotonin does not fix their depression, and how come meta analyses show that SSRIs are only about as effective as placebo?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:17:41 2021 No.19379413 >>19379387 It's alright, anon. This is a hard to internalize truth. I deal with clinical depression as well and I'm just running from it and trying to stay afloat for as long as I can. It will catch me one day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:19:37 2021 No.19379421 >>19379405 You know what, you're right. I spoke out of turn. See >>19379387 for my apology.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:24:38 2021 No.19379446 >>19379398 way to miss the point

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:52:46 2021 No.19379589 File: 38 KB, 780x438, pepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hedonists legitimately trigger me

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:54:01 2021 No.19379594 >>19379589 Hedonism is the closest thing we have to meaning, it is what makes life bearable

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:55:03 2021 No.19379599 >>19378942 >expression of existential terror/dread that is a brag for /lit/ types, you know that

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 22:55:18 2021 No.19379601 >>19379594 Must be why life is so meaningless

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:03:14 2021 No.19379650 >>19379175 Fucking your friend’s girlfriend is so hot.

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:04:46 2021 No.19379659

>>19379398
This. Spotted it a mile away. I probably wouldn't bang an 18 year old but the fact that it has such a negative connotation says everything you need to know about the contradiction feminism is. Either these gals can make their own decisions when they get to college or they can't. You can't have one or the other. Either they choose to get dick or their parents have to set up a marriage. No in betweensies, gurl

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:04:55 2021 No.19379660 >>19379650 want it bad bro. she's such a qt

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:05:47 2021 No.19379664 >>19379650 Fantasized about this countless times. Wouldn't do it but God, there's something so taboo about it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:06:54 2021 No.19379666 College fucking rules: one level difference max undergrad/grad student: okay grad student/professor: okay undergrad/professor: not okay

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:07:51 2021 No.19379669

>>19378846
>all these anons acting high and mighty
Kek as if none of you would be tempted by the tidal waves of free, effortless pussy that comes your way. I'm a relatively normal horny dude but if hot, young gals from all wakes of life threw themselves at me without me having to put any effort... goddamn, I'm only a man

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:08:39 2021 No.19379675
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>>19379248
I don't think he was balding, this photo is from 2006 and he was wearing the bandana for long before this. I always kind of took it as a weird little autist affectation. He said he wore it because he sweat like crazy, which tracks with some of the characters he wrote who were absolutely neurotic and terrified about how much they sweat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:09:07 2021 No.19379678 >>19379666 college fucking rules: have sex with your wife only

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:09:09 2021 No.19379679 >>19379659 >power dynamics aren't real, no I'm not being nefarious what do you mean the implications? >>19379650 The idea is. Wasn't really worth it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:10:39 2021 No.19379687

>>19379387
Just shamelessly mainline the stuff that makes you still makes you happy. DFW did that with TV and was able to manage his depression until he went off his meds. Once he went off they never worked the same when he went on, and couldn't find enjoyment in anything any more.

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:12:09 2021 No.19379695

>>19379679
>muh power dynamics
That's my point, retard. Feminism tries to portray these college girls as free and independent but the second they start sleeping with an older guy (which most of them are attracted to) everybody goes crazy. It's almost as if there's an instinctive aversion to young broads getting fucked by anything that moves

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:13:49 2021 No.19379705 >>19379678 >college fucking rules this part is based but the rest of the post is shit >>19379669 NOT fucking hot young girls is the sin here

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:14:57 2021 No.19379713 >>19379695 feminism is straight-up anti-human gnostic cope. it's old women who lived failed lives directing everyone along their path like "oh yeah, this is totally the good one." should be deplatformed

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:21:37 2021 No.19379740

>>19379695
>>19379713
>Feminism tries to portray these college girls as free and independent but the second they start sleeping with an older guy
>feminism is straight-up anti-human gnostic cope.
Feminism™
This is the way a sane rational individual approaches a 100 year old social movement with a massive library of work and dialogue behind it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:22:56 2021 No.19379750 >>19379273 We're animals, and adapting to animal society means acting like a psycho Socially maladapted people are those who reject animal nature No wonder monks and other pacifists can only live in isolation

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:24:20 2021 No.19379756 File: 76 KB, 599x599, 20211103_015213.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19379713 My power levels are getting so high that I'm starting to become openly sexist. I find the idea of gender equality, or equality in general, absurd and naive

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:25:23 2021 No.19379760 >>19379740 Can't tell if you're being sarcastic but under almost any circumstance feminism is garbage. Just look at how many miserable, single, childless women there are out there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:26:56 2021 No.19379768 >>19379740 >massive library of work and dialogue behind it. wait until you see the crystal healing page count

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:27:33 2021 No.19379773 >>19379756 Funny enough, if you're not bitter about it people will often shrug, laugh and just be like "wellp. That's just anon being a sexist" Even my gf accepts it t. Open sexist

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:28:17 2021 No.19379780 File: 8 KB, 228x221, images.jpeg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19379650 >>19379705 *raping

Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:35:58 2021 No.19379821

>>19379760
>Can't tell if you're being sarcastic but under almost any circumstance masculinity is garbage. Just look at how many miserable, single, childless men there are out there.
>Can't tell if you're being sarcastic but under almost any circumstance christianity is garbage. Just look at how many miserable, single, childless christians there are out there.
>Can't tell if you're being sarcastic but under almost any circumstance science is garbage. Just look at how many miserable, single, childless scientists there are out there.
>Can't tell if you're being sarcastic but under almost any circumstance reading is garbage. Just look at how many miserable, single, childless literate humans there are out there.
Thanks for putting together a well reasoned, good faith response bro. Keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 10 23:54:33 2021 No.19379927 >>19379780 Are you a rapist, anon?

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 00:11:06 2021 No.19380006

>>19378846
He wrote 'The Depressed Person' - you might be able to relate to that. It's very short when compared to Infinite Jest.

'The Depressed Person' is a short fictional story about, well, a depressed person. In University we chose to present on it by comparing it with a different text and we received an ovation while standing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 00:14:58 2021 No.19380032 >>19379927 I do take part in deterministic rapism yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 00:19:17 2021 No.19380063 >>19380006 He wrote that to make fun of Elizabeth Wurtzel because she wouldn't fuck him

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 00:28:53 2021 No.19380138 >>19380063 >>19380006 half dozen of one, six of the other.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 00:29:38 2021 No.19380143 >>19379364 suicide hits the bass

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 00:35:59 2021 No.19380193 File: 241 KB, 500x775, 1634961589341.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How many pussies you wanna fuck? Wait the fuck up. None of them can give you the universe. The lucky are those who die young as the apothegm goes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 00:36:15 2021 No.19380198 >>19378942 yeah sure

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 00:37:17 2021 No.19380209 >>19378965 I want to make a tiktok dance for Dostos birthday, but Russia is too far for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 03:59:17 2021 No.19380909 >>19380209 what is wrong with your?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 04:01:48 2021 No.19380915 >>19378846 In case it wasn't obvious, people who say "have sex" aren't having it or aren't satisfied with what they're having.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 04:06:10 2021 No.19380931 >>19379669 It didn't make him happy. It doesn't make anyone happy. But they do it because of peer pressure from sexless people who would call them a loser or fag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 04:20:23 2021 No.19380961 >>19379175 Depression seems to be inherently narcissistic in nature.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 04:21:28 2021 No.19380966 >>19379273 I know that feel. Literal demons.

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:02:23 2021 No.19381450

>>19379382
>You can't fully face the void unless you're alone
quite the opposite, actually. you are complaining about life and haven't even fulfilled one of the most basic human needs. until all your basic needs are met, it isn't even possible to look at the void, and know for sure it is truly the Void you're looking at, instead of just the emptiness of an unmet need.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:08:55 2021 No.19381467 >>19381450 >you can't grapple with your ontological poverty until... you've fulfilled maslow's hierarchy of needs? Are you fucking retarded or what kid?

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:10:56 2021 No.19381473

>>19379345
This. There are no authors and thinkers for us, bro. Even Nietzsche: it's easy to preach strength and overcoming when you're a Nietzsche, when you have the ability and foresight to know you're the prophet of your generation. Even Laruelle.

In our smallness, we are greater than them.

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:14:52 2021 No.19381484

>>19379821
Kek talking about a good faith response. Every single (and I'm not kidding) muh feminism harpy that I know is either single, raising a single kid or on meds. Maybe a few of them aren't but most of the time when they aren't some of the above they embrace their feminine side or have a good man leading them, funny enough.

Masculinity is the only thing making guys able to get relationships and is nowhere near a movement the likes of Feminism XD
Christian men get married more than almost any other male demographic.
Scientists might have trouble getting laid because of their autism.

I know you're being sarcastic but you get my point. Feminism is objectively wrong and there's countless proof for that. it forces women to go against their nature and they're clearly unhappy for it. Go back

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:16:48 2021 No.19381487 >>19381467 did you have an argument? I stand by what I said. You can't separate your circumstances from your philosophical outlook until your circumstances are no longer a psychological drag on you. Also, I'm not a kid, I'm 34 years old.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:17:09 2021 No.19381488 >>19380931 I'm not saying it makes you happy. I'm saying it's still a temptation;maybe the biggest temptation if you're a hot blooded dude

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:17:56 2021 No.19381491 >>19381487 So what? You're 34 with a boy soul. Read it and seethe. You can't know the Void until you're a loveless, sexless failure. Everything else is training wheels.

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:20:22 2021 No.19381496

>>19379273
>successful and “socially adapted” people
He was 100% pure neuroticism and killed himself anon, and his success wasn't anything near the level of Tom Clancy or J. K. Rowling who are functional human beans. His alleged greater success comes from being estimated higher by equally neurotic nerds who think that neuroticism is "noble", "intellectual" and "lofty".

Most people are healthy non-sociopaths and reasonably succesful at what they do. Don't get demoralized.

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Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:29:04 2021 No.19381525

>>19381491
I think what you are trying to say is that it feels worse to be loveless than to be loved. Yeah, obviously. What the discussion is about is whether you are able to have a clear outlook on life and it's perceived "emptiness" or lack of purpose, if you still haven't met some of the basic human needs. How are you able to separate your outlook from the circumstances. My argument is you cannot. I have been on both sides of this. I was a loveless virgin up to the age of 24. And looking back now I can understand that a lot of my frustration was due to my circumstances, and not with existence. Which isn't to say I overcame anything. Now, having a wife and family, home, career, etc, the emptiness is still there, but it is more in focus, and I am able to think more clearly about it.

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:31:51 2021 No.19381534

>>19381525
You talk like people have a choice in the voids they're dealt. I've loved and lost and have never loved since. If I had never loved, I'd have to make do with complete and utter lovelessness, regardless of how much it'd have colored my outlook on things. A void is a void is a void. A desert is a desert. I don't need to do anything for the Full Desert Experience, because it's always there, lurking.

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:44:18 2021 No.19381566

>>19381534
clearly you are frustrated with your circumstances, and I don't fault you for that. what I am saying (and you seem to agree with) is that it clouds your outlook. if someone with extreme physical deformity were to go on a tirade about the emptiness of life and the lack of purpose, etc, we would have good reason to think their outlook was extremely biased by the unfortunate circumstances of their life, no matter how well argued their point is. Even though it is not possible (as you rightly point out, we often cannot help what we are dealt) we cannot say for certain that this deformed person would be quite content with life had they not had their deformity. I would tend to disregard their testimony, in the same way I might a billionaire telling me how great life is.

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:51:23 2021 No.19381587
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>>19381484
>Every single (and I'm not kidding) muh feminism harpy that I know is either single, raising a single kid or on meds. Maybe a few of them aren't but most of the time when they aren't some of the above they embrace their feminine side or have a good man leading them, funny enough.
>Feminism is objectively wrong and there's countless proof for that. it forces women to go against their nature and they're clearly unhappy for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:52:42 2021 No.19381592 >>19379364 Suicide is cowardice and you are too much of a coward to ever suicide. (Which is good)

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 07:57:22 2021 No.19381615 >>19378885 This

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 08:35:10 2021 No.19381744 >>19379345 Sorry bro, when you learn true empathy(from full hatred) you'll generally become a transcendal person and people will like you. Basically fakecels are the most advanced people to exist.

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 09:13:24 2021 No.19381865

>>19379756
I'm developing a pet theory that the reason women were denied equal access to education and opportunity historically had to do with faggots. Faggots are the secret rulers across all ages of history. All those gatekeeping mysoginst intellectuals with their all male pedo schools? All faggots. Faggotry is a disease that propogates through traumatic experiences. Faggots are forced to undergo early adulthood transition because of being ritually sodomized. Anal sex is the baptism of the faggot. They also then have contact with someone much older and more established in the world than themselves whereas hetero relationships usually naturally stay within closer age gaps at the beginning. The forced end of childhood contributes to gays being smarter on average than straights. It also explains the woman hate in this board overrun by faggots. I really do think that rampant misogyny is descended from gatekeeping fags. Low value men whine about tfw no gf, but high value misogynists who actually had power and wielded it against women reek of faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 09:21:04 2021 No.19381890 >>19379079 Don’t know why people don’t get your post. I can easily infer what the understanding is and your not very cryptic, it’s a well written concise truth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 09:25:17 2021 No.19381902 >>19381592 Suicide is natural

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 09:30:07 2021 No.19381913

>>19381534
It's not a void because you still believe its manifestation would bring you peace. If not peace, then at least something. The true void obliterates all desires. Those who have had the misfortune to encounter the self annihilating true void know that comparisons of experience or lack of experience are not even on the same playing field as the void. Radical depersonalization does not care about the person you were or the state you are in. Depression is its own flavor of suffering because it is conscious and ego driven. The void is the limbo between consciousness and unconsciousness. The disruption of the void is an egoless experience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 09:34:43 2021 No.19381927 >>19379594 >Hedonism is the closest thing we have to meaning lmao and communism is the closest thing we have to utopia amirite

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 09:37:03 2021 No.19381932 That kind of makes him an asshole

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 10:36:00 2021 No.19382110 >>19378846 David Foster Wallace?? More like Done Fucking Women am i right

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 12:23:26 2021 No.19382574 >>19381913 except despair can phase you into that egoless void, "I've" experienced it myself >>19381865 both would be right to say so from their respective position. there is no such thing as a biased reality, only realities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 12:35:22 2021 No.19382627 >>19381932 cope virgin

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 13:43:17 2021 No.19382990 >>19379004 when my parents die i can kill myself

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 14:43:38 2021 No.19383243 >>19382990 Don't kill yourself, anon. Why sit around and wait for your parents to die instead of building a decent life for yourself? Do you not feel capable?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 14:44:04 2021 No.19383249 >>19382627 Enjoy raising kids that aren't yours

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 15:22:38 2021 No.19383389 >>19383249 Based

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 17:01:59 2021 No.19383904

>>19383243
i’m working on it and i don’t have specific plans and i write and write well but there really doesn’t seem to be any meaning to it and i considered it deeply last summer and thought “well, i’m not gonna do that to my parents” so while i attempt to assemble something meaningful before their death, which should be at least 15 years from now, i don’t really take any pleasure in my life and i’m half-waiting while pursuing meaning as i can

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 17:09:13 2021 No.19383930 >>19383904 based waiting for his parents to die before he kills himself poster. I saved you a seat

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 17:41:22 2021 No.19384112 >He once asked his friend Jonathan Franzen if his only purpose on Earth is “to put my penis in as many vaginas as possible.” Iktf DFW, iktf

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 17:44:47 2021 No.19384131 >>19378846 This is why you don't idolize people. they have flaws. grow up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 17:45:50 2021 No.19384136 DFW was a lifelong poseur, that he would milk his fame to fuck hipster chicks doesn't surprise me in the least.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 18:01:06 2021 No.19384206 >>19378942 >AAAAAAAHHHHHHH I'M HAVING SEX AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH >NOOOOOOOO PLEEEEAAAAASEEEE AAAAHHHHHHH SEEEEEEEXXXX

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:12:43 2021 No.19384993 >>19378915 Lol I want to believe this was what sent him over the edge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:14:08 2021 No.19385000 >>19379098 David Lobster Walrus

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:18:49 2021 No.19385013 This board should just forget all of these talentless american pomos - they’re completely vacuous and build their worldviews on pop culture and self-help books

Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:22:34 2021 No.19385032

>>19385013
this is why they're important

every body of literature is built upon the beliefs and the narratives and the spiritual literature of its era

imagine a people for whom faith itself was being replaced by tony robbins and oprah and cnn

really interesting stuff homie

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:23:04 2021 No.19385038 >>19381587 Lol thanks for proving my point by literally responding with my own argument. Go back to rddit and ask for some bzzfeed infographics to help ya out. No this isn't spam, fucking captchas ruining everything

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:25:48 2021 No.19385050 >>19379773 lmao this is actually true

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:28:05 2021 No.19385067 >>19380006 wasnt that the first thing he ever wrote?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:28:15 2021 No.19385069 >>19382110 well he is now

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:29:39 2021 No.19385077 >>19385013 why? as an american i felt like his writing put some shit into perspective for me

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 21:30:31 2021 No.19385083 >>19379773 And also, the more sexist you are the wetter their vaginas get. I don't want this to be true but it be what it be

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 22:11:58 2021 No.19385257 >>19378965 I agree

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 11 22:38:04 2021 No.19385382 >>19379161 There are people who will throw away lifelong friendships just to sleep with a friend's ex girlfriend.

Anonymous Fri Nov 12 06:19:24 2021 No.19386861

>>19379773
even the most liberal people are very accepting of jovial sexism and racism, as long as you're poking fun at everyone and not just targeting a single group all the time. what spergs here don't understand is that nobody wants to hear your ideological manifesto about why X group of people is inferior.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 12 06:28:45 2021 No.19386887 File: 691 KB, 800x1020, ezgif-7-ec6862dbb4d7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19378846 >vaginas Typical am*rican degenerate pseud. Any true intellectual would be enjoying the company of twinks and attractive young men

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 12 09:48:27 2021 No.19387426 File: 472 KB, 602x980, soy overdose.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19384206 >NOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE TO CUM IN THIS PUSSY NIGGERMAN SAVEEEE MEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous Fri Nov 12 09:56:11 2021 No.19387453

>>19384206
>>19387426
You don't understand existential suffering. The more sex I have, the more I see the biological drive that's using me as puppet. Taking a step back and looking at the body is sickening. Why turn your attention toward youth? I beautiful young woman is destined to rot the same as you.

I also fear how easy it would be to get a girl pregnant and create another consciousness destined to suffer and live in dread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 12 09:58:16 2021 No.19387460 >>19378846 no it goes to show you can be kind of ugly and still sleep with lots of girls

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 12 12:35:33 2021 No.19388045 >>19387453 /Thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 12 12:55:36 2021 No.19388159 >>19387453 >create another consciousness destined to suffer and live in dread >he thinks consciousness can be created don't worry about it bro, all matter is already conscious. go ahead and pump a baby into a nice girl. it feels good.

Anonymous Fri Nov 12 13:05:36 2021 No.19388198

>>19378846
I'll never understand this: nowadays any trait of an author some people perceive as a flaw becomes a reason for canceling his work. This is stupid: if you like a book you read it, that's as difficult as it should be. The author is sexist, hates niggers, foes drugs, kills people? Who cares! Just read the goddamn book. Or not, who cares?

Fucking zoomer faggots.

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