/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19372498]

>a genre with limitless creative potential where authors can transcend the boundaries of reality itself
>...it's literally just one guy's book being copied over and over and over again
Names for this phenomenon?

[Anonymous No.19372505]

>>19372498
>Names for this phenomenon?
cringe

[Anonymous No.19372513]

>>19372498
>Names for this phenomenon?
shit taste in books, m8

[Anonymous No.19372536]

>>19372498
>Names for this phenomenon?
Genre fiction

[Anonymous No.19372543]

If a book advertises itself as having
-a dragon
-an elf
-a mystical artifact
Then you can be well assured that the book is absolute horseshit. Dragons are fucking cringe.

[Anonymous No.19372550]

>>19372513
Name five (5) fantasy novels that actually do something unique with the genre instead of being Tolkien garbage. I've come across one (1) in my entire life, and it was written decades before the man was born.

[Anonymous No.19372557]

Finding the peak. Yes, any deviation from Homer is downhill, this has been understood for a long time.

[Anonymous No.19372598]

>>19372536
>modern literary fiction is plagued by soulless urbanite NPCs literally recreating the "I fucking love the hustle and bustle of the city" greentext

>modern genre fiction is the Far Cry 3 guy in an ork costume repeating "Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?" for the past century and counting

[Anonymous No.19372761]

>>19372598
old literature was probably like this too, we just don't remember most of the bad fotm literature.

[Anonymous No.19372784]

>>19372498
There's plenty of books that break this to some extent but I agree, it's not enough. Even only evaluating it in light of myth and folklore, it falls flat hard.

[Anonymous No.19372788]

>>19372498
predigested
applies to nearly all mediums

[Anonymous No.19372794]

>>19372498
>Names for this phenomenon?
genre fiction

[Anonymous No.19372801]

>>19372598
Any examples?

[Anonymous No.19372807]

i don't think fantasy is a very good term for the genre fiction it is associated with. when i think of fantasy i think of kafka, marquez, borges ... fantasy is too broad a term for a genre which is so narrow today, being confined to tolkienesque races, creatures and lands.

[Anonymous No.19372815]

>>19372784
What books?

[Anonymous No.19372863]

Routinization of charisma

But only if you actually look into the etymology of χάρις and why Weber chose it

[Anonymous No.19372881]

Plebs don't even know

[Anonymous No.19373062]

>>19372881
Red pill me on this?

[Anonymous No.19373151]

Mythic poetry, Dionysian imitatio

[Anonymous No.19373169]

xianxia?

[Anonymous No.19373186]

>>19372498
>>a genre with limitless creative potential where authors can transcend the boundaries of reality itself
>>...it's literally just one guy's book being copied over and over and over again
>Names for this phenomenon?
It’s called a genre

[Anonymous No.19373214]

it's because tolkien in his high epic fantasy almost perfectly embodied the appolonian themes of the european (and other races) souls

In the other case with the sword and sorcery genre authors such as robert e howard almost perfectly embodied the chaotic, instinctual dionysian themes of mankind

[Anonymous No.19374461]

>>19372550
Bump.

[Anonymous No.19374517]

>>19373062
There’s nothing to redpill about it faggot. You either read it and become part of the sekrit club or get filtered forever

[Anonymous No.19375000]

>>19374517
Rude.

[Anonymous No.19375112]

>>19372550
DUNC?

[Anonymous No.19375116]

>>19372498
Come on guys, somebody write something creative and amusing

[Anonymous No.19375118]

>>19372881
was gonna do this too. Peace is peak highbrow fantasy

[Anonymous No.19375122]

>>19375118
*Peake. goddamned phoneposting

[Anonymous No.19375143]

>>19375118
>>19372881
don't you have to read that dickens book first to be able to "get" this?

[Anonymous No.19375157]

>>19375122
Basrd phone phoster

[Anonymous No.19375175]

>>19372498
There's plenty of fantasy that has nothing to do with LOTR, e.g. His Dark Materials.

[Anonymous No.19375471]

>>19372498
Economics

[Anonymous No.19375543]

>>19375143
What Dickens' book?
Either way, you probably should read the Bible first to get LotR yet most people don't therefore you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.19376347]

Bump
Come on guys is this the best you could do?
Show your potential

[Anonymous No.19376819]

>>19375471
Underrated.

[Anonymous No.19376889]

>still no aztec fantasy epic
>still no age of exploration fantasy epic
>still no MENA fantasy epic
>still no african fantasy epic
>nope, just more tired Medieval and Scifi stories treading the tracks made by LotR and Dune

[Anonymous No.19376931]

>>19376889
>and Dune
>I discovered that Dune exists when I heard about the movie and now all sci-fi is Dune
>Dune is like LOTR but sci-fi because Dune is big, they made a movie of it just like LOTR so Dune = SF LOTR
>Literally started the sci-fi genre, it didn't exist before
>I have read no genre fiction nor anything else because I don't read but I know genre fiction is bad so I can parrot things I'm uninformed about because I'm LARPing as a cultured man of letters
Can you please name the last 5 fantasy or sci-fi books you have read? I don't read genre fiction but the last sci-fi book I have read was about sapient spiders, I don't see how that is remotely like Dune. Have you read The Culture or other sci-fi series? How are they exactly like Dune? Dunno about fantasy but I have read Elric and apart from having swords in it I don't see how it is a copy of LOTR. And I don't even like genre fiction so I'm ignorant about it.

[Anonymous No.19376941]

>>19376889
Just read pre-dune sci fi

[Anonymous No.19376960]

>>19376931
>I discovered that Dune exists when I heard about the movie and now all sci-fi is Dune

not reading the rest of your post

[Anonymous No.19377033]

>>19376889
>still no aztec fantasy epic
La Saga de Los Confines by Liliana Bodoc, civilizations living in the west are based on american civilizations.