Greeks

[Anonymous No.19347249]

How are they even real? Just think about it, it's something that really happened. They were real humans who were born, were kids who ran around and fell down, made themselves dirty. Had normal human bodies you could touch.

It's surreal how you can be THAT superior that you will be remembered for all eternity and are not distinguishable from mythological figures and Gods. Like where is even the difference between Zeus and Plato anyway. Could be both made up, you can't even tell.

And related to that: what makes a person special? Do you think someone is born for a higher purpose or is it more random?

[Anonymous No.19347257]

>>19347249
The important Greeks were not hylics, their bodies were only vessels.

[Anonymous No.19347258]

The following reply was generated automatically by an AI using OpenAI’s GPT-3

“I think a person is born for a higher purpose. It’s a very interesting idea. I think everyone has a purpose. Everyone has a role to play in society, but that doesn’t mean that that role is what they’re best suited for. It’s that the task will work out for them, but they could end up doing something better.

In other words, everyone has a purpose, but what that purpose is will vary from person to person. It’s a very interesting idea to think about. You’ve got a reason why you’re here. You may not have a reason why you’re here, though. The Greeks were, apparently, very rational still back then. They’re only different because that was the culture that they were living in, but they weren’t that different. It’s like today, like really older society, like the Romans, the Maya, etc. It’s like people born into that inherited religion their entire lives. That’s the only thing that’s different between them and contemporary people who live in the time of internet and mobile phones. It’s like today’s Internet generation is like the last generation.

Unless someone is born blind, if you’re born in Germany, you’re going to be a German citizen. It’s very hard to be an American citizen if you’re born in China. I think the same goes for religion. If you’re born into that, it’s going to be the only thing that you know, that you’ll ever know. You’ll never get a chance to see it for what it really is.”

[Anonymous No.19347293]

>>19347249
Randomness could be part and parcel of a higher purpose for all we know.

But I agree. I also think back to the Greeks with awe. They were the exact same humans as us. They probably thought Greece would last forever and probably thought the fall of their nation was the end of the world. They lived under our same sun and stars. And that was fucking thousands of years ago. Kinda hard for me to wrap my head around, too

[Anonymous No.19347352]

>>19347258
stop spamming this garbage nigger

[Anonymous. No.19347388]

>>19347249
I was thinking about Euclid yesterday and how bizarre it must have been for geometry to be mysterious and new. It's not anything about the Greeks themselves, they just lived in an amazing time because so little had been laid down. The real mindfuck for me is that the literary basis for civilization is only 40 lifetimes old. They were just like us, that's what doesn't compute about their apparent dignity and superiority.

[Anonymous. No.19347632]

>>19347249
>It's surreal how you can be THAT superior that you will be remembered for all eternity and are not distinguishable from mythological figures and Gods. Like where is even the difference between Zeus and Plato anyway. Could be both made up, you can't even tell.
The human is unironically better. Zeus hasn't written shit. He makes no display of personality or intellect. He's a fairly one-dimensional fictional character. The better example would be Socrates or Jesus, very outspoken and unique people, but still sometimes thought to be created by their promoters.

It's wild that those guys were ordinary human beings, they seem both incomparably superior and worlds away from us. But are they so far? Historians and scientists are always exaggerating distances and time scales for effect. This is terrible for society because now, after the millennium, whole generations grow up believing they are insignificant and purposeless in an endless wilderness of spacetime. Carl Sagan's generation absolutely took for granted the belief that, barring nuclear war, humanity would persevere and progress in some direction, and continue colonizing with our growing numbers. That is the context of his life's work. Without belief in the forward progress of events, Sagan and the genre he inspired become prophets of a vast emptiness that looks imperiously down at us. Paleontology and geology are also culpable for people's exaggerated nihilism about time. The sciences want to be taken seriously, but to the layman's psychology it's just another dark myth. In reality, humans live a long time relative to recorded history. Jesus accomplished all his preaching in three years -- there's no reason for anyone to feel small.

[Anonymous No.19347639]

>I saw inside his cloak and caught fire, and could possess myself no longer; and I thought none was so wise in love-matters as Cydias, who in speaking of a beautiful boy recommends someone to "beware of coming as a fawn before the lion, and being seized as his portion of flesh"; for I too felt I had fallen a prey to some such creature.

[Anonymous No.19347695]

>>19347249
Greeks are overhyped and boring. I literally don't understand why people like them so much.

[Anonymous No.19347949]

>>19347388
The geometry of antique times was vastly different than the contemporary conceptions of geometry, as with numbers. You would likely not know what you were seeing if you were exposed to real pythagorean mathematical tradition.

[Anonymous No.19348370]

>>19347695
midwitt

[Anonymous No.19348431]

>>19347695
Filtered

[Anonymous No.19348439]

>>19347695
Literally the foundation of all Western civilization. You're a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.19348442]

>>19347695
absolutely filtered

[Anonymous No.19348477]

>>19347249
This but exclusively for Plrato

[Anonymous No.19348517]

>>19347258
nonsense
>>19347695
holy filteroni

[Anonymous No.19348538]

>>19347695
You must be 18 or over to post here

[Anonymous No.19348547]

Why are the ancient Greeks so superior to modern Greeks?

[Anonymous No.19348556]

>>19347249
my thoughts exactly... it's really insane sometimes. i get this eerie feeling when some greek work mentions a very routine little thing and i realise again that they breathed the same air and trode the same earth.

[Anonymous No.19348565]

>>19348547
You already know the answer

[Anonymous No.19348585]

I wonder how happy the average ancient Greek was compared to the average American.

[Anonymous No.19348621]

>>19347695
tits or gtfo

[Anonymous No.19348637]

>>19348547
All modern "cultures" are ZOG'd beyond repair

[Anonymous No.19348649]

>>19348565
take your meds

[Anonymous No.19348650]

>>19348565
fucking based

[Anonymous No.19348660]

>>19348649
>>19348650
The duality of /lit/

[Anonymous No.19348742]

>>19348565
how did I know

[Anonymous No.19348761]

>>19347249
>that you will be remembered for all eternity
been less than three thousand years, what eternity?

[Anonymous No.19348794]

>>19348565
It's actually all fault of the the Turks

[Anonymous No.19348813]

>>19348742
Once you notice, you can't un-notice.

[Anonymous No.19348815]

>>19347388

You can tell that they were still sorta new at it because his proof for the Pythagorean Theorem (I.47) is clumsy and unintuitive. It's in The Elements, but it's not "from the book", as mathematicians say of a proof which is not merely correct, but furthermore intuitive and insightful to the point of being beautiful in-itself, as a manifestation of God's thought.

[Anonymous No.19348899]

>>19348761
Technically he's right if you consider eternity "until the end if time". Humanity is almost over, and whatever will remain will be another species entirely, not homo sapiens but homo globalis or homo consumens

[Anonymous. No.19348900]

>>19347949
/lit/ sounds most serious and educated in replies that have nothing whatsoever to do with the post they're directed at.

[Anonymous No.19348913]

>>19347695
its the tourist midwits trying to fit in

[Anonymous No.19348920]

>>19347695
What race are you?

[Anonymous No.19348938]

>>19348913
>t. seething commie

[Anonymous. No.19348949]

>>19347632
>>19347639
>>19347695
Anyone know a place where there's more discussion like the first post, and less like the other two, but I can still say trannies aren't women?

[Anonymous No.19348954]

>>19348949
no anon this is literally the only place left

[Anonymous No.19348961]

do you have any books to discuss or do you just want to dick ride dead people

[Anonymous No.19348973]

>>19347249
Reactionary chuds don't want to hear this but a big factor in it was Athenian democracy. It became possible for more people to do things, and while Athenian society had its limits, it permitted more free thinking than far beyond the despotic norm of the times. It enabled the freer development of philosophy, drama, and more.

[Anonymous. No.19348983]

>>19348954
This situation is getting desperate. Trannies do nothing but sit at the computer. They are here despite every effort, probably in this thread right now, because they aren't horrified by gore, utter debasement, or sexual perversion. The last line of defense, a few anons with folders of memes, can only do so much. They could be defeated from the administrative side by trannies any day now.

We have to come up with a long-term solution.

[Anonymous No.19349011]

>>19348973
>Look at all of Greek civilization and culture
>Yep, thank the Athenians
Fuck off, Epirus was way more influential and was basically responsible for the culmination of Greek culture throughout Europe.

[Anonymous No.19349046]

>>19348983
The only solution is to either leave the internet or getting used to communicating 1 on 1, communities as we know them are no longer viable.

[Anonymous No.19349086]

>>19349046
wrong.
If you adopt that attitude, you become part of the killing blow to your precious community.
Stand strong and always remind trannoids that they're mentally ill freaks cosplaying as the opposite sex. If you allow yourself to be demoralized and beaten down by some fucking internet troons, can you really go on living with your head held high?

[Anonymous No.19349097]

>>19349086
Why are you even so obsessed with it? It's a non-issue.

[Anonymous No.19349101]

>>19347249
They're kind of overrated desu. They set a course for the west while the east already had the end-game truth.

[Anonymous No.19349155]

>>19349101
Based Guenonfag

[Anonymous No.19349188]

>>19349101
>muh eastern thinkers are LE BETTER
that's why they're doing so well now, innit? I'm sure the overarching history of Asia isn't a societal, cultural and scientific stagnation spanning three thousand years

[Anonymous No.19349266]

>>19347249
>They were real humans who were born, were kids who ran around and fell down, made themselves dirty.
The average Greek was a screeching autist of improbable proportion. The vast majority of them had the psychological maturity of an adolescent throughout their adult life. They could be manipulated easier than the average child you'll encounter today. I am not exaggerating, read the arguments that swayed the juries in the legal cases that we still have.

[Anonymous No.19349273]

>>19349097
Repression and testosterone do a number to a woman’s psyche

[Anonymous No.19349281]

>>19349188
>that's why they're doing so well now, innit?
Yes, China is steadily overtaking the United States & Europe

[Anonymous No.19349294]

>>19349188
The west ran itself to spiritual death. But it has better amenities, sure.

[Anonymous No.19349300]

>>19348973
Yeah, not really anon; if anything, drama was launched by the Peisistratid tyranny,and philosophers were constantly getting into scrapes with Athenian democracy (a concept completely alien to "chuds" as you call them, and probably the average contemporary person like you); not to mention all the "developments" (your expression again) in oligarchic poleis
Basically, no need to be a chud to refuse and refute your account;it's enough to have a basic knowledge of history.

[Anonymous No.19349304]

>>19349011
That guy was a retard, but that's a rather bold statement

[Anonymous No.19349495]

>>19349266
cope hands typed this post

[Anonymous No.19349527]

>>19349294
Not if I have anything to say about it.

[Anonymous No.19349677]

>>19348949
The Roman Republic

[Anonymous No.19349803]

>>19347632
holy based

[Anonymous No.19349859]

>>19347249
I'm surprised these faggots had enough heterosexual sex to procreate. Anyone who worships these degenerate homosexual pedophiles is a bigger faggot than they were.

[Anonymous No.19350067]

>>19349859
Cope.

[Anonymous No.19350090]

>>19349859
This gay shit is enormously exaggerated or taken out of context. Remember that the trannies have owned academia for decades.

[Anonymous No.19350094]

>>19350090
>decades
Millennia

[Anonymous No.19350117]

>>19350090
>This gay shit is enormously exaggerated or taken out of context
t. didn't read the greeks

[Anonymous No.19350121]

>>19350094
No seriously, they will warp everything you may latch on to. Every facet of your culture and identity will be pozzed. Every now and then they come out with some outrageous thing like censoring Mohammed out of the Divine Comedy, but I am absolutely certain that this is programmed as a decoy so that you do not see the more subtle changes that are pushed unofficially. One of these is that the Greeks were a bunch of foppy gaylords. They probably treated homosexuals like every other culture on Earth but ours treated them: punishing them. Because homosexuals are driven by vice and immorality and no sane society would want them.
>>19350117
Dilate.

[Anonymous No.19350138]

>>19350121
Try reading the greeks for a change before spouting bullshit, chud retard

[Anonymous No.19350160]

>>19350138
Don't lecture me you stupid burger tranny. This narrative came up in the last 10 years. Nobody had ever insisted so much on this until recently, because people were trying to rediscover classicism so your little mafia had to poz it. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.19350185]

>>19349527
>then proceeds to say nothing

[Anonymous No.19350356]

>>19347249
The average Athens citizen had an IQ of 140+. Ancient Greeks were caucasians who somehow for several hundred years managed to avoid "resection to the means". Also living on islands helps a lot to a point where even the most powerful empire in the world is bottlenecked in its ability to invade and occupy your lands.

[Anonymous No.19350392]

>>19350356
>The average Athens citizen had an IQ of 140+
imagine being this deluded

[Anonymous No.19350406]

>>19350392
They were also totally jacked. Everyone /fitlit/ to the max

[Anonymous No.19350411]

>>19350406
>jacked=IQ of 140+
the absolute state of this anon

[Anonymous No.19350416]

>>19350411
I'm not him I was being sarcastic

[Anonymous No.19350430]

>>19350406
>>19350411
>>19350416
FREE GYM MEMBERSHIP

[Anonymous No.19350434]

>>19350430
what a time to live in

[Anonymous No.19350475]

>>19347249
They ritualistically took psychedelics en masse, that's how

[Anonymous No.19350529]

For some reason I don't find it surprising that smart people existed or exist. People who form wise conclusions. If anything, that might be easier to achieve than in modern (technological, capitalist) society.

[Anonymous No.19350882]

>>19350090
>>19350121
>>19350160
>This narrative came up in the last 10 years. Nobody had ever insisted so much on this until recently
How can one man be so wrong

[Anonymous No.19350974]

>>19347249
Remember most of these people were aristocrats with slaves they could devote themselves wholly to their fields and not worry their heads with our daily troubles.

[Anonymous No.19350987]

the past is vaster and stranger than we have been taught to imagine it, and it belongs only to those who lived it
-paraphrase of keith something or other (taylor?)

[Anonymous No.19351067]

>>19347695
Here's your (you).

Have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.19351108]

>>19347695
Clinical shit taste

[Anonymous No.19351109]

>>19347695
>t.Rabbi Psychostein

[Anonymous No.19351142]

>>19350882
This image also shows one of the most evil cultural permeations of the Greeks: their pedophilia.

[Anonymous No.19351171]

>>19348547
The sub human brown retard nigger child races always flood into the lands of the high order Aryan (Caucasian) God races with the help of Satan’s chosen psychopaths (Jews).

[Anonymous No.19351208]

>>19348920
Jewish

[Anonymous No.19351510]

>>19350067
>>19350090
You've obviously never read the Greeks. I actually had to read all that gay shit. It's definitely not the media or anything like that. The translations make the Greeks sound less gay.

[Anonymous No.19351924]

>>19351510
Are you a zoomer or what? I've read them in school. They had a culture of pederasty which is true but on the gay shit I've never seen this obsessed emphasis.