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If Zoroastrianism had beaten the evil Abrahamic religions in the proselytizing game, all West Eurasians would be more inclined in viewing idyllic scenes of peace and tranquility as blessed by Spenta Mainyu, the spirit of Ahura Mazda.

Zoroastrians had different schools of interpretation, so if it were to spread, there would be different sects. However, they were all united by basing their metaphysical structures on this quote from the Gathas, Yasna 30:

"There are two primeval spirits, twins who are revealed
[to us] through dream.
In mind, in speech, and even in deed they are better and bad:
The good choose between them correctly, not the evil."

Note the "revealed in dreams". This indicates that creativity and phenomenal experience are connected to the Twin Mainyus. Mainyu has the dual meaning of both spirit and state of mind. We can further extrapolate how engaging in certain creative activities such as writing can manifest instances of artwork that are more aligned with either Spenta ('sacred') or Angra ('destructive') Mainyu. If Zoroastrianism were to spread, we would have discussions on what are metaphysical and phenomenological properties of Spenta and Angra Mainyu and how they manifest in this world of dualistic struggle.

This picture is an expression of Spenta Mainyu. When we go into deep reverie, preferably in solitude within natural scenery, and open our hearts, we can feel the light of Spenta Mainyu pour into our souls from the joyous singing of the birds, the warm magnificent sun, the play of the otters in the soothing river, and so forth. Likewise, we can manifest spenta or angra in our own artwork or dreams.

We are told dreams can be a gateway to either Spenta or Angra Mainyu. From my own dreams, some of which are more blissful whereas others are nightmarish, I have come to deduce they're unique in that within its seamless space the individuated characters which appear are manifestations of its oneiric fabric. However, while there may be a unifying character underlying the dream, the dream's instantiations of its salient mood are defined by an irreconcilable dualism. The instantiation of a serene dream is one expression of the substance of Ahura Mazda that has a determinate line separating it from ∀hriman's nightmares. A dream of absolute bliss, a dream where all beings are happy, this dream is real. The unreal can become real, they can blur, but good and evil can never blur because the dream itself can be wholly benign in a manner that is untainted by any defilement, by any darkness.

I am a prophet and come with a message that seeks to spread spenta dreams and end the tyranny of KARAPANS like the Rothschild, Rockefeller, and Du Pont families who have manufactured a nightmarish scamdemic for the sole purpose of having Black Rock and Vanguard buy up everything. Imagine if communities like those found in Three Lives of Thomasina were to become more widespread? The dreams of light would work to vanquish the darkness.

>> No.19340411

>>19340399
I have had another dream recently. My soul appeared during their black mass where they sacrificed a child. I am destined to destroy these treacherous demons of ∀hriman! I will help create a new age where dualism is once more respected, and the evil, heinous Freemasons and Frankist Sabbateans receive righteous retribution! I possess the eternal flaming sword, blessed by Attar, which will slay the demons of darkness and banish their lies of nihilism and libertinism.

>> No.19340434

Dead religions will stay dead. They're not around for a reason

>> No.19340445

>>19340434
Technically speaking, it's not dead.

>> No.19340665

Nobody gives a fuck, it didn't happen, and you're not going to change anything. You're going to have to face it someday

>> No.19340682

>>19340399
>has the dual meaning of both spirit and state of mind
It is one of course.

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>>19340665
Sorry, but I can't understand daevas like you.

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>>19340682
You will never be a woman, karapa.

>> No.19340710

>>19340683
I spoke plainly. You will die lonely and change nothing. I guess it's nice to larp as some mystic though. Do it in real life to solicit more laughs however

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>>19340710
You need to lay off the pessimistic literature, you edgelord fatalist. Ligotti doesn't touch the truth, even though his literature has a lot of literary value.

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>>19340399
>Spenta Mainyu
Do you think Monet’s art channels Spenta Mainyu?

>> No.19342292

>>19341859
Yes, I like Monet a lot. I have a couple of Monet artbooks for reference.
Spenta is infinite and inexhaustible in its expression even though it exists within certain constraints.

>> No.19342319

>If Zoroastrianism had beaten the evil Abrahamic religions in the proselytizing game, all West Eurasians would be more inclined in viewing idyllic scenes of peace and tranquility
that would have been the case if simply any religion or religious teaching other than Abrahamic ones had been dominant. even Neoplatonism would do. Judaism and its offshoots are just so fucking soulless.

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>>19340724
>zoro books list
>no shahnameh
>no persian works of any kind

lol

>> No.19343173

>>19343150
Color of Paradise is on Spenta Film list.
The Blind Owl is on the Angra list.
Shahnameh would be on Spenta list, but I haven't read all of it. Even Dick Davis' English translation, the best one, isn't complete.
Also, you have to account for individual taste.

>> No.19343175

>>19340399
Before we discuss this, post an EU4 or perhaps a CKII or III campaign featuring some sort of Zoroastrian world conquest. Then We can talk.

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>>19340702
Why so angra?

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>>19343173
Didn't see the authors / filmakers. Carry on.

>> No.19343434

>>19340399
Lmao this guy again. He thinks Zoroastrianism means watching anime and playing Dark Souls

>> No.19343509

>>19343434
>deliberately misrepresenting my views
Nope, that's not what I was arguing. This article argues what Zoroastrianism is about:
http://www.zoroastrian.org.uk/vohuman/Article/Asha,%20God%27s%20Willl.htm
Key quote:
>Unlike Islam, in which man is the abd (slave) of God, and unlike Christianity in which man is God's child, in Zoroastrianism man is God's co-worker.
Zoroastrianism is about purification via good deeds, words, conduct, and so forth. By doing so, one acts as a co-worker with God and helps spread His light/spirit, Spenta Mainyu, more in this world. I also believe creating artwork inspired by love and harmony can also align with asha. Read Wind in the Willows and watch Three Lives of Thomasina for example.