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[Anonymous No.19337965]

Why does Conan the Barbarian fight guant ape men so often?

[Anonymous No.19337977]

>>19337965
mmm niggards

[Anonymous No.19338013]

>>19337965
Cause Atlantians were central to the kull stories and they devolved into ape men

[Anonymous No.19338181]

>>19337977
Close

>>19338013
The Cimmerians are the descendants of the Atlanteans who devolved into a barbaric state. Conans battle against the ape men is a further extension of that battle against spiritual and physical deterioration

[Anonymous No.19338207]

Tarzan and King Kong were popular at the time. Apes were just in the zeitgeist. That and the themes of evolution and human savagery.

[Anonymous No.19338265]

>>19338207
But why were Tarzan and King Kong popular at the time?

[Anonymous No.19338304]

>>19338265
Because of the implications of evolution being explored in fiction plus apes are kind of interesting.

[Anonymous No.19338420]

>>19337965
>Ahhh sheeeit! Hep! Hep!
>Sumbuddy get dis crazy ass cracka offa meeee!!!

[Anonymous No.19338428]

>>19337965
He represents the Aryan against sub-humanity.

[Anonymous No.19338458]

>>19338428
He is the barbarian hero as a middle ground between degenerate civilization and abyssal savagery.

[Anonymous No.19338741]

>>19338428
>>19338458
Which one is it?

[Anonymous No.19338765]

>>19337965
I don't remember fighting them more often than snake/lizard/dragon-like monsters or spiders. And he mostly fights humans anyway, either soldiers or some kind of cultist

[Anonymous No.19338771]

>>19338741
Both but moreso the latter since Howard was very skeptical of "civilizing" colonialists.

[Anonymous No.19338919]

Its all rooted in post colonial fascination with the last remaining mysterious pockets of Africa and the ancient lost world they contained within them, and the sense of the collapsing European imperial world that was collapsing around them in civilization.

[Anonymous No.19339343]

>>19338771
Seems like he was confused

[Anonymous No.19339375]

>>19337965
why did Severian?

[Anonymous No.19339656]

>>19339343
How so?
Conan is brutal, but intelligent, he is a simple, efficient man, moulded by a primordial way of life, and his own innate exceptionalism.
He's a conventional traditional hero, perhaps with more of the archaic Greek conception of heroism, than the latter-day conceit of the same name.

You sound like racist leftie urban culture-trash.

[Anonymous No.19340438]

>>19339656
REH is clearly caught between Aryan high civilization and Barbarian hyper masculine defiance

[Anonymous No.19340514]

>>19340438
He recognized civilization leading to frailty and hubris.

[Anonymous No.19340895]

>>19340438
Aryan just means the Indo-European (White) race. Howard's stories feature Aryan civilized, barbarians and savages as well as non-Aryan civilized, barbarians and savages.

[Anonymous No.19341377]

This book seems interesting. Anyone here know anything about it?
>Ape Culture traces the long cultural and scientific obsession with humanity’s closest relatives. In the Western historical representations of modernity, depictions of apes were traditionally used to show the absence of culture. Standing as a liminal figure separating humans and animals, the ape has, since ancient times, played a central role in the narrative of civilisational progress. This book, which appears in conjunction with the exhibition of the same nameseeks, however, to go beyond the mere examination of apes as signifiers of difference. The juxtaposition of artworks with documents taken from popular culture and the history of primatology gives the reader an insight into what the science historian Donna Haraway has termed the primate order ― a hall of mirrors reflecting the scientific and cultural projections that turned the ape from an instrument of humanity’s self-definition into an integral element in testing out the possibility of reconstructing human nature.

[Anonymous No.19341856]

>>19339375
>Flashes his jewellery
>The apes chill the fuck out

Yep

[Anonymous No.19341870]

>>19337965
To show that hes suprahuman

[Anonymous No.19341898]

>>19341856
lol

[Anonymous No.19341904]

What is the best complete collection of all the Conan stories bros?
I want to read Conan but don't know what edition to get

[Anonymous No.19341912]

>>19341904
The Del Rey editions are the best by far.

[Anonymous No.19341932]

>>19341904
>>19341912
Or you can get the Wandering Star hardcovers if you're rich.

[Anonymous No.19342008]

>>19341904
The Complete Chronicles of Conan. It's a nice hardcover edition, and becoming increasingly rare and thus expensive. Get it if you can, it's probably a future collector's item.

[Anonymous No.19342028]

>>19342008
Don't mislead him. The Del Reys are more complete, have corrected text from the manuscripts and have better introductions, appendices and illustrations.

[Anonymous No.19342149]

>>19342008
I looked it up and it's only more expensive in the US because it's a UK edition.

[Anonymous No.19342268]

>>19338265
>>19338304
Jerry Seinfeld and Eddie Murphy talked about it in Comedians in Cars, they're cool because they're sort of human but still different enough to be weird.
>>19338741
I would say it's much more of the second. Conan is a character who lives outside of civilization and often clashes with it.