Hitler's Revolution

[Anonymous No.19315763]

Has anyone ever read this? Is Hitler really the most lied about man of the last century?

[Anonymous No.19315766]

no, and no

[Anonymous No.19315772]

>>19315763
No, but I have it in my cart to buy eventually. And no comment.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19315775]

He’s lied about on both sides of the argument.
Take it to >>>/his/ or >>>/pol/ please.

[Anonymous No.19315783]

>>19315763
Yes and yes. Pic related might also be of interest to you.
>>19315775
This is a literature thread, buttermilk.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19315806]

>>19315783
Maybe.

[Anonymous No.19315813]

>>19315763
Yes and yes. It doesn't get into the most lied about things though.
It's an interesting reinterpretation but you will get more out of it if you are already familiar with the events involved.

I would reccomend Hitler's War by Irving if you haven't read it already.

[Anonymous No.19315839]

No, Hitler was a pretty massive retard, as are the people who still idolize him. No idea why you'd still hold on to such a massive failure, but then again I'm burdened with sanity and decency

[Anonymous No.19315914]

>>19315763
Can someone tell me if Hitler wanted to genocide slavs or not?
Some people say he didn't full stop while other people say he wanted to genocide the Pöbelvolk, which is still a genocide.
It's weird because some nazi high rankers were slavophiles.

Also, was the holocaust an accident? From my knowledge the Axis were starving from grain shortages

>>19315813
TIK told me not to trust Irving.

[Anonymous No.19315997]

>>19315914
>the Holocaust
>implying
Read Deating the Holocaust by Thomas Dalton

>TIK told me not to trust Irving.
He was the most celebrated second world war historian before he got cancelled by Jews. Even the British judge at his trial conceded he had made convincing points

[Anonymous No.19316034]

>>19315763
>Is Hitler really the most lied about man of the last century?
Yes actually, in that the official narrative of him being an agent tasked with organising a pogrom on Christian Europe, is well buried.
Daryl Bradford Smith - 100 top Nazi SS officers were 100% Jewish.

17 m 25 s - 21 m 55 s

(vol.6)

https://archive.org/details/OAA_2019_-_Miscellaneous_Material_Collection/%5BVol.+06%5D.mp3

EVA BRAUN'S SISTER REVEALS SHE WAS A JEW.

40 m - 40 m 42 s

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uhLQpjbmPro&feature=youtu.be

Jewish roots of Nazism.

http://shoebat.com/2018/09/12/the-jewish-roots-of-nazi-occultism/

[Anonymous No.19316059]

>>19315914
>>19315997
Paul RASSINIER - Debunking the Genocide Myth.

A Study of the Nazi Concentration Camps and the Alleged Extermination of European Jewry (1978)

(14) "For fifteen years, every time that I heard of a witness anywhere, no matter where in the portion of Europe that was not occupied by the Soviets, who claimed to have himself been present at gas exterminations, I immediately went to him to get his testimony. And, each time the experience ended in the same way. With documentation in hand, I would ask him so many precise and detailed questions that soon it became apparent that he could not answer except by lying. Often his lies became so transparent, even to himself, that he ended his testimony by declaring that he had not seen it himself, but that one of his good friends, who had died in the camps and whose good faith he could not doubt, had told him about it. I covered thousands and thousands of kilometers throughout Europe in this way."

http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking2-13.shtml

[Anonymous No.19316074]

>>19315813
Irving is Jewish and a disinfo plant
Close friend of British Historian David Irving reveals his mother is Jewish:

ie. more deceit of the synagogue. A 'holocaust denier' stating that 2 million Jews were killed, makes people believe it was a true event, even if the numbers are disputed.

[Anonymous No.19316081]

>>19316074
Source; https://www.jf-archiv.de/archiv05/200508021809.htm

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19316103]

>>19316034
>in that the official narrative of him being an agent tasked with organising a pogrom on Socialist/slavic/jewish/gypsy Europe, is well buried.

[Anonymous No.19316130]

>>19316103
In WW2, 50 million mostly white Europeans perished, and Judah only became stronger. In no way can you argue that there was a net benefit of the second world war for Europeans, nor a net loss for Jews.
"It was ONLY these 3 movts-Communism, Zionism, & World Govt that profited from the suffering & destruction of WW2. The Western Powers helped the World Revolution to entrench itself deep in Europe."

https://controversyofzion.info/Summary_eng.htm

[Anonymous No.19316155]

>>19316130
But that's only because they lost you fucking retard. This is some extremely and esoteric high level jewish disinformation.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19316190]

>>19316130
Jews are also Europeans. No, eliminating the socialist factions weakened Europe to capitalist excesses. It wasn’t Stalin threatening to invade Europe. Influence yes, not invade.
Ah, but who knows what we would have if the socialists had nipped the fascists stooges before they grew

[Anonymous No.19316213]

>>19316190
You should read the book butters, you might actually learn something

[Anonymous No.19316221]

>>19316190
>USSR
>socialist faction
from the Marxist perspective hitler was a progressive force.

[Anonymous No.19316276]

You dont even really have to go out of your way to lie about him these days, most people simply actively chose to be ignorant. nothing in the book is some "greatest story never told" tier alternative-history, its all just basic meticulously sourced facts that explore who he was and what national socialism was. the problem is people dont want to know, they actively want to remain ignorant because they've built up too much using ignorance as a foundation. they're deep in the cost sunk fallacy.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.19316293]

>>19316221
I am referring to the state socialists as much as the libertarian socialists, making no particular cause with statists. But shove your revisionism cappy.

>>19316213
Oh sure.

[Anonymous No.19316300]

>>19315763
>most lied about man of the last century?
obviously. the man was the hero we needed by the powers at be couldn't let him break off the shackles of oppression.

[Anonymous No.19316316]

>>19316293
You are not butters and USSR wasn't any form of socialism full stop. It was state monopoly capitalism.

[Anonymous No.19316336]

>>19315763
Haven't read that, but yes he's the greatest man in recorded history as well as a spiritual paragon in the company of Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, et al, so of course he has to be the subject of lies.

[Anonymous No.19316362]

>>19315914
>TIK told me not to trust Irving.
He is right look up the libel case or read the book “lying about Hitler” if you want to see how bad of a historian he is.

The best value he had as a historian was in collecting material - some of it new, however it ends there as he cherrypicked extensively and in a few cases falsified matters by mixing up public records with parts of his own beliefs.

[Anonymous No.19316430]

[Anonymous No.19316505]

>>19316430
>nazis to march
except those "nazis" are a bunch of white identitarians and your pic is an out of touch boomer.

[Anonymous No.19316880]

>Book makes no mention of the attack sans declaration on Poland by soldiers in disguise "Jabłonków incident"
>or the false flag attack again before any declaration of war
Gleiwitz incident
Really makes you think

>The historically maligned leader of National Socialist Germany interpreted the duty of government as to foster, never restrict, the creative energy of a nation and to expedite its progress
Oh yeah that's why he was so ashamed of his colleagues unearthing artefacts dating the barbaric days of the germans of which he was so ashamed, also the regime of the book burning and censoring of music if considered "cultural Bolshevism" and other pointless neologisms like "judenletter".
What a cunt.

[Anonymous No.19317002]

>>19316880
Which book?

[Anonymous No.19317018]

>>19315763
Yes and no.
Hitler, the real Hitler, still wasn't any type of man Id want to follow. But, the myth that the Jews were innocent victims in Germany who never did anything to earn the resentment that lead to their persecution, is indeed a myth.
When you look more into it, if youre not a complete retard, the conclusion to draw is simply that things were more complicated back then than "Nazis bad" or "Jews bad." Its a clash of two different civilizational attitudes who have a complex history that dates back to the Greeks and the Roman empire.
Hitler was basically a man trying to defend his people and his home from a group who really did sort of hate them and seek to undermine them. But, he was also a pretty fucked up guy, and his vision for Germany, and the world, wasnt necessarily innocent.

Holocaust probably didnt happen tho lol straight up.

[Anonymous No.19317019]

>>19316034
schizo

[Anonymous No.19317029]

>>19317018
What did the jews do that made hitler hate him?
What was Hitler's vision for the world?

[Anonymous No.19317051]

>>19317029
The Jews more or less orchestrated Weimar, and the culture that immediately preceded Weimar. Go read up on that, it speaks for itself. If you cant get why that would piss a lot of people off, youre either blind, being obtuse, or simply hate the Germans.
As for Hitler's vision for the world: I drew the conclusion that while he did not truly wish to "exterminate the Jews," he did want to basically create a new Roman style Imperium, complete with a racial hierarchy, and slaves.

[Anonymous No.19317066]

>>19315766
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.19317069]

>>19317029
on top of generally profiteering off of degeneracy, they orchestrated an attempted communist revolution near the end of ww1

[Anonymous No.19317080]

>>19317069
>on top of generally profiteering off of degeneracy, they orchestrated an >attempted communist revolution near the end of ww1
This is proof that the Jews are not a monolith.
How much porn was sold in the USSR?

[Anonymous No.19317085]

>>19315763
Yes. /pol/tards constantly post about how he dindunuthing while he personally backstabbed fellow axis. He sold Finland to the dogs and everyone chooses to forget that.

[Anonymous No.19317090]

>>19317085
Thats because nobody cares about gay ass Finland, Jorvig. Cry about it forever.

[Anonymous No.19317092]

>>19317051
>he did want to basically create a new Roman style Imperium, complete with a racial hierarchy, and slaves.
Doubt it
>THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS CLASSES: THEY CANNOT BE. Class means caste and caste means race. If there are castes in India, well and good; there it is possible, for there there were formerly Aryans and dark aborigines. So it was in Egypt and in Rome. But with us in Germany where everyone who is a German at all has the same blood, has the same eyes, and speaks the same language, here there can be no class, here there can be only a single people and beyond that nothing else.

[Anonymous No.19317098]

>>19317085
>Yes. /pol/tards constantly post about how he dindunuthing while he personally backstabbed fellow axis. He sold Finland to the dogs and everyone chooses to forget that.
You guys didn't invade russia, he is not at fault for it. You were literally on the edge of Leningrad.

[Anonymous No.19317103]

>>19317051
>The Jews more or less orchestrated Weimar,
Weimar wasn't even that bad.
Not from my perspective anyway.

As a protestant German coming home from a war, maybe...

[Anonymous No.19317116]

>>19317103
yea i imagine it would be pretty sweet if you're a transgender \child molesting jew sympathizer

[Anonymous No.19317125]

>>19317090
As if the eternal g*rmans did any better, half of your ancestors are now slavic and you weren't even a real country for half a century
>>19317098
Even if the army had resources for such operation it was clear that germans were going to lose the war.

[Anonymous No.19317136]

>>19317092
Yeah bro he was trying to build a globalized racial caste system with Aryans at the head
Keep up bro

[Anonymous No.19317204]

>>19317116
>yea i imagine it would be pretty sweet if you're a transgender \child molesting jew sympathizer
It was no different than New York in the 20s. Trannies are an overstatement and pedophilia didn't exist back then.
>>19317136
He was pretry anti-colonialism from what I saw. He didn't want to see darkies around him. Why would he want slaves? He criticized america for this very thing

[Anonymous No.19317247]

>>19317204
>pedophilia didn't exist back then.
way to out yourself, subhuman.

[Anonymous No.19317273]

>>19317247
>way to out yourself
By telling the truth?

[Anonymous No.19317638]

>>19317204
>It was no different than New York in the 20s
Was it really? Weimar sounds pretty fun then.

Can someone tell me if it was really bad or not?

[Anonymous No.19317667]

>>19316059
Why would I trust that guy

[Anonymous No.19317673]

>>19317273
>this graph proves no one ever molested children before 1920!
are you retarded? why dont you cut to the chase and get to the part where you do something along the lines of claiming it was normal to molest children until evil femanazis or whatever stopped your fun. yes, you've outed yourself.

[Anonymous No.19317717]

>>19317673
It's not socially acceptable to 'molest' anyone. It's not normal making a bigger stinker over the fact that the victims were children as oppose to adults and making a false morality to persecute people who get boners from little girls.

You should look up the child rape epidemic in vienna. This was in the late 19th century.

[Anonymous No.19317854]

>>19317717
kek yea this is precisely how i expected you to respond. do us all a favor and kill yourself

[Anonymous No.19317874]

>>19317854
And?
I'm still correct.
Your morality aligns with the rabble. Good for you.

[Anonymous No.19317884]

>>19317273
Using this graph as evidence for your claim is outright absurd

[Anonymous No.19317897]

>>19317638
Just go look shit up from that period.
It wasnt "NYC in the 20s." The anon who said that is probably a child molester.

[Anonymous No.19317904]

>>19317874
lol do you seriously think you're going to make me feel ashamed because im not a would be child molester like yourself?

[Anonymous No.19317928]

>>19317884
I said pedophilia did not exist as a concept until very recently. That graph is evidence of that.
>>19317904
You were spawned by would-be child molestors you fool. Fetishizing youth is part of being a man.

[Anonymous No.19317941]

>>19315839
>Reformed German economy from above %30 unemployment to below %5 in 5 years
>Short term GDP growth that even surpassed the united states and england.
>Re-armed nation and took on the entire combined powers of the rest of the world
>ardently named the Jew and global finance as the true enemy of the proletariat.

idk, doesnt seem entirely retarded desu

[Anonymous No.19317953]

>>19317928
yes yes whatever you say. like I said, nice job outing yourself kike

[Anonymous No.19317970]

>>19317928
If you touch a child anywhere on Earth and are caught doing it or gloat about doing it, you will be met with violence.

[Anonymous No.19317973]

>>19317953
>if you don't accept my feminist constructed morality from 100 years ago you're a kike!
It should be illegal for people like you to be literate
>>19317970
Lol ok American

[Anonymous No.19317979]

>>19317973
America, or anywhere else. I wont interrupt your cringe LARP on 4chan, feel free to continue. Just thought Id briefly cut past the bullshit to remind you that if you ever decide to take it off 4chan, youll be met with violence, if not killed. Now feel free to keep going, after that has been made clear to everyone in the thread.

[Anonymous No.19317988]

>>19317979
>America, or anywhere else
False. One look at age of consent laws worldwide disproves this ridiculous notion. You decadent country imprisons men with normal healthy sexuality. Please, kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.19317995]

>>19317988
Feel free to prove your theory, anytime you wish. Go get sexual with someone else's child, anywhere on Earth. Let me know how it goes.

[Anonymous No.19318000]

>>19317995
Want me to record it too so yet more material to fap to? Glownigger

[Anonymous No.19318003]

>>19317973
i think we've come full circle to my original post, of course you disagree with hitler and think the wiemar republic was cool, youre a child molester who wants to rape kids, thats the obvious opinion for someone like yourself to have on these matters

[Anonymous No.19318016]

>>19318000
Sure, go ahead and record it, Mr. Balls for Breakfast. Record yourself trying to have sex with someone else's child, as well as the fallout, then post it publicly. I would actually rather enjoy seeing that.

Even you know that its all fantasy. Sincere advice? Smarten the fuck up and be a man before you get hurt someday.

[Anonymous No.19318024]

>>19318003
By your logic all of human history was bad because it's filled with 'child rapists', go denounce your entire bloodline.

Spare me the moralisms.

[Anonymous No.19318031]

>>19318016
>waaaaaaaaaaaaah the thought of someone being sexually attracted to a child hurts my feefees
>society should shame you!!!
You are like a woman.

[Anonymous No.19318048]

>>19318031
Spoken like a true coward. Have fun LARPing, bud. Thats all you will ever do.

[Anonymous No.19318081]

>>19317941
>Short term GDP growth that even surpassed the united states and england.

If this growth was based on borrowing unsustainably huge amounts of money to invest intrinsically unprofitable and unsustainable ventures would you consider that wise spending?

[Anonymous No.19318083]

>>19318048
>let me burn you at the stake, coward!
Yawn

[Anonymous No.19318086]

>>19318024
well at the very least you've managed to prove to me that my 6th sense for greasy subhumans is true. i love/hate how accurately I called it lmao.

[Anonymous No.19318090]

>>19318086
Yes it must be nice having the thought of pedophiles living rent free in your head

[Anonymous No.19318108]

>>19318090
i hope you are this transparent IRL lmao

[Anonymous No.19318134]

>>19318108
As if public approval is a virtue.
Go back to where you came from.

[Anonymous No.19318159]

>>19318134
sure but i dont think raping kids is a virtue either

[Anonymous No.19318169]

>>19318159
>raping kids
Stop with this ipso facto bullshit, and stop replying to me.

[Anonymous No.19318196]

>>19318169
stop advocating for diddling children, kike

[Anonymous No.19318220]

>>19318196
How do you cope with the fact that men have been, 'raping children' for all of human history up until the early 20th century and now it's wrong all of the sudden because some feminists caused a stinker about it and you personally don't like it.
The Athenians and the Romans were evil kikes I suppose?

[Anonymous No.19318256]

>>19318220
>some romans molested children so that makes pedophilia good!
oh good hes a romaboo and a pedophile. yea bro your logic makes perfect sense, how could anyone do anything wrong if they exist within the confines of a nation you heavily romanticize and worship. i dont know if you noticed but obscene decadence is exactly what delivered to the roman empire precisely what they deserved

[Anonymous No.19318290]

>>19316130
out of 50 ,30 million were soviets , only 5 million German casualties ,poland 6 million ,itlay less than a million, UK 0.5 million , US 0.5 million . Tell me how does western Europe which nazis lap was white gets weakened ?

[Anonymous No.19318298]

>>19316130
>the bad guys won the war so the bad guys came out on top!
thrilling analysis

[Anonymous No.19318303]

>>19318256
>the roman empire collapsed because they diddled lolis
Firs of all, I'm no romaboo, second I mentioned Athens as well as the ENTIRETY OF HUMAN HISTORY up until the last century.
Why are you only taking one part of what I said and ignoring the rest, and then making a non argument alluding to degeneracy implying it was the loli fucking which was degenerate when it's only something YOU dislike.

The United states is the most degenerate empire in human history. Homosexuality is literally celebrated as a virtue. The state imprisons men who have sex with 15 year olds and the people frequently go into hysterclics over 'pedophilia' . Food for thought.

Anyway, I'm going to stop replying to you now because it's clear from your posts you are a subhuman who deserves to be enslaved.

[Anonymous No.19318326]

>>19318297
because my point applies to everything you said you fucking mongoloid freak, are you illiterate too? "people molested kids in the past" does not automatically mean "its totally cool for me to rape kids haha"

thank you for reinforcing all of my preconceived notions about subhumans such as yourself. get help before you destroy some poor kids life you piece of trash

[Anonymous No.19318344]

>>19318326
>it's rape because I say it's rape
You deserve to be executed.

[Anonymous No.19318352]

>>19318220
The same way I cope with knowing that my ancestors were also murderers, cannibals, wife-beaters, philanderers, rapists and pillagers, beastiality participants and mercenaries.

By recognizing that man is an animal who has lifted himself up out of the goo principally by using his capacity for RESTRAINT. You dont get it, smart guy. You think youre operating off of some sagist wisdom by telling everyone how we are hard wired to like them young. Except, everyone else gets that, we just have and practice restraint, because we are men, and not animals. You, on the other hand, are not only an idiot, but also nothing more than an animal; most assuredly, not a man.

You say these things in theory, and in practice, you stay in the fucking house. Why is that? Because even (you) arent that stupid. Shut the fuck up, pedophile animal.

[Anonymous No.19318358]

>>19317019
seethe kike

[Anonymous No.19318362]

>>19318344
lmao I have no qualms whatsoever wearing such an accusation, coming from a child molester, as a badge of honor. its an ironic one since you're the one whos probably going to die face down on a prison floor after your compromised VPN fails to hide your identity and everyone finds out what youre in for

[Anonymous No.19318370]

>>19318352
See >>19318344
>>19318362
Great.

[Anonymous No.19318379]

>>19318370
I already saw it. Youre a pathetic excuse for a man. Theres nothing more to say about it. Stay inside or face risk.

[Anonymous No.19318400]

>>19318352
>You think youre operating off of some sagist wisdom by telling everyone how we are hard wired to like them young. Except, everyone else gets that, we just have and practice restraint
>i am a pedophile, we all are—we are just docile and restrained
Slave morality the post. The absolute state. What a debased 'man' you are. If I am an animal, you are a subhuman. You are much lower than I. And you have political rights too, and have the gall to call me decadent. What filth.
>>19318379
>Stay inside or face risk.

[Anonymous No.19318411]

>>19318400
Didnt read this

[Anonymous No.19318413]

>>19318344
you've clearly never actually interacted with a child, thank god, or else you would understand how fucked up it is to do something like that to them. Its fucking pathetic how hard you try to frame destroying a childs innocence as some sort of totally loving and completely innocent relationship in order to justify your deranged coomer mindset, and i love how youre so much of a fucking pseud you think throwing around a few nietzsche quotes will somehow further justify it. also you keep throwing around numbers like "omg america arrests men for sex with 15 year olds" while posting pictures of prepubescent children you clearly want to molest as if citing an older age group will make you more innocent.

[Anonymous No.19318429]

>>19318411
You're hardly literate anyway.
>>19318413
>the innocence of the childerinos
>a sexually curious child is not innocent
>children are not sexual
Yawn. I'm going to bed.

[Anonymous No.19318444]

>>19318429
like i said you have clearly never actually interacted with a child, thank god, thank you for reminding me that there is genuine evil in this world

[Anonymous No.19318463]

>>19318444
>thank you for reminding me that there is genuine evil in this world

[Anonymous No.19318474]

>>19318463
once again i find it genuinely insane that you think you're going to make me feel bad for not being a child molester

[Anonymous No.19318478]

>>19318474
I'm not trying to make you feel bad. I'm trying to tell you you're a faggot.

Stop replying to me.

[Anonymous No.19318483]

>>19318429
KEKEKEKEKEKEK this thread just got a million times better because of the retarded pedophile joining.

he literally pulled the heckerino meme on us which is the equivalent of a murderer defending himself by saying this:

OH NO DONT HECKING KILL HIMM!!!!!! HE LIKE HAS LIKE RIGHTS N STUFF OMG STOP DISMEMBERING HIM AND HECKING HIS DEAD BODY THATS LITERALLY A CHUD MOMENT OMG!!!!!

This guy probably cried when the Nazis burned down the library of Alexandria of kiddie rape fetish fanfictions

[Anonymous No.19318487]

>>19318326
>people molested kids in the past" does not automatically mean "its totally cool for me to rape kids haha"
How old was helen of troy retard

[Anonymous No.19318488]

>>19318478
oh no the literal child rapist called me a faggot! how will i ever recover. I guess i should bend the knee or else he might quote nietzsche and tip his fedora at me again! lmao

[Anonymous No.19318514]

>>19318487
>what do you mean im under arrest for molesting a 10 year old and fucking them up for life, haven't you read the heckin illiad1?!?!?

[Anonymous No.19318568]

>>19317051
There were many prominent Jews that'd collected around Weimar, but such bourgeois Jews in Western European were generally quite assimilated and, while not very Aryan, certainly weren't themselves very "Jewish." They forbid their children from speaking Yiddish, openly disdained all the yiddish-speaking rabble from the ghetto and shtetl, and were aloof or virulently opposed to the Jewish political movements of the time which tried to forward a militant Jewish identity and were opposed to assimilation, like the Bund or the Zionists. They wanted to enter the polite society which belonged to the moneyed and intellectual strata. Of course, that strata was overwhelmingly left-liberal and very much of the Weimar Republic. Siegfried Kracauer expounds well on that point.

"The Jews more or less orchestrated Weimar" is a spurious statement considering the Jews had an even greater presence in factions which wanted to bring down the Weimar Republic. Many of the most notable Communist leaders during the November Revolution, whose militants engaged in pitched battles with supporters of the Weimar Republic, were Jews. The leader of the Spartacist Uprising, who tried to destroy Weimar almost immediately after it'd been proclaimed and who denounced it as an illegitimate government, was a Jewess. Both the head of the 'Bavarian People's State' and the two later heads of the 'Bavarian Soviet Republic' were Jews that resisted the SPD government in Berlin. Jews had a great presence in the KPD, and even after the March Action the KPD can't be interpreted as taking a conciliatory view toward the republic. In Bavaria, the Jews were resented more for their alleged sympathies with Bolshevism than with the Weimar Republic, and in other parts resented just as much for their Bolshevism.

Upon hearing that the Weimar Government had proclaimed "order [to] prevail in Berlin," it'd been the Jewess whom so many anti-left militants considered a martyr that'd remarked their order was "built on sand."

The Weimar Republic was orchestrated through a compromise between the Social-Democratic Party and the Junkers, with the paramilitaries attendant to that compromise, at least for what time was needed to suppress the bolshevists. A great number of prominent Jews supported the Social-Democratic Party, but no more than German gentiles did, and no more than what Jews supported the anti-republican camps.

[Anonymous No.19318638]

>>19315763
He obviously wasn't a cartoonish supervillain like he's depicted, but he's still obviously a mass murderer, it's likely you'll get a more balanced account in about 50 years as the Holocaust slips from living and then cultural memory.
>>19317941
>ardently named the Jew and global finance as the true enemy of the proletariat.
Then why kill tens of millions of Europeans to kick down some shitty Jewish villages in Ukraine while letting the Rothschilds leave with their riches?

[Anonymous No.19318659]

>>19318638
he tried to get ALL of the jews out of the country voluntarily, mate, the Rothschilds simply had the means and the foresight to do so, and the war didnt start because "he wanted to kick down some shitty villages in ukraine" and i find it genuinely insane how you can be so thoroughly conditioned to believe something so asinine, especially after trying to play it cool and claim you dont think he was a cartoon villain

[Anonymous No.19318661]

>>19317090
>Thats because nobody cares about gay ass Finland, Jorvig. Cry about it forever.
It's always adorable to me when nationalists start shitting on their one-time allies. How could people like this possibly lose a global war? It's a total mystery.

>>19318303
>The state imprisons men who have sex with 15 year olds and the people frequently go into hysterclics over 'pedophilia' . Food for thought.
And heeeeere come the pedophiles!

[Anonymous No.19318667]

>>19318413
Don't forget.

[Anonymous No.19318673]

>>19318667
>creepy crawlies
do i even want to know?

[Anonymous No.19318937]

>>19318667
wtf i love authleft now???

[Anonymous No.19319254]

>>19318568
Ok, so some Jews were supporting Weimar, while others were trying to institute communism.
Point still stands. Its part of why Hitler rose to power.

[Anonymous No.19319283]

>>19317941
>implying that growth is hard in a totalitarian state when you just work people to death
>implying that Jewish people are literally the only greedy people on the planet, and that the problem with capitalism isn't just plain old mindless greed

This is why no one takes Nazis seriously

[Anonymous No.19319291]

>>19315914
He wanted east slavic peasants to be obedient workers and slowly phase them out by encouraging contraception amongst them and discouraging it in the German settlers of Ukraine. Source is the legit passages of table talk.

As for Slavs in general, depends on the nation. He was very much fond of Croats for example.

[Anonymous No.19319301]

>>19319283
but virtually all of the growth came from labour by regular workers who saw a pretty good standard for workplace benefits and regulations, social programs etc. ESPECIALLY for the 30s, and hitler and national socialism were HIGHLY critical of the way greed and capitalism interacted to the point that their entire currency system was changed to be based off of actually producing something real and tangible for the nation utilizing the countries working class instead of just creating meme money out of thin air based on nothing

i will never be not amazed at just how thoroughly indoctrinated people are about the topic of national socialism to the point of being so completely and utterly arrogant about something they literally know NOTHING about, like yourself

[Anonymous No.19319317]

>>19317667
Why wouldn't you.

[Anonymous No.19319365]

>>19315763
>Is Hitler really the most lied about man of the last century?
I don't know about "the most lied about", but he's certainly up there. Come on, haven't you noticed that he's always depicted as a 100% evil Disney villain? Even supposedly "serious" sources interpret everything he did in the worst possible way (even when it absolutely doesn't make sense). Dunkirk? He let the brits escape because he was too dumb to realize he had them in his grasp. Peace offerings? He never made like a dozen from 1939 to 1941, which Churchill rejected. No, never happened. His final sacrifice of staying in Berlin, even though he could've escaped, just like other world leaders had escaped abroad (like Churchill in Canada)? Somehow that makes him cowardly.
If the nigga had solved world hunger, people would have accused him of cheaping out on the dessert.

It's mindboggling how biased historians are about him. Guess they're afraid of being called nazi sympathizers if they show a bit of objectivity. We don't even reserve this kind of treatment to actual psychos like Idi Amin.

[Anonymous No.19319372]

>>19315914
>genocide slavs
What? No, he considered them inferior to germans in intellect and character, and so planned to use them as farmers in his newly conquered eastern territories. He wanted to give them a very basic level of education and then put them to work once they were 13-15. Still pretty fucking bad, but not genocide.

[Anonymous No.19319379]

>>19316362
>the libel case
Ah yes, like that case where a holocaust revisionist offered a money prize to anyone who could prove the Holocaust actually happened, and a court decided that "commonly accepted events don't need evidence because everyone know they're true" and ruled against him, forcing him to pay the prize.

Yes, trials can absolutely be trusted.

[Anonymous No.19319390]

>>19318568
Ah yes, the usual "low-level jews weren't doing anything wrong so we should ignore that the top-level jews were straight up orchestrating the careful decomposition of German society and economy" argument.
Let's completely forget that the vast majority of Germany's financial institutions, media, universities etc. were owned or controlled by jews. It's irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.19319396]

>>19319365
you i know im not saying everyone needs to worship hitler and become a whereaboo or whatever, but holy hell can we PLEASE get some actual literary or generally artistic content that actually explores the human experience and national socialism in a nuanced way that doesn't read like wartime propaganda. god, what I would give for some actually good literature (or any form of media really).

[Anonymous No.19319403]

>>19319283
>a totalitarian state when you just work people to death
This kind of retarded propaganda is too stupid even for a commie mongoloid. There's no way you're serious.
Germany's "economic miracle", as it was called at the time, happened between 1933 and 1938. In those years, Hitler was the first one in Europe to introduce stuff like paid vacations, break rooms, minimum health standards for the workplace, etc.
"Work people to death"? What a fucking imbecilic thing to say. This is why everyone considers you leftists trisomic little mongoloids with shit for brains.

[Anonymous No.19319411]

>>19319301
He's a complete fucking idiot, a kike, or a commie shill, no other options. Only somebody like that could say that germans in the 30s were "worked to death". (That's what happened in Soviet Russia and even more in Maoist China, hence their mass deaths of tens of millions of civilians just left to starve.)

[Anonymous No.19319415]

>>19315839
Found the retard

[Anonymous No.19319417]

>>19319379
No it was a reference to the lipstadt case where Irving sued for libel when that author accused him of being a Holocaust denier and falsifier, as well as a bigot, and wrote that manipulated and distorted real documents.

In that case despite the burden of evidence being against them they won by demonstrating that the statement was justified.

Irving attempted to use the courts to silence a critic and scored a career ending own goal

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_v_Penguin_Books_Ltd

[Anonymous No.19319427]

>>19319396
>actually explores the human experience and national socialism in a nuanced way
Come on, dude, you can't be that naive. Hitler and nazism MUST be depicted only as an Evil Empire with zero redeeming qualities. Exploring nuance would mean mentioning not only the bad but also THE GOOD about nazism, which in the modern zeitgeist would make you a Hitler sympathizer, just a hidden nazi trying to trick people into thinking that Hitler wasn't so bad after all. So anyone doing the nuance thing must be exposed as a nazi, insulted by a herd of kvetching jews and white lefties, and censored. And in some countries, prosecuted.

That's how it works in the current West. "Ultra-biased" doesn't even begin to describe hystorical academia. Maybe we'll get an objective account of nazism 200 years from now. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.19319436]

>>19315839
Reddit is the other way, you got lost on your way to the dildo store.

>>19319417
>demonstrating that the statement was justified.
They did no such thing. They "won" because the judges always side against anyone who even faintly smells of holocaust revisionism. The bias is laughably obvious, and only a dishonest shill would deny it.

[Anonymous No.19319442]

>>19315763
Watch "THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD" if you want to know exactly how much Hitler has been vilified and lied about.

You can find it online for free. Mindblowing documentary.

[Anonymous No.19319448]

>>19319436
>They did no such thing. They "won" because the judges always side against anyone who even faintly smells of holocaust revisionism. The bias is laughably obvious, and only a dishonest shill would deny it.

There was only one judge in that case, and he even compliment Irving at times. Which examples in that case demonstrated bias getting in the way of the evidence and arguments presented?

[Anonymous No.19319449]

>>19319442
>THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD
Kek. A rapper album pops uo if you google that. The full title is "Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told".

[Anonymous No.19319455]

>>19319448
Which evidence demonstrated that Irving lied and manipulated evidence to make the readers of his books reach false conclusions?

[Anonymous No.19319461]

>>19319448
>Which examples in that case demonstrated bias getting in the way of the evidence and arguments presented?
The fact that there was zero reason to conclude that Irving lied and yet that was still the verdict.

If you knew anything about WW2 you'd know that Irving's view that Hitler was not to blame for the war and that the true culprits were the brits and the americans is supported by such a mountain of evidence that not even regular historians try to deny it (they simply avoid speaking about it). Irving's interpretation is obviously correct, it's not even a question. But the guardians of the orthodoxy don't let details such as truth and evidence hinder them in their propaganda efforts. They will keep omitting every detail that disproves them and magnifying/misinterpreting or straight up making shit up to push the narrative they prefer.
There is no historical analysys when it comes to Hitler, only propaganda.

[Anonymous No.19319473]

>>19319461
The case is available online for free so you can grab an example from it. You talk about how the judge in that case let bias get in the way of the facts yet you don’t seem to have any examples of that outside of the verdict not agreeing with your views.

[Anonymous No.19319480]

>>19319317
Because I'm not biased in favor of JEWS BAD.

[Anonymous No.19319491]

>>19316130
>/pol/ fell into the white genocide conspiracy theory so hard, they're now saying Nazi Germany itself is the one who started it

[Anonymous No.19319493]

>>19319291
yea but by applying mental gymnastics in the direction of "well, croats are not actually slavs but..."

[Anonymous No.19319504]

>>19316505
>those "nazis" are a bunch of white identitarians
>implying there's a difference

[Anonymous No.19319515]

>>19317090
>"hero" turns out to be a betrayer
>I-IT'S TOTALLY O-OKAY I-IT'S NOT LIKE A-ANYONE C-CARED ABOUT THEM A-ANYWAY
Nice cope.

[Anonymous No.19319524]

>>19317273
>>19317928
>we didn't use the word homosexuality before 20th century
>that must mean homosexuality didn't actually exist before 20th century
Do you understand how crazy you sound? No, of course not, why am I even asking that? If you did, you wouldn't have said that.

[Anonymous No.19319536]

>>19317988
>implying it's socially acceptable just because it's legal
Come on, then. Come into Europe and have sex with a bunch of 15-year-old girls. Let's see how long you make it until an angry father or a brother assaults you in a dark street and caves your face in with a steel pipe.

[Anonymous No.19319546]

>>19318344
>it's rape because I say it's rape
Yes, anon, that's how the definition of rape works. If you're accusing someone of rape, you're saying you didn't consent to sex, which makes the other person legally guilty.

[Anonymous No.19319553]

>>19318487
>How old was helen of troy retard
Completely unimportant.

[Anonymous No.19319558]

>>19318667
>tummy/abs fetish is not present

[Anonymous No.19319569]

>>19315763

This book is excellent and presents a more human portrait of Adolph H. I personally could relate to many of the stories about his life.

>On the train ride back to Munich, Der Fuhrer became agitated that a jew sitting next to him had filled out more of the Der Speigel crossword puzzle than he had. After throwing the "rigged" puzzle into a Munich Station trash can, Der Fuhrer returned to his apartments and violently sodomized a dachshund named Tango killing the animal. Der Furher then ordered that all local members of the Nazi party attend the dog's funeral at a park wherein he eulogized the dog and wept openly for three hours.

[Anonymous No.19319592]

>>19315763
why are white people obsessed with losers?
he lost, he killed more white people than kikes and yet you worship him?

throw yourself into the gutter

[Anonymous No.19319605]

>>19319365
>Somehow that makes him cowardly.
Nah, he gets portrayed as "insane" because he wanted to go down with the ship he sculpted. He gets called cowardly though for commanding his armies to fight to the death, because apparently it's more honourable to surrender than fight like men (at least when you're "the bad guys").

[Anonymous No.19319608]

>>19319592
t. colonised and remade by white people in our image
now worship us, retard.

[Anonymous No.19319629]

>>19319365

Imagine having a brain that just buzzes with this crap.

[Anonymous No.19319631]

>>19319546
>Yes, anon, that's how the definition of rape works
No it doesn't retard

[Anonymous No.19319634]

>>19319629
Imagine being dumb enough to believe capitalist/Allied propaganda.

[Anonymous No.19319635]

>>19319524
>Do you understand how crazy you sound? No, of course not, why am I even asking that? If you did, you wouldn't have said that.
Pederasts always existed as a concept while pedophiles have not, retard.

[Anonymous No.19319642]

>>19319536
>Come on, then. Come into Europe and have sex with a bunch of 15-year-old girls. Let's see how long you make it until an angry father or a brother assaults you in a dark street and caves your face in with a steel pipe.
Definitely wouldn't happen in a place like Germany or France, lol. Swedish men would practically give up their daughters for you too if you're a migrant.

[Anonymous No.19319662]

>>19318303

If you want to fuck prebuscent children you're a pidor retard dude I'm sorry. The normies and the feminazis just happen to be right about this one. Whenever there is a custom of a young girl marrying an adult man the relationship is not sexual until at least she can bleed. And hopefully not until her body is developed well enough to give birth without likely dying from it

[Anonymous No.19319676]

>>19319662
>Whenever there is a custom of a young girl marrying an adult man the relationship is not sexual
No evidence for this
>until at least she can bleed.
The average age for this is 12

You are just projecting your own feelings onto history.

[Anonymous No.19319683]

>>19319403
Hitler liqiudated people's assets down to their literal hair. If they could work, they were worked to death.

[Anonymous No.19319689]

>>19319634

POUR IT INTO ME!

[Anonymous No.19319701]

>>19319683
This is on concentration camps.
Also to artificially mess with the unemployment numbers they ignored women.
Its also not a secret they exploited their territories to help their economy.

[Anonymous No.19319705]

>>19319701
>Also to artificially mess with the unemployment numbers they ignored women.
No they didn't nazi germany employed many women

[Anonymous No.19319780]

>fucking lolis was always bad!!!
>it was never socially acceptable, evar!!!!!

[Anonymous No.19319799]

>>19319635
>implying pederastry isn't just pedophilia by another name
That's some nice copium right here.

>>19319642
>muh migrants
Opinion discarded.

[Anonymous No.19319811]

>>19319799
>Opinion discarded.
the fact that people think this about europeans is a danger to you, whether you recognise it or not. how you see yourself in this respect matters less than how others see you.
blame it on le /pol/, but all i have seen of diversity suggests their culture is /pol/ish and there is no social repercussions for thinking that way. if you want to know how muh migrants see you, ask a /pol/ack. most of them are diaspora anyway

[Anonymous No.19319861]

>>19319799
Pederastry is bad because it's on boys. Sexual attraction towards children who are girls was never seen as abnormal in history, period.
>muh migrants
Kek, deny reality then.

[Anonymous No.19319882]

>>19319861
>Sexual attraction towards children who are girls was never seen as abnormal in history, period.
in medieval europe the vast majority of marriages were between people we would consider of legal age. child marriages were contracted between children. anything else was regarded as irregular at best.
the whole world is neither the middle east

[Anonymous No.19319902]

>>19319882
>in medieval europe the vast majority of marriages were between people we would consider of legal age. child marriages were contracted between children.
Age of consent in England was set at 12, this being the age in which the wife can get married without the father's consent. She could still be married off younger if the father wanted to. Age of consent didn't exist among the continentals period.

Are you going to tell me Casanova didn't exist? Are you going to tell me serfs in medieval europe did not fuck their girls until it was when YOU thought it was acceptable? Give me a fucking break. You're completely full of shit.

I bet you also think stupid illiterate peasents never had sex in medieval europe until marriage? lmao.

What a joke

[Anonymous No.19319953]

>>19319882
>child marriages were contracted between children
LMAOOOOOOOOOO. RETARD.

[Anonymous No.19319993]

>>19317941
Were is the part when you say this was done through money from Rotschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, Morgan, Astor, Onasis, Bush, Dupont?
Hitler, financed by: the bank of England, the american fed, IG farben (Rockefeller), Standard oil, AEG.

[Anonymous No.19320000]

>>19319902
>Are you going to tell me Casanova didn't exist? Are you going to tell me serfs in medieval europe did not fuck their girls until it was when YOU thought it was acceptable?
Does any of that make pedophilia acceptable?

[Anonymous No.19320005]

>>19319301
>i will never be not amazed at just how thoroughly indoctrinated people are about the topic of national socialism
Or maybe it's you who don't know that national "socialism" was financed by Rotschild and Rockefeller, and that Hitler was a MAJOR Zionist, through the Haavara agreement.
The aim was always a war retard. The point was always to destroy germany, who was a rival to the anglos.
You gone from the mainstream narrative, to an other fake narrative, and you think you know it all.

[Anonymous No.19320008]

>>19320005
If that's the case it's not even funny how over it already was by the 30s. Even the singular opposition was actually an op. Wew

[Anonymous No.19320013]

>>19317051
>he did want to basically create a new Roman style Imperium, complete with a racial hierarchy, and slaves.
A racial hierarchy, yet financed by anglo jews. Jesus, you people are not bright.

[Anonymous No.19320022]

>>19320008
>Even the singular opposition was actually an op.
Every institutionalized opposition, in every post industrial country, is always an op. Wake up.

[Anonymous No.19320024]

>>19320000
>Does any of that make pedophilia acceptable
No, what makes it acceptable is that lolis give me boners and you can't tell me what to do.

[Anonymous No.19320031]

Also reminder that Hitler made time magazine cover in 1933, and was proclaimed time magazine man of the year in 1938. It was always a great manipulation. Like covid today. Not different.

[Anonymous No.19320080]

>>19319403
>Hitler was the first one in Europe to introduce stuff like paid vacations, break rooms, minimum health standards for the workplace, etc.
Too bad than in less than 15 years, he destroyed germany forever. You people don't even give a fuck about this. The war could never have been won. Right from the start. Industrial capacity of germany was way behind america's potential, in 1939. It was not possible to win.

[Anonymous No.19320089]

>>19320080
You gotta admit he did pretty good tho.
He wasn't planning on going to war with America.

[Anonymous No.19320101]

>>19320031
do you think they did that because they thought he was such a swell guy

[Anonymous No.19320171]

>>19318081
>would you consider that wise spending?

You mean investing in public works such as the autobahn and centralizing production of consumer goods? Sure, I guess its not 'profitable' in the sense prostitution, child trafficking and rampant alchoholism was in weimar germany.

>>19318638
>Then why kill tens of millions of Europeans to kick down some shitty Jewish villages in Ukraine.

The war wasnt about the Jews, they already had an exodus before it started, im guessing around 100 000 died during the german campaign and through starvation in camps during the end of the war.

>>19319283
>implying that growth is hard in a totalitarian state when you just work people to death

This was all before the war even started so I have no idea what you're talking about. FDR also had a semi 'totalitarian' state when he pulled the US out of the depression using executive action.

[Anonymous No.19320669]

>>19315763
>Has anyone ever read this?
yes
>Is Hitler really the most lied about man of the last century?
not only that, but he ia the greatest man in history

[Anonymous No.19320677]

>>19320101
He was their agent. It's a trick to laugh at your face. Same happen today with the cover of time magazine,about events that are coming in the future. They even did this with Lavrenti Beria with a nice all seeing eye on the cover.

[Anonymous No.19320693]

>>19319480
that's due to a lack of historical and geopolitical education. literally just look around. there's a reason they've been continuously expelled and murdered for several thousand years. it's going to keep happening too.

[Anonymous No.19320700]

>>19315763
No but I have read Mein Kampf. Hitler is definitely the most lied about man in recent history. Several centuries from now he'll be considered the most important person of the century and will probably be loved by most. Mein Kampf will ensure that, it's too good of a hero tale.

[Anonymous No.19320701]

>>19319390

As I recall it, neither Friedrich Ebert nor Hjalmar Schanct nor any of these other characters Jews. The vast majority of Germany's institutions were controlled by German gentiles, with a great quantity of Jews in managerial and administrative positions. Neither were the Communist jews 'low-level' ones.

[Anonymous No.19320703]

>>19320089
The anglo plan was the WWII. In order to destroy germany, and prevent a german-russia alliance, forever. He made it happen. By the end of the war, american military bases, on german soil. Which are still there as of today. It was a great plan. And everybody bought it. The progressives, as well as the trad tards. For the former, he was the devil, for the latter, a hero. However, being good or bad was never the point. German destruction was.

[Anonymous No.19320709]

>>19319254

They would have been better off had the communists buried the republic then.

[Anonymous No.19320717]

>>19318638
>Then why kill tens of millions of Europeans to kick down some shitty Jewish villages in Ukraine while letting the Rothschilds leave with their riches?
if the reason you think the war was fought doesn't make sense, maybe instead of employing knee jerk reactions to people being skeptical of popular victor's accounts of war you should either diversify your research or not participate in discussing the subject.

[Anonymous No.19320724]

>>19319301

>does everything that any other 1930s populist strongman does, except ends up destroying his country later

[Anonymous No.19320730]

>>19320724
It was mostly the US, UK, and Russia that destroyed Germany. It's really weird where people put blame on things sometimes.

[Anonymous No.19320740]

>>19320730

Hitler didn't have to put Germany on a collision course with the West. Could've brought down Stalin if he didnt.

[Anonymous No.19320759]

>>19318659
Rothschild (Bank of England) was in league with Hitler. Right from the start. Bank of England sold the stolen Czechoslovakia central bank gold, stolen by the hitlerians.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2381587/How-Bank-England-helped-Nazis-sell-looted-gold.html
Rotschild never gave a fuck about middle social layer jews, and even stole some of their property, through swiss banks, when those middle social layer jews died in german labor camps.
Mainstream history is bullshit. But Hitlerian history, is not much better. Because Hitler was not the man you think he was.

[Anonymous No.19321003]

>>19320730
>It was mostly the US, UK,
They HAD to. To prevent a german-russia alliance in the future, which would have formed a superpower. So they (the anglo superclass) created and financed Hitler, made him stop at Dunkirk, and kamikaze against russia. Self destruction. Almost a century later, people still buy that Hitler was his own man, whether bad or good. The superclass pulled his strings. Right from the start, till the very end.

[Anonymous No.19321083]

>>19316034
based meds flusher

[Anonymous No.19321204]

>>19320703
The anglos were going to lose their global hegemony either way, they put their top dawg in liberalism (US) in the pitt against the anti liberal rising power in europe (Germany). Unsurprisingly, after allying with the USSR, they turned on them aswell. Most of the shit you hear about both germany and the USSR is straight up propaganda orchestrated by alphabet boys behind the scenes. Look up some commentaries during ww2 and the US still were worried about 'the hun' coming over and racemixing with american anglos.

[Anonymous No.19321238]

>>19321003
Also the destruction of Germany was well on its way, through westernized liberal democracy; the weimar republic. It makes literally zero sense Britain would prop up a guy like Hitler when Germany was well on its way to destruction, but I guess it had to be some top level conspiracy. Come on, you really think the brits, let alone any government at the time was capable of such espionage.

[Anonymous No.19321405]

>>19321238
>Come on, you really think the brits, let alone any government at the time was capable of such espionage.
You know the answer.
>Also the destruction of Germany was well on its way, through westernized liberal democracy; the weimar republic.
As i said, and i'll repeat it again. The point was not germany, per se, but a future german-russian alliance which would combine german superior engineering with russian enormous natural ressources. Such an alliance was, and still is, what prevent anglos from sleeping at night.
Germany was already weakened after WWI. However, it was still existing, was still a somehow sovereign nation. After WWII, Germany was, and still is, a military occupied nation. After joining (obviously through total duress), NATO in 1955, Germany wasn't anything anymore. Reminder, again, that there are currently still 11 american military bases, in germany. Yes. Eleven. It's still an occupied country.

[Anonymous No.19321424]

“Interessen-Gemeinschaft Farbenindustrie”, the main supplier of the German war machine, financed 45% of the election campaign of Hitler in 1930, and was under the control of Rockefeller “Standard oil”. Morgan, through “General Electric”, controlled the German radio and electrical industry via AEG and Siemens (up to 1933, 30% of the shares of AEG owned “General Electric”) through the Telecom company ITT — 40% of the telephone network in Germany.
In addition, they owned a 30% stake in the aircraft manufacturing company “Focke-Wulf”. “General Motors”, belonging to the DuPont family, established control over “Opel”. Henry Ford controlled 100% of the shares of “Volkswagen”. In 1926, with the participation of the Rockefeller Bank “Dillon, Reed & Co.” the second largest industrial monopoly in Germany after “I.G Farben” emerged — metallurgical concern “Vereinigte Stahlwerke” (Steel trust) Thyssen, Flick, Wolff, Feglera etc.
American cooperation with the German military-industrial complex was so intense and pervasive that by 1933 the key sectors of German industry and large banks such as Deutsche Bank, Dresdner Bank, Donat Bank etc were under the control of American financial capital.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/history-of-world-war-ii-nazi-germany-was-financed-by-the-federal-reserve-and-the-bank-of-england/5530318

[Anonymous No.19321580]

>>19320005
>>19320759
>pol schitzo sees financial giants taking up the most obvious investments imaginable, like throwing their money in to a country thats about to have its economy increase exponentially
>durrrr dat means dey literally controlled them hehe
>i KNOW IT ALL im REALLY RED PILLED

[Anonymous No.19321611]

>>19321580
>Super rich jews invest massively in Hitlerian germany
>Germany welcome those funds, and Hitler's campain literally financed by super-rich jews
>Muh germanic aryan race, independance, and superiority. Muh Race before Capitalism. But keep the superclass jewish money coming anyway.

[Anonymous No.19321639]

>>19321424
So in order to be a true nazi I have to denounce hitler, the man I idealized for so long? :'(

[Anonymous No.19321684]

>>19321639
We all did at some point. Whatever. Truth is more enjoyable than illusion.

[Anonymous No.19321685]

>>19321611
anon you haven't actually addressed anything I said. what possible reason would Germany have to spurn investments that were absolutely needed to help rapidly rearm the country and kick start some infrastructure projects? also i love how you bring up that he was a zionist as if its some sort of secret redpill that hitler was interested in working with jews to find a peaceful solution to the jewish question right from the start. the irony is that you think you're "above" the normal narrative regarding Hitler but your entire perception is coloured by the usual perception of Hitler, you're basically confused and experiencing cognitive dissonance with the narrative not lining up with real life and coming up with an asinine /pol/ tier idiotic rant to try and explain the discrepancy

[Anonymous No.19321750]

>>19321685
>your entire perception is coloured by the usual perception of Hitler,
I don't give a shit about Hitler. I was Hitlerian many years ago. But today, they are all pieces of shit for me. If it reassures you, i don't think Hitler is worse than Harry Truman. But what is the point about comparing two pieces of shit? That doesn't make any sense. In the end, these two individuals were on the same strings.
>what possible reason would Germany have to spurn investments that were absolutely needed to help rapidly rearm the country and kick start some infrastructure projects?
Germany didn't need to refuse such money. But WWII was planned long before it happened, and germany couldn't be destroyed if it didn't go to war. If allies straight out attacked and occupied indefinitely (like they did after 1945) germany in 1925, it would have caused an international public outcry, obviously. They had to be pumped, and crushed. It seems crazy, but that's probably what happened.

[Jesus on le Cross No.19321760]

>>19315763
Man of the year 1938.... Final boss a few years later...

Stalin 1939 AND 1942....

The US has no fucking clue what its doing when it comes to foreign leaders. Love then hate. Hate then love? Who care. Understand what the Fuhrer stands for then make your decision.

[Anonymous No.19321767]

>>19321750
>It seems crazy, but that's probably what happened.....because i said it is
simply epic bro i will totally take your word on that.

no one calls themselves "Hitlerian" by the way

[Anonymous No.19321787]

>>19321760
Im pretty sure they knew exactly what they were doing

[Anonymous No.19321795]

>>19321767
>no one calls themselves "Hitlerian" by the way
I call them Hitlerian. Because for me, they are not national socialist. It's retarded to call Hitler's germany national socialist, knowing their anglo superclass funding, including the bank of england, and the american fed, through LOANS.
Socialism is a petty ideology anyway, but they weren't even socialist, since Ernst Rohm got liquidated, as well as the SA.
I also don't call Hitler's germany nazi, since all the incels trad larpers will seethe, before there is even a debate.
So yes, Hitlerians, because it shows some respect to anons, instead of nazis, but not national socialist either, because, again, it was not socialism, if financed massively by anglo capital, through DEBT.

[Anonymous No.19321808]

>>19321760
>>19321787
Well, considering anglos were financing Hitler, but also massively Stalin, through loans, tanks, planes, oils, that makes sense that Stalin was chosen Times man of the year as well.
People need to understand, once and for all, that the anglos were financing both sides, and made money on both sides, through interest, and benefited from an eurasian continent split in two after the WWII: NATO on the west, USSR on the east, totally preventing a german-russian alliance, which would have threatened the anglos and overthrowed them in the end.

[Anonymous No.19321824]

>>19321795
kek well then, you seem thoroughly invested in this topic for someone who "doesn't care"

[Anonymous No.19321852]

>>19321824
Hitlerism is blocking you from reaching a superior level of understanding. That is obviously not to say go back to mainstream thinking.

[Anonymous No.19321870]

>>19321852
lmao your "superior level of understanding" is AT BEST, asuming you are even sincere, literally just you springing out because the mainstream perception doesn't make sense and you have to fill in the gaps with the most shallow conspiracy theories imaginable. you arent remotely as enlightened as you think you are. you throwing around "financial institutions and people with money invested in germany" as if its supposed to show Hitler being caught red handed at something bad is hilarious proof that your superior thought is just barely graduated from flat earth tier

[Anonymous No.19321899]

>>19321870
>>19321852

its astonishingly hilarious that these people turn to conspiracy theories when faced with facts about national socialism, when not long ago they discredited anything remotely conspiratorial.

[Anonymous No.19321974]

>>19321899
A German-russia strong, and real, alliance, would have been disastrous for the anglos. That's not a conspiracy, but a fact.
If it is not a conspiracy, then anglos are very lucky to have been allowed to OCCUPY germany indefinitely since 1945, and to split europa in half, western NATO? eastern USSR, preventing durably any kind of fusion between germany and russia.
Anglos really are lucky people. And they still are lucky today, the european union prevent an other German-russian alliance. No conspiracy in all of this. R-right?

[Anonymous No.19322001]

>>19321870
>literally just you springing out because the mainstream perception doesn't make sense and you have to fill in the gaps with the most shallow conspiracy theories imaginable.

I imagine the entire point of this new meme narrative is to take people who are waking up to the falsehood of the current wartime propaganda tier narrative we have now and re-direct them towards another false narrative to keep them "contained" and prevent "radicalization"

[Anonymous No.19322010]

>>19321974
No one said angles wanting a weaker Germany and soviet union is a conspiracy theory. way to expose yourself as being completely dishonest

[Anonymous No.19322019]

>>19317002
The one mentioned by OP

[Anonymous No.19322115]

>>19322010
Wanting a weaker Germany not a conspiracy, but, according to anons, pumping germany, through massive anglo money, then destroying them, after presenting him as the devil, is a conspiracy theory.
It's like your mind accept the little conspiracy (the weak germany conspiracy), but your mind reject the big one (the pumping then destroying, then military occupying until today).
Let it be clear. An indefinite occupation of Germany wouldn't have been able to occur, shouldn't germany have had a serious WWII. After being pumped, and having been a real threat to europa, at least to lesser countries, like Poland, and France, the indefinite military occupation of Germany was perceived as legit, on the international scene.
Let think about it. If it wasn't a conspiracy, it would have been a great conspiracy to deploy for the anglos. Truth is, the anglos were always under control. It doesn't take a genius, to evaluate the potential industrial production of a country, and to understand, that germany could NOT have won against the anglos, due to their inferior production capacity. Thus, the anglos weren't even at risk, by fomenting an artificial war, then wining it, play the hero at the end of the war, and OCCUPY germany indefinitely, thus preventing a german-russia alliance.

[Anonymous No.19322189]

>>19322115
lol are you retarded? there wouldn't need to be an occupation, they would have been virtually permanently crippled and put on a leash held by anglos even worse than they are now via the treaty of Versailles. its not a matter of "my mind accepting" anything, its a matter of your whole narrative being a fucking joke full of holes that is clearly meant to steer people away from becoming radicalized

[Anonymous No.19322275]

>>19322189
>they would have been virtually permanently crippled and put on a leash held by anglos even worse than they are now
How can it be? Today, Germany is fully into NATO, NATO, which by the way has been rendered possible by the WWII, as well as having 11 AMERICAN bases on german soil. No treaty of Versailles anihilate definitively germany like that. Even with the treaty of Versailles, and weimar republic, germany would have eventually recovered, and possibly, mostly likely formed an alliance with russia. A german-russia aliance is not fantasy, or pure imagination. See the rapallo treaty (1922) between germany and russia, which made the anglos seethe. The rapallo treaty was reconducted with the treaty of Berlin (1926), which reaffirmed good relations between germany and russia. Guess what put an end to the treaty of Berlin, and german-russia good relations? The rise to power of Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Rapallo_(1922)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Berlin_(1926)

[Anonymous No.19322376]

>>19322275
once again you're still being completely dishonest and pushing the fact of anglos not wanting germany and russia in power automatically equating to the insane nonsensical conclusion that you've drawn, making absolutely massive leaps to arrive at your conclusion.
Hitlers rise to power ending good relations between them and russia was pretty clearly linked to communist agitators within Germany and the weimar republic, you know, the people who ACTUALLY stabbed germany in the back, who ACTUALLY gave anglos dominance of over the world order in the first place by literally launching an insurrections in both russia and germany during the first world war and who even after the failure of the insurrection were allowed to hold massive power in government and the nation as a whole

[Anonymous No.19322666]

>>19322376
>communist agitators within Germany and the weimar republic, you know, the people who ACTUALLY stabbed germany in the back, who ACTUALLY gave anglos dominance of over the world order in the first place by literally launching an insurrections in both russia and germany
I supposed you mean the jews? Funny, if you consider that both Hitler and the bolsheviks were financed by Warburg, that Hitler was financed by Rotschild through the bank of England, and by Rockefeller, who is Rotschild's pawn, through the standard oil, AEG, IG farben, companies which massively financed Hitler's CAMPAIN.

Also, what follows are not hard fact, but strong presumptions. Many historians presume that Hitler grandfather was a Rotschild. Alois Hitler mother, got IMPREGNATED when she was working at the Rotschild's manor in Vienna. Many historians came to this conclusion. Alois true father was never revealed. Maria Schicklegruber is probably a hoe in heat for jewish banker semen.
Now, what follow is hard fact. A genetic study done on 39 of Hitler relatives, reveal that Hitler had E1B1b DNA. That is DNA which is strongly present in askenazi jewish groups. Also, it's known that after Hitler's mommy died, he went in a youth center, and had jewish friends.
That is what is to be known about your Aryan Fuhrer.

[Anonymous No.19322721]

>>19320171
>You mean investing in public works such as the autobahn and centralizing production of consumer goods? Sure, I guess its not 'profitable' in the sense prostitution, child trafficking and rampant alchoholism was in weimar germany.

No I mean investing in military armaments and fuel self sufficiency, which dominated the allocation of Germany’s steel supplies and scarce foreign currency reserves.

Public infrastructure including the autobahns started before he took power and was never more than 10% of the money invested by the Nazi government

[Anonymous No.19322763]

>>19322376
>ACTUALLY gave anglos dominance of over the world order in the first place by literally launching an insurrections in both russia and germany during the first world war and who even after the failure of the insurrection were allowed to hold massive power in government and the nation as a whole
That is also retarded. Everybody who has read Wikipedia page on the february 1917 and october 1917 revolutions, know that the Tsar reputation was in the fucking GUTTER, month before Lenin's taking over in october 1917. Nobody wanted Tsaric power anymore, especially the people. Nicolas II was, and any historian, whatever his political preferences are, will admit that Nicolas II was totally burned, at the very begining of 1917. Only Hitlerian retards think that Tsaric power was something loved by the people by early 1917. Truth is, nobody could stand Nicolas II, even his own generals. That's literally wikipedia knowledge.
Also, regarding the communists german insuruction of 1918, it wouldn't have changed Germany's destiny, one bit. Germany couldn't have won the war, communist insurection, or not. It was over. About the Weimar republic, considering Hitler massive failure, and destruction of Germany forever, it's easy to assert that it was only better than Hitler. Indeed, what can be worse than the total, and definite destruction of an outcome? Hitler is the worst thing, by far, that ever happened to germany. Many germans, nationalists or not, agree. But hey, american incel virgin kids think he is cool.

[Anonymous No.19322783]

>>19322763
Germany would be basically the same today if the weimar people had won. This is the world they wanted. Hitler was an attempt at something else, it did not work because he was outnumbered about 3 to 1

[Anonymous No.19322790]

>>19322376
>Hitlers rise to power ending good relations between them and russia was pretty clearly linked to communist agitators within Germany and the weimar republic, you know, the people who ACTUALLY stabbed germany in the back
If you mean World War I, it was a criminal act in which bloated aristocrats and military officers sent millions of their own people to their deaths and they called that glory. And these royal families were all related to each other. Do you want to die for some asshole who inherited his wealth because he got into a family dispute? Well, many people believed in that kind of silliness. The "communist agitators" who opposed the war seem like the only people with common sense.

[Anonymous No.19322791]

>>19322783
It would have land tho

[Anonymous No.19322819]

>>19322721
>investing in military armaments and fuel self sufficiency
Fuel self sufficiency, by having contracts with Rockefeller's Standard oil.

[Anonymous No.19322829]

>>19322666
lol youre a real one trick pony arent you? as ive already pointed out, Anglo banks dumping money into Germany does not in any way imply the conspiracy you are making a huge leap towards, it implies the instability of the weimar government and that a rising populist forces vying to take over and pump money into their European nations to build up the economy and military is not only an obvious investment to make for free money, but if your enemies/rivals are the ones doing it, its doubly obvious to ensure that your money is tied in with their growth so every step they take profits you in some way and their renaissance is not a complete loss. your conspiracy is so hilariously juvenile and disconnected from the realities of geopolitics and global finance its hilarious. you seriously need to take a break from /pol/ before you start talking about how space isn't real

>hehe now let me share some obvious slander that i know isnt true

if you hadn't obviously shown your hand already, its pretty obvious you are looking to play the subversive rat after this little stunt. feel free to start dumping your "hitler was a tranny scat fetishest with one ball" folder

[Anonymous No.19322844]

>>19322763
.....nothing you said refutes the point that i made, that hitler had more than enough reason to break of ties with the soviets who were actively empowering communist subversives in every European nation, im not even sure why you posted this lol

[Anonymous No.19322850]

>>19322783
I do not agree. How many times do i have to repeat, are you blind? Germany doesn't exist anymore. 11 AMERICAN military bases, on american soil, Germany is fully integrated into NATO, It's on the european union. At least, france currently doesn't have AMERICAN military bases on it's soil.
Also, reminder that the weimar people did the Rapallo treaty (1922), as well as the berlin treaty (1926), which were treaty of cooperation between germany and russia. Apparently, weimar was not as bad as you think. I remember Hitler seething about the Weimar republic in mein kampf. Perhaps this is why you have a bad opinion about it?

[Anonymous No.19322852]

>>19322790
hey man, no argument from me, it makes me warm and fuzzy to know hitler gave them the finger and told them to fuck off and they got all butt flustered about him not just handing them the nation back to them when he took power

[Anonymous No.19322857]

>>19322819
Investing in fuel autarky doesn’t mean achieving it. Take a look at the work done to create synthetic fuels from brown coal if you want to find out more about this effort.

[Anonymous No.19322864]

>>19322850
France's military autonomy doesnt seem to actually accomplish anything, if anything it is worse off than Germany

[Anonymous No.19322870]

>>19322850
....germanies ties with NATO and american militairy would have been an inevitability with the rise of the soviets combined with germanies military and economic capabilities being crippled by treaty after the first world war

you are so fucking dumb it hurts, seriously take this shit to /pol/ where people might actually eat up the slop you are peddling

[Anonymous No.19322896]

>>19322844
That's an acceptable point you made. However, if you think in pure ideology, yes Hitler should cut ties with bolsheviks russian "communists" (which really were state Capitalists, but that another debate). If you think in long term geostrategics, a german-russia alliance is what would have garanteed european, as well as russian prosperity. The Anglos did everything they could to prevent such a german-russia alliance to come true, and even started, in my opinion, WWII, in order to destroy germany and militarily occupying germany forever, and so destroying at the same time this german-russia alliance forever.
Also, Germany cut ties with russia, and cut the berlin treaty(1926), a few month after the rise to power of Hitler. However, Anglos never consider stopping doing business with russia. As prove the numerous economical treaties done by the anglos with russia, between the two world war, and in WWII, with the financing and arming of russia by the anglos.
So yeah, in short, for Hitler, cutting ties with russia, in 1933, -if it wasn't a great conspiracy done by Hitler, the anglo agent under mind control-, is clearly a stupid move. A stupid move, that could have given prosperity to the eurasian continent for the next century. That's why the Hilter's anglo agent hypothesis must be investigated.

[Anonymous No.19322906]

>>19322864
France still has a residual colonial empire. As seen with recent intervention of france in Mali. France also control a fair lot of african country. Sure, it's a puny little residual empire, but it is something. Germany has nothing left. You hear me boy? NOTHING. Thanks to the jewish Fuhrer.

[Anonymous No.19322913]

>>19322896
>However, Anglos never consider stopping doing business with russia. As prove the numerous economical treaties done by the anglos with russia, between the two world war, and in WWII, with the financing and arming of russia by the anglos.
Does this not make you wonder a bit if theyd been on the same side the entire time and were always going to ally agaisnt Germany once it stepped out of line

[Anonymous No.19322921]

>>19322906
All frances ex empire does for it is replace its people with immigrants

[Anonymous No.19322928]

>>19322870
>...germanies ties with NATO and american militairy would have been an inevitability
Do you even know that NATO only exist since 1949? If the Rapallo treaty (1922) and the berlin treaty (1926), making germany closer and closer had come to even greater german-russia treaties, germany would not have allied to the anglos, but to russia. That's the whole point. Try to follow the debate a little.

[Anonymous No.19322938]

>>19322913
You don't understand. You need to think in term of geostrategy.
Anglo can do business with russia. Anglo can do business with germany. Doesn't matter. Will make money. Even if germany loose, the anglo still own the companies they have invested in, like AEG (which was strangely undammaged in germany, by the end of the war. It was not bombed).
However, a german russia alliance, would create, with the fusion of german high level engineering, and almost infinite russian natural ressources, a continental SUPERPOWER. That the Anglos could not allow.

[Anonymous No.19322947]

>>19322921
And makes money for french blue chip companies. E.G: Areva, and Uranium mines, in Niger.

[Anonymous No.19322958]

>>19322938
Anglos, Germany, and russia were ruled by specific people, these people had relationships with each other. Certain things Germany did in the 30s cut it out of the circle

[Anonymous No.19322960]

>>19322896
it was a "bad move" if you are literally so retarded you think the soviets had no ambitions in europe and in germany specifically. the soviets and the anglos both had their hands in weimar Germany treaty or not, kicking the soviets out of germany as soon as humanly possible was not even a fucking question, it was a necessity, of course they broke of treaties just months after coming into power the omost powerful factions int he weimar governments were literally anglo and soviet loyalists. this theory if yours is so blatantly full of holes, all youre doing is making it clear that national socialism as nothing more than a last ditch attempt by an ideologically radicalized man to make an independent nation out of one that was ALREADY caught between and at the mercy anglos and soviets, and your entire argument literally just boils down to "well he failed so that means his intentions were wrong from the start"

[Anonymous No.19322984]

>>19322928
holy FUCk yes i do know that, and germany literally had 2 options, either maintain a pseudo-NATO stance where their nation was entirely dependent on western powers, or see the nation cave to the soviets. you're fucking delusional if you think a treaty between the weimar government and the soviets means everything would be sunshine and roses between the two nations, completely fucking delusional, how naive are you? keeping with the soviets would have made it an absolute certainty meant that the communists fuels by soviets would have taken the government . Hitler was option 3

[Anonymous No.19322992]

>>19322960
>ideologically radicalized man to make an independent nation out of one that was ALREADY
Go suck your jewish fuhrer dick, born out of unholy carnal union, in the Rotschild's manor. Maria Schicklegruber has sucked all the Rotschilds. You know why? Not for money, nor because she was forced. Because she LIKED it.

[Anonymous No.19323008]

>>19322984
>keeping with the soviets would have made it an absolute certainty meant that the communists fuels by soviets would have taken the government . Hitler was option 3
Yet a soviet germany, (i personally despise soviets) allied with a soviet russia, would have created a continental superpower, crushing the anglos. This is a fact. But hey, destroying germany forever was a better solution. Retard.

[Anonymous No.19323009]

>>19322992
kvetch harder lmao

[Anonymous No.19323011]

>>19322992
You didn't really get the verbal iq did you

[Anonymous No.19323017]

>>19323009
>>19323011
(((Aryan fuhrer)))

[Anonymous No.19323018]

>>19323008
HAHAH ok yea, you've definitely shown your hand good job. let me guess, you're a tankie arent you? it all comes down to this, you want a commie Germany, everything you've said is so transparently laced with lies and holes because its all just a construct to try and convert people

[Anonymous No.19323030]

>>19323018
>let me guess, you're a tankie arent you?
Absolutely not. Classical Marxist. Not that you would know what it refers to. For you, communism is about Lenin or Stalin indeed (State Capitalism).

[Anonymous No.19323046]

>>19323018
>you want a commie Germany
How about a self managed commie world? Is that ambitious enough for you? No money, no commodity, no wage labor, self managed. How is about about showing my hand. You scared boy? You fear you will miss your next playstation?

[Anonymous No.19323073]

>>19323046
How about we all sprout wings and lions stop eating zebras

[Anonymous No.19323092]

>>19323030
no im well aware of what classical marxism means, you self-important ass, this isnt /pol/ where communism means having health care, go somewhere else to look for easy targets to feel like an intellectual. either way its been obvious from the beginning that that you had subversive intentions here lmao. you people are too transparent, unfortunately you have to be engaged so everyone sees the man behind the curtain. my job is done here
>>19323046
communism was never going to actually end with a stateless classless utopia you delusional retard, the entire idea is inherently self defeating at its core. im happy taking real concrete steps that directly improve working class families and allow them to grow and prosper, not circle jerking over theory to feel like a big smart academic, im not falling for your meme carrot on the stick where the utopia is perpetually just over the next hill

[Anonymous No.19323128]

>>19323030
Lmao you /leftypol/ faggots come here thinking you possess some sort of esoteric knowledge because you read about hegel on wikipedia once haha. I cant believe how arrogant and full of yourselves you people are.

[Anonymous No.19323131]

>>19323092
>happy taking real concrete steps that directly improve working class families and allow them to grow and prosper
There is no real concrete steps you brainlet. Capitalism is dead. Due to the tendency of hte rate of profit to fall, Capital accumulation is broken. What's left is fictitious value, like debt, quantitative easing, paper money.
Yet you mongoloid think that you'll make, out of this dead Capitalism, a nice natinal socialist paradize. The superclass has managed Capitalism until this point, and yet you national "socialists" capitalists want to shoulder the responsability for the terminal fall of Capitalism. That's wonferfully retarded. I mean, you don't realize it, but you'll play the role of jesus christs. The superclass binged on Capitalism since 150 years, yet you retards want to take over, and be on command when Capitalism finally collapse. Well, you'll be crucified instead of the anglo-jewish superclass, who is far smarter than you, by the way. Don't worry, it's not us, per se, classical marxist, a tiny minority, who will crucify you. It's the very people.

[Anonymous No.19323178]

>>19323131
kek you live in a complete fucking fantasy world my dude, do you not have enough self awareness to see how rich this is coming from you? your ideology is a fucking exercise in logic that LITERALLY can only exist in any meaningful way in the complete vacuum of theory where it isn't exposed to the trillions of variables of the human experience. of course you say "There is no real concrete steps you can take" the entire concept of "concrete" is foreign to you, you fucking clown. you people are genuinely evil, you do nothing but destroy the lives of working class people while babbling about the fabled workers paradise like schizophrenic retard while families are out there RIGHT NOW who can be easily helped an enabled without completely throwing the entirety of civilization into disarray to fulfill your fantasy

[Anonymous No.19323197]

>>19323178
Go take your vax if you haven't yet. Useless commodity worshipper. This world is going into the slaughterhouse, and nothing, especially your little national socialism, will prevent this. Commodity worshipper you are.
The only exit is to abolish commodity, money wage labor.
But you don't have the IQ to understand this anyway. Oh by the way, you think you are rebel, and badass, because you worship jewish Hitler? Protip: you aren't. You are just an other commodity worshipper.

[Anonymous No.19323210]

>>19319504
there is and you're a dishonest person

[Anonymous No.19323212]

>>19323131
>it will somehow become impossible to pay someone to do a job
It is wild that communists believe this lmao. I mean when you really stop and think about what they're saying

[Anonymous No.19323223]

>>19318344
>he thinks Nietzsche doesn't dislike traditionally-defined decadents

[Anonymous No.19323225]

>>19323197
JEJ yea, i cant believe you actually think youre some big brain who can insult other peoples IQ just because you've attached yourself to a purely theoretical meme solution that will literally never come into existence no matter how many times the economy tanks, and no matter how many times your kind take power. ALWAYS you people deflect criticism by saying "heh you people just dont understand". its fucking insane how arrogant you people are. all you do is make yourself look like an ass.

[Anonymous No.19323253]

>>19323212
You don't know absolute shit about the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, combined with market saturation. No wonder you are still hitlerian, after all these years. It's not because you don't like jews, it's because you are retarded. Anybody who has think about it, knows that Capital accumulation is not possible anymore. National socialsm, liberal Capitalism, or whatever you retard commodity reformists want. It won't work. Only a post market society could function.
Oh by the way, almost forgot, how do you retard national "socialist" will fix the negative interest rates? Oh, shit, you absolutely cannot, because there is nothing to fix. It's not fixable. You think saying "heil hitler", having a swatiska flags, and a hitlerian salute will fix the negative interest rates?
You people are totally, totally clueless, and worthless. Go back on Bitchute watching a speech of jewish Hitler.

[Anonymous No.19323274]

>>19323253
kek its so funny how far up your own ass you people are
>only my meme ideology which literally has no real world application can save you!!!!

you people are totally, totally clueless, and worthless.

[Anonymous No.19323277]

>>19323253
And yet people go on accumulating capital and wage labor still exists all over the world, despite markets being very distorted by various issues.

As for Hitler I really dont know that much about him. I also have no grand designs for society and even if I did it wouldn't matter.

[Anonymous No.19323288]

>>19323212
you DONT GET IT BRO

It W I L L be impossible because PRIVATE PROPERTY has FAILED and humanity has NO CHOICE but to become a SWEET hippie drum circle where we pass some joints around and have a good time!

[Anonymous No.19323302]

>almost 300 posts of pedophiles and commies seething this hard
I think this thread is probably the best endorsement the book in the OP could ever ask for

[Anonymous No.19323430]

>>19319705
Perhaps they did, but women were discouraged from working, rather trying to encourage them to being a wife. Women were restricted from teaching in universities and joining the nsdap for example. Women were not allowed in positions of responsibility. A few exceptions did exist.

[Anonymous No.19323434]

>>19323430
And that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.19323446]

>>19319701
lmao not including women in unemployment numbers isnt a "trick" to "artificially mess with numbers" its a reflection of differing cultural values. what a greasy dishonest thing to claim.

[Anonymous No.19323480]

>>19323430
That didnt actually work incidentally. They didnt manage to get the birth rates back up. The more far right guys attribute this to he nazis being too feminist/not patriarchal enough. There were probably other factors

[Anonymous No.19323494]

>>19323480
im pretty sure the other factor is the fact that the nation was still in its infancy and it would take time to see serious results. the birthrates were in serious decline, then plateaud throughout the 30s, then began a pretty big upward curve at around 1939

[Anonymous No.19324317]

>>19323210
There is not, and you're delusional.

[Anonymous No.19324352]

>>19318667
The graph itself says it's shite. Based sincere meme. Actually more transparent than most current academic papers.

[Anonymous No.19324420]

It would be helpful if Holocaust questioners weren't also of the mind that it should have happened.

[Anonymous No.19324682]

>>19323277
>And yet people go on accumulating capital and wage labor still exists all over the world, despite markets being very distorted by various issues.
Like i say, and i will repeat it, again, it's not real value. It's virtual value. Let me explain: it's printed money. Capital accumulation cannot work natural anymore, so the central banks inject virtual, fictitious, money, through negative interest rates, into the economy. That is fake value.
I do not think all of you people understand the gravity of this. You think a nice swatiska flag, or a Hitler salute, or parades at the step of the goose, with national "socialist" banners, would fix negative interest rates?
Let me explain what negative interest rates mean. I means, capitalism is fucked. I mean, really, fucked. Any honest economist would agree, whatever his political flavor is.
Now you people think that national socialism could fix, something that is not fixable. That is why you are a joke. Not because you are anti-jews. Don't give a shit about this. Because you don't understand that no swatiskas, no fuhrer, no racial pride, or whatever bullshit coming from a jewish fuhrer, could ever fix the negative interest rates. It's over.

[Anonymous No.19324698]

>>19315763
I miss him

[Anonymous No.19324738]

>>19324682
>hasn't heard of gottfried feder

[my thought !A7DV.dzxvY No.19325079]

>>19315763
No and No, just read Mein Kampf, read the sources of historical events, talk to actual historians not pol-tards and dont expect to be comfortably fed the truth by second hand sources, you want the real truth, youll have to dig deep. But youll find the real truth is basically the one you were told in school.

>Germans have a rough time after world war 1
>Fascism is gaining momentum (back in those days being a fascist weren't considered a bad thing, just one of the many modern ideologies emerging)
>Hitler and his gang of drunks, war trauma victims (including Hitler) and crazy people he met in prison take over the Nazi party and during the night of the long knives he got rid of the socialist Strasserists in the party, making it fascist
>Hitler begins a reactionary movement with fascist corporatist economics at its center, it works quite well but not well enough, so he begins to persecute jews and others more thoroughly and plans to invade Poland for "lebensraum"
>The rest is pretty well known, when the war breaks out he orders Jews to be concentrated in camps so they can do no mischief, he also plans to expel them somewhere else (possibly Israel)
>War goes bad, and now America has joined, Germany thinks America joining the war is because the powerful American Jews on wallstreet have manipulated them into the war (He was losing his mind towards the end, he was hopped up on meth and all other kinds of bullshit, obviously America Joined the war because they were attacked by the nips, also America was clear throughout the war, that they thought Germany would win, and that that was fine)
>Hitler begins killing jews as a way to blackmail the "wealthy Jews in America"

[Anonymous No.19325187]

>>19324682
One of my favorite things about communists is that they say ctrl banks committing fraud is somehow "propping up capitalism". It hinders capitalism. It is just theft but marxists cant accept this because it's not le surplus value and saying its theft is associated with nazis and libertarians so they take this ludicrous line about it somehow helping markets

[Anonymous No.19325458]

>>19315914
>TIK told me not to trust Irving
Its laughable how the guy that, without any awareness whatsoever, analyses everything through his lolbert worldview has the gall to call anyone untrustworthy and a bad historian.

[Anonymous No.19325663]

>>19325187
You don't get it. Money creation is not theft, because some bad jews decided, in the synagogue basement, to print money.
Negative interest rate, aka money printing, happens because Capital accumulation, in saturated market, and overproduction, cannot happen naturally, on the free market, anymore. Value cannot be created anymore, because due to gigantic productivity of the ultra modern machines, markets are SATURATED. So commodity cannot be SOLD anymore, and Capital ROTATE properly. So in order to plug the holes, central banks HAVE TO have negative interest rates, aka money printing.
It's not an eschatologic multimillenarian sanhedrinic jewish messianic talmudo zionist central banking conspiracy.
It's because if central banks don't have negative interest rates, in a market saturation situation, the whole economy COLLAPSE. You just do. not. get. it.
Also, your swatiska flags, and jewish fuhrer, offer absolutely no solution against the tendency of the rate of profit to fall.
Only classical marxism with money abolition, and replacement with labor vouchers, offer a real solution. Other solution are not solution, but massive cope.
The "elite" solution is a great reset, some sort of rent based neo feudalism, where you'll rent your consumption, instead of buying, and owning it. That way, Capital rotation isn't necessary anymore, since a continuous rent guarantees a continuous flow of income, for the owners of the means of production.
But why do i say all this to you, you don't understand anything i say anyway. Go back watching a Hitler or Mussolini speech on Bitchute. It's more adequate to your intellectual level.

[Anonymous No.19325681]

>>19325663
No it's very straightforward theft. Amusing that a communist just takes what the fed says at face value

[Anonymous No.19325699]

>>19324738
>gottfried feder
Gottfried feder, seething about jewish finance, yet, the Reich was funded by: Rothschild, through the bank of England, the american fed, Rotschild again, Rockefeller, through the Standard oil, IG farben, which financed directly HItler's campain, AEG. Also, Warburg, the same who financed the bolsheviks, and the Bush family. Dupont also financed Hitler.
It's funny about you people, because when those jewish banker finance the (shitty) bolsheviks, you seethe about a multimillenarian jewish conspiracy. Yet, when those exact same jewish banker finance Hitler, you say it's normal to accept foreign funds in order to boost german economy. This is typical denial. Accepting proofs, and facts, only when it suits you. It's exactly the same mode which operates the mainstream medias.

[Anonymous No.19325708]

>>19325699
They weren't funding him after he overhauled the financial system...

[Anonymous No.19325727]

>>19325681
You still don't get it you half wit. If, it today market saturation, you have 6% interest rates, entreprises could never reimburse their loans, they would get bankrupt, and collapse.
Also, you just confessed that you didn't know that the european central bank is mostly publicly owned, by the european national central banks, which themselves belong publicly to the european states.
Same for the chinese central bank, which belong 100% to the chinese State.
Same for the japanese central bank, owned mostly, and control mostly, by the japanese state.
Not all central banks are rotschild owned retard. It's mostly the american fed, and the bank of england.
Again, in a market saturated economy, a (mostly) publicly owned european central bank HAS TO print money. Not because of a millenarian jewish conspiracy. But because if commodity cannot be sold, due to the saturation of market, companies cannot reimburse their loans. So they have to have negative interest rates, which basically is giving free money. This, in order to avoid a global collapse. I'm sure you still don't get it. You IQ 105 national socialist.

[Anonymous No.19325734]

>>19325708
Yes they were. Standard old, IG farben, AEG, were property of Rockefeller, until the very end, and even after the war. If only you knew how ignorant you people really are...

[Anonymous No.19325802]

>>19325663
Recommend me books for your knowledge.

[Anonymous No.19325813]

>>19325734
Did they finance Mussolini tho?

[Anonymous No.19326355]

>>19325802
Ah. Yes okay.
"Worldwide Evil and Misery. The Legacy of the 13 Satanic Bloodlines" from Robin de Ruiter and Fritz Springmeier. This books talks about both the funding of the Bolsheviks, by the anglos central bankers, as well as the funding of Hitler, from the same people. It may sound crazy conspiracy like, but it is pretty factual, and sourced. Fritz Springmeier was probably framed by the deep state for a fake bank robbery complicity, and spend 7 years in prison (he was sentenced to 12 years).

You also have the more classic "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" by Antony C. Sutton.
About the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, and why Capitalism is over, it's Das Kapital, Volume 3, by you know who.
>>19325813
And don't know about Mussolini's financing, however, it is known that Mussolini had quite of lot of jews, in his entourage. Even had a jewess lover.

[Anonymous No.19326562]

>>19324682
>economists are honest only if they agree with me

[Anonymous No.19326572]

>>19325079
>he also plans to expel them somewhere else (possibly Israel)
Wasn't there a mention of Madagascar?

[Anonymous No.19326576]

>>19325663
>labor vouchers
Explain how this is not just money by another name.

[Anonymous No.19326591]

>>19325727
I'm flattered you think my IQ as high as 105. Unfortunately this meager intelligence prevents from understanding how currency dilution is not obvious theft and I dont think you could explain it to me.

[Anonymous No.19326600]

>>19315763
this thread's so fucking bad lmaoooo
>>19323302
this

[Anonymous No.19326611]

>>19326355
Okay I will eventually get to volume 3 of Kapital and read that Ruiter and Speingmeier book you recommend.
I am no anti-semite so I don't care that Mussolini hung around Jews.

[Anonymous No.19326669]

>>19323302

[Anonymous No.19326670]

>>19324682
Soddy said he solved the problem and Marx is unnecessary

[Anonymous No.19326790]

>>19326576
Because labor voucher are nominative, and do not circulate. You cannot buy means of production with them. When the voucher is used, to convert an amount of work, into an amount of consumption, it is destroyed. You obviously cannot use the voucher to obtain a credit. And cannot pawn it.
>>19326591
Negative interest rates is theft. But even if it serve the interest of the superclass, because they get richer, they do it primarily, because, in a market saturated economy, they don't have any other choice. Explain to me how, in a 0% Capital accumulation economy, you can expect 6% central bank interest rates. Quantitative easing is not only because muh rich scam the people. It's because if 6% central money interest rates were in place, companies couldn't reimburse their loans, and there would be cascading bankruptcy. Central banking goal, and ex nihilo money creation, if done in a public central bank, was to be able to follow the economy. If there was massive growth, the central bank interest rates were high (around 8-10% in the 1980s). That in order to prevent inflation. Follow the industrial Capital growth on it's massive growth. On the other hand, if the economy is on the gutter, like it is now, and it won't change, because of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, combined with market saturation, central bank interest rates are super low, or even negative. Not because of a jewish plot. But because companies CAN'T paid their loans back, if they can't sold their goods, due to market saturation.
You central bank obsessed people think yourself smart as archimedes. But you only have half of the equation, the money creation. Not what dictates it, industrial Capital accumulation.

[Anonymous No.19326827]

>>19315914
TIK is a youtuber retard, you shouldn't trust him if anything. You probably shouldn't trust Irving just because he has a very particular point of view and he's a bit dated, his works are still worth a read if you're invested though.

[Anonymous No.19326853]

>>19325079
the book in the OP is well sourced and perfectly legitimate my subversive friend

[Anonymous No.19326870]

>>19315763
Er war der Retter unsrer Nation,
des deutschen Volkes größter Sohn.
Er beseitigte die Schranken der Klasse
und brachte uns die Botschaft der Rasse.

Adolf Hitler - unser Führer,
Adolf Hitler - unser Held.
Adolf Hitler war der größte
Revolutionär der Welt.

Juden und Freimaurerorden wollten
ihn immer wieder ermorden.
Am 20. Juli hamm sie es versucht,
auf ewig seien ihre Namen verflucht.

Adolf Hitler - unser Führer,
Adolf Hitler - unser Held.
Adolf Hitler war der größte
Revolutionär der Welt.

Die Juden mit ihrer Unmenge Geld
hetzten gegen Deutschland die Armeen der Welt.
Doch wir glauben nicht an des Führers Selbstmord,
in unseren Herzen lebt er ewig fort.

Adolf Hitler - unser Führer,
Adolf Hitler - unser Held.
Adolf Hitler war der größte
Revolutionär der Welt.

[Anonymous No.19326879]

>>19325663
nazis didnt fix the issue of wanton money printing by "waving" flags" you fucking imbecile, they fixed it by tying the printing of new currency in with labour and social programs

how could you be so confident while having no fucking clue what you are talking about?

[Anonymous No.19326908]

>>19315775
Kill yourself ugly dyke

[Anonymous No.19326944]

>>19325663
>>19326879
national socialist currency can only be printed and introduced in the economy via social programs and labour projects, meaning almost all money introduced into the economy is put in the hands of consumers, which combined with the incentive to grow families, continuously increases consumer demand, and increasing consumer demand mitigates market saturation

[Anonymous No.19326953]

>>19326879
>they fixed it by tying the printing of new currency in with labour and social programs
Oh shit, money creation ex nihilo! Genius. Totally different because...just because. Muh TIED WITH LABOUR AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS. Almost a globohomo social democracy monetary policy. Goebbels must be proud, indoctrinating retards, 100 years after the fact.

[Anonymous No.19326959]

>>19326944
That's marketing crap. It's money creation ex nihilo. Nothing fancy.

[Anonymous No.19326964]

>>19326953
It's certainly different than giving it to wall street

[Anonymous No.19326966]

>>19326959
>>19326953
>no argument

[Anonymous No.19326973]

>>19326959
how is that marketing crap? its literally a seriously major and tangible difference from the type of market you described to make your argument, that deals with the issue of money printing and market saturation..

[Anonymous No.19326983]

>>19326944
>meaning almost all money introduced into the economy is put in the hands of consumers
Yes i'm sure Hitler's Youth, that no created german money, was to pay the dividends of the american shareholders of AEG, IG Farben, Siemens, Opel, etc... Keep dreaming about your good "national socialist" international Capitalism.

[Anonymous No.19326993]

>>19326973
Market saturation is not corelated to money creation, but to the constant increase of mechanical productivity, which saturate itself.

[Anonymous No.19327000]

>>19326966
>>19326973
A ex nihilo created monetary inflation of 2% is a monetary inflation of 2%. Whether it was calculated through growth expectations, or through muh labor and social programs, the effect is exactly the same: an inflation of 2%.

[Anonymous No.19327006]

>>19327000
So what is the solution, smart guy?

[Anonymous No.19327012]

>>19327006
Abolish money.

[Anonymous No.19327015]

>>19327012
And how do you do that?

[Anonymous No.19327017]

>>19327015
oh you know.

[Anonymous No.19327018]

>>19326983
lol what the fuck are you even saying here? what i described is literally how their currency works
>>19326993
market saturation is production outpacing demand you fucking retard, this problem is mitigated when any new currency printed goes into the hands of consumers and moves bottom-up instead of simply being used to bail out companies and do nothing but maintain or increase productivity without increasing demand. it also helps that almost all currency printed represents a piece of infrastructure or something real and tangible built, which means demand is even FURTHER increased

[Anonymous No.19327027]

>>19327017
No I don't know.
Also labor vouchers don't get rid of capitalism.

[Anonymous No.19327029]

>>19327000
inflation wasn't an issue because all currency made was directly tied with the production of real life assets

[Anonymous No.19327088]

>>19327018
>which means demand is even FURTHER increased
Imagine thinking you can increase demand indefinitely. Imagine thinking industrial productivity tends toward infinite production, and thinking, you can have a correlated infinite demand. Lol.

[Anonymous No.19327104]

>>19327088
i dont have to imagine, its a big universe out there and everyone's favorite SS officer was more than capable of enabling us to grasp it, and made it his lifes goal.

[Anonymous No.19327113]

>>19327018
>market saturation is production outpacing demand you fucking retard, this problem is mitigated when any new currency printed goes into the hands of consumers and moves bottom-up instead of simply being used to bail out companies and do nothing but maintain or increase productivity without increasing demand. it also helps that almost all currency printed represents a piece of infrastructure or something real and tangible built, which means demand is even FURTHER increased
What you describe, is low inflation money creation. But in you mind, if this low inflation money created is rigorously tied by a national socialist government to a "piece of infrastructure or something real", then it's magical national socialist low inflation money creation.
One of us do not understand, and i think it's you.

[Anonymous No.19327144]

>>19327113
and your point? tying currency to real life assets helps it maintain its value, im failing to see the problem here

[Anonymous No.19327145]

By the way, german wages stagnated during Hitler's era.

[Anonymous No.19327162]

>>19327144
Well if this is what national socialism is about, then lol. Okay, why not. You won't fix Capitalism with this. The value of everything is collapsing, due to the constant increase of mechanical productivity. Combine this constant decrease in value, with market saturation, and you face the internal contradiction. Capital cannot even create enough value to perform a stabilized Capital anymore. That's why money printing happen, to make the illusion that Capital still accumulate.

[Anonymous No.19327197]

>>19327162
yes well we arent exactly talking about he same style of market here. the biggest contribution to the value plummeting and rapid increase in productivity outpacing demand is from 2 main factors as far as i can tell. 1) outsourcing production to the 3rd world sweatshop-plantations enabling a genuinely terrible form of mass production, and 2) the way pure fiat currency works and the way its printed basted on nothing and put into the economy from the top-down. national socialism addresses both of these problems.

[Anonymous No.19327211]

>>19327162
What do you think of paul gringon and his money as debt documentary?
https://youtu.be/isIDiNWyMnI
moneyasdebt.net

[Anonymous No.19327649]

>>19324317
There is, and you're coping.

[Anonymous No.19327846]

>>19327649
You are correct. The other guy is not.

[Anonymous No.19327852]

>>19327145
You mean stabilized and increased after the Weimar era. If you want to attack the man it's best to give the devil his due...otherwise, anons who care enough at best just think you're a midwit or at worst a liar.

[Anonymous No.19328397]

>>19315763
New bread

>>19327533

NEW BREAD

>>19327533

NEW BREAD

>>19327533