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What can I expect? The combo female author plus female protagonist have me on the back foot, I won't lie.

>> No.19314861
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I don’t know about this author, but I enjoyed this one a lot.

>> No.19314871

>>19314786
her Song of Achill was very underwhelming, dropped it 1/3 in, but people say Circe is much better. see for yourself

>> No.19314875

>>19314786
Any attempt to make fiction set in myths of a formerly existing culture is a waste of time. Just read the greeks, there is so much material you can spend a lifetime.

>> No.19314878

>>19314786

It's alright. Feels like a spin-off story of the Odyssey.

>> No.19314884

I haven't read that book, but the character of Circe in my interpretation is the Greek parable for avoiding lascivious jezebels. Those who allow themselves to stay at her island, or allow jezebels to occupy their consciousness, weaken themselves and become animalistic like swine. I would imagine the author uses a modern feminist lens to mutate this patriarchally devised idea into a defense of the modern jezebel.

>> No.19314912

>>19314786
>I'm gonna read this femtrash and be butthurt because I'm a tiny dick incel with an inferiority complex, please help me jerk off

>> No.19314953
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>>19314875
>a waste of time.
I grow tired of this phrase. This is entertainment. A pastime that can inform and inspire, but is mostly to entertain.
Some contemporary authors could put more effort into making us believe it’s a lost bit of mythology, but they prefer their spins. Critique that aspect next, right?
Have you read Roberto Calasso’s Cadmium and Harmony?

>>19314884
Sounds good

>> No.19314986

>>19314953
>A pastime that can inform and inspire, but is mostly to entertain.
what a cope

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>>19314986
Nonfiction is just as much a “cope”

>> No.19315058

>>19314953
Butters you are the only jezebel I want :(

>> No.19315074

>>19315058
she only likes girls! you have to transition! and she is a terf anyway, so very difficult for you to pull off! sad!

>> No.19315078

>>19314953
>>a waste of time.
>I grow tired of this phrase. This is entertainment. A pastime that can inform and inspire, but is mostly to entertain.
Both of these things can be true at the same time. The Greeks writing about themselves and their own culture in their own style is far more informing, inspiring, & entertaining than pop myhtical-fiction. It's a waste of time because it has no merit as entertainment, not just because it has no merit as art.

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>>19315078
This is why I didn’t just say “no it isn’t”
Using an old culture to write about our own time is useful

>> No.19315103

>>19315074
I dont really care about what she wants

>> No.19315106

>>19315097
>Using an old culture to write about our own time is useful
When it's done right, sure, Percy Shelly's Prometheus Unbound is a decent example. But mythical-fiction is just a type of genre fiction and has no merit regardless.

>> No.19315111

>>19314786
I’ve wondered for a while: how is “Circe” pronounced? I never studied the Odyssey in school.

>> No.19315126

>>19315111
KEER-KEY or surs-see if youre anglo

>> No.19315146

>>19315111
Kir-kee/Sir-see

>> No.19315154

>>19315111

You don't need to study anything to know how to pronnounce it as long as you speak english.

>> No.19315282

>>19315146
Thanks.

>>19315126
Thanks.

>>19315154
Wasn’t aware Odysseus and the bunch were speaking English.

>> No.19315387

>>19315126
>>19315146
>>19315154

To expand on my post here (>>19315282): it would be "Kerk-ey" wouldn't it? As far as I know there's no letter we'd—as English speakers—recognize as C in the Greek language (the soft C), only various morphemes starting with K that make the hard K sound (ex. Kappa). I'm assuming "Circe" is a Latinate transmutation of her name, in which case it would still be pronounced with the hard "K" sound since there's no soft C pronunciation in Latin.

>> No.19315576

>>19315387
it's spelled kirke in the peter green translation, for that reason, i imagine.

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>>19314953
>Have you read Roberto Calasso’s Cadmium and Harmony
Yes, I liked it a lot. Mentioning it is a non sequitor though since it isn't a novel. When a modern author, especially a woman, sets about recreating people and events from 2000+ years ago she's liable to subconsciously inject a crippling amount of her contemporary preconceptions into it.
Take for example the Penelopiad. It's literally the exact same book as Circe because both novels can be summed up as, "I am a woman, and yet I am in Greece. Men exist relative to me. I am in a position of power relative to the women around me. I can see and think about things clearly. I am a woman." It's just femoid posturing at its most basic.
How in a million years could a woman presume to write a first-person novel from the perspective of an ancient Greek warrior? The very concept is ridiculous. And of course, every woman being a schoolgirl at heart, she injects gay romance into it.
Women appreciate these books as acts of masturbation, they honestly shouldn't be counted as literature.

>> No.19316117

>>19315748
>every woman being a schoolgirl at heart, she injects gay romance into it.
What is it with women and male homosexual romance anyway?

>> No.19316125

>>19316117
I don’t think you’re ready to know.

>> No.19317197

>>19316117
It's not hard to come up with possible reasons. Just off the top of my head:
>Women's brains are wired to be attracted to other women (for various reasons). Women then project their homosexuality onto men and are particularly titillated by the combination of stimuli offered by yaoi.
>Women are pleased by the notion of gay men because, as fellow homosexuals, gays are more womanlike and so inspire less penis envy or rape fear.
>Women (especially pubescent or menopausal women, which tend to be more insecure about their attractiveness) prefer male/male romance because they'd feel threatened by the presence of an attractive female in the story; for the fujoshi a male x female romance would be tantamount to NTR.

>> No.19318672

>>19315074
>she is a terf anyway
Is this true? If so, based.

>> No.19318810

>>19318672
Yes. She doesn’t like to admit it, but she is. I witnessed her derail an entire thread a few weeks ago just to complain about trannies. She then came into one of my threads a few days ago and complained about it being unrelated to literature.

>> No.19318881

>>19318672
>>19318810
Yeah, but it’s in the nicest way possible. I don’t tell them to kill themselves, but try to accept themselves for what they are. And I’m personally sick of hearing about it. Not to forget being called one.

>> No.19318896

>>19314786
Pretty sure she fucks Odysseus, which is why the Odysseus complex is named as such, and women like hosting feasts that make pigs of men.

>> No.19318929

>>19314953
I read this book, it wasn't too bad