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>Around 3000 sonnets, 3 novels, 4 short novels, 9 epics, 3 didactic poems, and several hundreds of comedies (1800 comedies according to Juan Pérez de Montalbán) are attributed to him.
HOW DID HE DO IT BROS??????

>> No.19310173

Just write bro.

>> No.19310226

>>19310163
And english speakers still think Shakespeare is the single greatesr writer of all times...
Spanish Siglo de Oro btfo of Shakespeare

>> No.19310292

>>19310226
Shakespeare wrote 100 sonnets. This guy did that x30

>> No.19310307

>>19310163
By not browsing 4chan.

>> No.19310335

>>19310163
Remember that you don't need to write well to write a lot. You just need diligence.
This is not a blow against Lope de Vega, by the way, just stating an answer to OP's question.

>> No.19310414

It's funny how Spain became a powerful country, with plenty of great writers, right after the creation of the Spanish Inquisition. And as soon as it was abolished, it turned back to shit.

>> No.19310561

>>19310226
>>19310292
maybe 5% of all that stuff is actually worthy of reading, though

>> No.19310593

>>19310414
state control and censorship doesn't decrease creativity, in fact, it improves it as authors try to find new ways to avoid constrictions

>> No.19310602

>>19310561
Yes, but that 5% ia already on the Shakesperian level. Not to mention the superior Cervantes

>> No.19310617

>0 of them are good
Incredible

>> No.19310627

>>19310617
because you've read them all right? in spanish, right?

>> No.19310642

>>19310602
>but that 5% ia already on the Shakesperian level
proof?

>> No.19310664

>>19310414
>And as soon as it was abolished, it turned back to shit
What? Spanish decadence in literature started during the 17th century (although many great writers were still appearing, and New Spain was going through a sort of renaissance) and became very apparent during the 18th century. The Spanish inquisition was still active then. In fact, Spanish literature did not become good again until decades after the inquisition ended.

>> No.19310735

>>19310627
>in spanish
Why would I? Your most famous authors (Borges, GGM) say English is a better language.

>> No.19310741

>>19310163
incredible volume for an irrelevant author

>> No.19310757

>>19310642
He just means that if we are to give 5% credence here, 5% of his output is still a large amount in comparison to Shakespeare’s full output.

>> No.19310791

>>19310163
17 childrens too

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19310810

>>19310741
Story of my life
Got a 600,000 word diary in 3 years
All trash
How do I get it published after I blow my brains out?

>> No.19311018

>>19310735
Yeah I miss the part when Cervantes and Góngora said that

>> No.19311620

>>19310163
Can someone post links to read his poetry? I can fumble through spanish but I'd like to read it in english. And how good is his "sequel" to Orlando Furioso?

Its honestly hard to imagine that anything this guy produced was comparable to Milton or Spenser, much less Shakespeare though.

>> No.19311681

>>19311620
Also how good is something like Jerusalén conquistada? I cant find a plot summary of it anywhere, but it just looks like a really long version of Tasso's poem. Honestly from what I've read, I'm not impressed.

>> No.19311688

>>19310163
cocaine and semen retention

>> No.19311755

>>19310226
Post a single work that's not completely midtier, much less Shakespeare tier. This guy seems to just have outputted a fuck ton of mostly rubbish with the odd gem. He's literally so poorly read that I cant find wikipedia pages for the majority of his stuff.

>> No.19312000

anglos who haven't read anything by this guy and never will and who don't even know spanish because they failed all their high school retard-tier mexican Spanish classes talking about the quality of his work, hilarious.

>> No.19312394

>>19310163
Any recommendations to start on his stuff? I have not really heard of him before, but skimming through his Wikipedia article has caught my interest.

>> No.19312771

>>19312394
Funteovejuna and El caballero de Olmedo are his better known works. I've read just a couple of his sonnets, but they have been all amazing. I don't know how easy he is to find English though. I get the impression that he is one of the lesser read Golden age playwrights and poets outside of the Hispanic world.
Writers like Gracián were loved by Schopenhauer and I think Nietzsche. Calderón was loved by the German romantics, Goethe and Pasternak. Even someone like Ruiz de Alarcón was important for French theatre through his influence on Corneille. Some writers of the period and from before even influenced Shakespeare. Lope de Vega seems to be mostly ignored outside the language (although apparently Goethe liked his work too).
Anyway, here's my favorite sonnet of his. The translation seems ok.
http://www.unsplendid.com/4-1/4-1_lopedevega_rimas_frames.htm

>> No.19313131

>>19311755
>much less Shakespeare tier
Most of Shakespeare work is mediocre. We have already discussed this 1000 times, Shakespeare is just anglo propaganda that got accelerated around the late XVIII century. Before that he was considered an equal (if not an inferior) writer to continental theater writter and writers like Calderon have a much more profound body of work than he does