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[Anonymous No.19296622]

Which Conan story has the most psychoanalytic monster in it?

[Anonymous No.19296643]

i wake up early and I would like to read after bfast but i hate sitting and staying still during this time of day. also standing up while reading is not really great if you want to take notes. what do?

[Anonymous No.19296652]

>>19296643
Listen to an audiobook while doing deep stretches and body weight exercises.

[Anonymous No.19298019]

>>19296622
>psychoanalytic monster
no such thing in any conan story I've read. they are just beasts for him to slaughter
I guess you could look for those featuring an evil wizard but even then these stories are refractary to nuance and subtely

[Anonymous No.19298061]

>>19296622
Like this?

[Anonymous No.19298113]

>>19296622
The Tower of the Elephant.

[Anonymous No.19298309]

>>19298019
The winged beast from Queen of the Black Coast seems to have sone kind of psychoanalytic theme about overcoming degeneration and spiritual decay, as the beast is the last survivor of an ancient lost winged super race that once built the great cuty whos ruins they were fighting in but devolved over time

[Anonymous No.19298445]

C'mon, there has to be some kind of hidden psychoanalytic symbolism in Conans constant fights against beastial man apes

[Anonymous No.19298451]

you posted it already. the apeman from rogues in the house.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19298517]

>>19298445
Fear of the ugly other. It’s anti-Gilgamesh/Enkidu and very American racist in origin.
He always seems to be defending his mating rights with the barley dressed Playboy bunny. But bat gorillas would probably rather mate with female bat gorillas, wouldn’t they?
Fear, blind fear.

[Anonymous No.19298620]

>>19298517
Yes, its a Darwinian struggle against the subhumanity of dark races. Its fantasy derived from colonial era Naturalism

[Anonymous No.19298683]

Having psychoanalytical dreams with primitive creatures are always the most interesting.

[Anonymous No.19298771]

>>19298061
This is clearly Conan fighting against his repressed homosexuality and desire to ride cock

[Anonymous No.19300370]

Its all rape centric

[Anonymous No.19301804]

>>19298517
Butters, you sound like you haven't read the stories but got the "plot" from Frazetta paintings...

>>19298620
Conan is also dark/swarthy as well.

If anything, it's the opposite. Conan stories champion barbarism against culture and civilization.

>Barbarianism is the natural state of mankind. Civilization is unnatural. It is the whim of circumstance. And barbarianism must ultimately triumph.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.19301820]

>>19301804
I was literally talking about the images here and that post. Giving a surface level analysis of just that.

[Anonymous No.19301998]

>>19301804
Nah, its based on race, REH its subtle about this. Conan is a barbarian but he is a blue eyed white man. Heres a section from Beyond the Black River, when Conan was a forest runner on the furthest edge of the Aquilonian frontier fighting the tribal Picts and the demon their leader had summoned to collect the heads of the men from the fort

>As he spoke Conan was busy at the edge of the trail with his ax. With a few strokes he cut a pair of saplings nine or ten feet long, and denuded them of their branches. Then he cut a length from a serpent-like vine that crawled among the bushes near by, and making one end fast to one of the poles, a couple of feet from the end, whipped the vine over the other sapling and interlaced it back and forth. In a few moments he had a crude but strong litter.

>'The demon isn't going to get Tiberias' head if I can help it,' he growled. 'We'll carry the body into the fort. It isn't more than three miles. I never liked the fat fool, but we can't have Pictish devils making so cursed free with white men's heads.'

>The Picts were a white race, though swarthy, but the border men never spoke of them as such.

[Anonymous No.19302002]

>>19301820
You unironically got it right from those images, which I think lends itself to how effective and natural REHs grasp of fantasy archetypes is, even through other peoples artistic interpretations of them

[Anonymous No.19302024]

>>19301998
>Beyond the Black River
that story is just Redskins vs Cowboys in fantasy setting.
And joke's on you, Picts were REH's favorite race. Bran Mak Morn series tells their story.

[Anonymous No.19302052]

>>19296622
None, because that's not the point of Conan stories.

[Anonymous No.19302054]

>>19302024
Its also one of his best stories and my personal favorite of his. Its especially ominous when you've read his essay on the Hyborian Age and know that Aquilonia is ultimately overrun and destroyed by the Picts in the end.

Still, the symbolic impression you get from these images of Conan battling the Picts is the white man battling endless hordes of primal subhumanity in a very colonial white mans burden social darwinist fashion

[Anonymous No.19302056]

>>19302054

[Anonymous No.19302108]

>>19302052
Psychoanalysis is applied to things that werent created with that concept in mind in irder to derive the latent psychoanalytic currents running through and around it, just likes Gnostics with sacred texts