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>1. When you find yourself, in a morning, averse to rise, have this thought at hand: I arise to the proper business of a man: And shall I be averse to set about that work for which I was born, and for which I was brought into the universe?

right emperor marcus, because your hard days of being fed grapes by concubines is comparable to be screamed at by karens and boomers at walmart

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>>19290055
>screamed at by karens and boomers at walmart
>First World problems
I sympathize though, living in this capitalist dystopia

>> No.19290085

>>19290055
it was his diary bro, it wasn't aimed at plebs. i don't know if this is actually a common misconception or if you guys just enjoy this stank bait.

>> No.19290093

>>19290055
this has to be bait.
no one could be this stupid and still be able to work a keyboard

>> No.19290107

>>19290093
He's right

>> No.19290141

>>19290107
No he's not. How is some no-skill job comparable to being a ruler and military leader.

>> No.19290143

>>19290078
the fact there are 3rd worlders that have to wake up and not be eaten by lions makes it even more condescending
its almost equivalent to those "fantasize being a millionaire, and it'll eventually happen!" books

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>right emperor marcus, because your hard days of being fed grapes by concubines is comparable to be screamed at by karens and boomers at walmart

>> No.19290147

>>19290141
this has to be bait.
no one could be this stupid and still be able to work a keyboard

>> No.19290148

>>19290143
your mind on amerimutt-inspired slave brain

he is speaking of greater things that you apparently can't even comprehend.

>> No.19290153

>>19290148
>he is speaking of greater things that you apparently can't even comprehend.
by this, you should mean he was the most powerful man in the world and out of touch with the actual reasons that people dont want to get out of bed in the morning

>> No.19290300

This man had more responsibilities on his ass than you could understand

>> No.19290306

>>19290300
Do I want to fuck my slaveboys in the mouth or the ass today?

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>>19290107

>> No.19290324

>>19290306
>t.clearlydoesn'tknowanythingaboutbasedMarcusAurelius

>> No.19290333

>>19290078
Having middle class wealth is actually better in the third world. I've lived with family for awhile in a third world country. They had a farm, workers, maids, a big house, etc. In the US, they live like the average American.

>> No.19290342

>>19290153
he was talking about why the fuck an emperor should even get out of bed in the morning you cerebrally poisoned fuck.

>heh, if i was an emperor who could eat grapes, i would never have an ounce of introspection and never read philosophy or give a hoot about the million fags trying to stab me in the back or the intrigue and failures of being a politician or care about anything, i would just be a chad who thought things like "live laugh love" all day and get on my sigma grindset

the fact that an emperor will never face the horrific suffering of the peasants is immaterial. there are a million and one ways to fuck yourself over and end up doing something retarded or becoming a nihilist even if you are well off, he does not concern himself with other people in his diary because again it is his fucking diary.

>> No.19290523

>>19290085
I think this is a common misconception. People don't realize he was writing this for himself.

>> No.19290553

>>19290055
Yeah your life is much harder than emperor who must lead armies and courde through cutthroat politics

>> No.19290557

>>19290342
lmao based reply

>> No.19290816

>>19290342
He fucked himself over for being the emperor of now a dead civilization. All his efforts were lost in the gutters of time.

>> No.19290830

>>19290816
he's living rent free in your head 2000 years later

>> No.19290833

>>19290055
Remember that he wrote this only for himself and possibly his heir
Which yes is exactly why you shouldn't take it much it to heart
People who take this book so seriously basing their whole life around it really just want to larp as an ancient Roman king

>> No.19290860

>>19290830
No I have just read this quote.

>> No.19290958

>>19290860
And what will people read of you in 2000 years.

>> No.19290963

>>19290958
this is such a retarded NPC way of arguing.
>you can't criticize anything unless your merit is equal to what you're criticizing

>> No.19290977

>>19290963
You said all his efforts were lost to the gutter of time. You then said you read his quote. I am not trying to say that you can't criticise, but you should at least be aware of your previous shitposts.

>> No.19290992

>>19290977
I am not the guy you were talking to

>> No.19291834

>>19290816
He was doing exactly as he ought to
>Soon you'll be ashes, or bones. A mere name, at most - and even that is just a sound, an echo. The things we want in life are empty, stale, and trivial. Why are you still here? Sensory objects are sifting and unstable, our senses dim and easily deceived the soul itself, a decoction of the blood; fame in a world like this is worthless. - And so? Wait for it patiently - annihilation or metamorphosis. - And until that time comes - what? Honour and revere the gods, treat human beings as they deserve, be tolerant with others and strict with yourself. Remember, nothing belongs to you but your flesh and blood - and nothing else is under your control.

>> No.19291849

>>19290055
These Aurelius threads are funny OP, at first I thought 'Oh god, this retard again', but shitposting itself is an art to be appreciated, so I look forward to more of your work

>> No.19291861

>>19290078
>posted from my iphone
I hate women so much it's unreal

>> No.19291965

>>19290958
Doesn't matter when I will be dead.

>>19291834
Emperor was right. But so were Epicureans.

>> No.19291992

>>19290055
out of his 5 kids, 4 died, and if screwed things up he would end up assassinated, and risked such even if he did ok.

Your vision of Roman Emperors living in paradise really shows you should learn more about history.

>> No.19292151

>>19291861
I also have a refrigerator. Can’t talk about class warfare now, hu?
Idiot

>> No.19292178

>>19292151
No, I just think all apple users are retarded and they should be executed. It has nothing to do with your political opinions or the rest of your post.

>> No.19292203

>>19291965
>Emperor was right. But so were Epicureans.
The ethics are very similar, just with the cart and horse flipped. The Stoics thought that happiness was a byproduct of virtue, but that virtue was the end goal. The Epicureans thought that happiness was the end goal and that virtue was the best way to get it. Most Roman criticism of Epicureanism was due to hedonists claiming to be Epicurean while practicing the sort of hedonism that Epicurus himself opposed, hence Seneca denouncing Epicureans while praising Epicurus. Stoicism and Epicureanism of course had very different metaphysics, but who the fuck cares if it doesn't matter anyway.

>> No.19292207

>>19290055
you should write a novel

>> No.19292222

>>19292203
Seneca had a thing for Epicurus?

>> No.19292225

>>19292178
Could’ve just said
>I am a brand whore
And be done with it.

>> No.19292304

>>19292222
yes. In Letters to Lucillius he quotes Epicurus repeatedly, in fact he's almost the only person he quotes.

>> No.19292368

>>19292304
Well, that makes sense. Epicureanism isn't entirely incompatible with Stoicism. They are merely different roads to the same destination.

>> No.19292391

>>19292368
Often the same road too