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Any books exploring anime from a Christian spiritual perspective?
I'm interesting in what would Seraphim Rose say about anime and other such phenomena.

>> No.19274399

The Invention of Religion in Japan

>> No.19274405

>>19274367
Some time ago I got interested in the history of Japan and it's the most utterly retarded shit I've ever seen. Their history and culture is filled with lies and stupidity. Just see the consequences today, in this all atheistic country with damn work culture, one of the worst education in the whole world (even some African shitholes teach the kids more), idiotic system where you could end up job- and homeless in a day. This country is fucked up. I hate weebs so much it's unreal.

>> No.19274411

>>19274405
b-b-but the jew fears the samurai!

>> No.19274428

>>19274405
Suggested reading? I'm interested in everything you said, even the employment system today. It can't be worse than South Korea

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>>19274405
>tfw

i feel sorry for the japanese. i hope that they can fix things for the better this century.

>> No.19274460

>>19274405
>one of the worst education in the whole world (even some African shitholes teach the kids more)
What? I heard they have a very demanding curriculum and kids are expected to excel or drown

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>>19274367
I think some anime can teach us good, but most of them are a mixture of gnosticism with vague Christian ideas.

>> No.19274635

>>19274367
Are you people retarded or what? I was in Japan as a student for a year and it was the most functional, orderly, polite, clean and relatively safe country I have experienced. Even though it's been economically stagnant for the past 20-30 years, it is still better than 90% of the rest of the world. It's like like former weebs and now turned Ortholarpers, TradCaths and born-agains have a particular hatred for their old hobby. Seems pretty stupid to me, considering most Orthodox countries are post-soviet Stalker nightmares, with a mafia like money-grubbing Church, most Catholic countries are extremely violent and corrupt, and protestant nations are thoroughly secularized.
>Their history and culture is filled with lies and stupidity.
What nation isn't like this? There is nothing peculiar about Japanese history or culture that stands out as any more stupid or false than any other nation. In fact, it is far more tame compared to the lunacies and mass hysterias that occured in Chinese, Medieval European, and Meso-American history.

>> No.19274649

>>19274367
Fiction: Silence & Foreign studies, both by Shusaku Endo.
Non fiction: Christ's Samurai: The True Story of the Shimabara Rebellion
I'm so tired of Japan, I want to eat a good honest to God asado.

>> No.19274660

>>19274635
>I was in Japan as a student for a year and it was the most functional, orderly, polite, clean and relatively safe country I have experienced
I guess if everyone thought their serfdom slavery was a form of traditional honour it would be pretty orderly huh. Minus you know the suicide rate, the declining birth rate and the economic stagnation you mentioned. It's almost like Japan is a dying country and they will go extinct before the end of the century. But atleast they're better then every other christian country

>> No.19274708

>>19274660
honour meme aside, yes, things are bound to be more orderly when people have a stable job they can expect to support them for life and are treated with dignity for doing it. if that culture is on its way out, the problem is not japan but its westernisation.

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>>19274405

>> No.19274732

>>19274660
they have about the same suicide rate as USA and their birth rate is comparable to most european countries. Economic stagnation is also preferable to demographic replacement. Stop falling for the memes

>> No.19274746

>>19274732
>they have about the same suicide rate as USA
Yet America has 3x the population count and isn't most of Japans population over the age of 50? It's an unsustainable decline added by it's self destructive culture.
>Economic stagnation is also preferable to demographic replacement
Lmao. Soon there won't be any population to replace. Besides aren't Japanese importing more people in then ever?

>> No.19274758

>>19274746
>America has 3x the population count
Japan has 9x the population density

>> No.19274768

>>19274758
>Japan has 9x the population density
Another reason why they would kill themselves. Thank you

>> No.19274774

>>19274746
well I thought it was obvious I was adjusting per population, but here you go
>US
>13.42 per 100,000 individuals
>Japan
>14.9 per 100,000 persons

And again, their demographic collapse is pretty much on the level of all developed countries
>japan
>1.36 births per woman
>italy
>1.27 births per woman
>spain
>1.24 births per woman
>germany
>1.54 births per woman
>south korea (that one is pretty bad lol)
>0.92 births per woman

I dont know where people get the impression those problems are somehow much more exaggerated in japan than in literally any other comparable country

>> No.19274783

>>19274660
These problems afflicting Japan are not unique to it, it is the fate of all 'developed' capitalist countries. My country, Greece, has now an even lower birth rate than Japan, is a completely indebted slave state to the ECB and Germany (as most southern european countries are), with no hope in hell of ever repaying it. What is more my country has almost no industry, and produces nothing outside of agriculture. The consequence is that everything from social trust, to repairs has gone to and is going to shit. Northern European countries just boost their populations with third world immigration, something we are also doing now, but you already know the consequences of that. And everyone one see America is one catastrophe away from complete social breakdown. My point is the relative unity of the people, their work ethic and their economy, mean that they are in a better position that most to handle financial catastrophe and set backs moving into the future.

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>>19274774
>One extra person dies per 100,00 in Japan
I'm still right, how does it feel to be wrong weeb?

>> No.19275303
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Is anime evil?

>> No.19275312

A nip told me once that japs see Christianity as you see greek/nordic mythology, they think of it as fantasy but think it's really cool.
>>19274405
The work culture was the only option Japan had left.
They have no natural resources, so their only ways to keep a stable income is to make sure they work everyone to death.
>>19274460
I assume this is what that anon meant.
A child shouldn't have the coherence of an office worker.

>> No.19275414

>>19274635
>I was in Japan as a student for a year
lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtdupS0gRt0

>> No.19275425

>>19275303
Anime is the non pornographic through the lens of pornography (except when it's actually pornographic, then it's just pornography). Everything in anime is processed through the mindset of someone who's shooting a porno. Just think about it.

>> No.19275430

>>19275414
Isn't this literally like the Amazon bugboxes? Imagine this happened in the US.

>> No.19275451

>>19275312
>japs see Christianity as you see greek/nordic mythology
Yet they still mainly perform Christian weddings

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thankfully very little, they nipped it in the bud and didn't let it destroy their traditional beliefs and mythis like euros did

>> No.19275457

>>19275430
Yeah but that video is from 7 years ago and people were still utterly horrified when the bugboxes were announced. AFAIK Amazon took down the announcements because it got so much backlash. Not that it means anything, in practice Amazon will do whatever the fuck it wants and we're all diving into a dystopia, but Japan and Asian culture in general is several years ahead on the path we're headed to these days. The zero trust, zero sincere emotions culture of zoomers is very similar to that of Asians who are constantly afraid of being backstabbed.

>> No.19275463

>>19275456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5bVWzTyJ7E

>> No.19275465

>>19274367
Test

>> No.19275481

>>19275463
saw that years ago
5/10

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>>19275456
>Japan
>traditional beliefs and mythis

>> No.19275509

>>19275451
Yet Christians still perform mainly pagan holidays

>> No.19275516

>>19274367
In Search of Japan's Hidden Christians

>> No.19275771
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>>19275490
they know their traditional beliefs and religions, unlike Europe where christianity destroyed every native European religion and their associated traditions and practices

>> No.19275777

christ's samurai is a really good book you should read.

>> No.19275790

>>19275771
(And that's a good thing)

>> No.19275803

>>19275451
Western* weddings. These weddings have nothing to do with the marital traditions of the Levant or Ethiopia. They're used as an atheistic alternative to Shinto or Buddhist marital traditions.

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Imagine what it would be like if American Freemasonry had not nuked Japan's two largest Catholic cities, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

>> No.19275870

>>19275790
oi vey you will worship our rabbi goyim!

>> No.19275874

Books on Christianity, Buddhism, Shinto, and general anti-nihilism in relation to shonenshit?

>> No.19275904

>>19275771
Catholicism enhances the good in a culture and discards the bad, things like human sacrifice, cannibalism, and pagan god worship.

>> No.19275960

>>19274437
>their main export is Cheese Pizza
I doubt it

>> No.19275990

>>19275904
>human sacrifice
getting rid of the mentally and physically disabled and the criminals is generally good for a society
>cannibalism
Nice lie
>and pagan god worship.
yes yes white peoples gods are bad only the jewish one is good... It's all so tiresome

>> No.19276002

>>19275853
>imagine if the freemasons and jews had gotten what they'd wanted and had turned japan into asian brazil
It would be Asian Brazil, anon. The entire reason that Kyoto and Hiroshima were chosen was to eradicate Japanese culture and language by destroying the center of Japanese civilization as a preface to importing mass amounts of third worlders. The bomb meant for Nagasaki was diverted by an Anti-Semite who didn't want to see his honeymoon's location destroyed.

>> No.19276011

>>19275904
>human sacrifice
not in europe, although ironically the torah endorses this

>cannibalism
not in europe

>> No.19276015

>>19274367
I used to respect Japan and Chinese cultural legacies until I saw one Japanese movie last night. I've watched a lot of art-house films and more around this world, but this movie absolutely revolted me. It did so in a manner that reflected their deeper cultural problems and depravity.
The film momentarily made me appreciate all Westerners, Latin Americans, Middle Easterners, and much more for a brief moment while I desired the ethnic cleansing and torture of all East Asians. I felt immense hatred in this brief flash, a desire for a massive wall between the West and East. I ceased seeing Easterners as humans for this moment.
I believe all East Asians, with their beady slitty eyes, have a natural proclivity towards cannibalism. It is in their blood. An East Asian believes that by cannibalizing their loved ones, a part of their loved one's essence is imbibed. I've seen it in Vietnamese picture books. I've seen it in Japanese films... I've seen it in Chinese webcams.
I hate East Asians. I do not consider them human beings.

>> No.19276022

>>19274635
Yeah catholic countries are like that because genuine catholics don't rule anymore. The consequences from the independence wars from Spain and the dissolution of the Spanish viceroy system have been a disaster for Latin America.

>> No.19276028

>>19276015
Tetsuo the Iron Man?

>> No.19276032

>>19276028
No.

>> No.19276075

>>19276011
Norse people sacrificed their children to the god Thor. And the Spartans and Romans killed handicapped babies.

>although ironically the torah endorses this
Where?

>> No.19276095

>>19276032
then whats the movie

>> No.19276103

>>19276095
I think edgelord zoomers have brain problems, so it's a waste of time to mention it. You'd probably think it's based.

>> No.19276116

>>19274660
> the suicide rate, the declining birth rate and the economic stagnation
>Japan is a dying country and they will go extinct before the end of the century
Same for Russia, except it's way worse.

>> No.19276146

>>19276103
Then why even mention it retard. Couldn't possibly be worse than the Rape of Nanjing which Japan still denies today.

>> No.19276166

>>19276146
The idea that cannibalizing your loved ones makes them immortal is disgusting, but I have a feeling mentally ill zoomer trash would be more open to it.

>> No.19276223

>>19276166
They aren't even open to basic self defense why would they want to become cannibals

>> No.19276231

>>19275303
You seem to have been more than a little engaged with it, you tell us.
>>19275425
I've thought along those lines before and it does describe a decent amount of what they produce. That being the case I still would not say that everything anime or anime-adjacent is quite so brazen.

>> No.19276233

>>19276223
It was an unexpected plot twist in the movie that disgusted me.

>> No.19276275
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>>19274405
I like it. It seems like they have a real sense of self and a level of satisfaction and a lack of resentment. Yah, work culture hard, but would you prefer a hard work culture where people often give their all and have a spirit of respect and pride and self actualization, or the morose and self pity and wallowing if the west?

At least there is some spirit there even if veiled by layers of propriety rather than the fake “sincerity” of the west. Do you want them to have the malaise we have? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

>> No.19276294

>>19276275
>a real sense of self
I don't think the Japanese have a refined sense of self the way Europeans do. Japanese don't even seem to have complex internal monologues and instead think in images. For example, most of the time when Japanese try to write about complex morally ambiguous situations, they fail. Japanese are better at writing simple stories that have traditional atmospheres.
They're bug people too to a large extent. Most of what they do just involves saving face too, so they're very easy to predict. I suspect their crime rate is much higher than what the authorities say.

>> No.19276545

>>19276294
Regardless, do you find it a more pitiable state? Or is the west more sublime? I absolutely agree that the west in more “conceptually advanced” But I don’t think that means much outside of high academia and tends to just mask vapidity in the general populous as something greater than it is and reduces things to a resentful malaise rather than having a simple and more honest and accepting nature to its vapidity.

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>> No.19276733

>>19274367
my diary, desu

>> No.19276926

>>19275451
>perform
>dressing in a style
lmao

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>>19276002
It's ironic that Japan has sent several of its citizens to Brazil because of overpopulation, and will now have to do the opposite because of the low birth rate.

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>>19274405
>even some African shitholes teach the kids more

>> No.19277239

>>19276075
>Norse people sacrificed their children to the god Thor.
No they didn't.

>And the Spartans and Romans killed handicapped babies.
By this logic everyone that was ever hanged in Christian Europe was a human sacrifice.

>Where?
Leviticus 27:28-29, 2 Samuel, literally anything involving the Hill of God, Jepthah's daughter, the entirety of Jericho, Achan, Achan's family, 1 Samuel 14, Amalek himself, Amalek's family, the Amalekites as a whole, the Moabites, Numbers 31, Psalm 37, Deuteronomy. Leviticus 17 can also extend this to every single drop of blood a Jew ever spills, as Yahweh demands that the Jews give him blood (human or otherwise) to sustain himself off of.

>> No.19277409

>>19276002
>The bomb meant for Nagasaki was diverted by an Anti-Semite who didn't want to see his honeymoon's location destroyed.
MacArthur was a Weeaboo and knew Kyotos importance

>> No.19277420

>>19276166
Christians would prob be okay with it, who wrote it?

>> No.19277476

>>19276002
>The entire reason that Kyoto and Hiroshima were chosen was to eradicate Japanese culture and language by destroying the center of Japanese civilization as a preface to importing mass amounts of third worlders.
We really were the Great Satan the whole time, weren't we?

>> No.19277787

>>19274428
You think that poster reads books?

>> No.19278298

>>19275771
japanese religion has huge chinese and indian influences. what do you mean native. shinto wasn't even used as a term until the past few hundred years as a reaction to modernization. there is no dichotomy of foreign vs native like neo pagans make it out to be

>> No.19278316

>>19274725
They're getting lazy and asking for more gibs while becoming old and child-less.

>> No.19278411

>>19278298
>hurf durf japan has always been a country of immigrants durrrrr
That was always the problem with the old "Asian for Asians, Africa for Africans..." copypasta: no, actually, the kikes don't think that Asian belongs to Asians, or that Africa belongs to Africans. Go dilate, tranny.

>> No.19278540

>>19274485
does anyone have more of these akko reading memes. I literally got memed into watching the show because of all the memes.

>> No.19278947

>>19276637
Is this a form of blasphemy? I can't tell, genuinely. I think it shouldn't be.

>> No.19278957

>>19277184
>USA
>Turkey
>China
>Japan
>Iran
I see most of the greatest nations don't have primary gendered languages.

>> No.19279732

>>19274367
Is there any anime with Christian themes and ideas? Genuinely Christian, not just gnostic stuff.

>> No.19280221

>>19279732
I don't know but there's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD_V70H9VRo

>> No.19280339

>>19276294
Do you think the Chinese have a more or less developed "sense of self" than the Japanese?

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>>19274367
SaintOnii-san