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What's the point of reading if you can never beat this guy?

>According to Peek's father, Fran (Francis) Peek, Kim was able to memorize things from the age of 16–20 months. He read books, memorized them, and then placed them upside down on the shelf to show that he had finished reading them, a practice he maintained all his life. He could speed through a book in about an hour and remember almost everything he had read, memorizing vast amounts of information in subjects ranging from history and literature, geography and numbers to sports, music and dates. Peek read by scanning the left page with his left eye, while reading the right page with his right eye. According to an article in The Times newspaper, he could accurately recall the contents of at least 12,000 books.

>> No.19267818

>>19267791
has he ever written anything of any literary significance? if he can't create anything then what does it matter how many books he read?

>> No.19267833

>>19267818
Have you written anything of literary significance?

>> No.19267836

>>19267818
FPBP.
It's just Amerimutt autism to give a shit about this retarded crap.

>> No.19267839

>>19267791
don't care he's probably never fucked before

>> No.19267843

>>19267839
I bet he has fucked

>> No.19267847

>>19267836
Mad cause low iq

>> No.19267852

>>19267833
Obviously not, but neither has he.

>> No.19267853

>>19267847
My IQ is around 123.

>> No.19267864

>>19267853
>>19267847
His IQ was 87. It doesn't mean shit.

>> No.19267866

>>19267853
That's pretty low

>> No.19267877

>>19267843
I wonder what he does while fucking

>> No.19267879

>>19267877
Reads

>> No.19267906

>>19267833
Anon, your question responds to absolutely nothing that I said there. Not one thing. Also the fact that I've ostensibly read NOTHING and I'm still on the same level as this guy that has read "at least 12,000 books" should tell you something

>> No.19267921

>>19267866
Anything above 115 is good enough.

>> No.19267926

>>19267921
There is no real difference between 105 and 125

>> No.19267940

>>19267926
115 is one standard deviation above the average. It is good enough. Anything 10-15 points above the average is sufficient for most mentally demanding tasks.
Abstract reasoning is over-prioritized in modern society. There are philosophical arguments as to why being prideful in intelligence can cause certain issues.

>> No.19267978

>>19267921
>>19267940
This is some mega cope lmao. I honestly don’t think you are even fully human if your IQ is below 130.

>> No.19267979

>>19267791
Do you read to be a better person or to feel superior to others? The accumulation of knowledge in itself does not lead us to wisdom, but rather our virtuous conduct in relation to what we learn. “And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing” (1 Cor. 13,2).

>> No.19267984

>>19267978
If your IQ is above 130 why do you talk like that

>> No.19267986

>>19267978
>Feynman received the highest score in the United States by a large margin on the notoriously difficult Putnam mathematics competition exam ... He also had the highest scores on record on the math/physics graduate admission exams at Princeton
>Upon starting high school, Feynman was quickly promoted to a higher math class. An IQ test administered in high school estimated his IQ at 125—high but "merely respectable", according to biographer James Gleick.[21][22]

>> No.19267994

>>19267978
Having a high IQ is simply about having more computational power. That is, you can learn complex topics more efficiently. It's like the difference between O(n) and O(logn). It seems to be more about speed and the need for less repetition when learning. I am pretty sure there are even people with 94 IQ that are smarter than you given they have spent more time studying.

>> No.19268010

>>19267986
It was a high school IQ test which was likely just a poorly designed IQ test that was mostly about verbal IQ. You don't have the highest scores on the most difficult exams in the countries while having only a 125 IQ.

>> No.19268019

>>19268010
Math is just about memorizing theorems and then implementing them. You can spend hours practicing the memorization and implementation of theorems and then ace the exams. Even proofs follow a certain pattern that don't necessarily require rigorous critical thinking. You can just memorize their syntax and plop it down.

>> No.19268024

>>19268019
>follow a certain pattern
follow a certain syntactical pattern*

>> No.19268027

>>19268019
Alright so why aren't you in Princeton then?

>> No.19268028
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19268028

>>19268010
Or...you can just accept that IQ isn't really a relevant metric with regard individual achievement.

>> No.19268033

>>19267906
I'm not OP, but you're a fucking retard. When it comes to reading books and retaining information, you are not on the same level. That is the entire point.

>> No.19268038

>>19268028
Why would I accept that if his IQ was extremely high it's just his verbal IQ wasn't.

>> No.19268041

>>19268027
Many of the people in Ivy League schools are there due to nepotism. Moreover, a lot of it comes down to motivation. One can have high IQ but low motivation to study and learn, and thus, they could fail classes by not taking the time to learn and consolidate the mental templates being taught/indoctrinated by the teachers.

>> No.19268044

>>19268019
Implementations of theorems is the tricky part. I would have thought that it requires some pretty intense creativity.

>> No.19268045

>>19268027
Because he didn't want to bother memorizing enough theorems to make it there? What's with this retardation

>> No.19268047

>>19268044
Implementation of theorems requires practice. Higher IQ people require less practice relative to those with lower IQ. Regardless, the lower IQ can compensate by practicing more than average.
You place too much value on intelligence, which is an impermanent cognitive faculty.

>> No.19268049

>>19268041
It's not about getting into Princeton it's about having the highest scores in Princeton's history. Higher than all the Asian autismos you can think of. It's about being a Putnam fellow

>> No.19268050

>>19268033
Not that anon, but what does retaining information do for me, exactly? If I can't "do" anything with the fatberg of information I have at my disposal, it's just trivia (no use-utility).

>> No.19268053

>>19268045
Why wouldn't you? You don't want to be rich and well educated? What do you do with your life? Are you an expert in anything?

>> No.19268057

>>19268049
I would suspect he practiced a lot given he enjoys math unlike many others. Imagine if you practiced math instead of reading literature, watching film, doing sports, or playing games? The time spent on the math would in all likelihood lead to better performance on standardized tests.
A better question is why place so much value on it?

>> No.19268059

>>19268057
>The time spent on*
The extra time spent on*

>> No.19268061

>>19268057
His friends at the same said he never practiced for the exam and took it on short notice.

>I would suspect he practiced a
I'm 122 IQ. I can practice all I want at a subject I will never get the highest scores in a college's history and you won't either.

>> No.19268070

>>19268061
That's some heady biological essentialism. Are you an adolescent?

>> No.19268078

>>19268070
Are you trans?

>> No.19268079

>>19268061
>His friends at the same said he never practiced for the exam and took it on short notice.
He most likely did practice, but not as much as his peers given higher intelligence and perhaps memorization skills.
>I can practice all I want at a subject I will never get the highest scores in a college's history and you won't either.
It's more that I have no motivation to do so because I do not see the intrinsic value in it. Most world traditions and mysticism around the world do not place such high value in the discursive mind as you do. The discursive mind has its uses, but you place too much value on it due to contemporary scientism. I do not view mankind's advancements in the sciences as necessarily a good thing either.
I think having good values and honest intentions in life is more important than being an autist about abstract reasoning skills. It is debatable whether high abstract reasoning skills even necessarily lead one to the true nature of reality.

>> No.19268082

>>19268078
Not yet, give me a decade.

>> No.19268084

>>19268079
Do you have no hobbies at all? No intellectual aspirations? Do you have a mental illness or bad upbringing?

>> No.19268085

>>19268010
>You don't have the highest scores on the most difficult exams in the countries while having only a 125 IQ.
This is begging the question. Yes, you do, because he did. You have a cognitive bias that is causing you to reject the literal facts of the matter

>>19268061
You aren't supposed to practice for an iq test... so short notice would not matter... and almost nobody else does either and your score is relative to those people... anon...

>> No.19268086

>>19268082
I knew it

>> No.19268094

>>19268085
>Yes, you do, because he did
Do you think a random high school IQ test from the 1930's is reliable?
>You aren't supposed to practice for an iq test.
We're talking about Princeton exams retard

>> No.19268096

>>19268084
These questions have nothing to do about my personal hobbies or intellectual aspirations in life. I am curious as to why you would bring it up.

>> No.19268101

>>19268096
So you no have aspirations. Do you have ADHD or something?

>> No.19268113

>>19268101
What made you infer I have no aspirations? I have three main aspirations in life. One of them has failed due to globohomo.

>> No.19268115

>>19268113
Why can't you tell me them?

>> No.19268121

If you are reading this shit thread, read Funes el Memorioso instead.

>> No.19268126

>>19267853
my condolences but being a 159 iq schizoid isnt doing me any favors

>> No.19268142

The brain is structurally capable of a lot of things that we never achieve because over the years it is molded by a principle of practicality and economy instead of optimizing cognitive function. More interesting than savants are historical experiments of people who were consciously raised to make full use of their faculties from day one and ended up with much higher mental abilities as well. We're basically all born with the plasticity and circuitry necessary to be like that guy (without the deficiencies), but your brain gradually got rid of all of it because the inputs you received in your formative years never made them useful.

What I'm saying is, you might never beat this guy but your children might. Study so you can shape them to achieve their full potential.

>> No.19268147

>>19268115
1. I want to publish horror and children's literature and then write a philosophical treatise promoting Zoroastrian and dualistic mysticism. I was planning to become a more dualistic version of Schopenhauer (who is more monist).
I was able to publish one short horror story in a reputable literary journal, but I have had no luck with my picture book because most agents ask for LGBTQ+ themes and inclusive diversity. I am influenced more by Golden Age of Illustrators such as Molly Brett and Alfred Bestall.

2. I want to half-ass and get by my data science profession. I am actually a very incompetent coder who copies and pastes most code online. This is because I got burned out from my first STEM degree in Neuroscience. Afterwards, I went back for Computer Science for better job opportunities. In retrospect, that may have been a mistake. Electrical Engineering would have turned out better.
I hate anyone who takes pride in abstract reasoning skills.

3. I would like to become a wildlife rehabilitator focusing on corvids. I was inspired by various documentaries on corvids I watched. I also enjoyed Saving Jemima by Julie Zickefoose.
I actually was very interested in marine ecology when I was younger and got my scuba diving license. However, I dropped that due to developing kyphosis and, thereby, developed a deeper appreciation for birds. I have no health problems outside of kyphosis because I watch my diet (e.g., always taking krill oil, GTF Chromium, vitamin D+K2, and so forth). In fact, I am currently doing a detox with green black walnut tincture, wormwood, and cloves.

>> No.19268155

>>19268147
Thanks for the post and no offense but are you on the spectrum?

>> No.19268173

>>19268155
Many wise people come off as being a bit on the spectrum. You can't really be wise and follow what the average people do unquestioningly. For example, the jab is obviously bad for you, so it's good to be a bit atypical and not get it.

>> No.19268176

>>19268147
>worm detox protocol
This must be a joke.

>> No.19268179

>>19268019
>Even proofs follow a certain pattern that don't necessarily require rigorous critical thinking. You can just memorize their syntax and plop it down.
Not true. What the specific proof technique you need to implement is is not very clear or set in stone. You often need to have a prior intuition and then carry the intuition out in mathematical form.

>> No.19268184

>>19268019
>Math is just about memorizing theorems and then implementing them.
Implementation requires great understanding of the theorems, not just memorization.

>> No.19268188
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19268188

>>19268176
Worms are common because many people eat poorly grown foods, factory farmed fish or animals, let pets roam outside and then contract eggs from them, and so forth. A detox regiment once a year may prove beneficial. However, candida is probably a bigger problem due to the overabundance of processed carbs.

>> No.19268196

>>19268047
Nope. There is a cognitive limit based on your intelligence when too many factors and variables are at play and you can not keep them all in your short term memory at once. This short term memory requirement of understanding certain ideals in full makes some people incapable of understanding some ideas, and this cannot just be overcome by practice.

>> No.19268201

>>19268049
It is because he was taught in childhood.

>> No.19268203

>>19268179
It's about storing various mental templates in one's mind and then deciding which one to implement. Such intuition can be developed with further practice. You are correct that it requires intuition to decide which proof technique to implement.
>>19268184
You understand the theorems, consolidate it in memory in the form of mental templates or representations, and then apply it depending on context. One can develop a method by which rote memorization is used with further practice, hence why computers are effective at such tasks.

>> No.19268213

>>19268196
Such short memory limitations seem rare among the populace. Proper nutrition (e.g., DHA, healthy biofilm, fat-soluble vitamin A, and so forth) can also be effective in increasing one's cognitive limit. The brain is more plastic than you make it out to be, but it is true there are certain genes that allow for a more plastic brain. There are also certain genes that increase critical period. Critical period lasts typically for most of adolescence, but for a few people it can go on longer.
If anything, the degree and duration of plasticity of the brain is more important than IQ.

>> No.19268218

>>19268213
>short memory
short term memory*
I also recommend looking into the case study of Clive Wearing, which is interesting.

>> No.19268224

>>19268213
>Such short memory limitations seem rare among the populace
I'm sorry but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about here. IQ is heavily associated with your short term memory capacity, to the point where there have been genuine discussions on whether to define intelligence as short term memory capacity.

>> No.19268253

>>19268224
Intelligence should be defined as the speed of taking salient declarative facts or mental templates and consolidating it into long-term memory. For example, I know people who have never learned to use basic software even after having it explained to them numerous time. That is an example of low intelligence. They act like each time they're using the software, they are encountering something new.

>> No.19268280

>>19268050
It helps you retain information, you can recall it better. That is it. That is the only thing being discussed. The recall IS the implementation, who gives a fuck if he can't write a book? Much less if the person criticizing him hasn't written one either?

The fact that you think information/recall has no "use-utility" is fucking ridiculous.

>> No.19268290

>>19267791
nobody on /lit/ actually reads, so of course they will not be impressed by this

>> No.19268408

>>19267791
this man is literally a retard, he just remembers everything like a brainless autistic computer