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>> No.19258147

Since this is October. You guys have any stories, either fantasy or science fiction, that has horror as it’s sub genre?

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Why did K. catch the knife?
”The old man’s left hand forsook his right sleeve, bearing a watery knife. And like a rope in water, his arm pitched outward, fingertips trailing across the blade as the knife swung languidly into the air, the sun skating and the dark shrine plunging across its mirror back . . . And the place where Kellhus had once existed extended an open hand—the blond hairs like luminous filaments against tanned skin—and grasped the knife from stunned space.”
What darkness was it that caused this “place called kellhus” to attempt to save itself. why was it not remarked upon? What was the purpose of the knife chuck?

>> No.19258155

>>19258152
I'm not sure if the Dunyain would consider the instinct for self-preservation to be a Darkness. They do eat, after all, and drink and piss and shit and fuck. Existence is... axiomatic, I guess. You need to survive before you can reach the Absolute.
This may have been the purpose behind the Pragma's knife throw. He had just clued Kellhus into the mysteries of Logos, showing him that all matters could/should be resolved through rational analysis. But that can't be all, can it? You can't turn into an autistic analytic engine, ignore the outside world and all its dangers, just run computations until you die of thirst. Or until someone chucks a knife at you.
By throwing the knife, the Pragma is checking if Kellhus's original training still holds (after being faced with the Logos). If it does, he should have no trouble catching the thing. But if it doesn't hold, if Logos has effectively broken him, than he's useless to the Dunyain and might as well die.

>> No.19258161

>>19258147
Blindsight is the first thing that comes to mind for scifi, genuinely creepy book.
The Fisherman veers into fantasy pretty hard. It's a horror book and there's one or two creepy moments.

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King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

>> No.19258171

>>19258161
> The Fisherman
It was recommended by an anon here, how is it for fantasy fans?

>> No.19258177

>>19258171
it becomes something like an adult harry potter around the halfway mark, but it isn't very extensive. i didn't expect it at all. it does have neat imaginative stuff but it's not going to scratch any high fantasy itch or anything

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Why haven't you read the top 3 /sffg/ authors yet?

>> No.19258179

>>19258177
by harry potter i mean there's a wizard duel

>> No.19258188

I stand with Golgotterath

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>>19258188
Bros...

>> No.19258196

>>19258178
Honesty i voted for Bakker on that poll and ive never read his books.

>> No.19258202

>>19258178
If we exclude the meme I have. Other is my favorite.

>> No.19258205

>>19258178
>Sanderson
Yikes!

>> No.19258251

>>19258195
>>19258188
HOW LONG HAVE YOU SERVED GOLGOTTERATH?

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Last night I ordered the cheapest copy I could find on Abebooks, to be honest I'm not into contemporary anglo writers, but I liked the cover.

>> No.19258256

>>19258178
>bakker
>erikson
>sanderson
Who?

>> No.19258261

>>19258256
>Not the first post in this thread.

>> No.19258277

>>19258147
Alien phalanx, it's an all in one.

>> No.19258281

>>19258188
At the end they were right

>> No.19258301

>>19258140
At least it's not animesperg again

>> No.19258302
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>>19258170
>Bakker

>> No.19258304

>>19258301
It's Euro hours.

>> No.19258319

I'm fairly new to Brain Sanderson's works and I've only just finished reading The Final Empire. I thought the plot dragged on for so long at some points. The pacing felt really off. Also I feel like he cant write romance for shit, the Elend-Vin relationship was so shit.
Is it worth continuing the series? I've heard that the second book is not that great but Hero of Ages makes it worth it. If its not worth continuing is "The Farseer" books worth a read?

>> No.19258325

>>19258319
*Brandon

>> No.19258332

>>19258319
sanderson's quality of writing is pretty consistent through most of his stuff, if you found mistborn offputting you probably won't get much from the rest of the series, or stormlight archive. not to say you shouldn't read them if you're interested, but don't expect a large jump in competence.

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>>19258302

>> No.19258339

If I start a drinking game and take a shot whenever Watts mentions saccades, how fast will I get shitfaced?

>> No.19258344

>>19258339
Not very quickly because you will browse 4chan instead of reading

>> No.19258346

>>19258332
I can digest everything but the romance. Does Stormlight Archive have romance? If not, I might check it out.

>> No.19258349

>>19258346
Worse. It has love triangles.

>> No.19258354

>>19258332
There are no qualities in Sanderson’s writing.

>> No.19258358

>>19258346
i only read the first book and i don't recall any, but i imagine it will yes

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>>19258332
>sanderson's quality of writing
This is what hardcore Sanderson fans think of him.

Pretty embarrassing desu.

>> No.19258376

>>19258354
>>19258367
i'm not arguing, i threw that shit out for a reason

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>>19258376
Are you this guy?

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>>19258335
What?

>> No.19258398

>>19258382
no

>> No.19258475

>>19258196
based

>> No.19258507

How the fuck am I supposed to read other fantasy after Bakker? It's fucking over, nothing will compare, all that's left is just re-reading Second Apocalypse for the rest of my life and waiting for No-God

>> No.19258531

>>19258507
I only come here to post Bakker desu.

>> No.19258576

Bros can you recommend some books with knights and dragons with a sense of adventure? Before you start shitting on me, I went through the recommendations and then I got overwhelmed and now I don't know what I want.

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>>19258576
Ignore the noise. This is one of the few worthwhile series you will ever get in the genre.

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>jets lost today… very sad don’t message me

>> No.19258751

>>19258301
The op is anime, you idiot.

>> No.19258767

>>19258170
>>19258302
and what has this bakker done?

>> No.19258794

>>19258767
He wrote.

>> No.19258815

>>19258302
>when his phallus curves all the way and touches the belly

>> No.19258827

>>19258582
What's the setting? I've heard that none of the characters in the book are likable and I'm not sure if that's something that'll bother me if I start reading it.

>> No.19258847

>>19258827
There are likable characters but they're all very flawed and nothing good happens to them. The setting is a sort of Mediterranean/Holy Roman Empire with wizards on a crusade against fantasy Islam, with the backstory of an ancient apocalyptic evil that ravaged the north that may threaten to return. It spends a lot of time on the religion and philosophy of these characters. Despite the shitposting here it's a legitimately good series.

>> No.19258870

>>19258827
Cnaiur is one of the most sympathetic characters I've seen in fiction. He goes through some painfully heartbreaking shit.

>> No.19258872

>>19258870
Is this a meme? Or did you just misspell Proyas?

>> No.19258893

>>19258872
Pretty much everyone in PoN gets a big helping of pure suffering, but at least Proyas ends up having his faith reaffirmed, while Cnaiur is buckbroken into fucking a monster tranny

>> No.19258906

>>19258893
Akka got a worse treatment than Cnaiur, just saying.

>> No.19258919

>one shot at life
>sffg dweller

>> No.19258971
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>>19258255
I got this for a fiver from a charity shop last week. Would you like to... maybe... read it together...? >///<
Only if you want to!

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>> No.19258984

>>19258140
All /sffg/fags must hang

>> No.19258995

>>19258973
Whoever did this should come forward for some changes.

>> No.19259097

>>19258973
Whoever did this should do one for straight and curved characters.

>> No.19259494

good morning i hate esmenet

>> No.19259497

>>19259494
The only one worthy of Salvation.

>> No.19259865

>downloaded the filter
>I only see one post
>its mine
yup, it's over

>> No.19259871

I used to be angry about the Bakkerites ruining this general. Now I just think about how their series will never conclude and the depressed canadian with a cuck fetish they idolize will quietly fade away to irrelevance within the decade.

>> No.19259897

I used to be angry about the Sandersois but then I ripped their books to shreds and ree'ed really hard until I felt better.

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>>19259871
The fact that he might never finish the series just means that we will never go away.

>> No.19259925

>>19258576
It's not exactly knights and dragons, but I think what you're really asking for is a traditional romantic feeling. Try The Worm Oroborous.

>> No.19259939

>>19258582
I started reading this and its pretty much the same thing as First Law and Way of Kings, which I also didn't like.

>> No.19259943

>>19259939
That's now how you bait.

>> No.19260014

>Incel wakes up
>Thread goes to shit

Simple as.

>> No.19260032

>>19259925
Thank you so much anon. This is exactly what I wanted.

>> No.19260044

>>19260032
How do you know if you haven't read it?

>> No.19260067

>>19260044
People here don't read.

>> No.19260075

>>19258582
based and bakkerpilled.

>> No.19260082
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>>19258906
Akka is a formulaic character. He's a classic archetype of misunderstood hero fighting against all odds to save the world that hates him. His anguish is mostly external - he suffers beatings, death of loved ones, torture, cuckoldry, every night he dreams of unspeakable horrors, his school is a laughingstock etc.
Cnaiurs anguish is entirely internal. If the books didn't provide his POV he would appear as a regular dumb barbarian with too much testosterone to stay calm. In reality he is a man who suffered at the hands of Dunyain bullshit magic not once, but twice, rejected by his own peoples, his persona a smoldering wreck of self-doubt, self-hatred, endless paranaoia and neurosis. He basically goes insane on a daily basis and then pulls himself back to functioning state by the sheer force of his penetrating intelligence.

>> No.19260095

>>19260082
I don't think that contemplating eternal damnation is necessarily an external anguish.

>> No.19260101

>>19260044
I have been for the last 30 minutes, the language is a bit archaic but I'm enjoying it nonetheless.

>> No.19260281

>>19260082
So much SOVL in Bakker's amateur artwork.

>> No.19260303

>>19260082
So much muscles and SOVL, look at that toned body.

>> No.19260321

Brapper

>> No.19260401

>>19260014
Leave the incel alone
he is not to blame for being a remarkable force of nature.

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A girl recommended this series to me, is it worth reading?

>> No.19260437

>>19260419
Depends. Is she hot?

>> No.19260441

>>19260437
I'm gay so I wouldn't know.

>> No.19260473

I liked Mistborn!

>> No.19260488

>>19260473
Me too. I marathoned the first trilogy in like two weeks.

>> No.19260493

>>19260419
Is this YA game of thrones?

>> No.19260508

Are there fantasy books unconcerned with worldbuilding? I mean the ones where the writer doesn't bother much or at all with geo-socio-cultural accounting and trusts his readers to fill in the blanks? I can only think of Clark Ashton Smith's stories, and Stephen King's Dark Tower.

>> No.19260526

>>19260419
how do I get a redheaded tight dressed goth gf

>> No.19260556

>>19260508
Uh pretty much most of them.

>> No.19260566

>>19260508
M. John Harrison is your man.

>> No.19260619

>>19260419
Absolutely!
One of the best series I've read. Curved phalluses galore.

>> No.19260661

>>19260419
a good book to read on the side while on a Bakker re read.

>> No.19260714

Are there any books that have male gay leads?

I mostly enjoy Sanderson.

>> No.19260749

>>19260714
Arcane Ascension is for you

>> No.19260836

Looking for something that goes against the usual story conventions, like the empire moping the floor with rebels with superior numbers and discipline, the corporation steamrolling the native population, the usurper cements his rule of the land and last true heir to the kingdom rots in the dungeon. Basically something where the "bad guys" win at the end.

>> No.19260896

>>19260836
The black company

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>>19260836

>> No.19260917

>>19260896
That sort of fits the bill but I finish the series last year.

>> No.19261003

Any reason I shouldn't get black sun rising?

>> No.19261010

>>19261003
I don't really care.

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>>19261010
Thanks for your contribution

>> No.19261024

>>19261016
No problem. Try asking a precise and substantial question next time.

>> No.19261028

>>19261024
Try killing yourself

>> No.19261255
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I'm on an Alien fix lately. Any good books about ayys just doing ayy stuff?

>> No.19261267

>>19261255
Roadside picnic isnt exactly Aaaays but has cool Alien concepts

>> No.19261275

>>19261255
Hypermodern Jazz 2000.5 is such a fucking sick album

>> No.19261278

>>19261024
based

>> No.19261540

Damn, the covers for the Malazan series are so ugly

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>>19261540
Referring to these? Yeah they're butt ugly. The old, painted covers were way better, and Gardens of the Moon's first cover was genuinely great.

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>>19261627
For reference, this was the original cover for Gardens of the Moon. Looks great. Pretty much every other cover for it is trash.

>> No.19261679

>>19261627
Yeah, those. That Memories of Ice one, holy shit.
>>19261645
That one actually looks great even, a shame it's pretty off-topic.

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>>19261679
The painted cover has more of that cheesy 90s vibe to it. Prefer it to the ugly as sin photo shop abominations we have now.

>> No.19261712

>>19261694
>photo shop abominations
That glint on the sword in The Bonehunters is the worst offender

>> No.19261720

>>19261712
As ugly as these are they're not even the worst lazy photoshop covers out there. It's just sad to see it happen to a series like Malazan. I wish Erickson had Sanderson's autism for sticking to painted covers. Why of all authors, is only Sanderson sticking to that convention?

>> No.19261734

>>19258188
The material world is an illusion. The Outside and the Hundred are also an illusion. They are not pure Forms. They are not the perfection of say mathematics. Thus if I lived in Erwa I would tell the sorcerers and Khellus himself that his entire purpose is pointless. The Gnostic school hasn't attained true Gnosis. If they did they would no longer fear Hell or the No God because they would know that these are all creations of Yaldaboath, the Demiurge.

>> No.19261771

>>19261720
Probably because he makes far more dough

>> No.19261868

I’m reading Book of the New Sun and it isn’t really clicking with me. How many chapters should I read before I can say it isn’t for me? Also what’s the appeal of this series besides the narrator being unreliable.
From the paragraph about the terraformed moon I can tell it’s a sci-if book about a post-collapse society

>> No.19261872

>>19258582
You will suck inchoroi cock, until its seed festers in your bowels like a cancer.

>> No.19261885

>>19261868
You kind of need to finish at least the second book before you can understand what makes it a great work. If it isn't interesting you then you're probably not going to pay enough attention to get the full payoff anyway, so perhaps try something else.

>> No.19261988

>>19260488
>>19260473
Couldn't get past the first hundred pages of the second mistborn. First one was all right

>> No.19262171 [DELETED] 

Why does Malazan gets so much hate here?

>> No.19262184

Why does Malazan get so much hate here?

>> No.19262185

>>19262171
Because it's really long, boring, and has zero payoff. At least for me, can't speak for everyone.

>> No.19262309

>>19261868
I'm finishing the first book and it seems to demand to be re-read. It's ending brings the earlier parts to context

>> No.19262451

>>19262184
Books that get hate, rather than well-articulated criticism, are targeted by pseuds, contrarians, and autists as easy shitposting targets because they are popular. Malazan is well liked and widely read on other sights, notably reddit, so naturally the contrarian crowd hates it.

>> No.19262459

>>19261771
Erickson makes more than enough to have painted covers and still publish his books in mass market paperback format, which many fantasy publishers won't do for less popular authors now, so he could easily afford painted covers if he really wanted them.

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Did I get memed into reading bakker? I just read darkness and just feels like tolkien but without the good prose but with the inclusion of sex and shitting scenes. I guess it's okay, but nothing groundbreaking. Is it just not realistic to expect anything even coming close to tolkien quality in fantasy?

>> No.19262536

>>19262514
I got memed too. It's not for me. I was expecting something unique for all the memeing but it's just like all the other fantasy being published now.

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>>19262514
>Did I get memed into reading bakker?
I'm sorry to say this but yes, you did. We all did. Pic related is no meme though.

>> No.19262560

>>19262536
Usually seeing dedicated wojaks, memes, etc. specific to a series/book is usually a good sign, which is how I found BotNS. But here I was rewarded with a graphic description of a fat wizard taking a giant morning shit.

>> No.19262651

>>19262560
what the fuck?

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>>19262560
Read Cradle instead. The first six books are free (ebook) right now of course they're free all the time with libgen

>> No.19262669

>>19262514
it caters to /pol/tards, that's literally it

>> No.19262679

>>19262669
It really doesn't

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>>19258140
Perhaps the Stars, Terra Ignota #4 - Ada Palmer (2021)
Was it worthwhile to read this tetralogy? Yeah, overall, I suppose so. The narrative didn't go how I'd prefer, but it's consistently interesting if nothing else. In every book there's a considerable focus on experimentation in narrative style. Despite that most of the time I was more annoyed than intrigued by that, it was still worth reading.The narrative generally stayed at the periphery of the action, which made sense, considering the events that occurred and the narrator. Although this was a change of pace from where most books are in the middle of whatever was going on, I found that reading daily field reports and similar wasn't a preferred method of engagement for me. It was definitely a strange experience reading about people who had forgotten how to wage war and were reading monographs about how to do so and establishing best practices to have humane internment camps. They wanted to wage war against each other without killing anyone. Overall their conflict was so sterile that it seemed alien to me, though that was certainly for the best for those involved. There were two extended psychological horror scenes and they were probably the highlights of the book for me, especially the first one. For several pages the narrative is presented entirely though a data log, which I don't remember if I've seen before, or if I have, it wasn't anything noteworthy to me. Unfortunately, which is something I write all too often, I was still unable to feel particularly invested in any of it, which as with every book, limited my enjoyment. As with the previous books, I wasn't able to appreciate the classical age references, because my reading of classics is negligible. I was indifferent to the ending. It works well enough for the context, though I would've preferred something more decisive. My main problem with it was that after four books it felt lacking in consequence, though that's probably a personal and cultural issue.
Rating: 3/5

>> No.19262966

>>19262514
There are no shitting scenes and sex scenes are hardly graphic and involve a prostitute, nice try aping the maymays, retard. Also
>Tolkien
>good prose

>> No.19263030

>>19262966
Yes, there are, and they are far better than the Daenerys scene in GOT.

>> No.19263447

Where do I start with Robert E Howard? The setting of a forgotten prehistoric age interests me a lot.

>> No.19263654

>>19263447
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33482.The_Coming_of_Conan_the_Cimmerian
Here maybe

>> No.19263682

>>19262514
Tolkien was not even good. What are you talking about?

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>>19263447
what the previous anon posted, or this

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Thinking of giving Thomas Covenant a try. Is it any good?

>> No.19263944

https://youtu.be/MEXjZ_Z5_-M
Who’s pumped for Winds of Winter?

>> No.19264060

>>19262514
I love Bakker because I love Tolkien.

>> No.19264087

>>19262514
>with the inclusion of sex and shitting scenes.
that's the novelty

>> No.19264101

>>19262514
Even Martin created better characters than Tolkien.

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>>19258332
>sanderson's quality of writing is pretty consistent through most of his stuff
Yeah, consistently shit

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>Sanderson
>Quality of writing

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What is your opinion on eugenics in storytelling? Lame way to take agency away from important characters, or unrelenting fact of life?

Also; come discuss monkey eugenics in my science fiction quest.
>>>/qst/5034067

>> No.19264230

>>19264219
No one cares.

>> No.19264262

>>19262718
I appreciate your posts reviewer anon, I just wish less of your reviews were books written by women.

>> No.19264336
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I've decided to start reading some fantasy books while commuting to and from work and my choice of the book to read fell onto the "Wheel of time".

I've read 2 books and currently on the 3rd or 4th chapter of the third one. Rand, Perrin and the 3rd dude chapters are fun to read, but whatever women are doing is boring. They just break up the tempo of the story. Except for Nyneve or whatever her name is written like in English. Are all books like that or the writing quality improves with consequential books?

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19264341

read "of blood and fire" recently that may be the first series based on eragon, the execution is marginally better than it, as in the flow of the story never falters, and the other book drops at the end of this year. Weird to say it but this eragon-clone is closer to the "classical" fantasy than its contemporary works with no unnecessary forced politics, the downside being that its just the same concoction in a new bottle.
Goodreads
>Epheria is a land divided by war and mistrust. The High Lords of the south squabble and fight, only kept in check by the Dragonguard, traitors of a time long past, who serve the empire of the North.

In the remote villages of southern Epheria, still reeling from the tragic loss of his brother, Calen Bryer prepares for The Proving—a test of courage and skill that not all survive.

But when three strangers arrive in the village of Milltown, with a secret they are willing to die for, Calen’s world is ripped from under him and he is thrust headfirst into a war that has been raging for centuries.

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>>19264219
>What is your opinion on eugenics in storytelling?
>What is your opinion on societies in storytelling?
>What is your opinion on cultures in storytelling?
>What is your opinion on fucking swords and rocks and books and trees in storytelling?
Guess it depends on how it is used.

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19264359

from the recent fantasy works, another that i have read and feel it to be improving as the series progresses is the silent gods by justin call; it is about the rise of the villain/godling from his pov. The first, master of sorrows uses some similar tropes of modern day fantasy writing, but the second one has considerable improvement.

>> No.19264360

>>19264336
The magic gets cooler as the series goes on, but everything else stays at around the same level.

>> No.19264451
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19264451

Where were you when this world-shattering poem was released?

>> No.19264471

>>19264451
why was this published in a scifi mag

>> No.19264476

>>19264471
because the pozzed whore poc sjw publishers are anti red pilled

>> No.19264491

>>19264451
non red pilled and non based

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>>19264451
doesn't rhyme

>> No.19264510

>>19264502
Only your phallogocentric, heteronormative patriarchal canonical dead white males rhymed. '

>> No.19264512

>>19264502
this cat is female, get that whore shit out of /sffg/ you simp!

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>>19264510
Pushkin was 1/16th a negro or something, so he was the same as 50cent according to burgeroids

>> No.19264535

>>19264516
this cat is an american feline, stop posting burgeroids you negro.

>> No.19264553
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19264553

This is what /sffg/ has become, anons posting whores and blacked burgeroids that are mutt laws, fuck this simp general.

>> No.19264558

>>19264553
Based wise frog, we will laugh at their degeneracy.

>> No.19264566
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19264566

I hate seeing whores and mutt law, I want to see comfy frog.

>> No.19264572

>>19264566
Based sweater frog, we hate seeing degeneracy, let them swim in their sewer of shit and we will watch from our comfy palace.

>> No.19264578
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19264578

We don't like pozzed crap in our books, if your book has a female main charcter it's pozzed, we only want REAL books with women in their REAL place, which is a sex slave that takes cock in the ass, we want REAL UN-POZZED BOOKS!

>> No.19264581

>>19264578
>REAL UN-POZZED BOOKS!
Beautifully written by a wise wizard, Sandersois are seething right now.

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19264588

Modernity just shits out pozzed book after another, all with FEMALE! main characters, unacceptable.

>> No.19264592

>>19264588
Based, just like the couple of posts before, this is the /sffg/ I love.

>> No.19264593
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19264593

Meanwhile, women are raising their voices and writing quality kino fantasy whilst you chuds wallow in your own ennui.

>> No.19264599

>>19264593
Women peaked with Tanith Lee.

>> No.19264606

>>19264599
>Madeleine E. Robins is certified as an actor combatant in rapier, quarterstaff, broadsword, and hand-to-hand fighting, and was a member of a troupe of actors who perform Shakespeare scenes with combat for high schools and Renaissance festivals.
Show me one woman who is as skilled and based as M.E. Robins...?

>> No.19264608

>>19264606
>Show me one woman who is as skilled and based as M.E. Robins...?
Your mother, sucking cock

>> No.19264614

>>19264608
based

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>>19264608
Seething.

>> No.19264657

>>19260836
prince ofn othing

>> No.19264670

>>19263852
it hasn't aged well imo, it's a very weird mix of stuff with an unlikeable main character but not even in a soi way, bad battle scenes idk, the first like 50 pages or so are good though

>> No.19264675

reading cradle is kinda dumb, it's just a watered down and inferior version of the real thing, why not just read that?

>> No.19264693

>>19260714
The steel remains

>> No.19264718

>>19262718
Looks like I have to get back into the series and read book three.
Thanks for review

>> No.19264750

>>19264194
I don't see the problem here.

>> No.19264768

>>19264262
There are several reasons why this is the case.
Eventually I'll do an analysis of what I've read.
Currently I'm reducing the number of ongoing series I'm reading that have books out. This means I'm reading more newly published books. Newly published books are more women. Historically I haven't read as many women, so it's even more represented than it otherwise would be. All I care about is the content itself, though obviously by my ratings, I don't do well in picking them out.

That being said, when looking over my rough schedule for what I'll be reading for rest of the year, I don't currently have any books by women scheduled. Will I be reading any for rest of the year though? Yes, yes, I will because I haven't updated it recently. Relatively soon there will be one that I recently saw rated 5 stars in the group that's newly published and may cause quite the response by how silly it is. That'll be fun, assuming I can actually get through it, which is unknown.

I briefly looked over everything I've read for the year and it's probably roughly only a quarter of the distinct books, though not stories overall, are by women. It's almost certainly less than that for my highly rated books.

Once I start new series again, there will be various series by women as well. That's just how it goes.

>>19264718
You're welcome.

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19264797

>I hate sjw pozzed and un-redpilled women and whores by the communist poc and empowerment

>> No.19264802

>>19264797
Absolute truth that shines and storm of nature

>> No.19264811

>>19264675
There's a reason why people don't drink 100% alcohol by volume. It's not fit for human consumption. Instead, they drink very watered down versions.

>> No.19264823

everything is pozzed, so you should try the things that are only 10% pozzed, like prince of pozzing.

>> No.19264852

>>19260917
You could try the Dread Empire books

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19264854

I continue to add more terms. I'm still hovering over "view" to check how many false positives I'm getting, if any. Of course this is set up for my personal biases rather than a general audience. So far I'm very happy with the results.

>> No.19264857

>>19264854
add the word Brapper

>> No.19264875

>>19264857
It's included as brap*
The * means include any words that start with brap. So, that would include stuff like braps, brapper, brapperson, brapping, brapbros, and so on.

>> No.19264879

>>19264875
>brapperson
>brapbros
Beautiful

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>>19264854
Brapbros, lets do something like this but filter the sjw women readers, if a post includes a female it gets FILTERED.

>> No.19264894

Why do (you) like Book of the New Sun?

>> No.19264896

>>19260437
Fpbp

>> No.19264899

>>19264889
I encourage you to do so.

>> No.19264903

>>19264894
its anti pozzed, its red pilled

>> No.19264912

>>19264899
Anything that doesn't include Brap is filtered from now on.

>> No.19264924

>>19258346
First SA book does not have romance - overall thought Stormlight is a lot better than Mistborn though. All WaxWayne books are meh, except for maybe the third act of the latest book.

t. have read all Cosmere novels

I am quite invested in the series and can appreciate Sanderson's work - imo his prose "style" is his biggest weakness, its a bit plain. It just isnt beautiful, and only captures the imagination in climactic moments.

>> No.19264930

>>19264924
Now you'll have to read all Sanderson's works, not just his Cosmere novels.

>> No.19264949

>>19264930
Nah - Im invested in the Cosmere and genuinely find the universe fascinating, but he isnt a good enough writer for me to be interested in his other works. Besides its mostly YA.

>> No.19264959

>>19264894
The language is on par with “literary” novels. I am also a sucker for the heroes journey stories.

>> No.19264964

>>19264949
Have you read The Way of Kings Prime and White Sand? What about the other non-novel Cosmere works?

>> No.19264985

I'm confused as shit by the end of the Unholy Consult.

[Spoiler] So Khellus dies many times in the second series. He gets killed by the White Luck Warrior. But it seems like Bakker is referring to some sort of many worlds hypothesis, where Khellus may be dying in some timelines, but is selecting the probability functions where he lives?[/Spoiler]

[Spoiler]So he makes a deal with Ajokli to defeat the Consult. That makes sense. And he is possessed so it makes sense that Ajokli/Khellus can't sense Khel the way normal Khellus could and BTFO him. But is this an actual real death? Or did Khellus plan to die? Because it seems like a really dumbshit oversight in his plan. But he also mentions not fearing Hell and being willing to go because he would go there as a "hunter" and could basically start BTFOing the Ciphrang, something he already did. I mean, the decapitants show he went to the afterlife and then killed some and came back, right? But Ajokli is pissed as fuck and posseses Cnauir and is furious over what he sees as a betrayal by Khellus, so is the whole losing thing to get one over on the Gods? And how would that work? The Hundred seem very powerful but the Absolute sounds like a Hegelian supreme ontological being and there is also the Solitary God supposedly behind the Hundred that they are just parts of. It just leaves a lot of questions.[/spoiler]

>> No.19265174

>>19264964
>Prime - not yet and not really interested as its not canon.
>White Sand - I bought the first volume, but have not yet read through it.
>Currently reading through Secret History (its so much better than Wax&Wayne). I finished all other novellas/short stories, except for those unconnected to Elantris/SA/Mistborn.

>> No.19265178

>>19265174
I meant the White Sand novel.

>> No.19265193

>>19264985
kellhus never died, he would have died due to the WLW reading destiny etc but kelmomas was the nogod and could and did disrupt it, kellhus 100% would have died if it wasn't for kelmomas, once to the wlw when the rocks were collapsing and once in the tent with sorweel wlw

>>19264985
yeah something like that and he didn't die when ajokli possessed him, he did die when he got salted after kelmomas disrupted the possession and he was caught off guard, obviously he didn't plan for this. Kellhus needed ajoklis powers to beat the consult or he would have got raped by 100 skinspies with chorae. Ajokli can't see kelmomas so he has no idea what happened and yeah he's pissed, also kellhus is maybe not dead and swapped his soul into the decapitants or whatever and had some kind of backup plan since he knew the golden room would be risky

>> No.19265202

>>19265174
No - is it better than the graphic novel? I assumed this is the intended format so its how I plan to go through it.

>> No.19265209

>>19265202
>No - is it better than the graphic novel? I assumed this is the intended format so its how I plan to go through it.

Meant for
>>19265178

>> No.19265221

>>19265209
>>19265202
It's only a draft, so I'd think not.

>> No.19265230

>>19265193
Oh right, I figured the decapitants might have an actual plot point. Although I figured it was also to give Bakker a POV to narrate from that wasn't "in the know."

>> No.19265243

stfu /sffg/

>> No.19265262

>>19265193
It's either:
A. You are correct about the decapitant theory
B. The series resumes with him conquering the Outside
C. He will reincarnate through Akka and Mimara's son

I'm inclined to believe that C is the correct one, but who knows.

>> No.19265273

>>19258367
Is that actually one of his fans? What the fuck?

>> No.19265305

I'm just starting in the Gorgmenghast series and not sure what I expected. I just came from the Jack Vance Dying Earth books (except Rhialto) and seemed to have cinvinced myself that Peake was more of the same dense world filled with characters spoyting witty banter.

Is Flay autistic, bros? So far I'm getting quality setting occupied by really screwball characters. I just want to get lost in a fuckhuge castle. The opening describing the annual carving display was such a hook but now I'm just getting steerpike and flay barely speaking english to each other. I loved book of the new sun even though it took me a second try to get past Shadow filtering me. Is this lijely the same case?

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>>19264985
Uh, where to even start:
Kellhus does not dies because of Kelmomas who is invisible and messes with the Gods' future. There is also an argument to be made that Ajokli would interfere if needed. That was perhaps one of the reasons for their pact. The timeline you see is the way the White Luck Warrior saw reality and the future unfold without Metaphisical interference.

Kellhus had good reason to believe that Kelmomas was mentally ill. For a multitude of reasons, but more specifically for killing Sorwel and revealing a truthful motive that Kellhus couldn't see. This alone was impossible. No half Dunyain could see further and deeper than Kellhus. .

Your speculation is as good as anyone's. Not sure why Ajikli possesses Cnaiur or if/why he is angry at Kellhus. We still don't know the nature of the Cishaurim, among other things.

The last thing I can add as food for thought is: Why does Kellhus start caring about Esmenet? Is he tapping into Cishaurim sorcery?

>> No.19265332

>>19265306
why does he start caring about esmenet

IDK because he's DAMAGED or something?

>> No.19265348

>>19265332
Some people buy that, I simple do not. It removes the mystique.
I also think that He died on purpose. The Outside is the battle field now. No point delaying his war

>> No.19265358

>>19265348
if he died on purpose why not just suicide? Also when he died he basically went NANI?? seemed like he was taken by surprise for sure

>> No.19265369

>>19265358
I unironically have no fucking idea. The only thing I know is that that motherfucker never gets caught of guard. Even in death

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19265421

>the Wheel weaves as the Wheel weaves

>> No.19265440

>>19264959
>>19264903
I got to the part where Severian is exiled, does it get better?

>> No.19265451

>>19265440
Keep reading into his adventures around Nessus. Try to get lost in the world and the alien nature of it (while also noting the strange familiarity of our perhaps still human descendants and our planet). If you can't appreciate the meandering journey and the little clues and puzzles then it might not be for you yet.

>> No.19265453

>>19265421
The Wheel of Time TV Show will literally and unequivocally never reach half the success that Game of Thrones brought.

>> No.19265461

>>19265305
Are the spelling errors throwing people off? Where are my gormenghast niggas at?

>> No.19265466

>>19265451
>the little clues and puzzles
what do you mean? It's pretty much spelled out that
>This is Earth in the future
>The sun is dying, resulting in colder weather and population decline
>It's a medieval world but with random bits of high technology that are borderline magic
Is there something else I should be looking for? Severian spells out in like the second chapter that he is 'insane' and not a reliable narrator

>> No.19265484

>>19265305
Ghormenghast is just delightful prose really.

>> No.19265551

>>19265453
Yes. And?

>> No.19265560

>>19265466
An easy one in the start is the Matachin Tower. What do you think about it? What about the Citadel as a whole?

A more difficult one that stretches into the 5th book even is the Atrium of Time.

Sometimes up for debate is who ordered Thecla's run through the revolutionary?

>> No.19265627

>>19265560
>An easy one in the start is the Matachin Tower. What do you think about it? What about the Citadel as a whole?
It's a re-purposed rocket, the 'gun' room at the top is where the explosives used to be. I assume all the towers at the Citadel are repurposed rockets from the past when people were 'looking to other suns'
>A more difficult one that stretches into the 5th book even is the Atrium of Time.
Haven't gotten to that yet
>Sometimes up for debate is who ordered Thecla's run through the revolutionary?
My understanding is that Thecla is a concubine of the Autarch and is being used as a political prisoner since her sister[?] is Vodalus's wife/girlfriend/etc.

>> No.19265669

>>19265305
The screwball characters are the story. Le ebin labyrinth castle is bugman shit, it's advertised that way to try and get the mouthbreathing fantasy audience to read a real book.

>> No.19265670

Anons need 2 books to spend my last audible credits on before they expire today. Prefer something a little long so I can get the best bang for my buck.

>> No.19265728

>>19265670 They don't matter.
>>19258179 Bad comparison.
>>19258304 Makes no difference.
>>19258344 Projection
>>19258349 Polygons preferred
>>19258746 (you)
>>19258971 AI posting in a SFF thread
>>19259897 That's only the first step.
>>19261028 said the coward
>>19263944 2 years ago

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19265751

Tell me anon what do you see?

>> No.19265785

>>19265751
A post that is now hidden.

>> No.19265807

>>19265785
Don't care

>> No.19265813

>>19258140
Today is Ursula Le Guin's birthday. She died in 2018.

The Ursula K. Le Guin Literary Trust will award the first-ever Ursula K. Le Guin Prize for Fiction in 2022.
The Le Guin Prize for Fiction is an annual $25,000 cash prize given to a writer for a single book-length work of imaginative fiction.

>> No.19265817

>>19265807
This too, is a hidden post.

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>>19265813
here to pay my respects

>> No.19265822

>>19265670
Darkness That Comes Before, good narration.

Hyperion, excellent narration.

Dune, good narration, IDK how I feel about the casted parts.

The Black Company, good narration but shorter.

>> No.19265960

>>19264336
It gets worse. And I'd actually say the women don't have a single good storyline going for them 8 books in. GH's was probably the closes to that.

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>>19265751

>> No.19266244

I accept all of your defeats, not my problem, didn't ask.

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19266258

Bakker.

King.

Simple.

As.

>> No.19266501

>>19264101
>>19263682
>>19262966
Hating popular thing isn't a personality. It's not even an attractive trait whatsoever.

>> No.19266569

>>19266501
Non sequitur.

>> No.19266596

>>19266569
I don't care, I'm right anyway. Contrarian posters on /lit/ or literally any hobbyist/interest board on 4chan are obscenely predictable and they all think in the same way, i.e, popular thing bad, me no like popular thing means me get social currency.

>> No.19266607

>>19266596
>I don't care
I accept your defeat, then.

>> No.19266615
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19266615

>>19266596
But Tolkien is shit.

Simple as.

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>>19266615
This.
All his characters are one dimensional and then we have this literal WHY dumbass.

>> No.19266632

>>19266615
He wrote some nice children's books. Nothing else worthwhile.

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>>19266258
No

>> No.19266652

>>19266648
Pringles are overrated.

>> No.19266671

>>19266652
I don't eat snack food couldn't tell you about em

>> No.19266686

>>19266671
Snack food is for the degenerated Social Justice Warriors that read the fartensons.

>> No.19266693

I only eat COCK because it's BASED!

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>ELS speaking about food

>> No.19266712

Eating pussy is sjw and simp behavior, you have to SUCK COCK!

>> No.19266795

>>19264336
The first three books are comfy adventure stories with the 4th really making the series its own thing. Book 5 is pretty good and Book 6 is also very good. After that, yeah, the series is up for debate

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>>19260508
By Jack Vance:
Dying Earth cycle.
Dragon masters.

>> No.19266831

>>19265453
Not only that but it will be an unironical shit show. Woke bs writing(said by one of the big ones up top), women centric (sven more than the actual books), forced diversity... Bad things to come, my friend

>> No.19266835

>>19265670
They say that the First Law Books have really good narration. Havent heard it myself, tho

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19266844

>>19260836
The Last Empire.

Well just saying this name in such context is the spoilers...

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>>19264675
>>19264811
Cradle is technically speaking, a derivative of the xuanhuan genre. Can you name any xuanhuan works that are fully translated into english by a native speaker? If so then read that if you want more of that genre. But there's no reason to not also read Cradle.

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>>19266831
I never liked the Waste of Time. Meaning that I'm actually looking forward the shit show.

>> No.19266859

>>19265453
Who cares.
Game of Thrones TV show is 2/10
When book is 9/10 (not counting points for fat fuck never finishing the book).
Modern TV is a trash.

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>'Why, O people of the Noldor,' he cried, 'why should we longer serve the jealous Valar, who cannot keep us nor even their own realm secure from their Enemy? And though he be now their foe, are not they and he of one kin?'
>'Vengeance calls me hence, but even were it otherwise I would not dwell longer in the same land with the kin of my father's slayer and of the thief of my treasure."
>'Yet I am not the only valiant in this valiant people. And have ye not all lost your King? And what else have ye not lost, cooped here in a narrow land between the mountains and the sea?"
>Long he spoke, and ever he urged the Noldor to follow him and by their own prowess to win freedom and great realms in the lands of the East, before it was too late; for he echoed the lies of Melkor, that the Valar had cozened them and would hold them captive so that Men might rule in Middle-earth.
>Many of the Eldar heard then for the first time of the Aftercomers. 'Fair shall the end be,' he cried, though long and hard shall be the road! Say farewell to bondage! But say farewell also to ease! Say farewell to the weak! Say farewell to your treasures! More still shall we make."
>'Journey light: but bring with you your swords! For we will go further than Oromë, endure longer than Tulkas: we will never turn back from pursuit. After Morgoth to the ends of the Earth!'
>'War shall he have and hatred undying. But when we have conquered and have regained the Silmarils, then we and we alone shall be lords of the unsullied Light, and masters of the bliss and beauty of Arda. No other race shall oust us!'

Nothing in the genre even approaches this level of mastery.

>> No.19266929

>>19266913
Dinosaur tier cringe.

>> No.19266941

>>19266913
people who have no grasp on literature in general, especially pre-19th century stuff (i.e., most normie genreshitters) can't appreciate this

>> No.19266952

>>19266666
I have to check 'em

>> No.19266972

Is Children of Time from Adrian Tchaikovsky any good?

>> No.19266981

>>19258147
A lonesome night in October
Roger Zelazny

>> No.19266998

Sanderson is way better than Tolkien.

>> No.19267012
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*hits pipe*
i cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than following the light

>> No.19267037

>>19266913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSZ7f0Yy-4M

>> No.19267049

>>19266913
>'War shall he have and hatred undying.'
I really really like this line.

>> No.19267122

>>19264854
The real peace of mind comes when you turn off stubs and turn on recursive filtering. Then there's literally no trace.

>> No.19267209

Name a protagonist faction more hot-blooded and manly than the Noldor.

>> No.19267253

>>19267209
You clearly must be new here.

>> No.19267260

>>19265466
Severian claims to have a photgraphic memory but when his own teacher is giving him advice for his journey, he says that he'll forget most of it anyway.

>> No.19267269

>>19267260
Yeah I noticed that he was an unreliable narrator when in chapter 2 he started talking about how he can't trust his mind.
So far it's an enjoyable read but I don't understand why it is so revered

>> No.19267282

>>19267269
You should read until he gets out into the city and if you still don't like it by then drop it.

>> No.19267369

>>19267269
Just drop it. If you're already being this snarky and bitchy before even finishing the first novella, just fuck off.

>> No.19267380

>like book
>tfw ultimate cringe section
Please help I can feel my body trying to gain consciousness and kill itself.

>> No.19267438

>>19266848
The stuff on wuxia world seems to have a good translation
If you’ve never produced “good prose” in your life how can you turn “Junior do you dare??” Into art

>> No.19267451

>>19267269
Most of the stuff that happens before he leaves Nessus is setup for the 2nd reading. You just have to note it and move on. The story proper begins shortly after.

>> No.19267507

>>19267282
>>19267369
What happened when they came to the palace and there were white moving statues there and they were stuck in a prison, they got whipped with a lightning whip and Severian's android friend broke?

I had a pretty good grasp on everything until then and was enjoying the ride, but I got filtered hard for a good 50+ pages or so when they came to the palace and performed the play. What was the play supposed to mean? Can't wrap my head around what the fuck that section was supposed to mean even after finishing the series.

>> No.19267509

>>19267369
>can't handle somebody not worshiping his sacred cow

>> No.19267549

>>19267380
Guys I was serious, help

>> No.19267554

Recommend books that are anti pozzed, anti blue pill, anti sjw, anti sandersoi, anti whore, anti modernity, anti degeneracy, anti (((classics))), anti pleb, anti plebbit and anti plebber, I want the most pro based book ever.

>> No.19267556

>>19267507
The play is incomprehensible to most people until reading Urth of the New Sun.
>>19267509
No, I'm just preemptively calling you a whiny bitch because you're transparently bad faith.

>> No.19267558

>>19267554
Get a life.

>> No.19267559

>>19267554
Prince of Nothing

>> No.19267568

>>19267558
I bet you are pro pozzed and also sjw that drink the the soier and does a wojak face

>> No.19267577

Recommend book that put women in their place.

>> No.19267578

>>19267577
Go touch grass.

>> No.19267580

>>19267554
You would love Starship Troopers

>> No.19267581

>>19267577
Prince Of Nothing.

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19267586

This book was amazing. Just finished it and already ordered the sequel. Is there anything else like it?

>> No.19267590

>>19267580
Finally and anti pozzed, anti blue pill, anti sjw, anti sandersoi, anti whore, anti modernity, anti degeneracy, anti (((classics))), anti pleb, anti plebbit and anti plebber, and its NOT Bakker.

>> No.19267593

>>19264854
Please share it with the rest of us, so we don't have to read bakkerfags shitting up the thread.

>> No.19267601

>>19267593
This is a Bakkerchad territory, it's already marked.

>> No.19267606

>>19267601
Why do you have to ruin the thread for the rest of us?

>> No.19267611

>>19267606
if the thread has pozzed crap, sandersois, simp retards, female readers, whores and soier drinkers, a Bakkerchad has to rise up so the scum falls.

>> No.19267615

>>19267611
Do you even have a life? What compels you to ruin this general.

>> No.19267625
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19267625

RULER OF /SFFG/

>> No.19267630

>>19267625
Simple as.

>> No.19267638

New thread
>>19267634

>> No.19267643

>>19258319
If you had problems with the pacing of The Final Empire then there's no way you're making it through the rest of the series.

The Farseer books are very much worth a read, but only if an in-depth look at abandoned child syndrome and depression sounds interesting to you.

>> No.19267644

>>19267615
>Do you even have a life?
I do, I'm richer than most of sandersois that work in McDonalds, I'm almost retired and I have enough time to discuss about Bakker and make him the most mentioned author in /sffg/

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>>19267644
>retirement age
Old fucking man

>> No.19267788

>>19264357
i wish he was that based, sadly not.

>> No.19268638

>>19258178
Ugh...if Philip K. Dick and Robert Heinlein aren't on that list, then it's pseud and based.

>> No.19268672

>>19265453
It will if it has more naked hot chicks than GoT.
You think I watched it for the random plot?