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Previous Thread:>>19246002

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>A link to the ultimate colossal science fiction and fantasy collection torrent
>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
Never going to be created.

>> No.19252226
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King of /sffg/

Simple as

>> No.19252228

Read some Ligotti if you want bleak literature, ditch Bakker!

>> No.19252230

>>19252226
Based.
>>19252228
Cringe.

>> No.19252239

>>19252228
Where should I start with Ligotti?

>> No.19252242

>>19252228
>Ligotti
Literal who.

>> No.19252245

To the gods of the north I pray
And raise my cup for the fallen ones
Then I cry, in Valhalla they'll sing!

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>>19252239
The Conspiracy Against the Human Race to learn more about the underlying philosophy. (non-fiction)

"My Work Is Not Yet Done" is a great start.
"Songs of a Dead Dreamer" and "Teatro Grottesco" are great places too.

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>>19252239
the bighead book is a pretty good start

>> No.19252358

Finally the schizo went to sleep.

>> No.19252370
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What should I read after Throne of Glass?

>> No.19252380

>>19252370
Good books.

>> No.19252383

Any good xenofiction (nonhuman perspectives)? The more nonhuman the better.

>> No.19252389

>>19252383
The Gods Themselves

>> No.19252483

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exDVJXYEFSM

>> No.19252491

>>19252483
She is very orange

>> No.19252516

>>19252483
>comments disabled
Bakkbros we broke her..

>> No.19252526

>>19252516
more like spazzed all over the comments talking about rape and curved phalluses.

>> No.19252548
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>>19252526
Not really.

>> No.19252553

>>19252548
She's correct. Billy completely misinterpreted her points because (ironically) he took the claims of sexism personally instead of realizing that she was simply stating why she personally didn't like the book.

>> No.19252555

>>19252548
>post a screenshot of them spazzing about women and men

>> No.19252561

>>19252553
She just can't take criticism, which is why she disabled the comments.

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>>19252548
>Imagine being so ass blasted that you have to unironically use the word "privilege" in order to "win" an argument.

>> No.19252572

>>19252548
It's absolutely hilarious to see how Esmenet is able to filter so many people.

>> No.19252578

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR3OFY0Z9NA

Why does he sound like a retard? I thought it was for smart people.

>> No.19252579

>>19252555
Half of her review is whining about muh feemool representashun and muhsogeeny. Should've made it to Aspect-Emperor series where it turns into fempower trip

>> No.19252589

>>19252578
Why are watching retards instead of reading the damn books

>> No.19252592

All this anti-Bakker posting really makes me want to read him and see what the fuss is all about.

>> No.19252619

>>19252578
Stop advertising your Youtube channel, no one gives a fuck.

>> No.19252631

>>19252589
He's a retard. Not as retarded as you, though.

>> No.19252633

>>19252589
The video is the exact same thing as asking "is x worth reading" on here and having some anon reply with a random rant about how they didn't like the books politics.

>> No.19252655

Bakker.

>> No.19252668

Sarah "Queen of /sffg/" J Maas > Bakker

>> No.19252670

>>19252633
Except he liked the series, did you even watch the video?

>> No.19252678

I need some good stuff with magic in it

>> No.19252679

>>19252670
>Except he liked the series
Good for him.
>did you even watch the video?
No, I didn't. Why should I care about anything you post when all you seek is to derail the thread?

>> No.19252680

Sarah bros, did we get too cocky?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTGKtnWkiSA

>> No.19252685

>>19252679
Typical anti-bakker shites who can't even take the time to look up information.

>> No.19252688
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Daily reminder that these people think they own /sffg/.

>> No.19252691

>>19252688
I'm pretty sure that schizo went to bed considering how well the thread is going.

>> No.19252701

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqhwYjZTPR4

Do you think he likes Bakker?

>> No.19252705

>>19252688
What's wrong with those posts?
Darkess that comes before is kinda boring.

>> No.19252722

>>19252705
I mean, I would also be incredibly bored if I wasn't able to decipher Bakker's extended vocabulary.

>> No.19252723

>>19252722
Lol. Bakker is bad writter. You do not know what your talking about.

>> No.19252737

>>19252723
>Bakker is bad
>your

Like poetry.

>> No.19252802

>>19252722
Can't think of a single difficult word in the whole of Darkness.

>> No.19252824

>>19252723
Didn't ask

>> No.19252829

>>19252824
Not my problem.

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>>19252881

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>>19252889

>> No.19252923

>>19252824
not him but FUCK OFF ASSHOLE

>> No.19252927

>>19252824
Based.

>> No.19252967

>>19252829
I accept my defeat.

>> No.19252972

All this retarded Bakker shilling is making me want to return to tradition and read the book of the new sun

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Uhg, this books was really REALLY bad.

>> No.19252993

Hierarchy of Bakkerchads

1-Curved Phallus Supreme: They have the authority to announce defeat to ANY anon

2-Curved Phallus Captain: They can accept YOUR defeat

3-Curved Phallus War Dog: They can bully you INTO defeat that is authorized by higher Curved Phalluses

4-Curved Phallus Slave: They can defeat themselves to please Curved Phalluses

5-Straight Phallus Scum: They are the bottom of the barrel and is raped eternally.

>> No.19252996

So, when is the No-God coming out?

It's the only salvation for this general.

>> No.19252999

>>19252993
T R U T H
S H I N E S

>> No.19253019

>>19252993
Number 3 is literally me

>> No.19253074
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19253074

Does Mark have a curved phallus?

>> No.19253085

>>19253074
Its curved not only upwards but also to the left, it’s so long it reaches his bellybutton. Grey seed

>> No.19253093

>>19252228
Already did and am writing post-singularity scifi. Does /sffg/ write at all? I heard from /wg/ that some of you do. Hope to share 3rd draft next year.

>> No.19253166

>>19253093
i'm currently writing, and i'm sure there's a few regulars here who are as well. i hope you post your stuff here when it's done

>> No.19253191

>>19252983
glad you caught on early. I was halfway through Rhythm of War when I started thinking to myself "god this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen"

>> No.19253194

>>19252222
All /sffg/fags must hang

>> No.19253265

>>19252983
At least it's not Elantris. Even Sanderson groans about all the mistakes he made in his early books.

>> No.19253272

>>19253191
Oathbringer was shit, but RoW was what made me drop the series.

>> No.19253299

>>19253191
Lol but why is it so bad, tho? You guys are giving me a bias before I even begin the series

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>>19253299

>> No.19253311

>>19253299
It's just poorly written overall. A gigantic outline where no real organic events happen.

Looks like a B tier super hero movie. It has all the cliches you can think of, and more.

>> No.19253426

>>19253299
clichés abounding
full of pointless window dressing (read: "worldbuilding")
stilted dialogue
awkward characterizations
plot lines swept under the rug
highly formulaic in its pacing and often bogged down by entire chapters of armchair psychology

>> No.19253448

>>19252222
What does warhammer 40K have that other sci-fi franchises dont? Normies seem to actually care about it while they definitely don't care about any other sci-fi setting or author as much unless you count star wars. On the internet zoomers spam warhammer memes all the time and its really obnoxious. So how did warhammer get such a large following?

>> No.19253469

>>19253448
40k and star wars have a lot in common
>character design centers around selling toys
>popular across multiple mediums
>fits multiple degrees of fan participation, from vidya or movie normies all the way to turbonerds who read tie-in books and contribute to wikis
also commercial success feeds into itself

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>Franchises

>> No.19253483

>>19253448
It's been around for a long time and has a wide variety of factions so people can find one particular thing they like in the universe. It was popular here for a long time. Some of the video games like Dawn of War have hilariously bad scripts and voice acting.

I read a lot of 40k, it's generally good, but not ground breaking writing. Maybe that's why it's popular. It's very average.

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>>19252222
Still in progress of amassing low quality & spam keywords. It's already hiding a substantial amount of the thread, but that's for the best.

>> No.19253584

>>19253570
if you're going to turn this thread into a disjointed mess with little to no engagement, you might as well go somewhere people are less stupid

>> No.19253600

I re-read Dune recently and noticed that the pacing is really jarring. Also, Herbert skips over big chunks of time for seemingly no reason, kills off major characters suddenly and other weird plot points. Any other anon's find this? Maybe I'm being too critical, but I don't see why this got so many awards.

>> No.19253606

>>19253570
Straight phallus moment.

>> No.19253608

Seems that Perhaps The Stars by Ada Palmer, the 4th and final book in the series, released some time ago actually after all the delays. I suppose I'll read it sometime soon.

>> No.19253614

>>19253584
You assume that people would use it, they won't, and that it won't only be for my own use. Sure, I'll eventually post it and people can customize it, but I don't anyone would use it. But, I can't prove that people won't, so those posting won't ever know how many are using it and aren't seeing their nonsense.

>> No.19253624

>>19253614
no I am talking about you anon

>> No.19253634

Non is save from the Banana Wrath, the Cucumbers shall suffer under the Iron Fist of Bananas.

>> No.19253645

>>19253624
Oh, you mean for me personally. Nah, it won't be any sort of an issue for me. There's nowhere else I really want to go anyway.

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>>19253448
Because its Grimdark. Its just outright brutal, reactionary and takes everything to exaggerated extremes. It glorifies war and is essentially an amalgam of real-life history and other franchises like Dune, Foundation, Lord of the rings, etc.

+HYDRA DOMINATUS+

>> No.19253654

>>19253448
They only care about the memes, not the books. The memes are because of they were used a lot in the Trump campaign.

>> No.19253670

>>19253570
Nice blog post. How do I unsubscribe?

>> No.19253690

>>19253570
Peak autism right here.

>> No.19253699

>>19253570
Please hurry.

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>>19253570
>Imagine being so thin skinned that you have to create your own echo chamber.
Enjoy talking to yourself, I guess. Although I would recommend medical assistance.

>> No.19253857

>>19252491
orange woman good

>> No.19253861

is there a genre fiction community where
>negative opinions can be expressed
>authors aren't coddled or catered to
>/pol/ and /r9k/ cancer is deleted
>a handful of mentally ill retards don't monopolize discussion through sheer posting volume
if not would any of you faggots be interested in such a place

>> No.19253869

>>19253861
Fuck off to /spg/ - Straight Phallus General

>> No.19253877

>>19253869
there is nothing to be angry about. I do not look down on bakkerfags

>> No.19253878

>>19253861
>Is there a community with
>free speech
>but also no free speech
Why do I see this sort of comment constantly?

>> No.19253885

>>19253570
based, when you're finished let me know, I need this shit

>> No.19253886

Guys can I bend my dick so I have a curved one?

>> No.19253889

>>19253861
You just described Reddit.

>> No.19253897

>>19253889
this general makes reddit a fine place of sublime discussion.

>> No.19253898

>>19253878
you don't have free speech on /lit/ either retard

>>19253889
>negative opinions can be expressed
>authors aren't coddled or catered to

>> No.19253901

>>19253897
Yet here you are complaining.

>> No.19253907

it is the year 2042, Curved Phalluses are banned from society for being too Based and Right Winged.

>> No.19253910
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>>19253907
Bananas rise up

>> No.19253916

>>19253901
I get man, you accept my defeat.

>> No.19253919

curved phalluses do not constitute in /pol/ or /r9k/ shit and are therefore perfectly OK

>> No.19253923

>>19253910
>Banana chads living off the gird after being shunned and banished from society
>Spoilers, they formed a based society with no girls and troons

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Bakker is King

>> No.19253949

>>19253925
My phone wallpaper

>> No.19253960

What books did you guys read that were Self Published in the last 2 years?

>> No.19253971

i imagine the average age of /sffg/ especially in these last few weeks is about 13-14

>> No.19253974

>>19253971
It’s still 30+, kids don’t read

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Chad-con.

>> No.19253993

>>19253960
none. not for lack of wanting but they always turn out to be amazon exclusives and only a colossal cuck would buy digital media from amazon

>> No.19254003

>>19253993
>buying any book
>2021
I've read over 2k fantasy books, and I didn't pay for a single one of them.

>> No.19254009

>>19254003
Money has never been a problem on my side.

>> No.19254011

>>19254003
I am happy for you anon and I am glad to bankrolling your hobby

>> No.19254018

>>19254011
Thank you shareanon. Please continue to share more books in the future.

>> No.19254020

>>19253977
Not a cucumber in sight.

>> No.19254031

>>19254003
can every self-published novel on amazon be pirated? I imagine most would be too obscure for anyone to go through the effort

>> No.19254065

Could I get some actual recommendations for books I might like? Just read Dune (1-6, no fanfiction) and ASOIAF. Really liked both of them, but ASOIAF books 1-3 were by far my favorites

>> No.19254076

>>19254065
first law by joe abercrombie

>> No.19254078

>>19254065
people like you typically go to Malazan next

>> No.19254081

>>19254076
>first law by joe abercrombie
Sure, I'll try that out
>>19254078
>people like you
Is that meant to be demeaning?

>> No.19254099

>>19254065
Martin is a big fan of Bakker. Take that for what you will.

>> No.19254121

>>19254099
Are the other series by GRRM worth checking out?

>> No.19254125

>>19254018
it's not just about uploading shit you bought. if books don't sell, contracts don't get renewed. after a while the only things that get published are lowest-common-denominator YA shit. the process is already under way.
piracy only works because most people don't do it.

>>19254081
only if this sounds demeaning to you :
>new to genre fiction
>medium to high reading comprehension level
>not deterred by low exposition narratives
>like an anthropological element to his stories

Malazan is right up your alley

>> No.19254128

>>19254121
No, unironically

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>>19254121
>>19254128
edited BY GRRM THE AUTHOR OF GAME OF THRONES THAT SHOW YOU LIKE AND IS POPULAR

>> No.19254192

>>19254161
I actually kinda hate that GOT got as popular as it did... then went completely off the rails in terms of plot, characters, etc.
If I ever want to search a book character the first thing that pops up is their show counterpart
Also now we ""know"" some of the future plot points in TWOW/ADOS if they are ever released
>Jon gets resurrected (I mean this was 99% confirmed but still) and R+L=J is confirmed
>Dany is going to raze King's Landing
>Shireen is confirmed to be burned alive

>> No.19254206

>>19253649
>It glorifies war and is essentially an amalgam of real-life history
So instead of glorifying real heroes who survived the real hardships of war modern now glorify the exploits of primarch mcbigstrongguy instead? Not surprising considering that we have no one to look up to in real life except for soulless politicians but its still pathetic.

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>>19253448
Literally just the aesthetic. Which to be honest is enough to make it better than most sci fantasy, since most sci fantasy has nothing important to say so it might as well look cool and be entertaining.

>> No.19254433

>>19253570
Please finish already.

>> No.19254452

Helloo, who are your regulars of here?
are they mean?

>> No.19254514

>>19254452
You already announced yourself. No need for more "Hellos".

>> No.19254546

>>19254452
I just know that OP, animeassholedevourer, is a regular

>> No.19254576

>>19254452
There’s a schizo who hates anime and calls anything he doesn’t like anime.

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>>19254576
I call things I do like anime

>> No.19254606

>>19254192
I think guy playing Bran spilled the beans about cripple king being George's idea. I think Dany's return to Meereen probably is going to be similar, maybe even with burning of the Dosh Khaleen. Euron is real wild card.

>> No.19254615 [DELETED] 

>>19254433
>>19253885
>>19253699
Sure, why not.
Here's a test run version.
Yes, it's huge, but it works. It did for me anyway.
To avoid overriding your personal settings while testing you should open a private/incognito window.
To reset should just have to delete your 4chan cookies.
It can be toggled off/on by going into the settings and clicking on filter.
This applies to all threads on the site when active.
Maybe somewhere someone already made something like this for general site usage.
I'd have to check later.

I saw this paste site on nyaa and seems to work well enough.
Give suggestions on the page at the comment section at the bottom.
It's set expire in a week, which should be enough time for some changes
https://privatebin.at/?3d68443196c469a7#5xYJkThmsAyRJZm9ZEYiCmFRfaXNTXqsACWKwux4txr8

>> No.19254651

>>19254576
Fuck off

>> No.19254656

>>19253307
What the fuck? Please tell me there's at least some context to this

>> No.19254666

>>19254576
At least the anime regular is nice apparently

>> No.19254689

>>19254065
First Law is good to get an ASOIAF fix. It's a bit more "larger than life" with its characters but it's pretty good

>> No.19254698

>>19254615
note: as far as I can tell this only works on desktop, as that seems to be the only that supports auto-hiding. So, it probably won't do anything on mobile or if you're using an app like clover or blue clover. I'm sure there are various other solutions to this problem as well.

>> No.19254742

>>19254656
There's a context to everything, but the character in question is literally mentally ill.

>> No.19254747

>>19254615
>Imagine willingly downloading viruses to your PC.

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>>19254576
I know for a fact there are at least two people who use anime as a pejorative in this general.

>> No.19254769

>>19254762
>who use anime as a pejorative in this general.
What else would it be?

>> No.19254778

>>19254666
Yeah, he seems nice and willing to talk about books. The anti-anime schizo just screeches about trannies.

>> No.19254782

>>19254747
cucumber dicks do that, the curved supremes have anti virus installed to their phallus

>> No.19254791

>>19254615
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS!!!! THIS IS NOT >>19253570

DOWNLOAD IT AT YOUR OWN PERIL!

DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU!

>> No.19254799

>>19254615
downloaded it and it seems to be working ok, if its a virus though like the other anons are saying, ill find you and rape you

>> No.19254809

>>19254769
Me and the person who isn't me. That is why I'm saying "I know".

Captcha: nwapy

>> No.19254812

>>19254791
IT WILL MAKE YOUR DICK STRAIGHT!!!

IT WILL NOT BE CURVED LIKE BEFORE!!!!!

DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU!

>> No.19254824

>>19254615
Downloaded this and my dick turned as straight as a ruler, fuck this scam.

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Enjoy your Dunyain Virus.

>> No.19254831
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DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE LINK!

>> No.19254838
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The link has the No God virus.

>> No.19254839
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Imagine being so fucking retarded as to download some one's false flagging file. Or even clicking on random links for that matter.

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We Won Bakker Bros.

Like we always do.

Truth Shines

>> No.19254848

>>19254830
funny frog laugh + tears

>> No.19254861

>>19254848
Bakker.

>> No.19254867

>>19254846
I thought he was a banana

>> No.19254868

Why are Bakkerfags so adamant in derailing /sffg/?

>> No.19254876

>>19254868
/sffg/ has no rails. it's a ship, and the bakkerfags are a storm

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>Why are Bakkerfags so adamant in derailing /sffg/?

>> No.19254894

>>19254846
Let's discuss about the most handsome Bakker character, I think it's Kellhus.

>> No.19254905
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>>19254769
it would be kino

>> No.19254930

>>19253570
I'm also gradually expanding my filters, soon there won't be any trace of these cretins.

>> No.19254934

>>19254615
>all the shitposters freaking out
Based as fuck anon.

>> No.19254944

>>19254930
Echo Chambers are Reddit, I accept your defeat, Not my problem

>> No.19254953

>>19254839
>>/lit/image/Dvt-VAFf5WQAZ4zOBPhXZg
>>/lit/image/eE8Jlhq2xF8Y3OJgiHzyRw
Both these images are used by the same shit poster. Literally not a single good post attached to them.

>> No.19254963

>>19254944
Just post about something worth responding to bro. I'll be happy to talk. Until then, you and your discord pals can stay filtered.

>> No.19254984

If you could only recommend your best friend one book, what would it be?

>> No.19254988

>>19254953
He's right, though.

>> No.19254997

>>19254984
Songs of a Dead Dreamer

>> No.19255003

>>19254988
Thank you bro, but I'm not those people the schizo linked.

>> No.19255007

>>19252983
>>/lit/image/b9JEU5ruViHexNhn8VSMew
Every instance of this image has been posted by a bakker shitposter as far back as February of this year. If this isn't autism I don't know what is.

>> No.19255020

>>19255007
>Popular memes with a different filename are somehow always the same person.
>People don't save each other's memes on 4chan.

Unironically take your meds, schizo.

>> No.19255024

>>19255007
Just imagine him in his room tearing that book and his mom just watches as he screams at the imaginary "Sandersois" and reeing at the top of his lung.

>> No.19255025

>>19255007
Can’t wait for you to realize all the questions about Baker’s books are just repeated.

>> No.19255033

>>19255025
Oh I realized a while ago, which is why I started filtering them. This shit has been going on for almost a year, these threads have been permanently occupied by a fucking discord group and mods won't do anything about it.

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>>19255033
>B-But, muh mods
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS!!!!!!

>> No.19255042
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>>19255020
lol, sure bro, this is definitely not one person with severe autism obviously making the same post over and over again

>> No.19255049

>>19255042
he finally found use for these

>> No.19255051

>>19255025
You would think that he would have given up by now, but apparently this general is his entire life. At least the Bakker guy is sometimes funny. He would eventually leave too if the schizo didn't bitch about it every single time.

>> No.19255062

>>19255042
No different from you (>>19252688), then.

>> No.19255064

>>19255042
Your reaction to those were hilarious, though. I posted 2 of those. No idea about the rest.

>> No.19255070

>>19255062
Bakkerfags have been doing this for almost a year. They're mentally ill, obsessive discordfags. Probably not more than like 3 or 4 of them, most of the shitposts are probably the same giga autist, which would explain why all the images are easily searchable in the archive.

>> No.19255087

>>19255070
We've been through this already, newfag. Bakker has always reigned supreme in /sffg/. And discussions about his works will literally never go away.

Cope.

>> No.19255098

>>19255087
Pretty much. Don't know where this idea came from that Bakker has only been shilled here for a year or so.
I remember Bakker posting way back when White Luck Warrior came out, I believe.

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Discuss

>> No.19255125

bakker is for gay boys

>only gayboys disagree

>> No.19255126

>>19255042
so is people making fun of sanderson your real issue?

>> No.19255130
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Wasing the reading of the Sanderson?

>> No.19255132

>>19255130
Wasing the reading of was

>> No.19255134

>>19255070
Don’t forget they also samefag

>> No.19255138

>>19255132
Wasing the what of "was"?

>> No.19255147

>>19255138
Wasing not of the reading

>> No.19255149

>>19255147
I can't do it like spook, I don't sound like him

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>>19252222
What's up, gayboys? Was thinking of starting Memory, Sorrow and Thorn for my comfy winter read. Anyone ever read this series?

>> No.19255244

>>19255217
It's cringe and leftpilled, read Bakker instead.

>> No.19255270

>>19255244
I'll get to Bakker eventually but I want a comfy read for winter that's not LOTR or The Hobbit

>> No.19255348

>>19252222
Jesus christ, this is the shittiest general I've seen in a while and I've been to /vrpg/ recently

>> No.19255352

>>19255348
Didn't ask.

>> No.19255361

>>19255348
/sffg/ has been unusable for almost a year now due to all the bakkerfags derailing it.

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Not much science fiction in it but a genuinely funny book nevertheless

>> No.19255388

>>19255361
No, not really.

>> No.19255397

>>19255348
/vrpg/ wasing the best video game board of the yetting yet though

>> No.19255401

>>19255388
This post is based! Truth shines!

>> No.19255498

>>19255388
Curved phallus moment.

>>19255361
Then make your own straight phallus general.

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How is Bakker so good with naming conventions, bros? Most fantasy writers are lucky to get a few punchy, memorable fictional terms in their work, but Bakker's entire lore is filled with morphology that feels just right. Took me a while to realise that glyphs added to the letters aren't just for weirdness sake but a functional carriers of the name's root history.
For me, it's Junriüma.

>> No.19255836

Another repeated question.

>> No.19255840

>>19255836
They’ve been doing that for a while now.

>> No.19255876

>>19255836
Don't care didn't ask plus your phallus is straight

>> No.19256077

Why do three seas niggas get boners from doing literally anything
Mahoods arching left and right

>> No.19256100

>>19255122
that's all we do bud

>> No.19256185

>>19255217
I read it nigh on 15 years ago. It's a very slow series in the vein of Tolkienist adventure. Tad Williams' general style is a very gradual build up to a final conflict where most of the plot threads are resolved in rapid succession. During the gradual build up there's usually a lot of travel (again, the Tolkien influence) and exploring the mysteries of his setting. He's big into fairy tales and mythology, so fairies and myths always feature heavily in his books. I would say that Osten Ard, the world of Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, is his weakest setting. It's still very richly detailed, but it's easily his least original work.

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Today's cops (plus köt)

>> No.19256710

>>19256185
Sounds good, desu. I wanted something familiar and comfy that I could just kick back and get lost in

That being said, which of Tad's worlds do you consider superior?

>> No.19256731

>>19256668
cute, comfy, and based

>> No.19256733

>>19252254
>>19252258
>Songs of a Dead Dreamer
I’ll start with this then.

>>19252254
Will reading The Conspiracy Against the Human Race to learn more about the underlying philosophy help me understand his mindset more?

>> No.19256741

>>19252239
Ligotti is insufferable, if you like him for some reason then whatever but if you don't like him don't feel like it's your fault. Midwit author for midwits.

>> No.19256758

>>19252228
People really hate Ligotti. I'll read him.

>> No.19256825

>>19256758
>People really hate Ligotti.
If you ever read The Conspiracy Against the Human Race. You'll know why.

>> No.19256862

>>19252222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfIpY0eEA84
Anyone got good interviews/panels with their fav authors?

>> No.19256866

>>19252258
This is a good piece of shit collection lol. I'm upset I bought it.

>> No.19256873

>>19256710
My favorite is Shadowmarch. It's still very derivative of real world cultures and mythologies, but he's taken more of an effort to give them a good scramble, whereas Osten Ard feels very much like Europe by another name, compressed to about a third of its real size. The thing I like most about Shadowmarch is the mythology, the fact that there's three different versions of the "Theomachy" (god war) recorded in holy books, and the gods all have different names in the different traditions, so untangling that and making sense of the past was part of the fun of it. That's in the background though. The foreground has lots of warfare, conspiracies, political intrigue, and so on. In true Tad Williams style though he goes very slowly, building stuff up then gradually bringing things to a head. He's a little better with interspersing climaxes in the books though, and I think his pacing is a little more brisk in Shadowmarch. But "brisk" for Williams is still very slow by modern fantasy author standards.

>> No.19257057

>>19256873
>But "brisk" for Williams is still very slow by modern fantasy author standards.
You're saying that as if it were a bad thing.

>> No.19257115

>>19256862
Akira Toriyama’s 1983 interview is insightful. I wish there was an interview about him and dragonball.
https://youtu.be/oVuwrWn-k-c

>> No.19257127

>>19257115
Wasn't he recently decorated with the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres?

>> No.19257181

>>19257127
Yeah, he's a Chevalier.

>> No.19257218

>>19257181
>he's a Chevalier.
Neat. Good to know at least one country recognizes his greatness.

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>>19253448
>What does warhammer 40K have that other sci-fi franchises dont?
A long list of books you can pick and choice. I'm set for life.

>> No.19257339

>The vanishing sun, whose disc was now a quarter concealed behind the impenetrable blackness of the Wall, had dyed the sky with Gamboge and cerise, vermillion and lurid violet. These colors, falling upon the throng of monomachists and loungers much as we see the aureate beams of divine favor fall on thaurnaturgic, as though they had all been produced a moment before by the flourish of a cloth and would vanish in the air with a whistle
Why does Gene Wolfe write like this? Is it really necessary?

>> No.19257350

>>19257339
>Why does Gene Wolfe write like this?
Write like what? Purple prose is a staple of Fantasy writing.

>> No.19257358

>>19257339
He overdosed on Proust

>> No.19257369

Been watching a few buschcraft videos, and I want to know if there’s a survival fantasy or science fiction stories. I am legend is one I’ve already read and I want to know if there’s more.

>> No.19257373

>>19257369
>buschcraft videos
Is that just like, a made up word for people camping?

>> No.19257388

>>19257373
>Bushcraft is the use and practice of skills, acquiring and developing knowledge and understanding, in order to survive and thrive in a natural environment.

>> No.19257389

>>19257358
Ya but this is just awful

>> No.19257446

>>19257388
So, a sort of survivalist story? Don't know any fantasy stories like that, though its a great concept.

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Any books you've finished lately that weren't worth reading?

>> No.19257494

>>19257487
Snow Crash

>> No.19257506

>>19257487
Not really a book, more of a web novel, but worm. Shit just kept going on and on.

>> No.19257533

>>19257487
What made it not worth it?

>> No.19257542

>>19257339
>Is it really necessary?
yes

>> No.19257584

>>19257542
How?

>> No.19257592

>>19257533
It's the most ridiculous shit. Reverse "If you give a mouse a cookie" instead of an actual plot. The main character has ridiculous powers of bullshito and absolutely everything that could go right does go right. Except he only went through all this trouble for a girl who NTRs him. It's just a shit sandwich.

>> No.19257601

>>19257592
>Except he only went through all this trouble for a girl who NTRs him.
Is this an actual thing outside of erotica and doujins? I thought shit like this would kill sells.

>> No.19257618

>>19257601
It was written by a woman

>> No.19257619

>>19257592
Please tell us the MC got mad at being NTR?

>> No.19257624

>>19257619
He was sad then went quietly back home just in time for the final verdict on his own trial where he makes the guilty party confess his crimes before he gets sentenced to death

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>>19257624
Is asking the Mc to take revenge for being NTR too much to ask? The fuck is that bullshit with being sad.

>> No.19257649

>>19257584
because it is

>> No.19257666

>>19257636
>Is asking the Mc to take revenge for being NTR too much to ask?
You got to go the self-publish route if you want that to happen. And even then, most people will view it as a revenge fantasy or some other bullshit.

>> No.19257703

>>19254576
That's me except I'm not regular

>> No.19257730 [DELETED] 

>>19257666
>revenge fantasy or some other bullshit.
This shit is so stupid. People who have been betrayed by a significant other would want to have their revenge. To state otherwise is just insane.

>> No.19257739

>>19257666
>revenge fantasy or some other bullshit.
This shit is so stupid. People who have been betrayed by a significant other would want to have their revenge. To state otherwise is just insane. Even the most onions of men seek revenge if their gf betray them. That’s how ingrained it is.

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>>19255122
chinese covers are better

>> No.19257759

>>19257748
We don’t care. Fuck off

>> No.19257766

>>19257748
>the prinCe of nothing
>that sickle
they're awfully... curved

>> No.19257775

Bros I am really starting to hate books with multiple viewpoint characters/plots. It reminds me of TV writing.

>> No.19257780

>>19257775
multiple pov is just a tool, if a writer sucks then they'll utilise it poorly

>> No.19257828

>>19257748
based

>> No.19257843

>>19257775
Name the ones you recently read. So we can avoid them.

>> No.19257863

>>19257057
Over a decade of trying to recommend Tad Williams to people has taught me that I have to preface my recommendations with warnings about the languid pacing of his books. Modern fantasy has conditioned them for quick, snappy plots that rapidly jump between perspectives and locations. Not really Williams' style. He does have multiple PoVs, but he spends a lot of time in a scene before moving on.

>> No.19257867

>>19257775
>author skips writing a scene and puts it in the gutter
>author teases you for an entire fucking book with a cliffhanger that he resolves easily when he finally gets his lazy ass back there

>> No.19257868

>>19257863
>He does have multiple PoVs, but he spends a lot of time in a scene before moving on.
Arguably the best thing to do as an writer. You have to establish scenes to sell it. Though I understand why you had to preface it.

>> No.19257899

>>19257867
Who does this?

>> No.19257907

>>19257899
George Martin. During the Game of Thrones, had Bran woken up from his coma and told Ned what happened, everything could have been avoided.

>> No.19257922

>>19257907
I ignore Martin. That guy made the lannisters have such unbelievable plot armor that it’s just downright bullshit.

>> No.19257930

>>19257922
>That guy made the lannisters have such unbelievable plot armor
I thought the one with the most plot armor was Daenerys? Dumb bitch did anything wrong that would kill other povs but she survived.

>> No.19257942

>>19257930
I liked how he made Catelyn literally retarded just to give the Lannisters a chance.

>> No.19257948

>>19257942
He fucked over Stannis so hard, it ain't even funny. Martin really wanted to have his edgy fantasy story where the heroes lose. Shame he fucked it up and lost track of the plot.

>> No.19257951

>>19257948
He's inverting tropes, chud.

>> No.19257958

>>19257948
>Shame he fucked it up and lost track of the plot.
Nah, the dumb fuck deserves it. He kept on subverting tropes just for the sake of it. And the most bullshit out of his writing is Daenerys is still alive.

>> No.19257968

>>19257951
Fuck off. >>19257958
>He kept on subverting tropes just for the sake of it.
I always wondered if he ever came to regret this. I always got a feeling he did.

>> No.19257988

>>19257968
>I always wondered if he ever came to regret this.
He came to regret not planning things out. Something he was proud of in the early years of writing his story. Now that his story has ballooned to such unimaginable length and he has now way to write it, he’s hoping death will take him.

>> No.19257990

>>19255836
Still better than whatever you ask.

>> No.19257992

>>19257990
Nah, fuck off.

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>>19257992
>"B-But why do you people keep derailing the thread"?

Eat shit, incel.

>> No.19257997

>>19257988
>Now that his story has ballooned to such unimaginable length and he has now way to write it, he’s hoping death will take him.
Why didn't any editors stop him? I thought that was their job?

>> No.19258000

>>19257996
>Thread finally has an on-topic discussion
>Ruins it.
Fuck off.

>> No.19258003

>>19258000
>"OH MAH GAWD, HE RUINED IT"
You are unironically pathetic.

Have sex.

>> No.19258006

>>19257997
>Why didn't any editors stop him? I
Clout, most likely. Martin did wrote the first three books in quick succession. And his books were big at the time.

>> No.19258009

>>19257997
if you get too big i imagine you can tell the editors to get stuffed. like he got so much prestige he edited that short story anthology and they made his name 3 quarters of the cover lol.

>> No.19258010

>>19256668
Is your cat sick?

>> No.19258012

>>19258003
Do you have any life outside of here? Because apparently this general is your entire life.

>> No.19258019

>>19258009
>he edited that short story anthology and they made his name 3 quarters of the cover lol.
You got any photos of it? I want to see it.

>> No.19258020

>>19257990
>>19257996
>>19258003
Based.

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>>19255042
>this is definitely not one person with severe autism obviously making the same post over and over again
They also samefag.

>> No.19258034

>>19258006
>>19258009
If clout stops editors from doing their jobs, why even have them in the first place?

>> No.19258042

>>19252566
So basically, if you're American, you can basically win any argument by virtue of being "oppressed"?

>> No.19258044

>>19258034
>why even have them in the first place?
Because most authors don't ever get that big. And its generally assume they at the very least, have an outline of the ending finish. Something Martin did had in the beginning, but threw it all away because he didn't like the idea of a time skip of 3-5 years. I think its why Arya's preview chapter was a bit risqué.

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Can't wait for the No-God to be released, bros. This general will literally go berserk.

>> No.19258069

>>19258067
Nobody cares.

>> No.19258072

>>19258067
kek
You can tell they're shitposting on that mac.

>> No.19258078

>>19258034
It's not just "clout", it's the ability to snap your fingers and have a multi-million dollar budget TV adaptation of your work offered to you and your publisher. When you have that kind of pull, you don't have to answer your editor's emails anymore.

>> No.19258080

>>19258067
at least we will have something interesting to talk about. he owes us at least 2 books. it would be nice if he at least updated his blog.

>> No.19258082

>>19258078
Didn’t the tv show kill any interest on the books with the bitch ending?

>> No.19258087

>>19258082
No, there's still a lot of people who are haranguing him to finish his books. He's basically stopped interacting with fans because of it.

>> No.19258095

>>19258080
>>19258067
Didn't some anon write him a letter a while ago?

>> No.19258097

>>19258087
>A dance with dragons came out on July 12, 2011
He's waiting for death to take him.

>> No.19258101

>>19258087
>No, there's still a lot of people who are haranguing him to finish his books
He had over a decade to finish one book. He has no reason to be this lazy.

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>>19258101
>He has no reason to be this lazy.
He's just fucking around at this point. Once he dies, someone else will have to write his story.

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>>19258107
Probably Sanderson.
Can't wait.

>> No.19258112

>>19258107
>Once he dies, someone else will have to write his story
Didn’t he say he will have someone burn his notes and shit?

>> No.19258114

>>19258112
>burn his notes and shit?
Never going to happen. Would be a waste of money.

>> No.19258115

>>19258114
Not to mention that has never worked before in the past.

>> No.19258121

>>19258107
I wish you’d post the one where he’s naked and jumping on a trampoline.

>> No.19258126

>>19258121
Never saved that one.

>> No.19258130

>>19258097
Game of thrones came out like in 1996.

>> No.19258134

>>19258130
>1996
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone came out like a year later and that's finish.

>> No.19258137

>>19258130
>>19258134
Didn’t someone made a list of series that started around the same time as a game of thrones and are now finish?

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>>19258019

>> No.19258141

New thread
>>19258140

>> No.19258142

>>19258137
I only remember the Harry Potter one.

>> No.19258145

>>19258139
Why is he like this?

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>> No.19258156

>>19257899
TV writers do this

>> No.19258162

>>19258141
And the bakkerfag is already samefagging.

>> No.19258167

>>19258145
maybe when your pink mast gets gobbled enough by everyone around you it can enhance your ego

>> No.19258175

>>19258162
>6 IPs
>One person

I accept your surrender.

>> No.19258213

>>19257775
it does kinda read like they're trying to get a tv show adaption too

>> No.19258292

>>19257968
>I always
You always say that.

>> No.19258299

I'm fairly new to Brain Sanderson's works and I've only just finished reading The Final Empire. I thought the plot dragged on for so long at some points. The pacing felt really off. Also I feel like he cant write romance for shit, the Elend-Vin relationship was so shit.
Is it worth continuing the series? I've heard that the second book is not that great but Hero of Ages makes it worth it. If its not worth continuing is "The Farseer" books worth a read?

>> No.19258404

>>19258299
Nothing is worth anything.

>> No.19258672

>>19252972
I do that all the time anyways