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What are some books that will convince me that Free Will exists? I'm really getting the feeling that I have no control over my environment

>> No.19240083

>>19240074
Epictetus. Free will exists in your ability to respond to the external world. You are a dog tied to a rolling cart. Your free will is the choice to trot alongside, or be dragged.

>> No.19240115

>>19240074
https://youtu.be/o0GN4urbA_c

It doesn’t exist. Sorry anon

>> No.19240130

>>19240074
thinly veiled non-lit thread

>> No.19240167

>>19240130
Sorry we don't exactly have a philosophy board

>> No.19240271

>>19240074
this reminds me of when I walked in on my dead roommate
i still have bad dreams haha

>> No.19240287

>>19240271
fr?

>> No.19241029

>>19240083
>Compatibilism
>Determinism with extra steps

>> No.19241057

>>19240287
yeah, it fucked me up. we were friends and he had just moved in with me a few weeks prior. I knew he was in a bad place but thought he was on the up, then one day I come home from work to a similar scene as in OPs pic rel
3 years ago next month

>> No.19241061

>>19240074
And yet, you ask.
Is it not proof enough that you have will? To question, to seek answers, and to be fullfilled with them or not?
You may say that you do not have free will in the greater picture, where you are but a cog in the machine, yet there are no real chains stopping you from going against it, preventing you from decrying it, and convincing others of the same, except your very own will. The same will that has been beaten since birth to not do these things, this is the only thing holding you: the domesticated, oversocialised will of yourself.

>> No.19241131
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19241131

>>19240074
>What are some books that will convince me that Free Will exists? I'm really getting the feeling that I have no control over my environment
That's a metaphysical question and therefore unanswerable (at least in a 4chan thread), however what causes you to feel like you have no free will or general control over your life is psychological. That's not to say non-existent, rather the opposite, the answer lies in self-reflection.

Read Jung.

>> No.19241161

>>19240074
Think real hard about what you wrote. Think real hard about what Free Will means.

>Free Will
Free will is an idea that there's a non-causal power within your body that generates non-causal actions.
Now think about what you just wrote.
>I have no control over my environment
That is the idea of "free will." Lack of control.

>B-but thats not
Thats why I said think REAL HARD. Our nominal sense of control is not based around non-causal actions. Its based around causal nature of events. If I'm hungry, I'll go eat some food. If I feel sleepy, I'll go to sleep. If I'm feeling bored, I'll look for something. If I see someone I love, I'll be happy. etc. All of our actions are causally connected events. Our notion of control is based around connecting the immediate causal events with our body.