/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19236908]

Books on this topic?

[Anonymous No.19236922]

>>19236908
>”authright”
>le chadface
>ESL
go back to r*ddit faggot

[Anonymous No.19236926]

>go back to r*ddit faggot

[Anonymous No.19236955]

Julian was a retard who wanted to LARP as Marcus Aurelius and failed horribly at it.

[Anonymous No.19237017]

>>19236908
>books on this topic
Stop using this board for your room temperature IQ, /pol/, 'theological' discussions.

[Anonymous No.19237068]

>>19236955
He was great at it though. Pretty much undefeated in battle until he died(in a battle his army technically won too).

He was the last great military emperor, larping or not.

[Anonymous No.19237096]

>>19236908
Lol Julian literally tried to rebuild the Jewish temple for Christ-hating Jews but God prevented it. Julian could never have won

[Anonymous No.19237110]

>>19236908
i like to move it move it

[Anonymous No.19237119]

>That's right, Julian. Help the jews rebuild their temple. That'll show those mean old xtians!.

[Anonymous No.19237142]

>>19237119
That is pretty bad but still not as bad as Christianity

[Anonymous No.19237177]

>>19237142
>claims

[Anonymous No.19237187]

>>19237142
>experts say

[Anonymous No.19237220]

There's the French New Right (Dominique Venner, Guillaume Faye, Alain De Benoist, ...). But they all convert to Catholicism before dying. We'll see of De Benoist does it too.

[Anonymous No.19237236]

>>19236908
Observing memes from their obscure birth and development from preestablished board culture either through the forced spam of one obvious autist or the movement of the collective board consciousness, to their entrenchment in the board culture to being mainstream somuchsothat they're known and used by all the normies of all ages you know and even in advertisements you see everywhere from the bus to posters to TV etc is a weird feeling.

[Anonymous No.19237246]

>>19236908
How does Julian repay the favor to Nordjack?

[Anonymous No.19237251]

>>19236908

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19237254]

>>19237119
Homosexuals and bisexuals have always existed. Centuries of repression under Christian rule doesn’t erase it, it just drive it underground to the point of making sexual predators. Your god is an idiot.

[Anonymous No.19237264]

>>19237220
When did Venner and Faye become Catholics?

[Anonymous No.19237266]

>>19237177
>>19237187
>polls

[Anonymous No.19237267]

>>19237177
>>19237187
>a survey
>a survey
>a study survey

[Anonymous No.19237268]

>>19237254
>Homosexuals and bisexuals have always existed.
Um, no sweaty

[Anonymous No.19237271]

>>19237254
You are the worst poster on this board, nothing you say makes sense, you don't even really answer the posts you mention. It's like you are alone, repeating the same nonsense over and over.

[Anonymous No.19237283]

>>19237264
Venner is not the best exemple, it's true. He didn't really convert (since he committed suicide) but late in his life he started to believe that Catholicism was the only answer for Europe. Other's of the same "mouvance" have converted, but I forgot their names.
Faye fully converted, see here (it's in French)
http://www.dominicainsavrille.fr/?ddownload=8949

[Anonymous No.19237285]

>>19237268
This is the first I’ve heard of this, explain

[Anonymous No.19237288]

>>19236908
The west died with Rome.

[Anonymous No.19237292]

>>19237254
Fags are sexual predators regardless.

[Anonymous No.19237293]

>>19237220
>>19237283

[Anonymous No.19237294]

You taking a lot of things for granted, but you’re going to want to skip the greeks for starters. That’s about all I can say for my part.

[Anonymous No.19237298]

>>19237142
>book claims
>publisher says

[Anonymous No.19237299]

>>19237298
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[Anonymous No.19237301]

>>19237293
Alt-right pagans like RIchard Spencer and literal faggot Greg Johnson are pro-vaxx.

[Anonymous No.19237313]

>>19237293
Faye talked abundantly about Vatican 2, these guys all converted to "traditional" Catholicism aka FSSPX or the likes.

[Anonymous No.19237316]

>>19237301
Spencer is a glowie and Greg Johnson might be too but he has at least crawled back and now has vaxx regret and has disavowed his previous statements. They are not pagans in the same way that Benoist is not pagan.

[Anonymous No.19237319]

>>19237283
Venner's suicide was a beautiful act. Shame about Faye, he was always a coward to some extent.

[Anonymous No.19237324]

>>19237301
These anglo spooks are nothing like the French New Right.

[Anonymous No.19237332]

>>19237254
Non-heterosexuality is just a social construct, I will at least admit that girl on girl is pretty hot. Thanks for making fap material for straight men.

[Anonymous No.19237333]

>>19237313
It's just scared old men. Catholicism will do nothing. It's pozzed to the core. If a truly well-meaning movement would emerge it would either be immediately disavowed by the Church or secede and be branded heretics.

[Anonymous No.19237338]

>>19237319
Death makes you consider things differently, plus you might learn that true Catholicism is not what you thought it was. Venner committed suicide in front of Notre-Dame and Faye cried when he learned that people were praying for his conversion.
And Venner was the coward since he killed himself, Faye fought when he was terribly sick and didn't have access to the hospitals.

[Anonymous No.19237353]

>>19237333
Catholicism created Europe and Europe is in its current state because the Church is undergoing its passion. Even Venner and Faye recognized that.

[Anonymous No.19237370]

>>19237353
>what is the Roman Empire
>what is Athens

[Anonymous No.19237375]

>>19237285
The modern conception of "sexual orientation" is fairly recent. While there have always been same-sex relationships (both romantic and erotic), the idea that one's preferences in this area are an aspect of one's identity (in the form of "homosexuality" or some such) is new. Imagine if we similarly classified people based on whether or not they enjoyed broccoli, with "broccoliphiles" seeing themselves as kindred spirits, forming their own organizations, being scientifically studied as a class, and so on.

[Anonymous No.19237392]

>>19237370
the same thing as America from 1945 to 1990, or the British empire, grand but deeply perverted

[Anonymous No.19237399]

>>19237353
Majority of good stuff happened after the Protestant Revolution.

[Anonymous No.19237402]

>>19237392
Lmao the absolute state of christcucks

[Anonymous No.19237408]

>>19237293
based pope

[Anonymous No.19237417]

>>19237408

[Anonymous No.19237420]

>>19237399
Like what? Socialist rebellions and usury?

[Anonymous No.19237426]

>>19237399
No, it only got worse. Catholicism did some things right because it has absorbed many pagan elements, protestantism is fully jewish christianity.

[Anonymous No.19237428]

The most conservative and reactionary people in Europe are practicing Catholics. Pagans are too busy sodomizing each other in the forest or living off welfare like Varg.

[Anonymous No.19237434]

>>19237428
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[Anonymous No.19237450]

>>19237420
>>19237426
You're on a literature board. 18th century to early 20th is peak humanity. Art, literature, music. No competition.

[Anonymous No.19237461]

>>19237450
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[Anonymous No.19237544]

>>19237375
I know I'm a pleb but it's surprising to learn Foucalt was redpilled on this, I just assumed he was a huge flag waving fag.

[Anonymous No.19237555]

>>19236922

[Anonymous No.19237607]

>>19237319
> blows his brains out in a church for no reason instead of facing his death like a man
> beautiful act
The word you’re looking for is “pathetic”, not beautiful

[Anonymous No.19237618]

>>19237402
You have nothing in common with and no relation to Romans or Greeks. I’m sorry to break that to you. It would serve you well to rid yourself of your pretensions and delusions.

[Anonymous No.19237623]

>>19237607
He did face his death like a man. He shot himself in the head. Why is clinging to life in a hospice more brave than that?
Also it wasn't for "no reason". He said France was too gay for him to going on living in it.

[Anonymous No.19237649]

>>19237618
And you have nothing in common with and no relation to actual historical christians. I’m sorry to break that to you. It would serve you well to rid yourself of your pretensions and delusions.

[Anonymous No.19237675]

>>19237450
12th the 16th Century was peak humanity. 18th was the beginning of globohomo clown world.

[Anonymous No.19237924]

>>19237375
>>19237544
This was the prevailing belief among gays in the 20th century. Gore Vidal famously asserted that, "There are no gay people, only gay acts."

Unfortunately, ideas like this were completely btfo when people finally figured out that arousal was a physiological response that could be empirically tested instead of being understood strictly through ahistorical speculation. Research methods like phallometry have produced no evidence of sexuality existing on a "spectrum".

[Anonymous No.19238027]

>>19237544
Foucault saw the future.

[Anonymous No.19238031]

Providence.

[Anonymous No.19238083]

>>19236908
"Julian the Apostate" by Merezhkovsky.

[Anonymous No.19238124]

>>19237119
>That's right, Julian. Help the jews rebuild their temple. That'll show those mean old xtians!.
...What's the joke? Yes, that would literally "show those mean old xtians". I'm baffled by your thought process here. Is it latent antisemitism? Because a strengthened Jewish religion for Jewish people would have certainly been at the expense of Christianity's success. Do you not realize how much the Romans revered Judaism above Christianity? Do you not realize how against Christianity the Jews were? Do you not realize that Judaism on its own posed literally no threat to Paganism? Why are you just equating Jews with Christians, retard?

[Anonymous No.19238129]

>>19237301
>these irrelevant nobodies said something

[Anonymous No.19238136]

>>5687372
>Immer diese stumpfe, von jeglicher sexuellen Komponente befreite Gewalt.

Für diese Leute ist Gewalt Arbeit, wie für dich deine Platinen. Das ist wie bei einem Schlachter für den die Elektrozange ein Werkzeug wie jedes andere ist, oder einen KZ-Soldaten der sich einfach nur freut wenn die Sonderzubendelnden nicht allzusehr aufmucken.

Für dich wäre das vermutlich eine so große Sache, dass du dich dabei einpissen und einscheißen würdest.

[Anonymous No.19238199]

Myth of the 20th Century by Rosenberg, unironically. This book is much underdiscussed and underread by this board and by evola/guenon soergs in general.

[Anonymous No.19238213]

>>19237375
That comparison seems very weak, how people act in the realm of human relationships is far more fundamental and affects many more areas of life than aesthetic preference over food. I've seen similar arguments from Christians comparing homosexual behavior to just another sin or bad preference like someone being predisposed to gambling or eating excessively. It's either deliberately undervaluing of sex/love/relationships or it's massively inflating the importance of trivial things, either way it's nonsense. I'm sure a married couple who has spent decades building a life together would say they would take a bullet for each other but I doubt many people would be willing to die over eating a piece of their favorite cake.

[Anonymous No.19238222]

>>19238199
Tell me about it

[Anonymous No.19238345]

/HDucjfq5
new pagan server, no /pol/tards

[Anonymous No.19238349]

>>19238345
>tranny server
No thanks

[Anonymous No.19238365]

>>19238129
>irrelevant nobodies
Like all neo-pagans.

[Anonymous No.19238386]

>>19237068
>He was the last great military emperor
that was majorian though

[Anonymous No.19238394]

>>19236908
>Nord vs Med shit thread

[Anonymous No.19238396]

>>19237402

[Anonymous No.19238581]

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[Anonymous No.19238593]

His final words
>Vicisti, Galilaee!

[Anonymous No.19238681]

>>19238581
And you have yet to conceal yours, rabbi.

[Anonymous No.19238746]

>>19237271
I kept saying shit like this too but it does nothing. Save your breath, anon. And always remember: don't feed the troons.

[Anonymous No.19238769]

>this happens
>the entire history of Western civilisation is the exact same but with Neoplatonism instead of Christianity
All hail the One

[Anonymous No.19238778]

how will westcels recover

[Anonymous No.19238797]

>>19238581
nationalism is not traditional, so is globalism, these two are of the same liberal spawn.

[Anonymous No.19238801]

>>19237428
What turns me away from Christianity is posts like this which endorse low IQ transparent propaganda in an attempt to hold the monopoly on spiritualism. Politically naive and strategically self-harming.

[Anonymous No.19238816]

>>19238801
>statistics
>propaganda
You just don't want be believe.

[Anonymous No.19238846]

>>19236908
watch this gospel video if you want to enter into the Kingdom of God /lit/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDI-VMydFlM

[Anonymous No.19238892]

>>19238801
In Islam, there is a concept of the Ummah, that is the community, where if a person or group is deliberately causing division among the community, they are able to be punished by the law accordingly. This is the fundamental defense mechanism of culture which liberalism and individualism has completely destroyed in the west. "the west" is not as strong as they used to be because everyone like (You) has their own opinions about what is "for the white man" and what isn't. Under traditional society, one or the other side will decide through battle which belief to implement, but liberal society has made cowards and traitors of the west, through their arrogance and unrelenting desire to be individuals, that in truth there is no higher divinity to serve but the "self", the best example of this is neo-nietzscheans who instead of organizing and cooperating, they opt for the "victory of the soul" or the "victory of the self" through bodybuilding and "self-help", which is a total cope. There is nothing "self-harming" about following your parent's views even if they're retarded protestant neocons, this is what maintains a militia, not guns or pitchforks. What's "self-harming" is bid'ah, or novelty, it doesn't matter if paganism is true or not, even from a utilitarian view, the west is cucking itself by destroying the very values they stand for, each passing year.

[Anonymous No.19239071]

>>19238801
You fags do nothing but sow division and act like your faggy little LARP circles are somehow key to reviving the west.

[Anonymous No.19239107]

>>19238846
Shit, this is real. The verses are literally not there. Wtf.

[Anonymous No.19239301]

>>19238681
>my proof that there's a vast asatru conspiracy to make me look crazy is a screencap from cripchan's /christ/ board back in 2015
holy shit lmfao

[Anonymous No.19239307]

>>19239301
> my proof that pagans false flag is an example of pagans falseflagging
> NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAAAT
not him but you're a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.19239327]

>>19239307
>O-OH YEAH? WELL I TOOK A SCREENCAP OF YOUR POST! WHAT'RE YOU GONNA D-
no so fast, autism-chan

[Anonymous No.19239482]

>>19237142

[Anonymous No.19239625]

>>19237375
So? Whether it's treated as an aspect of your identity or not, the preferences have certainly always existed, including those with a strong natural preference for the same sex or for both sexes.

[Anonymous No.19239634]

>>19239107
Is that because it was removed, or because later scholarship found it to be an interpolation in the first place?

[Anonymous No.19239671]

>>19237119
>>19237142
>>19237254
>>19237292
>>19237332
>>19237375
>>19237428
>>19237544

[Anonymous No.19239672]

>>19239625
Yes, filth has always existed

[Anonymous No.19239674]

>>19239625
>the preferences have certainly always existed
No one said they didn't.

[Anonymous No.19239680]

>>19236926
Kek'd good

[Anonymous No.19239689]

>>19239672
You talk like a girl. I want to overpower and sodomize you but that doesn't make me a "homosexual".

[Anonymous No.19239698]

>>19239689
Ookay retard

[Anonymous No.19239705]

How is this low quality off-topic troll thread still up?

[Anonymous No.19239709]

>>19239698
Faggot bottom

[Anonymous No.19239713]

>>19239671
That's why fag cities like San Franscisco are so successful and traditional and why Jewish media never promotes homosexuality.

[Anonymous No.19239721]

>>19239709
>Faggot bottom

[Anonymous No.19239722]

>>19239672
>I find it icky, therefore it's morally wrong
The morality of children and cavemen.

[Anonymous No.19239730]

>>19237428
Varg is playing the long game. He's force-multiplying and his 7 children will do the work for him.

[Anonymous No.19239731]

>>19239722
Are you better than caveman? Caveman would not eat shit nor get his dick covered in it, modern man does it all the time

[Anonymous No.19239746]

>>19239713
It needs a social structure, mythical role models, etc. If heterosexuality were robbed of all its rituals and ideals and forced into the shadows it would become equally debased—and in fact, nowadays, it has.
>>19239731
>Caveman would not eat shit nor get his dick covered in it
Don’t know where you get that idea. Sodomy is common among apes and tribals.

[Anonymous No.19239750]

>>19239731
>Caveman would not eat shit nor get his dick covered in it
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.19239752]

>>19239731
Neither do most gay people. Plenty don't even like butt stuff, and for those that do there are options like douching.

[Anonymous No.19239754]

>>19239671
Sorry slimebutt Im with the sandies on this one

[Anonymous No.19239761]

>>19239752
Bros wrestling would never be the same if theres a gay. Complete confidence adios.

[Anonymous No.19239764]

>>19239754
The Middle East was a bastion of homoeroticism in the Middle Ages. The peak of Muslim culture coincided with the apogee of Muslim homosexuality.
>>19239761
The Greeks didn’t seem to have any problem wrestling naked and slathered and oil with one another despite the omnipresence of pederasty in their culture

[Anonymous No.19239766]

>>19239746
>Don’t know where you get that idea. Sodomy is common among apes
Do you want to be an ape? you are not one.
>tribals
no.
>>19239750
>Modern people think caveman ate shit and fucked men all day
Neolithic soceity is far more accomplished than modern society

[Anonymous No.19239767]

>>19239754
The "sandies" literally wrote poems about wanting to fuck beautiful boys.

[Anonymous No.19239770]

>>19239764
>loser has to eat cum!
I would never wrestle again, Pappadolos

[Anonymous No.19239776]

>>19239767
Well then I'll write my own poems about the wonderful peace of abstinence and hang around sterile monks.

[Anonymous No.19239800]

>>19239766
>tribals
>no

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/136346158602300301?journalCode=tpsd
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2712682/
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/culturalanthropology/chapter/sambia/
https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1347&context=mjlr

[Anonymous No.19239826]

>>19239767
I'm not buyin because (((they))) are selling. Theres no one else around selling that kind or morality I naturally would request in a vaccum.
>>19239766
>do you want to be an ape
Im realizing Im the only one around mg IRL city spawn point who finds the game of cum guzzling a strong no. But then again my strong nos are also that I'm never at dance clubs or sports stadiums so how different is it? I bet they deny cum guzzling out of sheer peer pressure and could be corraled into doing it to cure the COVID19 Gamma variant. I'm equally disgusted and cloistered from it all. My God is not the obesiance of Abrahamic intimidation nor the intoxication of Hellenic horniness, but the Urge of pure wholesome Academy and striving. I just want a Vedic arranged marriage GF for Gods Sakes and a Goethe ethnostate so I can cheat on my hypothetical wife and become King of Germany for it. Being a D minus ascetic is the way. Basically the Boy Scouts and vanilla sex with women in a civilization that wont collapse. This way I can pied piper the real A plus ascetic fanatics to me. I'm reluctantly an A plus ascetic. Because Im poor and women are ruined. But if they werent ruined, I would ruin them. Because they are I am literally holier than thou, everyone (simps). I disrespect women and all affeminates for ruining my great civilization so smart and wise and caring now sleazy and dull and neurotic. I didn't ask for McThis

[Anonymous No.19239834]

>they hated him for telling the truth

[Anonymous No.19239838]

>>19239826
Homos created your civilisation, be more grateful. Even Goethe, the famous womaniser, liked boys

[Anonymous No.19239839]

>>19239826
>I'm reluctantly an A+ ascetic because I'm poor and women are ruined but if women were not ruined I would ruin them

[Anonymous No.19239845]

>>19239800
Sorry, i don't read modern literature. there is no need for sodomy in tribal society. in a society of 30 people and in dire conditions, reproduction is vital to survival. sodomy does not produce offspring and is detrimental to the health, and so is free sex which is why marriage and concubinage is a thing in most societies. In ancient records, the mention of sodomy only arises in technologically advanced and decadent civilizations. an example is the greeks, there is no mention of sodomy in the Iliad and the Odyssey, which was written during a "dark age", while there is plenty of records of sodomy during time of Alexander. Same with the Romans, who had not possessed sodomite behaviour before expanding their republic into Greece. There are even examples in the Bible and in records of post-medieval society primarily in Italy. The best example I can give is modern society, where technology has advanced so far that there is really no longer a need for individuals to reproduce and to actually care for survival, in other words, society is decadent. The emergence of homosexual behavior in society correlates with the increasing abstraction in art and increasing barbarian invasions, all these are symptoms of the same sickness which arises from technology.

[Anonymous No.19239850]

>>19239845
If I had the choice between giving a lifeboat to a pregnant mother or my gay lover, ....

[Anonymous No.19239855]

>>19239834
based Arius, but not as based as Newton

[Anonymous No.19239865]

>>19239834
>>19239855
https://www.heritage-history.com/index.php?c=read&author=pinay&book=plot2&story=arius
>Arianism, the great heresy, which split Christianity over three and a half centuries, was the work of a concealed Jew, who outwardly practised Christianity; a striking and infamous example of the descendants of Judas Iscariot, like all those priests who, as members of the "Jewish Fifth Column", have infiltrated into the Catholic Church.
>The well-known American writer, William Thomas Walsh, who is outstanding for his zealous Catholicism and has well documented works, says to us, referring to the mode of action of the Jews who infiltrated into Christianity, the following: "Arius, the Catholic Jew (Father of the heresy) treacherously attacked the divinity of Christ, and he was successful in dividing the Christian world for centuries."
>Arius was born in Libya, which at this time was under Roman rule. Already as a youth he joined himself to the schism of Melesius, who usurped the office of the Bishop of Alexandria; however, after the cause of Melesius had suffered severe setbacks, Arius was reconciled with the Church. It is well known how the Jews make use of such reconciliations with the Church, of which they say themselves that such were performed as true comedies, exactly as suits them.

[Anonymous No.19239868]

>>19239838
>all those locker room jokes were not jokes
>mfw

[Anonymous No.19239870]

>>19239838
some dude in antiquity fucking another dude in the ass has zero relation to the flaming faggot POZ bugchasers passing themselves off as humans these days, faggot.

[Anonymous No.19239873]

>>19239746
Faggoty is debased by it's very nature.

[Anonymous No.19239876]

>>19239845
So basically you refuse to read any academic or scientific source that could suggest you're wrong?

[Anonymous No.19239880]

>>19239865
>(((heritage-history.com)))
>(((Council of Nicaea)))
>((((Divinity of Christ))))

[Anonymous No.19239881]

>>19237271
This post describes butterfly pretty well: >>/lit/thread/S18884848#p18885560

[Anonymous No.19239884]

>>19239845
You have basically admitted to being a coper. You would rather invent just-so stories that comfort you based on no evidence than read empirical anthropological studies that contradict your views. You probably think this is somehow a “trad” attitude to take despite contradicting the entire spirit of Western intellectual inquiry from antiquity to the present—just look at the way the ancients (like Herodotus and Cicero and Sextus Empiricus) collected and documented the diversity of practices and beliefs among foreign civilisations, or the writings of Montaigne on the topic. You don’t even have to read “modern literature” to see evidence of tribal homosexuality. Our knowledge of Native American tribal homosexuality comes from 17th century colonists (the same goes for Africa), and men like Richard Burton were writing about Arabic and Pacific tribal practices in the Victorian era. Oh and yeah, what about the pederasty of the mountain tribes in Afghanistan?
>The emergence of homosexual behavior in society correlates with the increasing abstraction in art and increasing barbarian invasions
This is the exact opposite of what happened in Greece, where their culture transitioned from producing exotic abstract oriental type art in the ‘Dark Ages’ to the realistic depictions of the human form we associate with the heights of classical civilisation, at about the same time evidence of pederasty emerged in the 8th and 7th centuries BC. Not to mention the fact that religious medieval art was abstract and Renaissance—sodomite—art realistic. If you were at all familiar with traditionalist literature you would know that abstract (Platonic) art is considered pure and representational (realistic) art decadent, but you are just a two-bit American who thinks the kitsch of Norman Rockwell represents the highest achievement of Western culture.

[Anonymous No.19239886]

>>19239873
Then why has it been associated with the best and most productive periods (and individuals) in human history

[Anonymous No.19239887]

>>19239876
Yes, I trust my intuition and I do not wish to read texts written and distributed by Jewish institutions, as I do not trust ((academics)) to present accurate information as a result of their history of deception. Furthermore, I would not like to change my position, as my position, as of right now, is perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.19239891]

>>19239887
How do you know it's fine if you won't look at evidence to the contrary? If you refuse to look at evidence then 'my current position is fine' and 'my current position is stupid' both look the same from your perspective which means you have no way of telling which one is the case.

[Anonymous No.19239893]

>>19239838
I was like Lot leaving Sodom and Gomorrah. I know there's no amount of Suck and Fuck that would heal the souls of the men who lusted after men I grew up with. The more they give in to sexual urges the more hungrier their sexual desire will become until women are less desirable then men. My best friend in high school got a crush on me. I did not reciprocate. What happens then is no more pure relationships. Rome and Greece were not fully on board with the gay. They contained it and harnessed it with the tact and grace an ethnostate could handle that a multinational coercion prison does not.

[Anonymous No.19239895]

>>19239884
Yes, true evidence promoting bad behavior should be censored and ignored. You are actually right about art, art gets more realistic as society approaches decadence and gets more abstract as a dark age arises, which is why obsession in paintings are forbidden in Islam.

[Anonymous No.19239898]

>>19239891
Because my position agrees with the Word of Allah.

[Anonymous No.19239901]

>>19239893
You are presumably not gay, but if you had reciprocated your friends feelings, why would that be less “pure” than a devoted relationship between boy and girl? There is a reason the Thebans used male lovers as warriors, and why the Athenians considered Achilles and Patroclus lovers

[Anonymous No.19239902]

>>19239893
Brb sourcin my claim on Romans. Dont let this thread die on me.

[Anonymous No.19239903]

>>19239895
What lead to your value judgment that it is bad behaviour

[Anonymous No.19239904]

>>19239898
And how do you know it's the actual authentic word of Allah? Lots of texts have claimed to be divine revelation.

[Anonymous No.19239908]

>>19239903
Qur'an and Sunnah and instinct.
>>19239904
Through my study of the Qur'an and of the Word of God and through my teachers.

[Anonymous No.19239912]

>>19239908
How do you feel about the fact the medieval Muslim world produced more pederastic poetry than Ancient Greece

[Anonymous No.19239920]

>>19239908
And how do you account for the fact that there are others who have studied other religions just as in depth and remain equally convinced of them?

[Anonymous No.19239921]

>>19239912
"My God, I am not worthy of your heaven,
But nor have I the strength to be in your fire of hell,
So grant me repentance and forgive my sins,
For you forgive the greatest of sins,

My sins are as numerous as the sands,
So grant me repentance, O Possessor of Majesty,
And my lifetime decreases each passing day,
And my sins increase helplessly,

My God, I am not worthy of your heaven,
But nor have I the strength to be in your fire of hell,
So grant me repentance and forgive my sins,
For you forgive the greatest of sins,

My God, this sinful slave of yours is turning to you,
Truly, I have sinned and so I pray to you,
You forgive for you are worthy of forgiving,
But if you refuse, then who shall we hope for but you?

My God, I am not worthy of your heaven,
But nor have I the strength to be in your fire of hell,
So grant me repentance and forgive my sins,
For you forgive the greatest of sins."
-Abu Nuwas, claimed pederast poet

[Anonymous No.19239922]

>>19239901
Honestly should have given the guy a handjob for his troubles. That could have tamed him and fed him scooby snacks. I would then have license to beat him into submission and obey my commands. Instead he got face tattoos and rehab. If I just put out like a good ROMAN BVLL, EVROPA would not have lost one of her greatest chemists. My life has been like Guts. Harsh. Survival alone against the odds. I would have had my butt buddy side kick helping me if I just exchanged a little filth for his sake. Men are animals. Animals need be tamed but with treats. I haven't been lead by Guenon or Evola into the TRVDITION of BVTTSECKS so I tread on alone without faggy zoomer company. I wonder what the coomer batallion would be like.

[Anonymous No.19239924]

>>19239920
Because I have trust and faith in God and in my judgement

[Anonymous No.19239925]

>>19239921
So how does it feel knowing that the same people who wrote such heartfelt verse also wrote poems about boys and wine and sodomy

[Anonymous No.19239928]

>>19239925
The same as they themselves felt, disgust.

[Anonymous No.19239931]

>>19239924
Why do you have trust and faith in God?

[Anonymous No.19239934]

>>19239931
Then, who else shall I trust?

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>>19239928
>Disgust
Wrong. No sense of shame, no unease, no motion of concern for religious prohibition affected the exuberant descriptions of the male beloved or the passionate love displayed by the poets for him.

[Anonymous No.19239941]

>>19239938
>>19239921

[Anonymous No.19239947]

>>19239934
What can you observe with your senses and reason, what's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.19239953]

>>19239947
The position of the Ash'ari is that reason alone, though important, is not sufficient for gnosis(irfan) in the realization of the non-duality of God(tawhid).

[Anonymous No.19239957]

>>19239953
Doesn't that sound exactly like what someone who's trying to pull one over on you would say?

[Anonymous No.19239960]

>>19239957
That is an extremely liberal and modern thing to say. When I was in school I was told to do as I was told. Perhaps your upbringing was different.

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>>19239938
I appreciate the guiltless freedom. I feel the same liberation and traditional legitimacy as a cannabis cultist listening to the Rig Veda and Elusinian Mystery Pythagoras.

Disgust is natural to all sexual displays not to one's sexual taste because sex is publicly jealous and posessive. All females feel strong disgust to suitors unreciprocated. Sex is inherently a deceptive temptation game. There is no intrigue free sexual relationship outside of extreme brevity. There is never a fair prospect of exciting someones passions in equal measure to your own let alone for a series of excitements. There are many intrigue free friendships and business partners. Mild yes. I want my foreskin back. I can afford some extra sauce on my ethnostate if those fags stop fighting for Mexicans and Muslims.

Everyone who is brainwashed NPC is an insufferable faggot in my eyes so literal faggots get a get out of jail free card in my book and promoted to General. I think it's inconceivable to the majority of men bought off by PUSI inc that there will always be a subset of men whose happiest relationships are not with women despite men always complaining about women and praising each other.
What if Globohomo wasn't gynocratic and neurotic? What if Globohomo was manly? Would we complain? What if women are next after BLM?

[Anonymous No.19240019]

>Half the posters ITT

[Anonymous No.19240054]

>>19237450
Sure, but was that a result of Protestantism? Most of the art and culture of that era was in Catholic or Orthodox countries. Sure, Britain, the Netherlands, and northern Germany were industrial powerhouses, but the best art of the era was from France, Italy, Austria, Southern Germany, Russia, etc.

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>>19236908
You are a product of the west's decline, not a solution. You are nothing but an antithesis.

[Anonymous No.19240128]

>>19240091
>posts a children’s toy

[Anonymous No.19240138]

>>19240128
yah, thats the point.

[Anonymous No.19240139]

>>19239880
Not an argument. Or even a premise.

[Anonymous No.19241091]

>>19238797
Wanting Europe to be white is not nationalism. A Traditional Europe is many different European peoples and cultures in their own regions.

[Anonymous No.19241093]

>>19238681

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>>19237068
>last great military emperor
Besides the guy who came right after him and had to mop up his shit he left.

[Anonymous No.19241148]

>>19236908
You probably already read this. If not you're in for a treat.