Has anyone read this?

[Anonymous No.19221473]

What do you think? Can you recommend me more books like it?

i.e, about banks—Frederick Soddy
i.e about social credit—C. H. Douglas

pound also critizes marx a lot in this book, but his criticism seems flimsy to me. I doubt a poet could understand an economist.

[Anonymous No.19221513]

>>19221473
I wouldn't take anything a poet has to say about economics and politics seriously.

[Anonymous No.19221537]

>>19221473
Eustace Mullins was Pound's protege when it comes to his understanding of economics and the Jewish central banking system. the best one to start with is called "Secrets of the Federal Reserve"

[Anonymous No.19221543]

>>19221473
>marx
>economist

[Anonymous No.19221547]

>>19221473
Well there was a political party that actually formed provincial government in Canada without achieving much like most right wing populist grifters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Social_Credit_Party

>>19221537
Yikes

[Anonymous No.19221550]

>>19221513
Oh yeah cause economics and politics are sooo complicated

[Anonymous No.19221560]

>>19221513
>I wouldn't take anything a poet has to say about economics and politics seriously
Why not?
>>19221537
I've read Mullins but he is too America centric.

[Anonymous No.19221576]

all the New Age fags were into Social Credit, the editor pushed it heavily. Pound was part of that crowd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Age

[Anonymous No.19221578]

>>19221547
>populism
>chr*stian
>right wing

[Anonymous No.19221585]

>>19221576
Okay so what does this tell me though.

[Anonymous No.19221593]

>>19221547
>pic related
holy shit

[Anonymous No.19221603]

>>19221550
from CANTO XXXVIII

A factory
has also another aspect, which we call the financial aspect
It gives people the power to but (wages, dividends
which are power to buy) but it is also the cause of prices
or values, financial, I mean financial values
It pays workers, and pays for material.
What it pays in wages and dividends
stays fluid, as power to buy, and this power is less,
per forza, damn blast your intellex, is less
than the total payments made by the factory
(as wages, dividends AND payments for raw material
bank charges etcetera,
and all, that is the whole, that is the total
of these is added into the total of prices
caused by that factory, any damn factory
and there is and must be therefore a clog
and the power to purchase can never
(under the present system) catch up with
prices at large,

and the light became so bright and so blindin'
in this layer of paradise
that the mind of man was bewildered.

[Anonymous No.19221611]

>>19221585
the wiki lists a whole bunch of writers

[Anonymous No.19221623]

>>19221603
>and the power to purchase can never
>(under the present system) catch up with
>prices at large
Isn't this the exact thing Marx was saying in Kapital?

[Anonymous No.19221627]

>>19221550
>>19221560
Poets are faggy and spoiled.

[Anonymous No.19221640]

>>19221623
Maybe i don't know. My interpretation of the canto is that Pound saw all that economic mumbo-jumbo talk as obfuscation.

[Anonymous No.19221656]

>>19221603
doesn't rhyme, isn't poetry

[Anonymous No.19221665]

>>19221627
And what about economists and politicians?

[Anonymous No.19221670]

>>19221473
It's shit

[Anonymous No.19221683]

>>19221473
Yes. He correctly identifies the nature of fiat.

[Anonymous No.19221690]

>>19221640
From what I read he is clearly saying that workers will never be able to afford to purchase the products which they produce.
>>19221670
Why is it shit?
>>19221683
The problem isn't 'fiat' but that that every Fiat in circulation needs to be borrowed by someone. All money is debt.

[Anonymous No.19221693]

>>19221578
I don't know what you're getting at. Evola isn't relevant to anything in an Anlgo context. I'm just posting a government got elected on a social credit platform and it played out rather lame

>>19221585
Not him but it's where the ideas were originally floating around. Most of the Fabians of course latter became quite found of Stalins experiment in the USSR.

Also FYI Douglas had some polemics with better known economists like J. A. Hobson:

https://archive.org/details/cu31924013919976/page/n5/mode/2up

[Anonymous No.19221695]

>>19221656
He does make good use of alliteration of the letters "b" and "p" to create a hammering sound. Combine that with the heavy use of repetition and punctuating stressed syllables surrounded by unstressed syllables and it sounds a lot like a factory.

[Anonymous No.19221719]

>>19221693
>I don't know what you're getting at. Evola isn't relevant to anything in an Anlgo context. I'm just posting a government got elected on a social credit platform and it played out rather lame
I posted Evola because you called a bunch of Christian Populists right wing.
>Most of the Fabians of course latter became quite found of Stalins experiment
The Fabians must've been retarded then. Stalin's experiment was literally state monopoly capitalism achieved on a mass pile of bones.

[Anonymous No.19221811]

>>19221719
>I posted Evola because you called a bunch of Christian Populists right wing.
Which is correct in the Anglo context? Populist movements tend to be right wing and they also tend to get the wool pulled over them by politicians who don't end up delivering.

>The Fabians must've been retarded then. Stalin's experiment was literally state monopoly capitalism achieved on a mass pile of bones.
Well most conspiracytards interpret them as Machiavellian evil not retarded. The most important bones Stalin built on top of came from physically eliminating the archetypal internationalist Jew Trotsky.

[Anonymous No.19221958]

>>19221811
>Which is correct in the Anglo context? Populist movements tend to be right wing and they also tend to get the wool pulled over them by politicians who don't end up delivering.
No it's not 'right-wing', your conception of 'right-wing' is a false and erroneous one.
>Well most conspiracytards
Fuck off
Sheila Fitzpatrick's 'Everyday Stalinism' and Lynne Viola's 'Peasent Rebels Under Stalin' go into what I am asserting.
Trotsky was closer to Marxism than Stalin was but that's not saying much considering Bolshevik hostility to non-bolshevik worker and peasant movements. Voline's 'The Unknown Revolution' goes into that.