/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.19213492]

Dragon's Flame edition

Previous Thread:>>19200742

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Archive
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>Goodreads
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>A link to the ultimate colossal science fiction and fantasy collection torrent
>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
Never going to be created.

[Anonymous No.19213495]

KING

SIMPLE AS

[Anonymous No.19213497]

It's not too late for /gfg/

[Anonymous No.19213513]

>Wracu (also known as Dragons) are immense, fire-spitting winged reptilian monstrosities created by the Inchoroi during the ancient Cûno-Inchoroi Wars to destroy the Nonmen Qûya, then subsequently wielded by the No-God during the Apocalypse. Very few are thought to have survived. However, those that yet live have become colossal in size, as Wracu never stop growing.

>Wutteät is the Father of Dragons and claims to have ridden in the Ark with the Inchoroi before they crashed on Eärwa.

>According to Drusas Achamian, Wracu are lazy and selfish creatures when not being driven by the No-God’s will. Immortal, they see little benefit in attacking Men, as humans will simply replenish their numbers through breeding.

[Anonymous No.19213521]

Daily reminder to start with the Darkness that Comes Before.

[Anonymous No.19213526]

>>19213521
Truth

[Anonymous No.19213533]

>>19213495
>>19213513
>>19213521
>>19213526
>6 posts
>4 ips
someone is working overtime on their latest narrative

[Anonymous No.19213540]

>>19213533
We accept your defeat.

[Anonymous No.19213554]

Anybody got recommendations for a fantasy story with a male hero who isn't a wimp or lgbt?

[Anonymous No.19213569]

>>19213554
>>19213521

[Anonymous No.19213570]

>>19213492
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZxxxLTtyDVVR/

This is a documentary on Fauci and AIDS

[Anonymous No.19213575]

>>19213554
The Second Apocalypse, unironically.

[Anonymous No.19213603]

>>19213533
My IP stands with Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19213606]

>>19213533
Kinda pathetic when you think about it. But hey, it’s not like they have a life outside of shitting up these threads.

[Anonymous No.19213670]

>>19213521
I just did. I'm actually enjoying it too.

[Anonymous No.19213671]

>>19213575
>>19213569

but all of the main characters there are either wimps or have sex with men

[Anonymous No.19213677]

>>19213671
I wasn't talking to you, chud.

[Anonymous No.19213684]

>>19213575
>>19213569
>>19213671
WHO DO I BELIEVE?

[Anonymous No.19213686]

>>19213684
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19213788]

[Anonymous No.19213814]

>>19213482
Xeelee sequence of you haven't already. Good SciFi, a future history spanning from Roman era to the heat death of the universe.

[Anonymous No.19213824]

>>19213788
Opens with a 50 page info dump, terribly dull. Has a lame and unsatisfying ending. Most of the stuff in the middle is really quite good. 4/10

[Anonymous No.19213895]

>>19213526
We need to fix this.

[Anonymous No.19213901]

Daily reminder that this happened.

[Anonymous No.19214106]

>>19213901
Based

[Anonymous No.19214143]

Don't read Powder Mage trilogy. Waste of time, waste of few really good ideas.
What to read as a palate cleanser after that?

[Anonymous No.19214155]

>>19214143
So you read fantasy book with guns, how are you surprised?

[Anonymous No.19214265]

>>19213671
They don't have sex with men they fuck men.

[Anonymous No.19214307]

>>19213554
i currently read one based on the recommendation here: blacktongue thief, tone wise sounds like an updated locke lamorra
>Kinch Na Shannack owes the Takers Guild a small fortune for his education as a thief, which includes (but is not limited to) lock-picking, knife-fighting, wall-scaling, fall-breaking, lie-weaving, trap-making, plus a few small magics. His debt has driven him to lie in wait by the old forest road, planning to rob the next traveler that crosses his path.

But today, Kinch Na Shannack has picked the wrong mark.

Galva is a knight, a survivor of the brutal goblin wars, and handmaiden of the goddess of death. She is searching for her queen, missing since a distant northern city fell to giants.

Unsuccessful in his robbery and lucky to escape with his life, Kinch now finds his fate entangled with Galva's. Common enemies and uncommon dangers force thief and knight on an epic journey where goblins hunger for human flesh, krakens hunt in dark waters, and honor is a luxury few can afford.

[Anonymous No.19214317]

>>19213554
otherwise just read older stories seeing the current state of fantasy, two that i would recommend would be
planet of adventure- jack vance
tuf voyaging - grrm

[Anonymous No.19214348]

>>19213554
some other not much recommended:
thune's vision
lies of locke lamorra
a canticle for leibowitz
cugel's saga
nifft the lean
emphyrio

[Anonymous No.19214655]

What happened to this general?

I remember when it was full G.R.I. in here.
Did Reddit finally take over?

[Anonymous No.19214808]

>>19213901
4 bakkerfags with vpn

[Anonymous No.19214816]

>>19214655
>Did Reddit finally take over?

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________unironically yes_________________________________________________________________________________________

[Anonymous No.19214835]

>>19214808
You only need one, but that poll wouldn't differ by much, even without a VPN.

[Anonymous No.19214913]

>>19213554
The Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.19215030]

>reading through the Dragon Reborn
>not a single chapter in the first third of the book so far is a Rand POV
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
death to the Aes Sedai

[Anonymous No.19215272]

>>19215030
>Reading shit
Not my problem, senpai.

[Anonymous No.19215305]

>>19213492
does anyone have a link to old numbers of the SF EYE magazine from the 80s/90s?

[Anonymous No.19215436]

>>19213526
It's amazing how wrong this chart is lmao

[Anonymous No.19215632]

>>19213526
We should have a neutral space axis in between as well.

[Anonymous No.19215881]

>>19215030
Rand is almost totally absent from that book and when he does show up it's from other character's perspectives mostly. However this is the only book with this gimmick. Rand's PoV features in every book after it, though the side plot bloat gets so extreme he never really dominates the way he did in the first few books

[Anonymous No.19215908]

>>19214143
You bothered to continue after the first book? I stopped after book 1 cause I felt like the author tipped his hand too early and had squandered my patience with his unlikable cast of characters.

[Anonymous No.19215923]

>>19214835
There are more votes for Bakker than unique IPs these threads get over several days. They couldn't have made it more obvious that they spammed the poll with a VPN.

[Anonymous No.19215960]

>>19215881
FUCK. at least I actually enjoy the Mat and Perrin POV chapters so as long as the side plots remain on characters I like fuck the Aes Sedai then I probably won't mind it. the "i wish *childhood friend* was here, he always has a way with girls" that the three of them do is such a stupid gag but I love it every time Jordan uses it.

[Anonymous No.19216032]

After TTT I'd side side with Consult that K*llus

[Anonymous No.19216053]

>>19213492
All /sffg/fags must hang

[Anonymous No.19216054]

>>19213684
they arent sjw "lgbt" they are HARD GAY. Like cnaiur. They dont suck, they fuck and rape both women and men

[Anonymous No.19216061]

>>19215923
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19216079]

>>19215923
That poll was around for at least a month.

[Anonymous No.19216099]

>Death came swirling down.

[Anonymous No.19216113]

>>19215923
So you're saying that Bakkerchads aren't only most numerous, but also most dedicated?

[Anonymous No.19216139]

>>19215923
Cope: >>19216079

[Anonymous No.19216144]

>>19215923
Name another /sffg/ author with as many original memes as Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19216224]

I'm currently on the fourth book of The Wheel of Time and I'm getting fed up with the dynamics between Moiraine and literally every other character. I'm talking about everyone complaining that she's trying to manipulate them or not giving enough information and her occasionally getting pissed off at them.
Without telling me who is in the right there, will this go on for much longer?

[Anonymous No.19216228]

>>19216224
That was the book where I dropped the series altogether.

[Anonymous No.19216269]

>>19216224
I'm only on the third book but based on there not even being a hint of change in her attitude and treatment of the others so far I'd wager she's a cunt through to the very end

[Anonymous No.19216310]

>She started reading the Waste of Time because of the TV Series trailer

[Anonymous No.19216315]

>>19216310
Nothing wrong with that, chud. >>>/r/gatekeeping.

[Anonymous No.19216325]

>>19216310
Unironically this. Imagine wasting your time on one of the worst series in the entire genre.

Can't wait until they start bitching about it.

[Anonymous No.19216352]

>>19213554
The Knight and the second part, The Wizard

[Anonymous No.19216445]

>>19216310
>>19216315
>>19216325
Well how are we supposed to know until we've read it? Should I take the word of anonymous autists on a canadian trout milking forum and base my opinion of the series on that?

[Anonymous No.19216532]

>>19213492
>not!Book Club
now:
songs of a dead dreamer and grimscribe https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611567-songs-of-a-dead-dreamer-and-grimscribe
the dark eidolon and other fantasies https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18143067-the-dark-eidolon-and-other-fantasies

nov 1: assassin's apprentice https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77197.Assassin_s_Apprentice

[Anonymous No.19216678]

>>19216445
They're shitposters who don't read books, just ignore them.

[Anonymous No.19216696]

>>19215960
Well that gag isn't going away. Though you should know that Perrin disappears entirely from Fires of Heaven (book 5), he's just not in it. I wish I could say most of the side characters are interesting, but sadly a lot of them are Aes Sedai. Even the ones who aren't Aes Sedai get tiresome, like Gawyn, and the ones who are actually interesting, like Pedron Niall, get written out of the story.

[Anonymous No.19216705]

>>19216445
Not my problem.

>>19216678
No, I just don't read shit series.

[Anonymous No.19216712]

>>19216705
You don't read anything but like 3 different books.

[Anonymous No.19216737]

Hi folks, do (you) want help keep /sffg/ good?

What's that, Jimmy? You want to help? Good lad.

Gather round, gather round. Now, listen up kids, this is how you can help.

1. Do not under any circumstances reply to Bakker posts.
2. Hide Bakker posts as soon as you see them.

Bakker posters are doing it on purpose to make /sffg/ a nasty place and they are baiting people into replying to them. Don't fall for their tricks. Together we can help make /sffg/ a better place.

Ain't that right, Jimmy?

[Anonymous No.19216745]

>>19216737
Thank you for advertising my favorite author for free.

[Anonymous No.19216749]

>>19216712
That would make it three more than you, then.

[Anonymous No.19216918]

>Shit ton of hard to remember fantasy names on page 1 of 572
>In book 1 of 3
Does this man have an editor?

[Anonymous No.19217059]

>>19216918
Is this you, Karen?

[Anonymous No.19217078]

>>19216918
>Yet another gets filtered
You literally can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.19217171]

>>19213495
Based.

[Anonymous No.19217172]

>tfw when your shit author was the only one that put effort into his smut books
Fuck E William Brown for not releasing.

[Anonymous No.19217210]

No wonder people keep praising Bakker in this thread. Every other living /sffg/ author is shit when compared to him.

[Anonymous No.19217279]

Books with succubi? Preferably not coomer shit, I want to see how other authors have handled them and how they're defeated. The only thing I can think of is out-fucking them, which just seems vulgar.
I don't want to go to /x/ for this.

[Anonymous No.19217310]

>>19217279
Go to /x/

[Anonymous No.19217316]

>>19217279
>Books with succubi?
>not coomer shit
Retard.jpg

[Anonymous No.19217323]

Books with succubi that are coomer shit? Asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.19217384]

I'm learning Unity right now. I want to make a vidya based on the Second Apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.19217633]

>>19217384
You're lucky it doesn't take any talent or skill to produce shitty, obtuse video games.

[Anonymous No.19217638]

>>19216918
>this is the shit bakkerfags jerk themselves off over

[Anonymous No.19217649]

>>19217059
>>19217078
Still incapable of handling the slightest criticism I see.

[Anonymous No.19217716]

Can anyone recommend something like the Expanse as far as world building, but minus all the space zombie alien crap?

[Anonymous No.19217719]

>>19217716
>Expanse
>Except only the shit parts of Expanse

[Anonymous No.19217837]

>>19217649
What was the criticism? Too many words?

[Anonymous No.19217846]

>>19213492
Hypothetically speaking could I get sued for including hobbits as a race in my writing if I try to sell it

[Anonymous No.19217847]

>>19217384
You wouldn't have been able to produce anything good using that piece of malware even if you were a skilled programmer and not an amateur.

[Anonymous No.19217854]

>>19217837

Kek. No sir. I just figured something billed as "hard sci-fi" by the majority wouldn't have space zombies in it. Nothing personal. It's a fun read but I was looking for something more in the realm of reality.

[Anonymous No.19217863]

>>19217633
Not all unity games are bad, it just has a low skill floor and easy asset access so people can pump out garbage games if they wanted to.

[Anonymous No.19217894]

>>19216918
Edited for american audiences

>2016 Year-of-Donald-Trump, McDonalds of Chuck E.Cheese

>Disneyland succumbed during the height of Trump's Presidency. But no army of Alt-right zombies had staged a protest there. No fascist walked unvaccinated through it's mighty gates. Disneyland was the secret refuge of Liberal Democrats, and no one, not even Alex Jones, could uncover a secret.

>Months earlier, Barack Obama, the High Liberal of New York, hed fled to Disneyland with the remnants of his party. From the walls, his mighty trans allies stared penisively across the dark parking lots below, dilating in the meantime, their thoughts stricken by the memories of hate speech and unmasked chuds

>Covid-19 claimed the High Liberal first, as was perhaps fitting since he was black. Rest of Power Kang. Before the morning, Corona struck more, soon the trannies were gone too, joining the statistical numbers.

[Anonymous No.19218092]

>>19216315
go and stay go faggot.

[Anonymous No.19218118]

>>19217846
LOTR will become public domain in a few years.

[Anonymous No.19218213]

Just finished project hail mary
andy weir is becoming a one trick pony

[Anonymous No.19218226]

>>19218118
I seriously doubt the Tolkien Estate will let it become public domain but damn can you imagine what would happen if it did

[Anonymous No.19218232]

>>19217846
just call them halflings

[Anonymous No.19218255]

>>19217846
just call them semiguys

[Anonymous No.19218262]

>>19217846
just call them quartersquats

[Anonymous No.19218379]

>>19217846
just call them eighthmates

[Anonymous No.19218724]

>>19218118
Ha ha, yeah, no. Disney has normalized eternal extensions.

[Anonymous No.19218862]

>>19218724
Disney actually lapsed on renewing their copyright on Micky Mouse. However it doesn't really matter since with all the trademarks that Disney has on their property, it'll be damn near impossible to actually sell anything Micky-related. And trademarks don't expire, unlike copyright.

[Anonymous No.19218921]

>>19214655
Oldfags leave after having to put up with retarded newfags and the threads become unrecognizable. This happens with every general.

[Anonymous No.19218940]

>>19217846
Just call them manlets.

[Anonymous No.19218996]

Don't read Mother of Learning if you're arachnophobic.

[Anonymous No.19218997]

>>19217894
Holy shit this was good

[Anonymous No.19219292]

>>19218226
get ready for 200 indie lotr steam games released every year

[Anonymous No.19219295]

>>19219292
sounds kino

[Anonymous No.19219304]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCuSHngMy-g

[Anonymous No.19219309]

>>19218118
>few years
Here's for the US
> So, under the copyright law at the time of publication, the copyright duration is 95 years.
>The Hobbit was published in 1937, so copyright lasts through 2032.
>Fellowship of the Rings was 1954, so it goes into the public domain on Jan 1st 2050.

[Anonymous No.19219322]

>>19217649
>Implying that is a valid form of criticism
It's just you projecting your low IQ.

[Anonymous No.19219538]

>>19213492
What's a good looong easy reading fantasy series that isn't the wheel of time? I've already read that series like, 5 or 6 times. It isn't healthy, I need to read something else.

[Anonymous No.19219555]

*mogs all your favorite worldbuildings*
Nothing personnel kids

[Anonymous No.19219634]

>>19219538
malazan

[Anonymous No.19219637]

>>19219634
isn't that reputed to be rather tedious?

[Anonymous No.19219659]

>>19219634
its long but not easy to read, its the exact opposite in fact. bad recommendation

[Anonymous No.19219720]

>>19219538
Discworld

[Anonymous No.19219742]

I have like 5 fucking Audible credits, please recommend me some enjoyable genre fiction audio books quick!!!

[Anonymous No.19219758]

>>19219742
listening to recursion and dark matter by blake crouch and project hail mary by andy weird has been an amazing experience for me, its like they were written for audiobooks. finished project hail mary in 2 sittings, very gripping and enjoyable stuff

[Anonymous No.19219775]

>>19219538
There is no hope for you.

[Anonymous No.19219809]

>>19217316
None of the Victorian horror authors riffed on that one part of Dracula?

[Anonymous No.19219862]

>>19219637
i never found it tedious
>>19219659
it's extremely easy to read

[Anonymous No.19219885]

>>19219637
Malazan isn't amazing or anything, but it's miles above fucking the fucking Waste of Time.

[Anonymous No.19219893]

>>19219538
Why should we bother recommending good series to people like you?

[Anonymous No.19219909]

>>19219634
he meant good

[Anonymous No.19219914]

>>19219909
maybe you should recommend something then

[Anonymous No.19219935]

>>19219909
What books do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.19219945]

>>19219935
>>19219914
Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.19219953]

>>19219945
This, Malazan is too much like Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19220067]

>>19219945
>>19219953
BaSeD

This is now a Sanderson Thread.

[Anonymous No.19220119]

Anyone know a good guide for worldbuilding SFF?

[Anonymous No.19220187]

>>19220067
>BaSeD
Bakkertards DESTROYED by right winged Sanderson

[Anonymous No.19220193]

>>19220187
Yikes!

Get out of here, /pol/chud. Sanderson is lgbtq+ friendly.

[Anonymous No.19220203]

>>19220193
cope left winged Bakkertard, this is a Sanderson thread for right winged chads

[Anonymous No.19220212]

if you read Bakker you are left winged and an AnCom libertardian

Traditional anons read Sanderson for Christian morals and traditions

[Anonymous No.19220215]

>>19220212
Wizard of truth! Sanderson is Trad!

[Anonymous No.19220216]

>>19220193
devout mormon AND lgbt friendly? maybe I didn't read much into his works deeply but I wouldn't consider him left wing

[Anonymous No.19220221]

>>19220216
he is just coping because Bakker is left leaning and Sanderson is right leaning. he can't get out of this one.

[Anonymous No.19220226]

>>19220221
BaSeD

[Anonymous No.19220242]

>>19220193
This, but unironically. He even pushes gay characters into his novels making them almost like caricatures for trying so hard.

[Anonymous No.19220244]

>>19219945
sanderson's books are long and simple but stormlight archive isn't even halfway done

[Anonymous No.19220254]

>>19220244
>simple
It's called YA.

[Anonymous No.19220265]

>>19219945
>sandersoy
Opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.19220273]

>>19219945
You need to be 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.19220320]

Cosmere shit makes so much more sense when you realise Sanderson is a mormon.

[Anonymous No.19220399]

>>19220212
>Mormon
>Christian

[Anonymous No.19220405]

>>19217894
lmao even the AI is into it

[Anonymous No.19220504]

>>19217649
>criticism
>"brain hurty :( "
The author doesn't expect you to remember most of the names in the prologue anyway.

[Anonymous No.19220533]

>>19220265
>leftist Bakker
opinion discarded.. libtard

[Anonymous No.19220547]

when you realize Bakker supports Hard Gay Rights and pushes them in his novels making them like caricatures

[Anonymous No.19220567]

>>19220547
He supports hard gay rights and lefts. KAPOW!

[Anonymous No.19220591]

I am a Bakkerchad but I also read Sanderson as a light reading, one that you can just read through easily as its so basic.

[Anonymous No.19220615]

You know Bakkerchads, we might we fighting an old enemy here. Maybe Sandersoys never gave up. Instead of saying that Bakker is shit and Brandon is king, they only say that Bakker is shit and giving no alternative that could be shot down. Every thread is just people praising Bakker or talking about gay rape.

Know your enemy. If they don't give an alternative, they are giving nothing.

[Anonymous No.19220662]

>>19218092
Make me, chudcel.

[Anonymous No.19220679]

>>19220547
Does that surprise you? Rightoids can't into art.
In order to make good art you need creativity and an open mind. People who make it a point to hate on women and minorities typically have neither. This post is unironic.

[Anonymous No.19220704]

Yes Bakker's TSA is my favorite fantasy series how could you know?

[Anonymous No.19220796]

>>19220704
because you are Hard Gay

[Anonymous No.19221024]

>>19216310
I started it last year but got bored halfway into book 1

[Anonymous No.19221038]

>>19220796
That's not the same person.

[Anonymous No.19221077]

>>19221038
why are you ashamed of your Hard Gayness? embrace it

[Anonymous No.19221087]

>>19220679
Hating women and minorities is actually the thing that requires an open mind today, as the average person refuses to even entertain such thoughts.

[Anonymous No.19221264]

>>19221087
That's a rather bad argument really.

[Anonymous No.19221292]

>>19221264
It isn't, you've just been programmed to think you're on the side of "freethinkers" when the only thoughts you are capable of are those that are socially and politically acceptable.

[Anonymous No.19221311]

Using the power of free thought I have come to the exactly the same positions as those currently advocated by my nation's cultural, political, and economic establishment.

[Anonymous No.19221338]

>>19221292
>>19221311
Tell us more. The left are the real fascists, am I right?

[Anonymous No.19221376]

>>19221338
An acceptable expression. Your social credit score has increased by 1.

[Anonymous No.19221378]

>>19221087
true, being hard gay requires an open minds while the straights live in the women matrix

[Anonymous No.19221393]

>>19221378
Based Bakkerchad, we hate women and love hard men

[Anonymous No.19221426]

>>19221087

[Anonymous No.19221449]

>>19213513
>Created during the cuno-inchoroi wars
>Were already on the Arc when it crashed hundreds of years before the inchoroi ever met the nonmen
U wot M8?

[Anonymous No.19221482]

Bakkerchads, remember to defend the best Novel ever created, The Second Apocalypse, post even when you are driving! never stop making sandersoys eyes pop, seeing Bakker face makes them seethe, seeing a chad makes them seethe because they are soii drinkers.

[Anonymous No.19221486]

>>19214655
>What happened to this general?
>I remember when it was full G.R.I. in here
We finally drove the redditors back to their home realm. There are a couple who escaped the gas chambers, but we keep them around almost like pets now. Their coping and seething amuse and titilate our newfound inchoroi sensibilities.

[Anonymous No.19221499]

>>19221486
Damn straight we drove them back, we just kept some of them so we can jerk off our Inchoroi cock and coom all over the thread when they try to resist our Inchoroi basedness.

[Anonymous No.19221502]

>>19221486
Based. plebit tears will fall when they lay their eyes on this wicked Inchoroi mockery of them.

[Anonymous No.19221511]

>>19213492
Why do we have to share a general with fantasyfags?

[Anonymous No.19221524]

>>19221511
you will always come back to Bakker general, we are KINGS!

[Anonymous No.19221538]

>>19220405
>>19217894
I DEMAND MORE

[Anonymous No.19221551]

>>19221538
haha the wojak is sucking an Inchoroi cock

[Anonymous No.19221559]

>>19221511
>another uppity sci-fi serf
Feel free to make your own general. It'll be, what, the fifth attempt at sci-fi fags to make a separate general due to their totally unwarranted sense of self importance? I look forward to you crawling back to this general on your belly, like a worm.

[Anonymous No.19221572]

>>19221559
he is also anime, may Bakker have mercy

[Anonymous No.19221573]

>mentally ill bakkertrannies shitting up the thread extra hard again

[Anonymous No.19221584]

>Henry continued, “And what’s notable about this run of the book; its a prequel to the age that we’ve seen in the films and in the books. It’s about the early days of the Shire and Tolkien’s environment. It’s the early days of it, so we’re an indigenous population of Harfoots, we’re hobbits, but we’re called Harfoots. And we’re multi-cultural. We’re a tribe. We’re not a race. So there are black, Asian and brown, and even Maori types within it.”

Wow. Maybe I should reread Tolkien's works, I don't remember this part.

[Anonymous No.19221586]

>>19221573
>>19216737

[Anonymous No.19221592]

>>19219322
>severe autist confuses wading through tedious exposition with being intelligent
many such cases

[Anonymous No.19221597]

>>19221584
NOOO they will make Tolkien pozzed and sjw, this will never happen to Bakker

Bakker>Tolkien

[Anonymous No.19221598]

>>19221586
Ignoring hasn't worked for the last almost 11 months now.

[Anonymous No.19221605]

>>19221584
Just wait for Amazon to weasel their way into publication rights and release their own editions that have been edited to be more lore-friendly with the show :^)

[Anonymous No.19221621]

>>19219637
>tedious
Nigger, you just said you REREAD the wheel of time. Malazan was made for Sandersoids like you

[Anonymous No.19221622]

>>19221605
Wait until they ban Bakker for being based

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.19221668]

>>19213492
Skullsworn, Chronicle of the Unhewn Throne - Brian Staveley (2017)
This is a standalone prequel to the trilogy. As there is minimal overlap and few references it can be read entirely by itself. The protagonist, a secondary character in the trilogy, is an initiate undergoing a trial to become a full priestess to the god of death. The simplest way to understand them would to be to think of them as assassins, though that wouldn't be quite accurate.
If this wasn't influenced by Assassin's Creed, I would be rather surprised. One of the synopsis for the next book even starts with comparing it to Assassin's Creed. It's not a strong influence, but it seemed obvious to me, especially a certain chase scene that could've been right out of one of the games. This was also released some months prior to AC: Origins, which is set in Egypt and this takes places in a river delta, though that's also descriptive of AC: Liberation which features New Orleans.
Unlike the trilogy this isn't epic fantasy. It's a small scale story that excluding the opening and flashbacks takes place in a single town and its surrounding environs. There isn't any magic, ancient artifacts, or momentous events. There's just a list of people who need to die on a deadline. It's closer to being a fantasy mystery thriller than a standard fantasy.
The ending was adequate despite being constrained by being a prequel, though I think a lot of the constraints were self-imposed by the author. It may be also setting up some background information for the second trilogy, so although it's standalone I don't see any reason not to read it if for anyone who has read the trilogy.
The First Law Trilogy had three books between its trilogies and that could've worked well here as there are several interesting secondary characters that would've been suitable for their own book. I certainly would've read them if they had been written.
I feel like I often assume too much is an intentional self-reference rather than part of the story. There's a few consecutive pages where there are multiple self-references in a row that address what seem to be common criticisms against the author, especially of his first book. If so, are they also meant to be self-deprecating in-jokes? I don't know.
As for the next trilogy, it's more likely than not I'll read the first book sometime this year, but I have to wonder if waiting would be a better idea so that I forget less.
Rating: 4.5/5

[Anonymous No.19221674]

What are some of the popular and/or critically acclaimed fantasy titles to have been released in 2020-2021?

[Anonymous No.19221684]

>>19221674
*cricket noises*

[Anonymous No.19221687]

>>19221674
Piranesi

[Anonymous No.19221694]

>>19217649
Filtered

[Anonymous No.19221700]

>>19221538
This image is simply too based.

[Anonymous No.19221758]

>>19221674
lol

[Anonymous No.19221764]

>>19221674
>popular and/or critically acclaimed
I usually run away from those.

[Anonymous No.19221771]

>>19221426
Lefty Sandersöi projects his insecurities. It's like clockwork

[Anonymous No.19221881]

>>19221771
Left wings destroyed with facts and logic, Bakkerchads win again.

[Anonymous No.19222162]

>>19221598
Because faggots don't ignore them.

[Anonymous No.19222197]

>be me
>leave /sffg/ for months
>stop back to see how you faggots are doing
>….
>aaand i’ll check back in another six months.

the thread has been shit for how long now?

[Anonymous No.19222206]

>>19222197
feels like im on /jp/

[Anonymous No.19222218]

>>19222197
Pretty much since November of last year, so almost a full year of bakker autists shitting it up.

[Anonymous No.19222238]

>>19221674
The only fantasy books published in the last couple years that I've read are from authors I've been reading for several years. I don't know if they have any acclaim though.

[Anonymous No.19222262]

>>19221674
New York Times Best Selling series Cradle

[Anonymous No.19222277]

>>19222218
Jokes on you, I’m one of the original bakker posters, I made the alignment chart and everything. This thread has been intolerable and unusable for months so I just avoid it. I mostly left /lit/ for /tg/ anyway; much more fun and gentlemanly board, not a bunch of shitflinging schizos like the anons here in this madhouse.

[Anonymous No.19222288]

>>19222277
checked
also yes, it's very revealing when /tg/ is the board to go to when you want some actual discussion; just shows you how far /sffg/ and /lit/ in general has fallen

[Anonymous No.19222309]

>>19222288
>88
Bakker number! Heil Bakker, the right winged writer

[Anonymous No.19222347]

>>19222309
Heil Victory to the Bakker legion!

[Anonymous No.19222355]

>>19214307
>girl knight
Dropped. I don't understand why people put up with such obviously dopey stuff.

[Anonymous No.19222367]

>>19220679
>why don't practical men with valuable skills spend their lives writing genre fiction and making toys?

[Anonymous No.19222454]

>>19214307
>girl with vagina
Dropped. I don't understand why people put up with such obviously dopey stuff.

[Anonymous No.19222472]

>>19222367
>practical men don't spend writing, they just jerk off to Blacked.com and say nigger in 4chan

[Anonymous No.19222508]

>>19222472
colonized.com maybe

[Anonymous No.19222514]

>>19222367
Unironically, we need more fantasy authors who view writing fiction more as a craft, rather than something to fulfill their own fantasies and make money; Le Guin and Lewis knew this, they were fascinated with the concept of fantasy fiction and what it could accomplish.

[Anonymous No.19222621]

>>19222514
Alas, all the world's a scam and the men and women merely grifters.

[Anonymous No.19222626]

>>19221292
this is some "conservative is the new punk rock" shit
anon you're a guileless twit and all your beliefs are outmoded hand-me-down bullshit. having a persecution complex does not mean you're not a conformist.

[Anonymous No.19222853]

>>19222367
Gene Wolfe and Cixin Liu are both legit engineers and have locally typical conservatard political views. Probably better than half the SF greats are man's man sorts.

[Anonymous No.19223058]

Read my novella. That will be 4.99 please. Plus tip.

[Anonymous No.19223157]

>>19222262
Based

[Anonymous No.19223196]

>>19221584
>Harfoots
>indigenous
Didn't all the Hobbits migrate from a now forgotten eastern homeland?

[Anonymous No.19223265]

>>19223196
it's not like the people that write that shit have ever read the books, at best they watched the movies but more likely they just read a summary on wikipedia

[Anonymous No.19223387]

>>19222626
I've said nothing about my own beliefs -- only yours -- and you've done nothing to disprove what I said. You can't, of course, because it's true. "Open-minded" = only entertaining acceptable establishment positions. "Close-minded" = entertaining thoughts that are not acceptable. That is the current de facto meaning of those terms.

[Anonymous No.19223477]

>>19221292
No, I meant it's a bad argument because it can be easily used to argue for for the stuff you probably don't agree with. The "open mind" is a bad argument in general.

[Anonymous No.19223633]

>>19223058
Furfag in my apartment complex does this unironically. Like, I live 2 doors down from you nigger. At least give me a promo copy if you want Amazon reviews.

[Anonymous No.19223667]

>>19223633
Does he look like this?

[Anonymous No.19223692]

>>19223667
If he gained 150 lbs recently. This is the alpha furfag they're aping?

[Anonymous No.19223766]

Read normal fantasy
>Protagonist is a weakling who never really gets stronger in any way and needs to be saved
>Gets into relationship with a 13th century feminist and respects her
Read Litrpg
>Protagonist gets stronger at a steady rate
>Has a harem of cute and submissive girls, who hate feminism, into him
Why is litrpg so much better than regular fantasy?

[Anonymous No.19223791]

>>19220254
By YA I'm assuming you mean Yondala Agronomy?

[Anonymous No.19223794]

>>19221538
pretty sure that bakker should be the one sucking the cock there given his personal predilections

[Anonymous No.19223870]

>>19223766
Post-2010 Hugo / Nebula winners aren't normal.

[Anonymous No.19223881]

>>19213513
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wracu

[Anonymous No.19223882]

>>19223766
incel wish fulfillment?

[Anonymous No.19223925]

>>19222626
He’s right though. Otherwise prove you’re open minded by describing two negative things about black people

[Anonymous No.19223934]

>>19223882
projecting much fatty?

[Anonymous No.19223957]

>>19223766
LitRPG may be trash but the authors know they're writing a book to appease the reader, not critics

[Anonymous No.19224031]

What's that bitch Sandy up to? I wait so long for these stormlight/Mistborn books goddamn!

[Anonymous No.19224070]

>>19224031
I'm writing as fast as I can you little shit.

[Anonymous No.19224132]

>>19218940
>>19217894
Kek

[Anonymous No.19224144]

>>19223934
He's right though. The premise that you can gradually grow from incel to God Emperor is a lie. You only ever become more what you always were. The protagonist in most good fantasy stories was always turbochad and has to learn that everyone else isn't.

[Anonymous No.19224149]

>>19224144
>fantasy
do you not understand this word?

[Anonymous No.19224151]

>>19221087
They hated him because he spoke the truth.

[Anonymous No.19224160]

>>19222626
Conservatism is, in fact, the new punk rock. Deal with it, cope, seethe, et cetera.

[Anonymous No.19224164]

>>19224160
oh, i'm so cool, I don't do what the media or government tells me. oh look at me hating all these corporations that makes me punk

[Anonymous No.19224205]

>>19224164
Define punk.

[Anonymous No.19224207]

>>19224164
Yes.

[Anonymous No.19224320]

>The story just has straight up D&D spells like "Fireball" at "3rd circle"
I am fine with this

[Anonymous No.19224325]

>>19224149
Better than you. Go read Dunsany and see what he thinks of wish fulfillment.

[Anonymous No.19224396]

>>19224031
Apparently done with WW4 but its still up for revision. Wax Wayne has been lackluster and im reading(or listening) more for Cosmere completion's sake. SA however is legit great and looking forward for the apparent 2023 (sad!) release. Maybe we get the Elantris/Warbreaker sequel before then.

[Anonymous No.19224405]

>>19224031
he's writing 50 space books for children

[Anonymous No.19224429]

Can't wait until Ken Liu's new book, been waiting on The Veiled Throne for a while now. Most peoplehave only read the stuff he translated like The Remembrance Of Earth's Past trilogy.

[Anonymous No.19224431]

>>19224325
>Better than you
I very much doubt that

[Anonymous No.19224475]

>>19224429
>Ken Liu's new book,
Sell me on him. What's good about Ken Liu?

[Anonymous No.19224493]

>>19224475
Different anon.
No, you don't actually care.

[Anonymous No.19224509]

>>19224475
Good writer, can’t recommend him enough. His best book series by far is The Dandelion Dynasty. Shame it never gets any mention here.

[Anonymous No.19224530]

>>19224509
That's his only book series.

[Anonymous No.19224549]

>>19216918
Is this the fantasy equivalent of brisk money?

[Anonymous No.19224560]

>>19224530
Doesn't refute him, anon.

[Anonymous No.19224575]

>>19224549
>brisk money?
I made the mistake of looking that up.

[Anonymous No.19224605]

>>19223766
Authors are actually writing for their audience and nothing more.

[Anonymous No.19224622]

>>19223766
>Litrpg
Recommend a few, been meaning to finally read them just to see what they're about.

[Anonymous No.19224632]

I've got ideas for a story and a fantasy/sci-fi world, but I worry what I'm planning is too out there for most people to get invested in. How do I best get people comfortable in my world/story quickly?

[Anonymous No.19224634]

>>19224632
By writing.

[Anonymous No.19224640]

>>19224634
So, just don't worry about it?

[Anonymous No.19224653]

>>19224640
Pretty much, unless you want to be like the "writers" of /wg/ in that you can't write because you worry about every minute detail.

[Anonymous No.19224655]

>>19224653
I feel like I’m more worrying about general narrative approach. But I get your point.

[Anonymous No.19224665]

>>19224655
>I feel like I’m more worrying about general narrative approach.
This is what I'm talking about and I'm glad you understand it. That's something you should be worried about that during the redrafts, not before it. Just get your story written first and foremost.

[Anonymous No.19224675]

>>19224632
Write several short stories about the world, before writing the main story. That’s what I’m writing.

[Anonymous No.19224680]

>>19224632
>I've got ideas for a story and a fantasy/sci-fi world, but I worry what I'm planning is too out there for most people to get invested in.
No joke, give us a glimpse on what you’re writing. Because, if I were a betting man, you’re worrying over nothing.

[Anonymous No.19224695]

Bakker-esque picture, just like that one scene with Kellhus and the dickgirls, being conservative is the true rebellion and punk attitude

[Anonymous No.19224710]

>>19224632
>How do I best get people comfortable in my world/story quickly?
Is your book just about worldbuilding? Because this is a weird question.

[Anonymous No.19224718]

>>19224680
The setting is an alien world, a tropical paradise where technology has developed down biological path. Cloning is a commodity, as are vat grown prosthetics, living ships to sail the seas, and even a few species designed by extra dimensional mega corporations. The second great power in the world, behind the influence of these bio tech institutions is that of psychic power. Guilds of psion sorcerers ply their skills to the highest bidder, psychic crystals grow fleshforms for their wandering agents, and even basic flora and fauna make revolutionary use of psychic energies in their circle of life.

And that’s not counting the various sapient species inhabiting the world, both natives and members of unknown species dragged accidentally into this world from other realities. Memetic dragons. Living slime. Cannibal amphibians. Shark men. Sapient crystals. Even flightless feathered raptors. Creatures of every shape and size, and every one of them is just trying to get by and make a buck in a world where life has no intrinsic value.

The one friend I talk to about this described it back to me as “psychic crystal cyberpunk, flesh-horror edition”.

[Anonymous No.19224729]

>>19224622
Meet the alexes: a gun from core adventure
Castle Core: A slice of life Town building LitRpg
My boss is a monster girl
Arthur Mage
Growth Hero

[Anonymous No.19224733]

>>19224729
>Meet the alexes: a gun from core adventure
Meet the Alexes: A Dungeon Core Adventure

[Anonymous No.19224740]

>>19224718
>scifi if he meat instead of metal
Peak creativity

[Anonymous No.19224750]

>>19224718
sounds metal. Embrace the psychic crystal cyberpunk, flesh-horror edition

[Anonymous No.19224759]

>>19224718
Did Terry Patcher influence you or something?

[Anonymous No.19224785]

>>19224740
I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not.
>>19224750
Will do! I’ve always worried about being respectable as a writer, but I’m starting to realize people gravitate towards outlandish bullshit that’s fun over crap that tries to be adult.
>>19224759
I’ll admit, I’m a big fan of his. I’m not sure what of mine made you think of him though?

[Anonymous No.19224790]

>>19224785
>I’m not sure what of mine made you think of him though?
It read like a darker and grimmer Discworld.

[Anonymous No.19224802]

>>19224790
I guess I’ll just have to take that as a complement. Unintentional as any of that might be.

[Anonymous No.19224808]

>>19224802
Didn’t mean it as an insult. Really what tip me off was the bio tech institutions and the guilds of psions.

[Anonymous No.19224830]

>>19224632
Its not your ideas, or your planning or your lack thereof.
You're either writing towards something deeply profound and prolific, or something that will fly off the barnes and noble shelves to eventually be adapted into a netflix special, or, most likely, something that will never see actual print and is destined to drown silently in the amazon ebook marketplace. Pick two and only two and only if you actually write the thing.

[Anonymous No.19224841]

>>19224785
>I’ve always worried about being respectable as a writer, but I’m starting to realize people gravitate towards outlandish bullshit that’s fun over crap that tries to be adult.
Good. Shit that tries to be adults are always shit.

[Anonymous No.19224869]

>>19224830
You have a idealistic view in writing novels.

[Anonymous No.19224891]

>>19224718
Are you planning on traditionally published your story? Or are you going the self-publish route?

[Anonymous No.19224908]

>>19219538
Discworld

[Anonymous No.19224923]

>>19224320
Was there ever a problem with that?

[Anonymous No.19224942]

>>19224718
Anon, I’m right. You’re worrying over nothing. Just write it.

[Anonymous No.19224953]

>>19224632
>>19224718
If you want to test the waters of your story, I suggest publishing a portion of it on one of those websites like Royal Road, wattpad, etc.

[Anonymous No.19224969]

>>19224953
>Royal Road, wattpad
Doubt that would help him. I tried a website called tapas.io and it’s heavily bias towards certain genres.

[Anonymous No.19224972]

>>19219720
>>19224908
thank you frens

[Anonymous No.19224978]

>>19224972
Hope you enjoy your reading.

[Anonymous No.19225006]

>>19224969
You're competition with other novice authors for a finite reader pool. It was bound to happen. But you shouldn't let that discourage you.

[Anonymous No.19225020]

>>19225006
Not him, I’m just saying telling him to post his work in those sites might not help him. So it felt like insincere advice.

[Anonymous No.19225051]

>>19225020
>So it felt like insincere advice.
It really isn't. Its the best way to see if his story has any broad appeal.

[Anonymous No.19225063]

>>19225051
Except those websites are dominant by certain types of genre that makes it extremely difficult to get any following

[Anonymous No.19225070]

>>19225063
An excuse by those who don't even bother trying and quit before they even begin. Mother of Learning is one example, and the most famous one.

[Anonymous No.19225076]

>>19225070
Hitting yourself with a brick wall, just for the off-chance of making it isn’t worth the effort, much less the perceived failure someone would get.

[Anonymous No.19225083]

>>19225076
Going to royal road and checking the complete sections ruins that assessment.

[Anonymous No.19225086]

>>19225083
And again, just because a few made it doesn’t mean other will also.

[Anonymous No.19225089]

>>19225086
Jesus Christ, having some chance in succeeding is better than none, and stop being such a fucking pessimist.

[Anonymous No.19225092]

>>19221538
SANDERSOYS BTFO

[Anonymous No.19225110]

>>19224205
>punk
a worthless person

[Anonymous No.19225116]

>>19224429
>The Veiled Throne
>Princess Théra, once known as Empress Üna of Dara, entrusted the throne to her younger brother in order to journey to Ukyu-Gondé to war with the Lyucu. She has crossed the fabled Wall of Storms with a fleet of advanced warships and ten thousand people. Beset by adversity, Théra and her most trusted companions attempt to overcome every challenge by doing the most interesting thing. But is not letting the past dictate the present always possible or even desirable?

>In Dara, the Lyucu leadership as well as the surviving Dandelion Court bristle with rivalries as currents of power surge and ebb and perspectives spin and shift. Here, parents and children, teachers and students, Empress and Pékyu, all nurture the seeds of plans that will take years to bloom. Will tradition yield to new justifications for power?

>Everywhere, the spirit of innovation dances like dandelion seeds on the wind, and the commoners, the forgotten, the ignored begin to engineer new solutions for a new age.
Seems interesting.

[Anonymous No.19225119]

>>19225116
>Ukyu-Gondé
God, it reminds me why I stopped reading fantasy for a bit. How do people come up with dumb names like this?

[Anonymous No.19225126]

>>19225119
>How do people come up with dumb names like this?
Naming fantasy characters and location requires little to no creativity.

[Anonymous No.19225129]

>>19225089
I’m just being a realist with the chances. It’s going to happen.

[Anonymous No.19225133]

>>19224972
You should also read Malazan when you have the chance.

[Anonymous No.19225138]

>>19219538
Any book by Abercrombie

[Anonymous No.19225142]

>>19225138
preferably the Shattered Sea series.

[Anonymous No.19225149]

>>19223957
This. Not to mention the authors knows their markets.

[Anonymous No.19225150]

>>19224632
I'll read it.

[Anonymous No.19225152]

>>19217279
>Preferably not coomer shit, I want to see how other authors have handled them and how they're defeated. The only thing I can think of is out-fucking them, which just seems vulgar.
Are you gay or something?

[Anonymous No.19225155]

New thread
>>19225154

[Anonymous No.19225439]

>>19216224
No.

[Anonymous No.19225984]

>>19225116
If you haven't read any of The Dandelion Dynasty books I definitely recommend them, The Veiled Throne is the last in the trilogy, looks pretty good & it's got me wondering how will it end.