/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.19189266]

Air Canal edition

Previous Thread:>>19173288

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>A link to the ultimate colossal science fiction and fantasy collection torrent
>>>/t/1023504

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[Anonymous No.19189283]

>>19189266
Any fantasy/science fiction horror for the month?

[Anonymous No.19189296]

>>19189266
bakker

[Anonymous No.19189298]

A horror recommendation: The Fisherman by John Langan

[Anonymous No.19189310]

>>19189298
The gist. I seriously loved this book. A little bit of Lovecraft and a bit of Pet Semetary.

[Anonymous No.19189317]

>>19189310
Didn't upload for some reaosn.

[Anonymous No.19189330]

>>19189317
>upstate new york
>in the woods around woodstock
i literally used to live there and yeah the woods are creepy as fuck. swear i’ve heard voices moaning, crying and screaming in the middle of the night almost every night. gonna have to read this book anon

[Anonymous No.19189365]

>>19189298
>>19189317
>>19189330
Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll read it when I have the time. But I have to ask, do you got anymore recommendations that fall under magic realism? Since this is October, I kinda want to read modern folklore of cryptids and other modern state folklore like the Michigan Dogman, the Illinois Enfield Monster, etc.

[Anonymous No.19189447]

Any science-fiction or science fantasy novels like the OP pic?

[Anonymous No.19189473]

>>19189447
Cradle

[Anonymous No.19189566]

>>19189283
Blindsight is a really good spooky scifi

[Anonymous No.19189589]

>>19189447
The Incal if youre illiterate like me

[Anonymous No.19189607]

>>19189266
>not!Book Club
now:
the scar https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68497.The_Scar
songs of a dead dreamer and grimscribe https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611567-songs-of-a-dead-dreamer-and-grimscribe
the dark eidolon and other fantasies https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18143067-the-dark-eidolon-and-other-fantasies

nov 1: assassin's apprentice https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77197.Assassin_s_Apprentice

[Anonymous No.19189609]

>>19189296
uhhh hello, cringe department???

[Anonymous No.19189800]

>>19189609
Yes what's the matter?

[Anonymous No.19189806]

>>19189800
banana penis

[Anonymous No.19189821]

Any vampire enjoyers?

[Anonymous No.19189833]

>>19189821
loved that book. read it after watching the american movie. might have to re-read it soon.

[Anonymous No.19190070]

Been trying out various fantasy titles from the library... I just blunder from book to book, and it all just doesn't grab me at all, just feels so flat and/or derivative... and so much of the new stuff is so poorly written it's hard to believe the writers are grown adults.
Maybe it's time to move on from fantasy for a decade or so, the pool is stagnant and full of vermin.

[Anonymous No.19190121]

>>19190070
If a book is bad I just read it faster.

[Anonymous No.19190282]

what makes a good sci-fi book, is it;
The world building
The plot
The characters
The interesting explanation and application of technology
The sociological element of fictional cultures

Some or all of the above ?

[Anonymous No.19190288]

>>19190282
None of those matter if there's no cute anime girls.

[Anonymous No.19190295]

>>19190282
Depends on the book and the author. If an author has something interesting to say I will listen, whether that something is a weird science idea or a certain character in a certain scenario.

[Anonymous No.19190313]

>>19190282
an intriguing concept that is adequately presented, could be aliens or technology or biology, pretty broad.
characters to explore and be affected by that concept, whether they're experts or everyman standins, people to have direct interactions
then broader implications of that concept for a group or concept

[Anonymous No.19190540]

>>19190282
either the plot and/or the characters have to be good or the rest doesn't matter, unless it's both extremely well written and imaginative.

[Anonymous No.19190573]

>>19190295
>>19190313
what are your thoughts on Peter F Hamilton's earlier body of work's? (not his more recent wokebux chasing stuff preferably)

[Anonymous No.19190792]

>>19189298
>>19189310
>>19189317
Sounds cool, I'll check it out. Thanks for the rec anon

[Anonymous No.19190798]

>>19190573
sorry i haven't read any of his stuff. looking over his work it sounds kinda space opera? i'll read salvation and see how it is

[Anonymous No.19190908]

Based

[Anonymous No.19190912]

>>19190908
cnauir would kill every man in this room with his bare hands at the same time

[Anonymous No.19190917]

>>19190912
Didn't ask.

[Anonymous No.19190926]

Average sci-fi fantasy universe creation

>Case plonked the blarg into the dreklifier.
>His primflark twitched.
>The astrohark exploded in a trimgraff rainbow of kertron rizbit colours.
>The modified yajmork he bought from that kid down in Asspull was top notch.

[Anonymous No.19191013]

>>19190926
It's true, every SFF novel I've read follows this pattern.

[Anonymous No.19191157]

has anyone else had problems with book deliveries the past few weeks? I ordered a book mid september, it got to a distribution center one step away from my local post office and seems to be in limbo ever since

[Anonymous No.19191165]

>>19190926
*laughs in new sun*

[Anonymous No.19191171]

>>19190926
>>19191013
name 250 books

[Anonymous No.19191188]

>>19191157
yeah, Amazon prime, instead of taking 3 days tops (like it used to) takes upwards of 7 days. Ebay, Abebooks, Thriftbooks, all of websites I order from now take at least two weeks *minimum* to deliver shit

[Anonymous No.19191196]

What translations of Verne should I read?

[Anonymous No.19191273]

>>19191171
I typed up a list but 4chan said the post was too long. Sorry bro.

[Anonymous No.19191414]

>>19189266
this is nice art. the genre needs more airships. the world needs more airships.

[Anonymous No.19191422]

>>19191414
airships are reddit

[Anonymous No.19191426]

>>19191422
you're reddit.

[Anonymous No.19191431]

>>19191422
This, anything remotely interesting is reddit. We should jerk off the corporations and suck elon and jeffs dick instead of think.

[Anonymous No.19191451]

Any recommendations for books very similar to Game of Thrones? I would like similar as in:

- grim / dark setting
- violent
- political intrigue
- not so much of the dragons
- different factions etc

Any suggestions? I tried Malazen but all the magic put me off.

[Anonymous No.19191457]

>>19191451
Dunno about books but watch Gasaraki and Galactic Heroes

[Anonymous No.19191466]

>>19191457
I have LOGH to watch but hadn't heard of Gasaraki so thank you very much

[Anonymous No.19191467]

>>19191451
Full Metal Daemon Muramasa

[Anonymous No.19191516]

>>19190926
Stop trying to force your second-rate brisk money

[Anonymous No.19191544]

>>19189566
I just don't understand how SF avoided going down the shitter like fantasy has.

[Anonymous No.19191557]

>>19191544
sci-fi has infinitely less tropes and cliches compared to fantasy

[Anonymous No.19191562]

>>19191544
You can't get away with being a shitty writer with no new ideas as easily in Sci Fi

[Anonymous No.19191571]

>>19191544
Sci-fi is often written by people who actually know something about science and are speculating within those bounds. Fantasy is written by people who play DnD.

[Anonymous No.19191588]

>>19189296
Yes.

[Anonymous No.19191600]

>>19189330
>voices moaning, crying and screaming in the middle of the night
Probably just wild animals. Check out what foxes sound like.

[Anonymous No.19191609]

>>19191544
who would read a statement like this and think to themselves "yeah that makes sense"
have you read both genres extensively enough? is your selection process completely free of bias?
is everyone here a teenager?

[Anonymous No.19191614]

>>19189365
Look into the Missing 411 books.

[Anonymous No.19191615]

>>19191544
There straight up isn't as much Sci-Fi, and while Sci-Fi lacks the whole awful YA segment that drags Fantasy into the mud, it also lacks oustandingly good works. There's NBew Sun, and not much else I can think of. Sci-Fi books can be subpar and survive on ideas along, which describes most of the "good" sci fi: Subpar books with good ideaskksxt.

[Anonymous No.19191621]

>>19191615
God I hate this trash captcha.

[Anonymous No.19191629]

>>19191451
prince of nothing

[Anonymous No.19191652]

Is Asminov Jewish?

[Anonymous No.19191658]

>>19191652
Yes, you can tell by his looks and his molestation of young women at conventions.

[Anonymous No.19191663]

>>19191652
first name is a bit of a giveaway, and he was a predator

[Anonymous No.19191742]

>>19191658
>>19191663
Should I still read him? What’s like his sickest series and books that will make me coom?

[Anonymous No.19191762]

>>19191615
Ideas are the thing that makes SF great, though. I can also think of several outstanding works of Sci-Fi, more than I can think of outstanding fantasy (though to be fair I've read much more SF). Outstanding is very subjective. What would you call the best of Fantasy and the best of SF?

[Anonymous No.19191767]

>>19191742
Asimov singlehandedly got me into reading non-YA when I was 15. I started with I, Robot, but Caves of Steel, Foundation, and Pebble in the Sky are also good starting points.

[Anonymous No.19191831]

>>19191588
That's pretty impressive. Good to know that people here have good taste.

[Anonymous No.19192090]

>>19191544
It is just as low. You don't notice it because there was less of a distance to fall from the greats of SF compare to fantasy. The greats of SF were great because they came up with cool ideas first, not because they were good at telling stories.

Tolkien/Howard compared to what is produced today; now that is a fucking collapse. Foundation might be grander and better assembled than modern SF, but the writing drop between then and now is less than with fantasy.

[Anonymous No.19192097]

Is Dune worth reading if I already played the video game?

[Anonymous No.19192115]

>>19192097
the herbert senior books are great.
avoid the junior books. his son cant write for shit even with his dads notes.

[Anonymous No.19192161]

>>19192097
To a point.

[Anonymous No.19192204]

>>19192161
Thank you for this. It is exactly why I'm here and the answer is option #3.
t. bored /biz/raeli tourist.

[Anonymous No.19192248]

>>19192204
Option 4 is the most based, but if you go for #3 you're getting 90% of the value out of the series.

[Anonymous No.19192312]

>>19192248
I can't love an author before I read his writing. But I always love stumbling on a good series. I read WoT last year up to 90% through book 12 and I had to stop.

[Anonymous No.19192408]

>>19190908
WhErE ArE ThE POCs aNd wOmEn??

[Anonymous No.19192430]

>>19190282
Prose.
None of that other stuff matters if the book is unreadable.

[Anonymous No.19192507]

Are the Prescot novels any good?

Also was recommended a space adventure series but can't recall the name... I think it was named after/set on one of the moons of Jupiter?

[Anonymous No.19192543]

>>19191588
is this real life?

[Anonymous No.19192575]

>>19191762
An idea doesn't carry a book though. Most of the old Sci-Fi I read would be better off as a short story or a wiki. What carries books are characters, and to a degree prose. I can't enjoy classical Sci-Fi because the writing in most of the books is serviceable at best, more commonly dry and awkward.
Once the core idea of the book is no longer novel to you, the books become incredibly tedious to slog through. Compare that to Lord of the Rings: Everything in those books has been done many times since then, but they still hold up well, because they have style and you can sense the craftsmanship that went into them.

In Sci-Fi characters are usually cardboard thin too. Stephen Baxter is a good example for this. He has many interesting ideas, but his books are horrid to read because he can't write a story or a character to save his life.

For whatever reason there are far, far more fantasy authors who are actually good at being authors.

[Anonymous No.19192651]

>>19190908
No god books when?

[Anonymous No.19192697]

>>19192543
Of course. Bakkerchads stay winning.

[Anonymous No.19192868]

>>19189298
Also going to check this out. Thanks for the rec

[Anonymous No.19192877]

>>19191588
There are literally not even that many unique IPs in /sffg/

[Anonymous No.19193025]

So this is about a detective figuring out a spaceship boarding? I that it, that's what all the hype's about? A fucking sci-fi whodunit?

[Anonymous No.19193055]

>>19193025
Finish it first and then come back here.

[Anonymous No.19193070]

>uhhhhh no you can't name your song Dune because...uhhhhh...because rock bad and...uhhhhh...look, you just can't, ok?
Lol what a wimp.

[Anonymous No.19193101]

Help me /sffg/, I'm looking for some medieval horror, something like macbeth or the green Knight. That sort of Shakespearian/Arthurian setting.

I don't want a fantasy adventure, I want a spooky horror story. One with witches and and spooky stuff in a bleak gloomy medieval town, forrest, or similar.

[Anonymous No.19193109]

>>19193070
Meds

[Anonymous No.19193124]

>>19193109
Dilate.

[Anonymous No.19193125]

So a book arrived in the mail today, an older one dated 1979; as I was flipping through it a bookmark fell out, a thin strip of faded blue paper that said "Dark Carnival: Fantasy and Science Fiction Bookstore" on it, with a little picture of a jester on the top. I love finding old stuff in books so I was really happy; I went and looked up the bookstore itself, only to find out that it closed four (going on five) years ago. Had any of you guys been there before? Was it a nice place?

[Anonymous No.19193176]

Who of those present has autism?

[Anonymous No.19193215]

So has that game revived cyberpunk or finished killing it?

[Anonymous No.19193242]

>>19193215
Nothing with the word "punk" in it ever had any life.

[Anonymous No.19193360]

>>19193242
fuck off

[Anonymous No.19193404]

recently watched Star Trek: Lower Decks
what are some sci fi books like this?
not talking about the comedic tone, but the scenarios they find themselves in, the comraderies and adventures all that

[Anonymous No.19193518]

How would you rank those settings from best to worst?
>Westeros
>Middle-Earth
>Earthsea
>Wheel of time's world/Randland
>Malazan's world
>Midkemia
>Hyborian Age
>Elric's world
>Pern
>Nehwon
>Barsoom
>Mercury (Worm Ouroboros)
>Pern
>Dying Earth
>Urth
>Amber Multiverse

[Anonymous No.19193536]

>>19193360
You will never be a rebel.

[Anonymous No.19193538]

Finished ADWD but I'm left with an itch for more fantasy and schemes. Would Gardens of the Moon make up for it? A friend of mine recommended it to me but it seems too close to some D&D fanfic for what he's told me. He also loves Sanderson so I don't really trust his taste.

[Anonymous No.19193553]

>>19191451
just finished the blacktongue thief by chris buehlman and would highly rec it, a tight standalone that checks all those boxes

[Anonymous No.19193576]

>>19189833
Heard there is a short story sequel, you might want to check it out before re-reading.

[Anonymous No.19193621]

Well E WIlliam Brown is "sick"
So I guess those books will never be finished.

[Anonymous No.19193634]

>>19193176
I heard that 90% have it and I think I have noticed
I've started to see anons differently since then and I can't take seriously what nobody says even if I want to

[Anonymous No.19193641]

>>19193634
but everyone here is probably normal and genuinely clever

[Anonymous No.19193680]

>>19192697
this image would be perfect with a banana or two

[Anonymous No.19193683]

>>19193215
Cyberpunk killed cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.19193687]

>>19189317
Why "Der Fisher" and not "Der Fischer"? Should he be something German or not? Bothers me somehow. Still, sounds interesting, thanks for the rec

[Anonymous No.19193698]

>>19193518
>tfw only really familiar with Westeros, Middle-Earth, Hyborian Age, Barsoom, and Dying Earth enough to comment
I should read more classics desu

[Anonymous No.19193718]

>>>/tv/157383610
>>>/tv/157383610
>>>/tv/157383610

[Anonymous No.19193719]

>>19193025
I wish it did stay a sci-fi whodunit

[Anonymous No.19193724]

>>19193719
Imagine a series about just Miller and his ghost waifu solving crimes in space

[Anonymous No.19193757]

>>19191544
it has fallen-modern sci fi is a bunch of diversity authors sucking each other off

[Anonymous No.19193769]

>>19189266
Amazon wot looks like shit lmno

[Anonymous No.19194165]

>>19189266
any Bruce Sterling fans here?

[Anonymous No.19194221]

>>19194165
I've liked some of his short fiction.

[Anonymous No.19194240]

Is the dune series the best sci-fi ever written?

[Anonymous No.19194440]

>>19194240
The entire series? No, not in the slightest. The first book may be one of the best though.

[Anonymous No.19194463]

>>19192575
Language and communication is only about conveying the ideas in your head

[Anonymous No.19194473]

>>19194240
Have to agree with the other poster. The first book deserves a place among the very few books at the top of the genre, the series itself falls noticeably short of a few other great names.

[Anonymous No.19194821]

How do I write like them

[Anonymous No.19194993]

>>19190908
i don't feel so good bakkerbros..

[Anonymous No.19195008]

>>19194993
He is the heckin king of sffg! feel good or else!

[Anonymous No.19195010]

>>19192408
They're reading Cradle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-oecAEFJ0Q

[Anonymous No.19195020]

>>19195010
left wings destroyed, he owned the libs!

[Anonymous No.19195030]

>>19195010
what's cradle

[Anonymous No.19195033]

>>19195030
a series

[Anonymous No.19195045]

>>19195033
for left wings and libs

[Anonymous No.19195061]

>>19195045
pass

[Anonymous No.19195084]

>>19195061
right wings and based moment

[Anonymous No.19195095]

>>19192697
Sell me on Prince or Nothing. My only exposure to fantasy is LorR, TCoN, HP, and ASOIAF.

[Anonymous No.19195109]

>>19195095
It's a book for right winged and anti-sjw chads, you will be roaming sffg under the reign of king bakker, you will strike with his iron fist and decimate the sjw crowds that taint our threads, hail king Bakker the destroyer of left wings.

[Anonymous No.19195116]

>>19195109
I kneel, all hail king bakker the curved phallus supreme

[Anonymous No.19195152]

>>19195109
>Bakker
>Self professed male feminist whose books are all about toxic masculinity
>right winged and anti-sjw chads

[Anonymous No.19195163]

>>19195152
whatever his personal politics are it certainly doesn't manifest in his writing. fell into the same hole that warhammer did

[Anonymous No.19195170]

>>19195152
Don’t forget far-leftist. Is it any surprising redditors love him?

[Anonymous No.19195181]

>>19195109
>It's a book for right winged and anti-sjw chads
Are there any other fantasy series like that?

[Anonymous No.19195186]

>>19195152
separate the art from the artist, he may be left winged but he is the king of right wings.

[Anonymous No.19195189]

>>19195181
Terry Goodkind

[Anonymous No.19195195]

>>19195181
there is only two, Prince of Nothing and this sci-fi series

[Anonymous No.19195214]

>>19195189
I'm a far right wing anti-sjw chad, don't associate me with Terry Goodking please.

[Anonymous No.19195220]

>>19195163
>whatever his personal politics are it certainly doesn't manifest in his writing.
Yes it absolutely did. Every single male character he writes is an absolute asshole, even the ones that aren't rapists. To Bakker, all masculinity is inherently toxic masculinity, the simple fact that all his male characters use the term "womanish" as an insult makes that blatantly obvious. In addition, he falls into the same trap that all leftists do and makes EVERYTHING about sex, about who is fucking who, who wants to fuck who, and all the bad guys just want to fuck everyone, because Americanized leftoids are obsessed with sex before everything else.

>fell into the same hole that warhammer did
The hole Warhammer fell into was GW pushing retarded leftists politics in their settings even when it made absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous No.19195237]

>>19195220
get filtered by king bakker (the curved phallus supreme) all right winged chads read the Prince Of Nothing while the left read Cradle

[Anonymous No.19195250]

One of my favorite things about Cradle is it doesn't even try to be grounded. Other western xianxia/progression fantasy series like A Thousand Li have mortal humans going around stupid mortal lives in a fantasy setting with the disclaimer that powerful people exist somewhere out there. Cradle has people with 6 arms coming out of their backs and glowing green acid scorpions crawling over them as the norm, not to mention people riding around in castles in the sky if they aren't an intergalactic space invader.

[Anonymous No.19195252]

>>19195220
>the simple fact that all his male characters use the term "womanish" as an insult makes that blatantly obvious
i don't see an issue with this
>The hole Warhammer fell into was GW pushing retarded leftists politics in their settings even when it made absolutely no sense.
the hole i was referring to is insisting the imperium are badguys while depicting them as the best structure for the situation they're in, regardless of how inefficient it may be. without the imperium there would be no humanity

[Anonymous No.19195274]

>>19195252
>i don't see an issue with this
it's because you are a right winged chad, he is an sjw poc that reads Cradle, that's why he thinks it's an issue

[Anonymous No.19195311]

>>19195274

[Anonymous No.19195317]

>>19195311
bakker chads, I'm tired of winning

[Anonymous No.19195338]

>>19195311
those don't look like sips, is he really a chad?

[Anonymous No.19195457]

>>19193518
>Barsoom
>Amber
>Nehwon
>Hyborian Age
>Elric's world
>Dying Earth
>Middle-Earth
>Pern
>Westeros
>Mercury (Worm Ouroboros)
>Midkemia
>Earthsea

One of my favorite moments in all of fiction is Corwin and his army fighting their way, one man at a time, up the staircase cut into the mountain Amber sits upon. Eddison's work is actually my favorite of those listed, but the setting is a bit weak.

[Anonymous No.19195557]

WHERE are my potterniggas holy shit

[Anonymous No.19195573]

give me academy books
finished harry potter and now I feel empty.

[Anonymous No.19195581]

>>19195573
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42267952-into-the-labyrinth
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44327636-the-first-step
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55559974-iron-prince
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34403860-sufficiently-advanced-magic
These are all ones I've read recently

[Anonymous No.19195614]

do I have any chance of enjoying any of wolfes works if I don't like the epistle format?

[Anonymous No.19195628]

>>19195614
He only wrote 2 novels like that, so sure.

[Anonymous No.19195640]

>>19195628
I can think of 4 which is twice that much, and they're his most famous
so stfu

[Anonymous No.19195650]

>>19195581
>Sufficiently Advanced Magic
I was on board till the MC went homo.
>The First Step
Cultivation has never been good except for in Warlock of the Magus World.
>Iron Prince
dunno if i can handle a shonnen battle scifi
>Into the Labyrinth
might check out

[Anonymous No.19195660]

>>19195650
>I was on board till the MC went homo
I stopped reading it immediately at that point, but some people might not mind

[Anonymous No.19195710]

Historic Fantasy is the real deal, only a true historian would read

[Anonymous No.19195723]

>>19195710
A marvel. One might even say a gem.

[Anonymous No.19195735]

>>19195723
A sublime piece of art, untouchable by the common man.

[Anonymous No.19195737]

>>19195573
name of the wind is comfykino

[Anonymous No.19195755]

>>19195710
imagine being these dudes separately posing for some stock photos and then getting badly shooped into being a fag

[Anonymous No.19195758]

>>19195735
>>19195723
>>19195710
you glorious homoerotic retards

[Anonymous No.19195770]

a lot of you aren't reading cradle and it shows

[Anonymous No.19195775]

I just started book 12 of Stellar Transformation and it's picked up heavily since the Immortals descended upon the Mortal Realm and Qin Yu eventually went to Space(TM). Are any of IET's later works good? I read Coiling and Desolate already.
A shame the few self-pub 'progression' novels I read are updated infrequently, and Cradle has been complacent trash for several books.

[Anonymous No.19195799]

>>19195770
Apologies.

[Anonymous No.19195832]

>>19195775

[Anonymous No.19195837]

>>19195775
>Cradle has been complacent trash for several books
What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.19195846]

>>19195837
It got popular so I hate it.

[Anonymous No.19195851]

>>19195837
It got sjw poc ussr soi covid poc woke trash

[Anonymous No.19195854]

>>19195837
>>19195846
It peaked with Ghostwater, maintained a steady tempo with Underlord, and then it has been a disaster since. Will hasn't improved as a writer, is the problem. Bloodline was a complete fucking mockery.

[Anonymous No.19195855]

>>19195854
Explain how you came to this conclusion.

[Anonymous No.19195872]

>>19195851
There's really nothing "sjw poc soi covid woke" about Cradle.
>>19195854
Wintersteel was great. Bloodline had the potential to be really great. He's really not suited for the kind of emotional human drama and interpersonal tension the book required though.

[Anonymous No.19196035]

xinxia is shit
cultivation is shit
isekai is shit
>i dont want to consolidate my gains in the high heavens in another world at the peak of who was he? to some vanila magic and swords shite.

[Anonymous No.19196050]

>>19195186
And even then, You will never truly know who he is. He might be putting on an act for PR.

[Anonymous No.19196093]

>>19196050
Yeah bro, he might be running an underground right winged brothel where they perform hard sex.

[Anonymous No.19196133]

>>19196093
that's why he didn't have time to write the no god book and why he is gone

[Anonymous No.19196421]

>>19194165
I enjoyed his italian book about italian robots

[Anonymous No.19196445]

>>19195220
>99.9% of the book shitting on women whenever they appear, with all cool characters bar one (1) being male.
>Limp wristed paragraph of Kellhus saying "w-women are human too" specifically to get a Hole on his side.
Yeah sure... very egalitarian.

[Anonymous No.19196450]

>>19195775
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

[Anonymous No.19196539]

>>19195557
Busy on /vg/ talking about cute witches

[Anonymous No.19196758]

>>19190288
Based. Non-anime fags can never compete.

[Anonymous No.19196780]

>>19193101
Berserk by Kentaro Miura or the stories of Clark Ashton Smith. “The Charnel God” is your place to start.

[Anonymous No.19196798]

>>19193518
1. Middle Earth
2. Urth
3. Dying Earth
4. Hyborian age
5.Wheel of time world
6. Westeros
7. Barsoom
Idk know the rest.

[Anonymous No.19196812]

>>19195181
The Book of the New Sun. It filters normies.

[Anonymous No.19197067]

What did /sffg/ think of the Wisdom of Crowds?

[Anonymous No.19197117]

>>19196450
>reading xianxia makes you Chinese
Try again, newfag. I even mentioned Cradle which is the biggest Western self-pub Fantasy series and eaten up by kids who only read a handful of books a year to begin with.

[Anonymous No.19197204]

>>19197117
Man Cradle so shit. The main character is such a spineless cuck.

[Anonymous No.19197302]

>>19197204
The same exact character for nine books, no less.

[Anonymous No.19197414]

>>19197067
It hasn't changed since the last several times it was asked nor has how you find out.

[Anonymous No.19197549]

>>19195775
Where can I read some quality cultivation novels? The more ridiculous the better.

[Anonymous No.19197864]

I really wish Murderbot was either way better or way worse so I didn't have to feel conflicted about paying the extortionate amount of money to read each entry.
Currently I think it's alright with some decent ideas, but the writing is often annoying and it's dripping with muh gender politics

[Anonymous No.19197889]

>>19197864
>reading a female author
why

[Anonymous No.19197903]

>>19197549
The typical royal road/wuxiaworld/novelupdates. If you're looking for big titles then the same entries usually crop up on most rec lists but they're always absurdly lengthy.

[Anonymous No.19198058]

>>19197864
Unironically stop paying for Murderbot. Martha Wells is a whore for globohomo. She doesn't respect you and she already has way the fuck too much money.

[Anonymous No.19198139]

I've watched Legend of the Seeker and loved it. But the book series is 21 novels long. Is it worth taking the plunge?

[Anonymous No.19198151]

>>19198139
Oh shit, that's the Sword of Truth adaptation. Fuck no, don't bother.

[Anonymous No.19198171]

>>19198151
God dammit that's not what I was hoping you'd say

[Anonymous No.19198196]

>>19198171
The only pro is that it's much less than 21 novels. Otherwise, it's full of lengthy political/philosophical projection using his gary stu Richard as a mouthpiece. I forget some of the more truly heinous examples but I'm sure there are plenty of greentexts if you lurk around the archives.

[Anonymous No.19198207]

>>19198196
I'll look up some greentexts to be sure but it sounds like a pass then. I'll not risk liking the show less by reading the books.

[Anonymous No.19198233]

How did a fantasy series based on books written by the (then) living parody of libertarianism get turned into a light BDSM tv show made by Disney?

[Anonymous No.19198246]

>>19198233
Because Sam Raimi loves ladies in leather.

[Anonymous No.19198308]

the sword of shannara is the superior tv-adapted fantasy series in both mediums. god bless mtv for taking a classic fantasy series and casting it with hot actresses in sexy clothes and making them get naked for no reason

[Anonymous No.19198429]

>>19197117
>reading xianxia makes you Chinese
Nah it just makes you a faggot lol

[Anonymous No.19198920]

>AAAH I CANT STOP HAVING SEX

[Anonymous No.19198939]

>>19198233
wait what

[Anonymous No.19198990]

>>19198233
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.19199038]

>>19198990
Anime is accepted in /sffg/

[Anonymous No.19199050]

>>19199038
Anime and visual novels are accepted.
Manga and light novels are unaccepted.

[Anonymous No.19199057]

The general is lost.
Fly, you fools!

[Anonymous No.19199063]

>>19199050
Not him, but fuck off.

[Anonymous No.19199070]

>>19199050
>anime and visual novels are accepted

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.19199075]

>>19199063
Not allowed in /sffg/. Discuss the anime version or begone.

[Anonymous No.19199092]

>>19198920
Who is this post referring to? The character in the image is the ideal woman to patricians such as myself but reverse search doesn't lead to a series

[Anonymous No.19199167]

>>19199092
Looks like Emily Kaldwin from Dishonored 2 (video game) to me

[Anonymous No.19199173]

>>19193070
>hhhhh no you can't name your game ion maiden .uhhhhh...because games bad and...uhhhhh...look, you just can't, ok?

[Anonymous No.19199177]

>>19199050
>Anime and visual novels are accepted.
Nope, fuck outta here with that shit, there's a whole board for you, leave our little general alone

[Anonymous No.19199182]

>>19195710
not as good as chuck tingle

[Anonymous No.19199247]

>>19196539
Based
>>19195557
Nigga

[Anonymous No.19199335]

god damn it. half the shit in malazan could be taken out and with no detriment to the story whatsoever.

Erikson is testing my patience.

[Anonymous No.19199356]

>>19195573
the poppy war
it sucks shit but then again so does harry potter

[Anonymous No.19199383]

>>19196539
my wife merula is so cute

[Anonymous No.19199454]

>>19190908
*cringe

[Anonymous No.19199459]

>>19199454
Didn't ask.

[Anonymous No.19199465]

>>19192248
wrong, #3 is missing Heretics and Chapterhouse, which are excellent. Miles Teg GOAT

[Anonymous No.19199484]

>>19195109
you do realize that bakker is insanely left-wing, right? he hates trump with a white-hot fury, wants everything to be like super-proggy canada

[Anonymous No.19199489]

>>19199484
>He actually took the bait
NGMI

[Anonymous No.19199497]

>>19199484
socdems are not leftwing
sjws are not leftwing
both are liberals

[Anonymous No.19199498]

>OMG HE HATES TRUMO SO HE'S SUPER LEFT WING!!!!

[Anonymous No.19199499]

No anime pictures or talk allowed!
We are a VERY serious Bakker/Sanderson/politics discussion General...!!

[Anonymous No.19199502]

>>19199499
>Sanderson
>Serious

[Anonymous No.19199510]

>Well, yes. I do love Berserk. How can you tell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0

[Anonymous No.19199513]

>>19199502
ROFL anon I've never seen this photo before!!

[Anonymous No.19199517]

>>19191196
The ones to a language you understand.

[Anonymous No.19199616]

>>19199510
Is there any chance Elden Ring will be good?

[Anonymous No.19199631]

>>19199616
when has Miyazaki missed

[Anonymous No.19199642]

>>19199631
ponyo

[Anonymous No.19199680]

>>19199642
okay I deserved that. I meant the video game Miyazaki.

[Anonymous No.19199724]

Finished Name of the Wind.
Should I go ahead and continue with Wise Mans Fear?

[Anonymous No.19199734]

>>19195095
I just finished prince of nothing after finally giving in to the shilling bombardment in these threads.

It is incredibly bleak and downright unfun in certain parts, similar to GRRM, but has about 1000% more useful philosophical insight in a single book than Martin's entire bibliography.

It wasn't a hard read, I enjoyed it and am excited to continue the series despite the one-dimensional characters and long passages of le fantasy politics.

If you have a problem with the names of the characters and places you are probably too dumb to read this schlock, so don't even bother. Otherwise and overall, there are worse things you could be reading.

[Anonymous No.19199736]

>>19199724
I read and enjoyed both, and once I was done all I could think about was how fucking stupid and juvenile it all was

[Anonymous No.19199744]

>>19199724
No, keep NotW in your heart and pretend the rest of it doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.19199846]

>>19199616
Unironically couldn't care less about recycled Dark Souls 3. Been there, done that.

FROMSOFTWARE are just a bunch of unoriginal hacks by now.

[Anonymous No.19199973]

>>19199724
In Wise Mans Fear I just got to the part where he starts to learn martial arts. Also:
>women are better fighters
uhh...
Does it get worse? I'm about 3/5 in.

[Anonymous No.19199978]

>>19199973
you're reading a book about a Gary Sue kung fu sex grandmaster and the thing you find objectionable is the fact that supernaturally capable women are stronger than supernaturally capable man
is everyone on this garbage website a teenager

[Anonymous No.19199990]

>>19199978
cringe

[Anonymous No.19199999]

>>19199167
Looks like, sure, but I don't think that's supposed to be her. It's a great design though. What are some good series with this aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.19200006]

>>19199999
Powder Mage has this exact aesthetic. I don't know about anything good though.

[Anonymous No.19200008]

Anyone know of a sci-fi story where bioengineered bacteria that eats metal spreads throughout the world causing metal to become present only in labs?
I know it's a shit idea but just curious

[Anonymous No.19200015]

>>19200008
That's awfully specific.

[Anonymous No.19200025]

>>19199990
>he is absolutely unable to enjoy the idea of being physically dominated by a woman
>he lacks the mental capacity to imagine himself being stepped all over by a nubile and taut-bodied steppe woman
>he cannot suspend his disbelief and picture himself being forced to smell her feet as she shoves them into his nostrils in ritualistic humiliation
cringe and cringepilled

[Anonymous No.19200031]

>>19199978
Up to the part with the Felurian things were quite grounded, and the martial art they practice doesn't seem any form of high magic. Making women inherently better figthers because they are better at bullshito (and the way the reasoning for this gets handwaved in the book) sound like the authors is inserting some weird fetish. Makes me suspicious things are going to be downhill from now on.

[Anonymous No.19200037]

>>19200008
isn't that part of the plot of one of michael crichton's last books? swarm? something about nanobots?

[Anonymous No.19200041]

>>19200008
I don't know but your idea reminds me of ice-nine, from Cat's Cradle

[Anonymous No.19200118]

>>19200031
it's been a while and I don't remember whether the kung fu asians in Rothfuss' world are supposed to be supernaturally gifted or not
with that said there are so many things that obviously suck about the book, I can't help but feel like focusing on that one specific aspect of it (namely, the martial competence of females) makes you a cringe incel turboloser

[Anonymous No.19200161]

>>19200118
It's more like the last straw. If it is an openly high fantasy setting I can let many things pass, but shoehorning some bullshito (and no, the way they are presented they seem rather mundane fighters, and not asians either), then giving gurlz some superior competence at it (none of this was mentioned up til this point, and the reasoning is some bs like, "they are more calm"). It just feel like it was inserted in the last minute for some werid reason.

[Anonymous No.19200172]

>>19200161
fair
I could settle for any bullshit prerogative
but if there is none, off with this fat shit's head.

[Anonymous No.19200188]

>>19193518
Urth
Dying Earth
Hyborian Age
Nehwon

Power gap

Middle Earth
Westeros
Elric's World
Amber
Barsoom
Malazan
Wheel of Time
Earthsea
Pern

[Anonymous No.19200202]

>>19195095
If you haven't read BotNS yet then read that, it's far better than Prince of Nothing. Dying Urth also far better. Prince of Nothing is high tier nu-fantasy, running in the same race as Malazan, Wheel of Time, Stormlight Archives etc. It is the best of those (maybe Chain of Dogs in Malazan is a bit better but series v series Bakker is better) but the genre is pretty bad. If you liked grrm you'll probably like Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19200216]

This is the most redpilled fantasy I’ve ever read. How did joe get away with it?

[Anonymous No.19200281]

>>19200216
It's 0% redpilled. You are an idiot who doesn't understand and/or a troll.

[Anonymous No.19200310]

>>19200281
I’m 35% through and it’s very redpilled. Cope tranny

[Anonymous No.19200320]

>>19200310
provide examples

[Anonymous No.19200400]

>>19200320
>commoners revolt take out the rich and powerful.
> create a people’s government for equality.
>tear down statues because they’re oppressive.
>perception matters more than reality
>call each other citizen or citizeness because we’re all equal. (Like comrade)
>mob rule
>wrong think will get you killed.
>everything objectively gets worse.
Oh and when a woman runs the north she can’t help being a slit and fucking things up. This book shits on leftism more than any fantasy or sci fi I’ve ever read. Unless he 180s the great change in the second half this is a redpilled allegory for modern wokeness.

[Anonymous No.19200413]

>>19200400
It's about the French Revolution.

[Anonymous No.19200416]

>>19200400
Do you actually think red pilled means communist?

[Anonymous No.19200431]

Better dead than redpilled, which means to be a commie, hence the red scare.

[Anonymous No.19200452]

>>19200400
I like how the definition is "anything I don't like is leftism". It's very helpful.

[Anonymous No.19200455]

>>19200416
Redpilled is anti communist

[Anonymous No.19200461]

>>19200452
Tell me how leftism isn’t about bullshit like equality, tearing down oppressive symbols, mob rule and going after anyone that wrong thinks? Oh you can’t

[Anonymous No.19200462]

>>19200455
It means whatever the memer wants it to mean.

[Anonymous No.19200467]

>>19199499
>>19199513
Sandersöi detected

[Anonymous No.19200478]

>>19200461
That's a very reductionist view and quite the caricature.

[Anonymous No.19200485]

>>19200478
nice non argument. I’ll take that as your cope

[Anonymous No.19200486]

>>19200455
Yeah but what was posted was not examples of “red pilled”. Literally the opposite

[Anonymous No.19200494]

>>19200485
You aren't interested in an argument.

[Anonymous No.19200499]

>>19197067
Just finished it.
Very disappointing all in all.

[Anonymous No.19200510]

>>19200486
Exactly and those things make everything worse in the story. Are you retarded?
>>19200494
I am. You just don’t have one. Feel free to prove me wrong. But we both know you can’t.

[Anonymous No.19200517]

>>19200499
Bayaz didn't holocaust everyone. It was very disappointing indeed

[Anonymous No.19200523]

>>19200517
It’s interesting seeing the great change as an allegory to modern wokeism

[Anonymous No.19200536]

>>19200510
Getting all your political beliefs from social media is a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.19200549]

>>19195109
>main character of first trilogy is gay Barbarian who becomes aware of his destructive nationalistic views that lead him to try and integrate with his homophobic people
> nationalism is constantly described as ignorant
> one of main characters of second trilogy is a blonde twink who gets blacked
> core theme of the series is about valuing “doubt in your beliefs and having compassion for enemies”
> a long monologue in 2nd book by a man who has a near godly intellect about how women are equal to men. Goes on to teach sorcery for women in second trilogy.
> most powerful god is a woman (Yatwer)

How is it redpilled at all?

[Anonymous No.19200550]

>>19200536
nice projection. Still waiting on that argument to put me in my place

[Anonymous No.19200556]

>>19200549
To any leftist, which is what Bakker is, that is the very definition of redpill.

[Anonymous No.19200558]

Hey, I'm working on a sci-fi short story. is "A Sound Like Metal" an intriguing title?

[Anonymous No.19200563]

>>19200558
Just write.

[Anonymous No.19200566]

>>19200558
>A Sound Like Metal
gives me "can I borrow a feeling" from the simpsons vibes
but cringe names are a dime a dozen, it isnt that bad

[Anonymous No.19200570]

>>19200556
Bakker is far leftist though?

[Anonymous No.19200575]

>>19200556
Why can’t leftists come up with their own memes?

[Anon1 No.19200580]

>>19198920
I have no benis and I must Coom

[Anonymous No.19200587]

>>19200550
That isn't possible for anyone to do.

[Anonymous No.19200588]

>>19200558
like metal as in what? the genre of music? the clanging of a sheet of metal?

[Anonymous No.19200594]

>>19200587
that’s what happens when you’re right

[Anonymous No.19200595]

>>19200517
He really made Yuru and Bayaz just conviniently do nothing for the whole trilogy but pop up at random times and give empty threats.

Gunnar chapters were literally copy pastes of nothing and made no progression which yea is serves to show that some people never change but holy shit the same message would get across without this shit. The great change became absolutely tedious to read through as did Savine povs.

Leo going from literal retard to a "politician" in a span of weeks was retarded.

Rikke's "plot" was really obvious but kind of satisfying. The Weaver also became apparent quickly, but I didn't mind it.

Orso and Vick had satisfying chapters.

Can't wait for everyone to get Bayazed tho

[Anonymous No.19200601]

>>19200594
Enjoy your self-assurance.

[Anonymous No.19200606]

>>19200594
or phenomenally stupid

[Anonymous No.19200615]

>>19200595
Bayaz better release all the demons and have literally everyone in the world die. I'm still holding out for a spell that makes the planet explode.

[Anonymous No.19200620]

>>19200601
Knowing the truth of things leads to assurance
>>19200606
should be easy to debunk someone phenomenally stupid. Yet you can’t

[Anonymous No.19200625]

>>19200620
debunk, sure. that's out of your control.
to "put you in your place" implicates a level of self-awareness you don't possess

[Anonymous No.19200632]

>>19200625
Why are you replying to a troll and shitposters?

[Anonymous No.19200638]

>>19200632

[Anonymous No.19200656]

>>19200625
then go ahead and debunk my claim if you can. Again we both know you’ve got nothing

[Anonymous No.19200668]

>>19200549
>I don't know if Cnaiur is gay as much as he is Dunyain'd. He has no problems fucking serwe.
>All human societal structures are shit on and displayed as ignorant.
>The twink is a pussy. You also have the reverse, with gigachad blonds buck breaking
>Compassion for enemies isn't a core theme.
>The monologue is given by a psychopath to a women he wants to breed kids with. Everything Kellhus says is designed to get her on side. He creates the witches because he needs all hands on deck for the great ordeal.
>Eh, female gods aren't that rare. Its like a Gaia thing

[Anonymous No.19200679]

>>19200549
All it’s missing is a cuckold scene and the book is a quintessential leftist fantasy novel.

[Anonymous No.19200680]

>>19200656
what you described was an ill-fated attempt at the succession of feudalism by liberal democracy
as someone else mentioned, there is obvious historical precedent in the french revolution of 1789.
there are stinklines emanating from my larger-than-average cock. put it in your mouth entire.

[Anonymous No.19200696]

>>19189365
>magic realism
You might like Blackwater by Michael McDowell? It's not really magical realism, more southern gothic with elements of supernatural horror. But the way it's written and the way the characters react gave me a kinda magical realism vibe

[Anonymous No.19200703]

>>19200680
what I described and what the book portrays are many of the principles of modern leftistism and cultural Marxism irregardless of the parallels these have with the french revolution. nigger go ahead and tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.19200716]

>Fantasy series isn't pro-Monarchy
it's shit

[Anonymous No.19200719]

>>19200716
>Being a monarchist
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.19200733]

>>19200696
Will check it out. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.19200736]

>>19200703
>Cultural Marxism
Devoured by memes

[Anonymous No.19200741]

>>19199642
Fuck you, Ponyo was good.

[Anonymous No.19200746]

New thread
>>19200742

[Anonymous No.19200753]

fuck you all /sffg/

[Anonymous No.19200766]

>>19200703
>the book portrays are many of the principles of modern leftistism
and what are those exactly? liberty? equality? fraternity?
the only people who don't hold these principles in high regard are fascists, and fascists are the biggest losers of modern history.
>cultural Marxism
did you mean "cultural bolshevism"? I'm starting to suspect a thing or two about you.

[Anonymous No.19200771]

>>19200736
not an argument, still

[Anonymous No.19200774]

>>19200668
Cnaiur uses Serwe as his proof of heterosexuality. He only fucks her to delude himself into thinking he’s not actually gay. He realizes that towards the end of book 2, renounces his people and becomes free of worldly connections, kinda similar to kellhus, completing his arc. He states that he will literally shower in hot Semen to kill Moe.

Yeah not compassion, that was poor wording, but instead the toxicity of conviction in your own beliefs and lack of desire to negotiate. The great lesson akka left to proyas is doubt. The toxicity of religion in bakkers books is in the conviction it gives people to commit atrocities.

As for woman part, “Not everything I say is a lie, Scylvendi”. Kellhus says innate truths that people to achieve his goals and only uses broad lies like “prince of atrithau”. His whole philosophy is abandoning the nations and their identity and he preaches it to his followers religiously (though I admit, it is in part due to how nationalistic tendencies will hinder the needed unity for the great ordeal).

It’s not that she’s just the female god, she’s basically a “yas queen god” who fights for the oppressed and even the god of war can’t meet her gaze.

Bakker isn’t right wing at all. He created a right wing world to show how bad if is. The message in his books is inherently left wing. He doesn’t give women agency not because he’s based but because he showcases how they would actually be treated in a man’s world (no chance at self-realization)

[Anonymous No.19200789]

>>19200774
>Bakker isn’t right wing at all.
Anyone who read his blog already knew that.

[Anonymous No.19200801]

>>19200766
>and what are those things exactly?
mob rule, the mirage of equality, rule by the people which in the end just leads to dictatorship i.e judge., the crackdown of wrong think, tearing down historical monuments due to them being oppressive, feelings over facts, people
put in power due to their politics not their merits,. Want me to go on?
>cultural bolshevism
we can quibble over semantics but for you to take issue with the phrase leads me to suspect a few thing about (((you))) as well

[Anonymous No.19200811]

>>19200588
An interstellar exploration swarm "buckling" (or the simulation of it).

[Anonymous No.19200816]

>>19200789
People here seem to believe his books are though, which they aren’t in any capacity.

[Anonymous No.19200832]

>>19200816
>People here seem to believe his books are though
No, just the same bakkerfags who derail the thread with Bakker seem to think so. And nobody cares about their shit opinion and their Reddit author.

[Anonymous No.19200840]

>>19189266
>https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ
Contradicts itself a bunch, is there any good survey of /sffg/'s favorite books?

[Anonymous No.19200867]

>>19200816
retard lefties try to world build a right wing dystopia. their audience interpret it as an awesome utopia instead. lefties keep seething that no one agrees with their demented world view. many such cases.

[Anonymous No.19200924]

how come we only hit bump limit when you retards argue about politics?

[Anonymous No.19200996]

>>19200595
Her vision seemed to pretty clearly state that Gulstrad and Co will return probably by Bayazes hand. I'm conflicted because I like that Glokta won out this time but I also want Byaz to Argument of kings everyone again but worse