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19182528 No.19182528 [Reply] [Original]

It's tomorrow.
Make your bets.
Who will win?

>> No.19182532

Hopefully a /pol/lack.

>> No.19182541

WHY DO YOU CARE WHO «WINS» (IS GRANTED) A SWEDISH ZIONISTIC PRIZE FOR GLOBALISTICAL CORRECTNESS?

>> No.19182542

Javier Marías.

>> No.19182544

Jon Fosse.
Screencap this post

>> No.19182548
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>>19182528
John Crowley is the only American writer that deserves it. He should have won it last year instead of Gluck.

>> No.19182555

Giorgio Agamben

>> No.19182558

>>19182544
Done

>> No.19182563

Gerald Murnane. Screenshot this.

>> No.19182593

>>19182541
Keep seething 3rd worlder.

>> No.19182612

>>19182593


?

ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> No.19182637

>>19182612
Why should I care about what a bitter 3rd worlder wonders about? Go clean my toilet, make my clothes or whatever you people do instead.

>> No.19182638

>>19182637


INGEST YOUR MEDICAMENTS.

>> No.19182663

>>19182528
>Who will win?
the shitiest one.

>> No.19182693

>>19182541
How is that you can say something I agree with, and still be intensely hateable.

>> No.19182728

Ko Un or Bei Dao

>> No.19182849

>>19182528
Whoever wins, it won't be Lobo Antunes.
The Academy is too stupid for it. If some Portuguese language writer gets it, it will probably be that mediocrity of mediocrities, Mia Couto.
My bets are Ernaux (I've read some bits of her writings, and I thought it utterly inane, but she seems to be a favorite of the Academy) and Fosse (who does deserve it, and might very well get it because he's a Scandi).
My own choices would be Krasznahorkai or Lobo Antunes. If a poet, Adunis.
If it had to be a Hispanic, then Cesar Aira or Villa-Matas. Don't really know about the French. Houellebecq is mediocre.
Also, no Anglo will win it. They already got it in 2016, 17 and 20. So no McCarthy, Pynchon, and no Stoppard. Germans are unlikely, as Handke won in 2019.

>>19182728
Ko Un was #metoo'd, so he won't win.
And I don't see what's so good about his poetry, but then again I've read it in translation.

>> No.19182870

>>19182849
>Houellebecq is mediocre.
So is Aira.

>> No.19182881

>>19182849
Is Vila-Matas any good

>> No.19182912

I'm only interested in the Econ prize this year.

>> No.19182944

>>19182528
It’s going to be the best ever……most fuck you to all the sjws everywhere…..it’s gonna be a Whites African.

>> No.19183157

David Grossman will be the winner. Screenshot this.

>> No.19183379

>>19182944
mia couto then

>> No.19183558

>>19182912
>I'm only interested in the Econ prize this year.
Not a nobel prize though

>> No.19183608
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19183608

He won't win it but she should

>> No.19183615

Murakami 100%

>> No.19183694

>>19183615
will never happen fortunately kek

>> No.19183699

>>19182528
Rupi Kaur

>> No.19183722

Can xue

>> No.19183758

>>19182849
>Ko Un was #metoo'd, so he won't win.
A genocide denier won 2 years ago. The Swedish Academy cares more about internal politics than external. And I would recommend reading his criticism in translation rather than his poetry.

>> No.19183921

>>19183758
He won't win because the Academy has specific problems with the #metoo question.

>> No.19183923

>>19182528
Ernaux, Fosse, Couto, Cartarescu or Can Xue. Outside chance: Ngugi.

>> No.19183928

>>19182881
Yes. Check out his Dublinesque, Bartleby & Co, and Never Any End to Paris

>> No.19183957

>>19183921
You think they care more about this than they do. This isn't the Pulitzer. The most they would care to do is split the prize with Can Xue or Ernaux.

>> No.19183978

>>19183957
>You think they care more about this than they do

They literally postponed the prize for one year because of a #metoo case.
Whatever. If you think he'll win, bet your money on him, then.
You'll probably lose it, but who knows.

>> No.19184028

>>19182528
Jesús G. Maestro and his revolutionary literary theory

>> No.19184040

>>19182541
/thread

>> No.19184085

>>19182541
Handke won.

>> No.19184188

Michel fucking Houellebecq. Mark my words

>> No.19184212

>>19182849
Where to start with Lobo Antunes in english? I can't find translation for his first published novel Memória De Elefante

>> No.19184217

>>19182541
>>19182612
>>19182638
Imagine being so desperate for attention

>> No.19184264

>>19184188
This.

Been waiting for that nibba to get it for quite some time now.

>> No.19184296

>>19184188
nah that man is pretty much cancelled

>> No.19184324
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>>19182528
Alan Moore for his contributions to capeshit. Seething will exceed that of Bob Dylan's win.

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19184615

It's HIS year

>> No.19184618

>>19182849
>The Academy is too stupid for it.
Agree
>If some Portuguese language writer gets it, it will probably be that mediocrity of mediocrities, Mia Couto.
Let,'s take it easy, Mia is also a great writer. Not as good as ALA, of course, but good.

>> No.19184770

FIVE MINUTES, BROS!

>> No.19184784

>>19184212
Just learn portuguese, don't be a bitch.

>> No.19184785

>>19183615
I keenly await the torrent of articles seething about his "problematic" depictions of women

>> No.19184794

>>19184324
Based

>> No.19184803

>>19182849
>>19184618
>>19184784
Which one of ALA’s books should I read first? Which one is his magnum opus?

>> No.19184813
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>>19184324
Real talk, who will be the first capeshit/bd/manga writer to win it?

I think that, if Goscinny had lived into the 2010s and kept being as prolific as he was in the 60s and 70s, he would have eventually written something that would have given him the Nobel.

>> No.19184905

15 minutes

>> No.19184908

>>19184905
Can't f*eaking wait!

>> No.19184938

Its live now

>> No.19184941

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFJujtGULXg

Pretty nice door

>> No.19184944

>>19184941
BLONDE CUTIE ON SECOND ROW!

>> No.19184954

LITERALLY who

>> No.19184959

ÄNTLIGEN

>> No.19184961

LMAO

i remember reading someone on here saying that the Nobel Prize wasn't as pozzed as it was made out to be

what have you to say now?

>> No.19184963

I will now read your books Abdulrazak Gurnah

>> No.19184965

>blattenigger får Nobelpriset
PISSHORLANDET SVERIGE

>> No.19184966

>>19184803
Warning to the Crocodiles. It was recently released in English.

>> No.19184968

>>19184965
Väx upp, fitta

>> No.19184969

HOLY SHIT GARDNER GOT IT PUT ME IN THE SCREENCAP

>> No.19184970

>>19184961
polfags, i kneel

>> No.19184972

Rate the prose of the nobel prize winner:

THERE WAS A STORY of his first sighting. In fact, there was more than one, but elements of the stories merged into one with time and telling. In all of them he appeared at dawn, like a figure out of myth. In one story, he was an upright shadow moving so slowly that in that peculiar underwater light his approach was almost imperceptible, inching forward like destiny. In another, he was not moving at all, not a tremor or a quiver, just looming there on the edge of the town, grey eyes glittering, waiting for someone to appear, for someone whose unavoidable luck it was to find him. Then, when someone did, he slid forward towards him, to fulfil outcomes no one had predicted. Someone else claimed to have heard him before he was seen, to have heard his beseeching, longing howl in the darkest hour of the night, like that of an animal out of legend. What was undisputed – although there was no real dispute between these stories as they all added to the strangeness of his appearance – was that it was Hassanali the shopseller who found him, or was found by him.

>> No.19184974

>>19184961
Its not pozzed just because they gave it to an arab or whatever. It would be if it was systematic

>> No.19184976

I am entirely convinced that this award is chosen by drawing random authors out of a hat

>> No.19184981

>>19182528
As long as its not a woman I don't care. I hate women more than blacks.

>> No.19184980

lmao aldrig sett något mer politiserat val av vinnare. har de utomstående experterna övertagit kontrollen redan i år eller har akademin fattat beslutet helt själva? oavsett, priset har varit ointressant i flera år, dödsstöten var dylan och det här är begravningen. vem fan bryr sig.

>> No.19184983

>>19184972
Legendary!

>> No.19184986
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Who would you have given it to?

>> No.19184988

>>19184986
Adonis

>> No.19184990

fragile witebois will now hate something they'll pretend to have read

>> No.19184991

>>19184968
>JAAA FLYKTINGERINOSAR
De kan ju iaf ge till någon tredjevärldare som är någorlunda rotad i sin kultur såsom>>19184988

>> No.19184992

>>19184972
not bad. it's readable and somewhat interesting. i dislike those similes.

>>19184974
he won it because his work's depictions of colonialism and some refugee nonsense. if it were a christian white guy writing this same tripe it would be equally as sad, but in that case no one would care. nobel prize is so rooted in identity and image that they have lost all sense of artistry.

>> No.19184993

>>19184980
hvordan er dette verre enn glück?

>> No.19184996

>>19184986
Giorgio Agamben to trigger the libs

>> No.19184998

>another english-language writer
yawn

>> No.19185002

>>19184986
Lobo Antunes, Adunis, Krasznahorkai, Fosse, Enzensberger, Magris...

>> No.19185005

>>19184972
Reads a bit like Rushdie. I like it.

>> No.19185009

>>19185005
go to bed Dylan

>> No.19185014

>>19184998
Exactly. They claim to be diverse but where's the diversity when it's all English?
Where's Lobo Antunes, for God's sake?
Where's Adunis? Where are all the Asians and Arabs? Bei Dao? The Italians?

>> No.19185016

>>19184998
For real its the blandest type of decision. They probably don't trust translations enough and won't bother learning the language.

>> No.19185018

>>19184972
Not bad, yet not exactly captivating and a bit somnolent.

>> No.19185024

>perhaps you could rephrase the question
>proceeds to ask the question again in the exact same way

>> No.19185043

>Who will win?
Some irrelevant third world author nobody actually reads. Swedes will always prefer virtue signaling over rewarding someone with real merits

>> No.19185059

>>19185043
He's essentially British so I agree 100%

>> No.19185065

>>19184972
Reads like your average lame by-the-numbers magical realist chock full of bland or cliched expressions like: inching forward like destiny, anything involving glittering eyes, longing howl of the darkest hour of the night (come on!), an animal out of legend (at least specify it to make it more unique than your usual self-aware mythologic ramble!), some ambiguous descriptions about some shadow moving (like that biblical shit hasn't been done before!)

This is literature for zombies, a manufactured poesy that lightly gilds the usual bland ideas and psychologies about postcolonial alienation and other such shit, full of melodramatic self-seriousness. If you've read one of these you've read them all.

>> No.19185081

The problem with these colonial African countries is that their history starts and ends at colonialism. There is nothing else defining them, and the people there don't define themselves with anything else. The message in their literature will always be the same: racism bad, colonialism bad. But we've already listened to this message for the past 50 years. Why give Nobel prize for that?

>> No.19185090

>>19185065
This is a correct diagnosis, but I'm happy with the choice nonetheless. They filled their quota and can perhaps give it to some actually readable northerner next year.

>> No.19185146

>>19182541
you never fail to disappoint with how little of value you have to say