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19181176 No.19181176 [Reply] [Original]

Pussified millenials (and sadly a lot of zoomers) always telegraph their faggy spoken mannerisms with their written prose style - it mainly involves abusing question marks and ellipses in ways that convey noncommittal passive-aggressive semi-irony. I say 'semi-irony' because it often doesn't commit positively to a simple inversion of meaning, but instead tries to invoke a sense of uncertainty for which a perceived/characterised social transgressor is implicitly deemed responsible, for example:
>"umm..... idk??..lol..."
This means; "you have transgressed in some way against the delineated boundaries, and this is so anti-social and (in a way) inhuman to me that even being consciously aware of the fact of your having expressed it gives me an unheimliche, uncanny-valley kind of feeling". It mimics how they (millenial NPCs) respond IRL to confronting or 'weird' statements (especially, but not at all exclusively, non-consensus ethical and political statements).

Examining their idiosyncratic use of question-marks is very instructive. Observe how >>19180680 makes an ostensibly assertive statement that would merit a full stop (or just a blank space and/or line break implying an end to the sentence if nothing follows it, when writing informally), but he inexplicably follows it with a question mark:
>"Because it's bad writing? [...]"
This isn't a question, it's an assertive claim. The purpose of the question mark in this sentence isn't to make the sentence into a question, but to make the reader's internal voice mimic the poster's passive-aggressive, implicitly homosexual rising inflection ("up-talk") which would otherwise only be able to be present in audible speech. Why would anyone want to convey this? If it isn't just a typo, the decision to write such to convey rising inflection indicates that such inflection isn't just a meaningless habit, but actually conveys some modified meaning upon the sentence. To put it another way, the deliberate and contrived use of the question-mark to retain the rising inflection in translation via the written form shows that the writer feels that a part of the sentence's meaning would be left out if he did not do something to convey that inflection.

So, what is this dimension of meaning? The essential meaning of a rising inflection is something along the lines of:
>"look! I'm a faggot!"
The poster who feels the need to signal this LITERALLY CANNOT communicate without letting the other person know that he is gay, and that this fact conditions and undergirds whatever else he thinks and says. So an alternative rendering of the earlier example from >>19180680, conveying the same essential meaning, would be as follows:
>"Because it's bad writing (and I, a gay faggot, think this - my opinion being very much informed by the fact that I'm a neurotic fruit who desires male colons filled with shit and hair instead of the smooth curvature of a woman). [...]"
Watch out for this, it's more pervasive than you might realise.

>> No.19181303

>>19181176
Didn't read
Have a bump

>> No.19181309

>>19181176
You may be right but who cares

>> No.19181316

>>19181176
>Needs a TL;DR
They're being passive aggressive. Best just to confront their attitude first or you're not going to have a productive conversation. Know when to kick her to the curb, that sort of thing.

>> No.19181387

>>19181176
Why do you fascist leaning anti-zeitgeists always bring up gays? Your homo insecurities overshadow the content of your message.

>> No.19181404

>>19181176
Very based and correct observations.
I have noticed this myself.
It all comes back to avoiding committing to an assertion.

>> No.19181453

>>19181316
>Best just to confront their attitude first or you're not going to have a productive conversation. Know when to kick her to the curb, that sort of thing.
I always do as a matter of principle, and their response is the predictable meltdown into inarticulate expressions of awkwardness and frustration. Being willing to do this is important to me, because I want to filter these people out, and consistently develop and possess the strength of character to willingly accept socially alienating certain types rather than accept a state of implicit subjection to their passive-aggressive morés and mannerisms.

>>19181404
>It all comes back to avoiding committing to an assertion.
This

>> No.19181658

thanks schopenhauer i shall use this knowledge to insult other zoomers

>> No.19181705

>>19181176
umm...no one cares?

>> No.19181723

>>19181387
Prove it, or better yet, don't.

>> No.19181739

>>19181387
>insecurity
>phobia
Get over your useless power fantasies already, kid.

>> No.19181755

>>19181176
This is the most extra throwing of shade and I’m here for it, yasssss, slay queen!

>> No.19181765

>>19181176
Incredibly based?

>> No.19181782

>>19181755
>>19181765
Man, they're really, you know

>> No.19181796
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19181796

So an alternative rendering of [...] >>19181705, conveying the same essential meaning, would be as follows:
>"umm...no one cares (and I, a gay faggot, think this - my opinion being very much informed by the fact that I'm a neurotic fruit who desires male colons filled with shit and hair instead of the smooth curvature of a woman)."

>> No.19181812

>>19181782
What the fuck does this even mean.
>Man, they're really, you know

If you are gonna be retarded can you atleast pretend to be understandable

>> No.19181822

>>19181796
No an alternative rendering of what they're saying is that they're not saying anything at all. Go in the opposite direction and thank me later.

>>19181812
Lel, get on my level

>> No.19181832

>>19181822
> they're saying is that they're not saying anything at all.
Sounds like this also applies to you.

>> No.19181844

>>19181832
Then why are you so interested in what I have to say, if it's nothing at all?

>> No.19181847

i use . instead of ? when i ask a question, rhetorical or otherwise.

>> No.19181853

>>19181844
queer
>>19181847
based

>> No.19181859

>>19181176
Good analysis. The use of the question mark to convey at tone rather than ask a question is something I've noticed but never thought about consciously. Thank you for putting it into words.

>> No.19181871

>>19181853
fuck off don’t call me based. you’re like a child. worse you're like a parrot. worse yet you are indeed nothing but the broken voicebox of a toy. i do not wish for you to interact with me, in fact i wish for you to delete your worthless post. understand.

>> No.19181870

What?

>> No.19181880

Most based post I’ve seen in years… I’m gonna have to sit down wooah..

>> No.19181884

>>19181871
pretty funny. solid post.

>> No.19181899

>>19181176
the fact that i can hear myself speak whenever someone uses these stupid question marks annoys me, it signals to me that i'm dealing with a dumb cunt

>> No.19182137

>>19181880
Go waste three hours watching family guy videos on youtube you fucking loser

>> No.19182184

>>19181176
Um yikes sweaty who hurt you???

>> No.19182197

>>19182184
We're trying to have a productive conversation here?

>> No.19182233

>>19182137
I suppose you’re the poster in question

>> No.19182378

>>19181853
Yes I am queer, and you're also based on being a faggot

>> No.19182493

>>19181176
absolutely based, but please have sympathy for these people, they are victims of psychological warfare

>> No.19182499

>>19182137
family guy is goy propaganda engineered by freemasons and jews

>> No.19182508
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>>19182233
No I'm OP, and I took the abuse of ellipses and exaggerated 'wooah..' as indicative of a faggy 'ironybro' type temperament. I consider it unlikely that the poster to which I replied would have seriously agreed with my observations, or he wouldn't have behaved in the exact way I illustrated as suggestive of extreme homosexuality. Very nice double dubs btw

>>19182499
Also checked

>> No.19182521

>>19182508
That was me being dramatic to be funny. You threw me for a loop because I was in fact watching family guy clips on YouTube just prior to that comment

>> No.19182533

>>19182521
stop being a stupid goy?

>> No.19182547

>>19182533
Peter was singing eye of the tiger. It was one clip, get off my back, nazi

>> No.19182561

>>19182521
Just means I know your type, I'd tell you to stop wasting your time watching dumb shit but we both know you won't

>> No.19182567

>>19182508
You sound autistic if you're not doing a bit.

>> No.19182572

>>19181176
I purposefully no longer use question marks to end any texting sentences only for this reason. If it is necessary for context, I usually wait a while and send the question mark separately.

>> No.19182581

>>19182572
who do you text?

>> No.19182634

>>19182561
I watched it because I saw a tidbit of it on another platform and was curious what was going on in it. I’m so sorry I wasted that time instead of writing rants about speech patterns on posts on 4chan TO 4chan itself. I’m throwing some extra sass into this one, maybe you can write a full dissertation for us tomorrow, professor. That sound nice? In Adolf’s paradise you’d be the most decorated grammar Nazi around. Or better yet I cave your skull in with a mallet

>> No.19182645

>>19182567
The future belongs to high IQ borderline-autists

>> No.19182654
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>>19182634
ngmi

>> No.19182661

>>19182654
You’re autistic and have no girlfriend. You have little savings. You don’t have a job.

>> No.19182669

>>19181176
ok I mainly agree with your analysis but I'd also like to ad that a very similar set of mannerisms can be used to indicate self-effacement. they use the same semi-irony you mentioned to preemptively alleviate their own responsibility for any social transgressions they may, by their statement, be unknowingly committing.
either way it's all a symptom of the same root problem: the collective has gained too much power over the individual

>> No.19182708

>>19182581
friends, discord servers

>> No.19182713

>>19182645
I don't know about that, man.

>> No.19182719

>>19182661
I'm a crypto millionaire and I get laid all the time. I just go to the bar or a friend's party in nice clothes, come off as a detached and disinterested, get a few drinks in me and start making women laugh, maybe I'll flex my crypto portfolio and talk about how I work from home, and that's it. Fuck with me normalfag.

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>>19181176
pay no attention

>> No.19182745

>>19182719
I am so much unlike you that I have no idea how it is even possible to feel inclined to write something like that. Is your post ironic?

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>>19181176Killing Kafka - edwardnorton

Damp the way he lied abohut it. The bat wasgone. But the dirt clang to his heel. Likea honest dripper, peg orange carmel cake. And only stotic can tell where it is now. So wind yourwatch bye-and-bye me Im from the future.

"Kish, and their" i said it, out loud. Like pine to an orphan. Or milk to a farmers faire. Rocks connemra will never get me arsehole.

So he mapped out the gravesslowly taking care to rub each one with a enough honey that goblins wont be able to tell the diference. Fuck the dicken poker.

who is responsible for festing the shit dickwank. little triangles is what most of them cobweb about. dirty glaziers owninga whole team like that and still payiong them budget stetascope figures. draining, to say the least.

fun house like its bult on tnt trapdoors. open for business, and trips feww.

fell into that kindda coma and left the arsheol with teh fish behind, hot sweat. goal and randoom figures,ginneashes favohuruite cricketer. weldone yandom yates.

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>>19182745
No, just an aristocratic NEET sick of normalfags on here thinking they're the shit because they talk down to autistic people. I read books all day and do other hobbies (which I am really good at) and have a limited but existing social life that I don't care about at all. Gonna move somewhere rural soon and that's when it really starts, because shit is about to hit the fan. I want multiple (white) wives and a castle. Fuck jews and 3rd worlders.

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>>19181176
checkem'igotrandomzealots

>> No.19182776

>>19182669
Yes, but you should consider that the culture of self-effacement is tied to spiritual homosexuality - the reign of the slithering repugnant fruitcake enacting the revenge of the ugly upon the beautiful by rendering all conscientious aspiration and/or expression of cultivated excellence either passé or socially transgressive

>> No.19182788

based?

>> No.19182791

>>19182772
The fact that you're so inclined to not only share such details of your life but to phrase them so inflammatorily raises suspicion. You sound resentful, I would never envy a bitter person. If that's not the case and you're just weird, then all is well.

>> No.19182813

>>19182791
Ya you fuckin faggot motherfucker, I am weird.

>> No.19182840

>>19182791
he is trolling

>> No.19182843

>>19182791
>"you have transgressed in some way against [my] delineated boundaries, and this is so anti-social and (in a way) inhuman to me that even being consciously aware of the fact of your having expressed it gives me an unheimliche, uncanny-valley kind of feeling"

>> No.19182859

>>19182840
No, I'm not. And I'm getting ready for the coming hardships our civilisation will face at the end of the kali yuga, to defend my people and the legacy of our ancestors and the glory of the Light. I'm not a coward.

>> No.19182874

>>19182859
based if it were true

>> No.19182909

>>19182874
It is true you fucker. I want a castle with walls, the problem is Western Europe specifically the UK is expensive and doesn't usually have this, I want to be up on the battlements with the boys fighting off the hordes of "orcs".

>> No.19182914

>>19182843
Who are you quoting?

>> No.19182935

>>19181176
Rising inflection is more of a female thing than a gay thing, at least in the sense that women naturally talk that way while gays copy them. Same goes for phrasing assertions so that they sound like questions. Both piss me off, especially when they appear in writing, but question mark/exclamation point abuse is the worst offender. It's gotten to the point that any sentence ending in an exclamation point automatically strikes me as insincere and gay, even when it really shouldn't.

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>>19181176

>> No.19183894

>>19181176
Yeah the question mark thing annoys me. It's not that big a deal though.

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>>19181176
>it mainly involves abusing question marks and ellipses
>>19182935
>It's gotten to the point that any sentence ending in an exclamation point automatically strikes me as insincere and gay, even when it really shouldn't.

>> No.19184405

Ummm... Nigger? Lol?

>> No.19184585

>>19181387
Because homosexuals are inherently confused individuals. The anus is for expelling excrement, not for sexual intercourse. Sex is for creating new human beings, not for abusing your physiological reward systems for hedonistic pleasure.

>> No.19184676

>>19181176
Thanks for the laugh OP

>> No.19184971

>>19181176
Meds. Also Hegel was a hack who specifically wrote unintelligible gibberish to make people feel stupid if they didn't understand it. The only reason he's famous is because of his tenure and connections. Hegel is the equivalent of those ugly pretentious paintings that go for millions of dollars.

>> No.19185377

>>19181404
>It all comes back to avoiding committing to an assertion.
I notice this in uni a lot. Professors always talk in uncertainty when trying to claim or assert a statement
>we could assume...
>It's debated whether...
>I believe that...
>maybe
>could be
They use this shit for the most self-evident claims and a-priori assumptions, like they have a fear some metaphysician magician will prove them wrong in 50 years. Fucking faggots, just say what you mean to say and say it clearly. They make learning uninteresting

>> No.19185442

>>19184971
pray tell, why are you mentioning Hegel in this thread, anon

>> No.19185461

>>19185442
Dialectics of retardation

>> No.19185606

>>19184585
you know you can enjoy straight sex?

>> No.19185816

>>19185442
I mixed up hegel and schopenhauers paintings in my head, my bad.