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>influences Marx, Kojeve (in turn influenced the French pomos and Fukuyama's end of History), Gentile (Doctrine of Fascism writer)
>basically invents the 20th century

psst... nothing personnel kid

>> No.19178700
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19178700

Have you read either Hegel or Marx on history? From both of their own perspectives that is "not how it works" to be flippant. Just sayin

>> No.19178806

>>19177489
>influences the biggest retards in the history of political science, indirectly causing the downfall of several rich cultures under totalitarian states run by schizos
Yes, truly a marvellous thinker

>> No.19178823

>>19177489
Its a shame Engels dismissed Schelling while at uni, the world would be a better place had he not insisted on shielding Hegel from criticism.

>> No.19179200

>>19177489
Marx was far more influenced by Feuerbach and Gentile by Fichte.

>> No.19179207

>>19178700
>Have you read either Hegel or Marx on history? From both of their own perspectives that is "not how it works" to be flippant.
It is according to Hegel tho

>> No.19179212

>>19179200

>> No.19179213

>>19179200
And Hegel was influenced by Fichte
Also Hegel's dialectics usually get reduced down to Fichtes/Fichtes dialectics get attributed to Hegel

>> No.19179215

why do amerishits pretend to like hegel?

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19179222

>Influenced:
>Virtually all subsequent Western philosophy,
Reason is your only god on the radio, kneel and pray.

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19179229

Kant/Hegel is just a good starting off point once you admit to yourself that sceptics have a point.

He is not to blame for any of the thinkers after him. That's like blaming the inventor of the aircraft for bomber plains.

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19179234

Greatest pseud in the history of philosophy - a truly retarded genius, machinating and erecting maze-like argumentative contrivances to justify his shitty ideas. Fuck Russel, but the quote stands out: “This illustrates an important truth, namely, that the worse your logic, the more interesting the consequences to which it gives rise.”

>> No.19179243

>>19179222
>inspired radical sjw philosophy
So this is the power of reason...

>> No.19179350

>>19179234
I have a PhD in physics and I think the woman is a cringe realist

>> No.19179471

>>19178806
Why are you taking it so personal tho just relax nigga one or two dead cracker towns is finneee

>> No.19179698

>>19179471
>cracker
Joggers please only post on /pol/

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How did he ever get recognised as anything but a jibbering retard?

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>>19178806
All according to plan

>> No.19179833

>>19179234
Where in this post does she use rigorous scientific method to prove hegel wrong? Looks we like we keep on winning hegelchads. I can guarantee this pseud has either been divorced or murder-suicided by now.

>> No.19181114

>>19179207
The owl of minerva flies at dusk anon. Culture is informed by the revolution that felled the previous. Furthermore Hegel did not even see the possibility of revolution in Prussia, he thought he was at the end of history.
Here is a quote from wikipedia if you don't take me at my word:
Hegel, proceeding from providentialist theory, argued that "what is real is reasonable" and World-Historical individuals are World-Spirit's agents. Hegel wrote: "Such are great historical men—whose own particular aims involve those large issues which are the will of the World-Spirit."[10] Thus, according to Hegel, a great man does not create historical reality himself but only uncovers the inevitable future.

How does that fit with Hegel "inventing the 20th century"?

>> No.19181148

>>19179780
If you work through the actual passages, it is a lot more reasonable, relevant, and interesting. It describes the development and disequilibrium of hierarchy in culture.
The phase the diagram is also missing is that the slave gains power and authenticity from realization of their contingency, and overpowers the master.
This is also the origin of Heidegger's whole exit concept of authenticity, and for better or worse Lacan's mirror stage imo.