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19161530 No.19161530[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Capitalism glorifies the valorization of capital, not to fullfils needs. Capitalist always has been focusing to increase their wealth by simply using money to buy something, commanding workers to make commodity, and to sell it again to get money in the market place (remember simple formula M-C-M). This process of production stimulates workers to keep going (it makes ‘em stay in alienation and it makes their surplus value stolen) and it makes consumers in constant state of consuming something that they don’t need.

Reference: Marx - Capital.

Anyway, was my fit hard in this pic ?

>> No.19161599
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>>19161530
Marx's economics is good but scientific socialism is flawed. Embrace Fascism and dynamism. It's the only thing every Revolutionary Marxist has managed to do.

>> No.19161925

>>19161599
Why should i embrace fascism and dynamism? They are evil toward lgbtq people.

Btw i am trans, if that matter.

>> No.19161938

>woah man, in capitalism you can like invest money to produce something to make more money..also people sometimes buy things not because of needs but because they have wants too

truly ground breaking stuff

>> No.19161950

>>19161599
>support Marx's economics
>embrace fascism
How is embracing state monopolism fascism is all about logical step from Marx's economics theory?

>> No.19161973

>>19161950
>state monopolism
That's even worse than capitalism, because then only a small group of people have power and wealth (politicians and state employees- check out Shitsrael, China and Russia).

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>>19161925
>They are evil toward lgbtq people.
The funny thing is that historically, they weren't.
Trans people wouldn't exist in a Fascist State by virtue of the state taking the issue of mental health very seriously. The social factors which contribute to the trans phenomenon will simply be eliminated.

>>19161950
Economies, like individuals are dynamic. I have no idea what you mean to say by "state monopolism", so I cannot respond to you in any concrete manner. The role of 'private' property in Fascism was to serve a social role—socialism would only come naturally as a result of the efforts of the state to educate people.

>> No.19161995

>>19161530
*cock slaps you*

>> No.19162006

>>19161530
anon the world is full of contradictions just be urself no need to be concrete like this just imagine later on inthe world u might not be trans in fascism so ur not truly lgbt ok?? is just due to the conditions of this world. :) dont base ur world view on what u are now but what everything could be regardless of who u are as a eprson and what benefits u. choose what is bset for the world and fight for it anon. i love u.

>> No.19162023

>>19161980
Nazism is the perfect repsentation of fascism, innit?

>> No.19162042

>>19162023
No because it isn't Fascism. They didn't even have a philosophy.

>> No.19162146

>>19161973
>>19161980
I reread what you are saying, and what you said about China and USSR is precisely why I do not consider them to be 'Fascist' and I consider the Mussolini regime the most honest application of Marx's economic theories on a national level. That there was almost no internal bloodshed in Italy at the time compared to the other 'Marxist', read: kasernenkommunismus regimes is quite telling.

The fact that the overwhelming majority of Marxists, either laymen or intellectual fail to acknowledge the accomplishments of Fascist Italy goes to show just how important 'branding' is. If Mussolini didn't call himself a 'Fascist' every Marxist would point to the Regime as an example of 'socialism working' while the intellectuals would simply not be happy with how he abandoned historical materialism, which is just about what every 'Marxist' revolutionary did. Perhaps Rosa Luxembourg being the exception, however Germany was not the best place to start a revolution if you ask me.

I especially hate modern 'Marxist'-Leninists because everything they criticize the Mussolini regime for was everything Lenin and his party was guilty of and more. Lenin was not around long enough to really do statesmanship but the NEP was a step in the right direction. I refrain on being too critical on Lenin because his actions were committed during wartime however the question is if the war was really necessary.

>> No.19162540

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