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I've been reading Buddhists texts lately, mostly Zen texts, the Diamond Sutra and Nagarjuna's MMK, since I find the concept of Emptiness interesting.
Two nights ago I was having a mundane but somewhat stressful dream, and at some point during the dream, I realized that everything, including me, was Empty, and that there was nothing to fear. My worries immediately vanished, I became fully lucid within the dream, then I woke up.
Are there any books on how to replicate this feeling, especially during waking life? Have any of you had a similar experience?

>> No.19139436

>>19139412
Based ascending anon

>> No.19139573

>>19139412
have you read Rob Burbea's Seeing That Frees : Meditations on Emptiness? I haven't because i'm probably not experienced enough (i've only read What The Buddha Taught and meditated like twice) but it seems close to what you're asking

>> No.19139583

>>19139573
I haven't, thanks anon. I'm not experienced either and I don't even meditate regularly, this experience was a fluke. But I wonder if there is a parallel between this feeling of freedom and clarity that made me become lucid, and the actual concept of "awakening" in Buddhist practice.

>> No.19139619

>>19139583
you can order the paperback here for a decent price
https://www.troubador.co.uk/bookshop/mind-body-spirit/seeing-that-frees/
(it's way more expensive on amazon)

What you describe indeed sounds like "awakening" feels like. I've never had such experience myself, though i think i've caught a glimpse of what it feels like when doing acid.

>> No.19139648

good for u, OP

sorry, replying to another thread

>> No.19139677

>>19139619
It's also on z-lib/libgen but thank you.
I've been wanting to try out psychs too (shrooms though, not LSD), but I wonder if people are right when they say those realizations are "unearned".

>> No.19139801

>>19139412
I don’t have any books on the subject, but there’s a practice in Tibetan Buddhism called dream yoga that’s similar to what you described. It’s one of the six yogas of Naropa, a specialty of the Kagyu school in particular.

>> No.19139840

>>19139412
>Are there any books on how to replicate this feeling, especially during waking life?
No, this the start of another misery, the quest to find something long lasting within existence. This is another desire, a heroin injection which you will need more and more till your death. Move to Buddhist Monastery or suffer.

>> No.19140028

>>19139801
Dream yoga is based

>> No.19140049
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19140049

>>19139412
>he wants to go back to sleep
ngmi

>> No.19140111

>>19140049
What do you mean?

>> No.19140170

>>19139840
Best response

>> No.19140183

>>19140111
Attachment to meditative states

>> No.19140404

>>19140183
It wasn't a meditative state, just the lucidity.

>> No.19140946

>>19139573
This and Dream Yoga by Andrew Holecek, and similar books like The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep

>> No.19140963

>>19139677
LSD is probably better, btw, but I'm not sure. You basically won't get to keep anything you experience besides faith.

>> No.19141009

>>19139412
Don't read. Meditate.

>> No.19141218

Lotus Sutra when it talks about the underlying nature of things being as you glimpsed.
The sukha (sweetness) of the third jhana is kind of like what you are talking about. Look into samatha meditation for deliberately cultivating these states.
Samatha cultivates these nice jhana states to loosen the hold of hindrances on you. As the other anon pointed out, don’t get attached. As you keep going the various qualities of the jhana states become the hindrances.

>> No.19141865

>>19141218
Attachment to jhanas is better than all other forms of attachment at least

>> No.19141935

>>19141865
Only if you're in a monastery otherwise it is a good recipe for suffering

>> No.19142000

>>19139412
Huineng had the perfect understanding. The more you reread the Platform Sutra and the more you spend time understanding every piece of Buddhist terminology and each of the Sutras mentioned in the Platform the more you'll understand completely. The hardest part is dealing with the doubts or further questions which upon investigation just take you back to where you already are.

Just smile, laugh, and meditate at all times.