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>be NEET
>have the opportunity to read 16 hours a day everyday
>try to pick up a few books
>get scared that I don't read remember anything but the vaguest contours
>stop reading books altogether and browse 4channel instead
How do I stop this demented cycle of insanity?

>> No.19122656

Try getting a job.

>> No.19122666

>>19122656
I'm currently trying to get one, waiting to hear from my potential employers now though.

>> No.19122669

I don't remember much either. I just read. I hope I'm gonna make it some day.

>> No.19122671

Use a reading ruler

>> No.19122674

>>19122669
The only time when I remember something from my readings was when I went "Fuck it" and just read it without taking notes and thinking about the material on my own and discussing it with my friends, ironically enough lmao.

>> No.19122680

>>19122642
Not how your mind works. Your brain does not forget anything. Every action, emotion, every piece of knowledge, has an irreversible effect on the patterns of your neurons forever. You are not the same person before and after reading a book, even if you “forget” everything.

>> No.19122689

>>19122680
But how do you recall stuff from your brain if everything is there? Or how do you improve it?

>> No.19122717

>>19122642
You need to form a habit. I've found the best way to do this is to piggy-back off existing habits.
So, for example, I try to read and/or study after I jerk off. Since I'm jerking off, I must have some time on my hands. So after I binge porn and spurt my thick goo, I get some productive reading in.
Then, not only do I feel good from fapping, I also feel good about myself.

Of course, you can do this with any recurring activity you do throughout the day (morning coffee, whatever) but I'm a pretty habitual coomer so the fapping works great for me.
Once you form the habit, it's easy to maintain.

>> No.19122725

When I was a neet I thought I would spend my free time doing interesting and fun things all day, but I really just ended up wasting time on the internet, getting high, and going down political rabbit holes that I probably shouldn't have. Going to work sucked but it did force me to get back into a consistent routine and cherish my free time more instead of wasting it on doing nothing.

>> No.19122727

>>19122666
it's easy because of the labor shortage. You are a shoe-in.

>> No.19122729

>>19122689
Why would you need to?

>> No.19122734

>>19122642

You won't remember every detail of what you read, it's enough if you remember the main poinst at least.

>> No.19122771

The problem with me is that I cannot engage in a lengthy and effective discourse on the books I have read or have been reading. Just what the hell is wrong with me?

>> No.19122787

>>19122734
What is the point of reading a book instead of reading it's main point on wikipedia?

>> No.19122797

>>19122680
That's true, but I want to be able to recall the knowledge I've gained in my readings. Feels kinda embarrassing discussing a book you've years ago with your friends and not being able to recall the contents of the book. What you said reminded me of Emerson's quote about how he doesn't remember all of his meals but each of them shaped him.

>> No.19122809

block 4chan for a start

>> No.19122810

>>19122642
you have fried your dopamine receptors from tons of internet scrolling, porn, and crappy food.

You need to dopamine fast and fix your diet. I recommend the ultramind solution to start with.

Furthermore you have very low concentration, I recommend the mind illuminated to teach you how to build up concentration.

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>>19122810
>try to do any of these self-help methods
>dont notice any benefits immediatly
>drop it and be back at square one

>> No.19122872

>>19122787
The experience

>> No.19122889

>>19122810
>>19122842
I've done meditation before and it has helped me tremendously in the past. I dropped the practice at one point though, so now I am back to square one. Would it be okay if I started with 5 minute sessions and then incrementally add time instead of immediately aiming for 25 minutes at the start?

>> No.19122970

>>19122889
I recall reading some study that found people improved after just 5 minutes. It's really about what you want, you can stay with just 5 minutes a day forever if that is enough for you.

>> No.19123793

>>19122842
>>19122642
The truth is that this happens because there's no real reason to do it. Why would you self-improve? Really, what is the reason? Why read, why create, why do anything? You will not change the world, you will always be surrounded by ugliness and meaninglessness. After you die you will be forgotten. If there is a God he's far beyond reach because nobody in this world can truly believe like people believed when one's picture of the universe was so narrow.
How do you live when all you can expect from people is at the very best nothing at all? What is the point of virtue if the only worth is in money and the petty things of our time? Why stay sane when sanity is a curse that will kill your spirit? Why be decent and quiet when everyone is screaming and trampling each other for attention? None of these things achieve anything, they never will. Why work when success is dictated entirely by opportunity? Why try when crooks and cheat always win? Why? Why do anything but numb yourself every day, if you don't have the will to die right away, if you still hold onto the useless idea that you have dear ones whose feelings shouldn't be hurt?
What is the point of all this shit? The world we live in is ugly and evil triumphs every day. Every moment we spend in this world is an orgy of violence and pain, and nothing will ever improve it because this cruelty is written in the very fabric of the universe.
Why do anything to change this if it's clearly impossible and useless, and all you will earn is mockery rather than a seat in heaven?
All my life I have thought that my idea was resisting the evil nature of life, but the greatest impediment is actually that I gave in to a worthless idea of goodness, an idea that is crumbling before my very eyes. And I'm terrified of accepting that life is nothing but the unthinking, inhuman black void of entropy that will suck in and drown everything that we attempt to elevate. And people have slowly accepted this and will be soon one with nature again, like the small insects and the other creatures who are adrift. And I understand why: because nature tends to balance and no species is capable of sustaining in such numbers as us, without a God or higher belief, while holding thoughts in its head. Something has to go and human beings have already decided what it is.

>> No.19123802

>>19122642
am i b&?

>> No.19123821
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>>19123793
>Why would you self-improve? Really, what is the reason? Why read, why create, why do anything?
Because I choose to

>> No.19123841

>>19123821
Why did you choose so? If you create for this world and attempting to keep it afloat your are not only doing something meaningless but doing damage. People will believe that there will always be others who create and improve things no matter how bad things get. What people really need is more grief.

>> No.19123878

>>19122642
Read more interesting books is the only advice for this

>> No.19123890

>>19123841
>Why did you choose so?
I felt like it.

>> No.19123892

>>19122889
The end goal of meditation(for most westerner's purposes at least) is a heightened state of active awareness at all times. Starting to meditate at all will train you towards this end.

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>>19122642
>be NEET

kys, human trash

>> No.19124047

>>19123890
You felt like it then and feel like it now? What are you doing exactly besides posting about it? Do you ever wonder why you're doing it?

>> No.19124161

>>19124047
No

>> No.19124184

>>19124161
So you're just LARPing on 4chan, got it.

>> No.19124197

>>19124184
Yes

>> No.19124255

>>19122810
The fuck is the ultramind solution? How does one dopamine fast?

Also don't read that book, it's written by an absolute degen

>> No.19124339

>>19123793
>you will always be surrounded by ugliness and meaninglessness
Either your life sucks, or you live in Brazil

I've been living in the abyss of depression for years, and having a healthy life toke me away from it.
Don't give excuses to yourself for being a pussy and hating life. If you still do it, just kys faggot. Life is a precious gift, especially if you're not dissabled

>> No.19124398

>>19124339
It's not about "being a pussy" you fucking mongoloid, you cannot even choose words properly, why the fuck do you think you have anything positive to say you fucking shitsmear?

>> No.19124525

>>19124398
>waah waah woe is me
I really hate you self-pitying faggots

>> No.19124560

>>19124525
I'm not self-pitying I just do not like what life has to offer. I would smash your fucking face with a hammer if you were in front of me you stupid fucking baby. Fucking retard. God damn I fucking hate arguing with stupid fucks on this fucking site.

>> No.19124604

>>19124398
It is indeed about being a pussy. Not wanting to improve yourself because "no one will remember you in the future", "muh eternal void after death"

So those are your excuses to not lift weights? not to do sports? not to look for a better job?

You're right. You're not even a pussy. Not even a loser. You already gave up on life before even trying
You're what people don't want to become

>> No.19124625

>>19124560
You're a really pathetic, resentful, hate-filled little faggot. I don't even like Nietzsche, but he perfectly described the resentment of people like you.

>> No.19124785

>>19124604
This anon is being harsh but honest. Most nihilists are just resentful losers or cowards too afraid to try. Actually try to improve your life, anon. It's the only one you have. If another anon in a similar situation is in this thread, I hope they take this advice seriously. You still have many years ahead of you and it's not too late.

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>>19124785
You're right in all senses. Also yep, I'm being kinda harsh.
Conflict will make weak nihilists just weaker. They need guidance
I wish I had it earlier in life, but at least I'm in my mid 20's, so it's not extremely late.

Also not gonna lie, the mental gymnastics that a brain can doo to lie to itself are tremendous. When I was depressed, I was convinced that I was a piece of crap who deserves the worst

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>>19124852
*continuation of post
So yeah, it doesn't matter what's the meaning of life or if life itself is pain

As long you have a life of virtue and good actions, you and everyone around you will be happy.

>But what is happiness?
>But what is a good action?
Nigga you know. Exercise, eat healthy, socialize, read, do art, and help a friend once in a while

>> No.19124884

>>19124852
One other thing I want to throw out there is to recommend that anons learn a skill. My personal recommendation is some kind of musical instrument. I'm in my mid 20s too and I wish I had started learning piano earlier.

>> No.19124961

>>19123793
the book I recommended, the mind illuminated, resolves this too.

>> No.19125109

>>19124870
>>19124884
you are a retard and your cliches have been said 6 million times by other midwits line you

>> No.19125149

>>19122671
I do the same with my bookmark
Am i retarded?

>> No.19125155

>>19123793
You can do no better than eat, drink, and enjoy your toil, for that is a gift from God.

>> No.19125173

>>19125109
What's wrong with what he and the other anon said? Seems like fine advice to me. Cliche, but maybe for a reason.

>> No.19125510

>>19124884
You are nothing and know nothing. Not about me nor life, idiot.
This board is entirely filled with stupid fucks. Every fucking time you go off on wild assumptions and say retarded dumb shit. Every single fucking time you start masturbating in your little retard bubble. Stick your guitar all the way up your asshole you fucking child. I hope that life will leave a crater when it comes around.
I'm not gonna bother replying to the other tards.

>> No.19125687

>>19122642
Reading is like breathing air or eating, you are not all air or food, still you are made of them. You will not remember every word still they part of you.

>> No.19125724

>>19125510
I don't get why you're lashing out at people trying to help you, anon. Why do you reject their advice? Why can't you be helped?

>> No.19125827

>>19125724
Because it's not advice, it's an attempt to "own" me because I expressed uncomfortable things.