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19114366 No.19114366 [Reply] [Original]

is it possible to support his suicide from an artistic perspective? or is that morally impermissible?

>> No.19114376

Something can be both wrong and artistic, I don't think acknowledging artistic value is necessarily compromising on morals.

>> No.19114387

>>19114366
I wish I could invent a time machine, go back, show him that picture and tell him it was him in the future. Dude would disembowel himself with a spoon.

>> No.19114398
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>>19114376
It seems hard for something to be both artistic and morally wrong though. For Mishima, I mean. He thought they were the same thing.

>> No.19114425

>>19114398
Well, he came from a culture that glorified suicide so that's not surprising. I'll agree that artistic beauty tends to align with virtue, but something can possess some virtues while lacking others. I may find suicide and homosexuality repugnant, but patriotism and dedication to a cause are both rather virtuous. I don't agree with what he did, but I can admire that he had beliefs he was willing to follow to the end. That's the artistic beauty in his death in my opinion.

>> No.19114768

>>19114366
If it wasn't a botched job maybe

>> No.19114773

How do you “support” a suicide? It happened. There’s nothing to support.

>> No.19114814
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>>19114773
I mean, are you glad he killed himself because it completed his life as an artist, both a performance artist and novelist, or are you sad he killed himself because he could have written more novels then?

>> No.19114822

>>19114366
Absolutelt. It's also possible defend 9/11 as an aesthetic/romantic event. Unironically.

>> No.19114857

>>19114366
Absolutely, go read Sun & Steel

For him, life was a preparation to face death in a beautiful and transcendent way. He couldn't imagine someone dying while weak and flabby, it was something you only deserved as a being embodying his conception of tragedy