/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19100918]

So tired of literary discourse becoming centered around 'Oppressors' vs 'Oppressed'

[Anonymous No.19100933]

>>19100918
So tired of litterary discourse becoming centered around "antagonists" vs "protagonists"

[Anonymous No.19100954]

>>19100918
Tired of bourgeois cultural oppression?

TRY EXTRACTION OF SURPLUS VALUE

[Anonymous No.19100990]

oh, you're tired of it huh? how do you think the oppressed feel? better yet, how do you feel about the objective fact that history and societal evolution is nothing but class struggle? its kind of a hard fact to ignore when it it LITERALLY everything

this is seriously basic stuff OP

[Anonymous No.19101016]

No one in a liberal democracy is oppressed

[Anonymous No.19101031]

>>19101016
usa has the largest prison population of the world

[Anonymous No.19101042]

I would simply ignore literary discourse. It's not exactly hard science. These people are stuck in bubbles that makes it hard for them to think for themselves. Just read stuff and form your own opinions. Shouldn't be that hard.

[Anonymous No.19101048]

>>19101031
>commit crime
>face consequences
AAAAAH IM BEING OPPRESSED!!!!

[Anonymous No.19101050]

>>19101031
>kill a guy high on pcp
>go to jail
>"It is true I've killed a man, and yet I'm the victim here"
>rattles chain
>"see you later, kiddo"

[Anonymous No.19101055]

>>19100990
Who said anything about class struggle?

[Anonymous No.19101057]

>>19101031
Whites, by definition, cannot be oppressed. Americans (black and beyond) are not oppressed. The whites are settlers, and nonwhites benefit from labor extracted from the global south, which invalidates Spivakian strategic essentialism.

[Anonymous No.19101059]

>>19101057
>by definition
What definition?

[Anonymous No.19101068]

>>19101031
because America is a decadent shit hole where people are free to do just about anything they want, there is NO discipline, no exercising of will. decadence and personal liberty means mass degeneracy, and degeneracy means boundaries will be pushed and there will be crime, crime mean you get arrested

america unironically has the largest prison population because it is so liberal, there is so little control over people, no discipline, either from the state or social norms. niggers, spics, and white trash run wild and do drugs and start shooting and robbing everyone, getting into all sorts of trouble because they are mindless degenerates, then the prisons fill up with them

[Anonymous No.19101069]

>>19101059
Dont reply to the global south poster, he is insane

[Anonymous No.19101083]

>>19101059
>>19101057

[Anonymous No.19101084]

>>19101031
No one is forced to commit crime in a liberal democracy

[Anonymous No.19101099]

>>19100933
This but not ironically

[Anonymous No.19101100]

>>19100990
This is what a one track mind looks like

[Anonymous No.19101108]

>>19101059
>>19101083
The postcolonial definition:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guilt
http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-experts-02-02.htm
https://www.elitedaily.com/life/racism-prejudice-understanding/1363914

[Anonymous No.19101113]

>>19101100
history is literally nothing but class struggle, this isn't my opinion, its an objective fact. do you even read?

[Anonymous No.19101118]

>>19101113
History is actually a bunch of retards milling about while a handful of competent men accomplish stuff

[Anonymous No.19101132]

>>19101108
Ah so the definition made up by midwit bourgeoisie to soothe their guilt for being so awfully wealthy?

[Anonymous No.19101133]

>>19100918
what happened to people i like vs people i dont like

[Anonymous No.19101143]

>>19101108
What's the definition? Post it. Don't just drop a bunch of links you haven't even read.

[Anonymous No.19101150]

>>19101113
Class struggle is a major theme in history but that doesn't make it everything. There are plenty of events in history unrelated to class struggle your lens just ignores them.

[Anonymous No.19101152]

>>19101150
Or reframes them from the perspective of class struggle. Either way its a reductionist paradigm you're in.

[Anonymous No.19101156]

>>19101150
Like when one girl licks the poonanner of some other chic?

And it feels kinda right?

Like, don’t stop kinda right?

[Anonymous No.19101159]

>>19101150
wrong

[Anonymous No.19101161]

>>19101150
>>19101152
Not them, but historiography indicates that all frames and lenses will limit vision. Historiography is a choice of glasses to wear, where to look, and what to see.

Claiming that a framing device is "reductionist" indicates that you aren't aware that historiography is of necessity a reductionist hermeneutics.

Insult him for being a babby tankie instead.

[Anonymous No.19101176]

>>19101161
It's not the lens itself that is reductionist but the tankie's inability to use more than one lens.

I'm not claiming any framing device is reductionist on its own - that doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.19101209]

>>19101176
framing devices are *necessarily* reductivist.

Get your phone out. Take a photo of something. Now look at the thing. Compare your field of view to the photo.

Better historians are merely more entertaining, and have a better woven skein of lies that cannot be trivially disproven by archival engagement.

I mean I'm pulling out end game hermeneutics here to wipe out a babby tankie, but the little fuckers deserve it for their lack of humility, especially in front of the class and members of the class.

Fucker doesn't know I work 60 hours and then union duties on top.

[Anonymous No.19101247]

>>19101132
>>19101143
White: member of a collective delineated by their oppressor status vis a vis folk taxonomy, beneficiary of systemic alignments in SES per McIntosh's criteria. Or you can think of the average white in Fanon's psychoexistentialist crisis - whites are a conditioning class, they exist to subsume others in nested hierarchies of privation by degree of ancestry associated with whiteness (despite the oppressor class dismissing limpieza de sangre in the modern world). The loss of ability to formally acknowledge any presumption of superiority, despite benefiting explicitly from systemically unjust institutions (implicit privilege), creates internal conflict which causes whites to either
>ally with the oppressed
or
>oppose the oppressed
but a white can never truly align themselves with their victims as the dominant class. Which makes them the forever-oppressor, no matter who has possession of Master's Tools.

[Anonymous No.19101253]

>>19101247
words words words words

[Anonymous No.19101266]

>>19101253
Yeah, I gave the definition as requested. Words are required.

[Anonymous No.19101268]

>>19101247
Not even /pol/s butthurt about the hebrews is comparable to this lmao

[Anonymous No.19101273]

>>19101268
You know what's even more amusing about Fanon? He only describes whiteness in a US context and is completely oblivious to how race functions generally under capitalism.

[Anonymous No.19101388]

Challenge for anons it: explain exactly how you are oppressed.
>Hard mode: avoid the suffix "-ism"

[Anonymous No.19101452]

>>19101388
Gravity is oppressing me

[Anonymous No.19101463]

>>19101388
jewish people

[Anonymous No.19101535]

>>19101388
I don't feel oppressed at all; of course I do have to scrounge and scramble around to make ends meet, but then making it through another month always does feel kind of rewarding. I'm white, though, so perhaps attitudes like mine are part of the problem? Maybe, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.19101554]

>>19101535
You're describing this >>19101247 - you are part of the problem, and will be until you die. It doesn't matter that you're upstanding or average, being white invalidates everything you'll ever accomplish.

[Anonymous No.19101609]

Who aint a slave? Tell me that

[Anonymous No.19101617]

>>19101609
I'm a slave of two things. Pussy and beers, and a good book too.

[Anonymous No.19101682]

>this entire thread

[Anonymous No.19101709]

>>19101388
It is harder for me to get a job, even in government positions, due to affirmative action policies. Years ago it was harder for me to get into a university for the same reason.

[Anonymous No.19101750]

>>19101388
Surplus value is extracted from my labor. i work the means of production but i dont get the value of my labor., it goes to someone who """"""""privately owns it"""""""" whatever that's supposed to mean im subjected to all manor of unjustified hierarchies, im virtually a slave. its quite tiresome really.

[Anonymous No.19101773]

>>19101750
>>19101388

BTFO!!!!!

[Anonymous No.19101810]

>>19101750
Today I was thinking about how my Jew doctor charged me $50 for a service fee for "COVID safety protocols" despite not having any COVID safety protocols in the office, and I thought about how I was going to spend that $50 on a gift for my mom, but instead now it will go to buying an unnecessarily expensive treat for my doctor's Jew daughter. My working class mom's nice present has been converted into a Jew's daughter's meaningless and unappreciated sixth restaurant outing this month or pocket money to spend on clothing. A nice gift for a nice person is now a Jew's half forgotten bauble in potentia.

Somehow it made the dialectical systemic distributed sucking of my money out of my pockets and redistributing it to a rent-seeker's children in a broken economy more real and more personal when I imagined the concrete outcome of the concrete exchanged money, and it wasn't me but someone dear to me who was deprived of something. He's a mediocre doctor.

>The actual pressure must be made more pressing by adding to it consciousness of pressure, the shame must be made more shameful by publicizing it. Every sphere of German society must be shown as the partie honteuse of German society: these petrified relations must be forced to dance by singing their own tune to them!

[Anonymous No.19101813]

>>19101750
Your employer will be ecstatic to hear that you don't mind going home without a paycheque anymore, at least, on account of you being such a slave and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.19101826]

>>19101813
That's already what he does. He is sent home with exactly enough credit chits to buy another day's sustenance from his employer's brother in law and pay another day's rent to his employer's cousin. That's not "pay."

[Anonymous No.19101840]

>>19101099
what makes you think I was being ironic?

[Anonymous No.19101872]

>>19101840
Because you're antagonising other people.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19102008]

>>19100918
I agree.
Kill all oppressors.
Let women raise no more of them

[Anonymous No.19102037]

>>19100990
Fuck the oppressed. They need to be oppressed even more.

[Anonymous No.19102072]

>>19101872
who & how?

[Anonymous No.19102125]

>>19101750
Surplus value = company profits. Company profits are distributed to shareholders. Therefore, if you own stock you can extract surplus value from an even more profitable company than the one where you work. That's literally freedom, not oppression. Try again

[Anonymous No.19102127]

>>19102008
lets humble ourselfs and start small, maybe first we can get women, with their vapid little brains, to stop desperately attention whoring on social media for validation first

[Anonymous No.19102142]

>>19102125
>bro just buy stocks with the non existent money that was taken from you by capitalists so you can have the privilege of being alive

[Anonymous No.19102148]

>>19102037
A lot of them want to be oppressed and thus take no measure to stop being oppressed.

[Anonymous No.19102179]

>>19102008
You have such an apocalyptic view of humanity, Butters--kinda sad.

[Anonymous No.19102180]

>>19102125
Maybe in an actual economy with real growth, but meaningful growth ceased in first world economies in the 70s, and the financial speculation class converted stock markets into a private monopoly for themselves, so they could strategically cannibalize the decaying corpse of the global economy by moving money around. It no longer generates wealth except in tiny pockets, it is in net entropy, but for a minority with a monopoly it can simulate growth by increasing the decay in other sectors, especially the working class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krP6eJZehSw

If you have faith in markets you're a dumbass. Fuck commies too, they think the solution is to hold hands and sing songs about solidarity until everyone spontaneously "votes" the bankers and financiers out of power. They are completely controlled opposition at this point. But Brenner is still right about everything in this.

[Anonymous No.19102272]

>>19101159
not wrong

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19102273]

>>19102179
It was hyperbolic, but it is generally what needs to happen.
—To AVOID apocalypse

[Anonymous No.19102318]

>>19101554
Interesting. It doesn't mean that much to me; I dare say it doesn't mean that much to alot of people, howsoever you choose to divvy them up.

[Anonymous No.19102364]

>>19102008
This sounds like a post-hoc rationalization for why you dying alone is actually revolutionary praxis

[Anonymous No.19102372]

>>19102364
Ouch

[Anonymous No.19102402]

>>19100918
Marxism requires "liberation of the working man" but that didn't sell well in America, so they contrived Cultural Marxism and devised to preach other forms of "liberation" - which means finding the "oppressed" and trying to make them as discontented as possible. The real oppressed are the people having to suffer their society being constantly attacked and destroyed by (((Marxists))).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL4lLCbXfnM

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19102447]

>>19102402
No, it sold well. The working class never liked being underpaid and overworked. But we had a huge country to sprawl out in to escape. Individualist freedoms were promised and people went to get it. The rest was the old divide and conquer tactics.
>CULTURAL MARXISM EEEEK
That was done within to divide and conquer. Our “society” has always been a simple work camp designed to make a select few millions and billions of dollars. It’s always ALWAYS been destroyed. The handful of artists and talent that squeaked through made the place look hospitable and cultured, but it’s hotdogs and fried butter on a stick riding around in a Rascal hopped up on opioids.
That’s (((capitalism))) and it always has been.

>>19102372
I’m sure he’s glad someone felt the sting

[Anonymous No.19102449]

>>19102273
what needs to happen is proper exercising of authority motivated by hyper ethnic nationalist ideological radicalization which intimately chains people to the goal of environmental consciousness as an extension of the existential reality of their collective racial consciousness. literally all environmentalist movements in the world have their roots in national socialism, which not only pioneered sustainable development techniques and technology and animal rights, deeply enshrining it in the ideology, but actually walked the walk with policy, using unilateral power to enforce environmentalism, making them the greenest superpower in the world

you arent going to accomplish ANYTHING within a squabbling liberal bureaucracy or leaving existential choices up to the masses of working class people who will never reach a consensus until the apocalypse is already beating down their door and killing their families, possibly not even then

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19102471]

>>19102449
We’ve had centuries of it. Fock’way

[Anonymous No.19102475]

rightoidbros? marxistranies are killing us ITT...

[Anonymous No.19102480]

>>19102471
no we haven't, are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.19102482]

>>19101617
Hell yeah dude

[Anonymous No.19102493]

>>19102471
looks like you've been adequately programmed by liberal capitalist media

[Anonymous No.19102498]

>>19102008
resentment speaks

[Anonymous No.19102499]

>>19102447
>tripfag
ignored

[Anonymous No.19102520]

>>19102449
>you arent going to accomplish ANYTHING
Said the nazbol to the anarchist

[Anonymous No.19102534]

>>19102447
I'm amazed that a middle-aged hermit who supposedly reads a lot could still be so sophomoric. what a waste of time

[Anonymous No.19102586]

>>19102447
>the sting
It seemed both perceptive, and mean.
Say what you will you're not living a particularly bad life, just like millions of others. Granted there's illness, madness, and whatever else in just about every extended family, and this is unfortunate--other millions who aren't so 'together,' 'happy,' whatever. That you identify with these, however, I just don't buy; attempt to help them, yes (if you can break yourself away from your reading and writing habit long enough to be of any service), but argue as if this part is emblematic of the whole? No, because this simply isn't true.
Perhaps what you truly inherited from those who raised you was not their religion (which you rejected) so much as their fanaticism? If so, you may want to consider rejecting that too.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19102620]

>>19102586
Nice backhanded advice, though wrong. I’m not, nor were they, fanatics. I should, and this has been on my mind recently, reject the work ethic and staidness I inherited from them.

[Anonymous No.19102637]

>>19101161
when you have a picture though, can that picture only function in one dimension? Not to be cheasy but a picture is worth a thousand words in what it contains. Even in a personal memoir, I find it hard to find just focus on a singular narrative and not the multiplicity of experience shown. One that might be extrapolated to a number of gestalt catagories, but it tends to not be a linear progression of one catagory to another, Though I guess a thesis needs a certain amount of prefaced encapsulation.
A merchant isnt just a merchant. He is Hans Dreikvelt, someone who tends to undercut grain, but also is a patron of a glassworks and is secretly catholic in protestant Netherlands.

[Anonymous No.19102645]

>>19102620
Posed as a question
The sobriety and work ethic, abandon? Right, then you'll have an excuse as to why your projects were left unfinished. Initial anon was dead on; you're not a consequential thinker

[Anonymous No.19102660]

>>19102520
bootlickers sure do seem afraid of anarchists accomplishing things for people who dont think anarchists can accomplish anything

anarchism is the what the absolute peak of human intellectualism looks like; ideological, philosophical, moral, economic PERFECTION. this is the end of history, this is what everything amounts to. all roads DO NOT lead to rome, they lead here. the edys and currents of all human civilization carry us back to this. this is the singularity, this is the end state of all human progress. the north star of human evolution. it is inevitable you CANNOT refute this

[Anonymous No.19102669]

>>19102449
Based natsoc poster. You can keep all the best aspects of socialism with national socialism. Nationalism just supplies the positive element that binds a people together. Not to mention protects them against people who aren't going to just sit around and watch a socialist takeover take place, people who have already colonized and taken over every instrument of power.

Most "socialists" these days are so distant from the positive aspects of human life that they even advocate dissolving the family and turning everyone into an atomized hedonist, which is exactly what capitalism already does. Only a fucking retard would subscribe to this nonsense, natural love within the family is an incredibly powerful and natural binding force that keeps people together across generations and even centuries. But the tribe, the nation, the people, is just as natural a bond as the family. You don't have to fetishize it or rely on it exclusively to acknowledge that and integrate it into your war on international bankers.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19102675]

>>19102645
Mmmno. I mean I have been working a job, dutifully earned a tiny wage to live on and I’m sick of it. I want the real work to begin.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19102683]

>>19102645
Mmmno. I mean I have been working a job, dutifully earning a tiny wage to live on and I’ve grown sick of it and want the real work to begin.

[Anonymous No.19102691]

>>19102683
how is your job any different than what "the real work" is, are you one of those retards who thinks theyre going to become the town poet?

[Anonymous No.19102697]

>>19102660
Prophecies cannot be refuted, anon. It's their nature.

[Anonymous No.19102698]

>>19102660
Anarchism was always a fringe movement whose only real world accomplishment were one or two failed revolutions. It should not even considered part of political theory since it has no impact to political reality.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19102700]

>>19102691
Bye

[Anonymous No.19102704]

>>19102683
If so, do what you can then.

[Anonymous No.19102706]

>>19102700
coward

[Anonymous No.19102707]

>another election tourist thread
It's 2021. Beat it.

[Anonymous No.19102708]

>>19102683
I hope the real work implies your version of the Kaczynski mail campaign approaches.

[Anonymous No.19102711]

>>19102683
Second response from your initial interlocutor btw. Have a good evening

[Anonymous No.19102715]

>>19102700
butters how does an anarchist commune survive direct attack or indirect subversion from a superpower tier nation state with virtually unlimited resources and no moral boundaries

[Anonymous No.19102734]

>>19102715
somalia manages

[Anonymous No.19102775]

>>19100918
>So tired of literary discourse becoming centered around 'Oppressors' vs 'Oppressed'
People who view the world through this prism live unhappy lives. There's another way.

[Anonymous No.19102789]

>>19102734
Kek. The ideal beckons: move there.

[Anonymous No.19102810]

>>19101452
Become a Newtype

[Anonymous No.19102840]

>>19101452
Vote wayne lambright

[Anonymous No.19102986]

>>19102008
Butterfly, when are you going to leave this childish place and begin the much needed work of mentoring the next generation of anarchists? You have revealed yourself to be a great intellect on anarchism and with the US soon coming to a close don't you think it's about time you worked on stimulating your younger comrades?

[Anonymous No.19103041]

>>19102840
fuckin hell

[Anonymous No.19103046]

>>19102789
well yes although i'm not an anarchist. nor am i republican and yet i live in a republic

[Anonymous No.19103078]

>>19101388
I want to stay at home all day but the society is forcing me to get a job

[Anonymous No.19103080]

>>19101750
You know what would help you be able to demand some more value? Stop letting mass immigration happen.
One simple step that keeps the worker pool low, and the ability to demand higher wages. One practicable step; easily taken.
But every leftist party seems to think bringing in more disposable workforce for the capitalists is somehow a good thing.

[Anonymous No.19103087]

>>19101113
hahaha reductionism doesn't work no matter how faithful you are
though this is likely bait

[Anonymous No.19103105]

>>19103087
name one historical even that wasn't directly or indirectly tied to class conflict

[Anonymous No.19103208]

>>19103046
No affiliation's best; I'm an autarchist too, and a philodox. In fact, everyone is (they just don't know it).

[Anonymous No.19103622]

>>19102775
Damn, so all I have to do to get a girl is be like him?

[Anonymous No.19103631]

>>19103046
>2021
>he's not a sovereign citizen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

[Anonymous No.19103648]

>>19101113
>reads discredited 19th century historical determinism theories
lel

[Anonymous No.19103737]

>>19102986
bruh

[Anonymous No.19103847]

>>19100918
Leftists are obsessed with power structures and as leftism grows (which it has A LOT) naturally more low IQ individuals enter and reduce the discourse in this way

[Anonymous No.19103859]

>>19100918
>>19100933
thats the basic so deal with it

[Anonymous No.19103909]

>>19100990
is this bait?

[Anonymous No.19103927]

>>19102072
You antagonise ppl who antagonise others who don't hold the same view as them, is what I think that anon meant. IDK also I don't think it makes sense either, what you said isn't ironic to me even though I don't agree completely

[Anonymous No.19103937]

>>19101247
>benefiting explicitly from systemically unjust institutions

A very American perspective. I'm from a European country that was basically a "white" ethnostate until the 1990s. Now that blacks and browns are flooding in, we are also importing this American ideology that tells us that our centuries-old institutions are now in fact unfair. I hope one day you realise that this philosophy is not about trying to clarify the truth, nor is it even about making the world a fairer place. It's actually nothing more than a weapon being wielded relentlessly against European peoples.

[Anonymous No.19103944]

>>19100918
Unfortunately this is going to continue and expand. Literary discourse is being taken over by young white women who are totally absorbed in this ideology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OQlgGS_Ftg

[Anonymous No.19103958]

>>19100954
Anon, is Marxism based? Enlighten me, the media had convinced me that capitalism is better but seeing the state we're in, I suspect Marxism might actually be the answer

[Anonymous No.19104463]

>>19101388
Judaism

[Anonymous No.19104717]

>>19100990
Cringe and baitpilled

[Anonymous No.19104753]

meat grinder criticism

[Anonymous No.19104904]

>>19103937
It's just a somewhat saner summary of what the average student is taught in postcolonial studies, the duds in this thread don't realize it, but this is the dominant academic interpretation >>19101554 - this is, quite literally, the future. No pendulum is swinging back.

[Anonymous No.19104938]

>>19101048
>Carrying half a gram of weed
>Ten years in prison and a felon for life
Also
>Ten years for gram of crack as a poverty-stricken black in brooklyn
>a 'tsk-tsk' and small fine for an eighth of cocaine found in your BMW during a traffic stop
If you wanna make laws reach anywhere near the level of infallibility you seem to desire, at least make em consistent. People are going to question them and be resentful when they aren't applied properly across the entire population.

[Anonymous No.19104999]

>>19101068
For-profit prisons definitely don't hurt their prisoner numbers

[Anonymous No.19105012]

>>19100954
Diversionary BS

[Anonymous No.19105035]

>>19100918
lmfao. why even bother reading any garbage that has its roots in Cultural Marxism/frankfurt school or whatever. it's nothing more than window dressing for nihilism. And of course, nihilism is just a tacit admission that your pineal gland is calcified and you can't perceive the supernatural.

[Anonymous No.19105054]

>>19105035
Can believe subhuman are still using these scapegoats.

Go back

[Anonymous No.19105082]

>>19105054
ok commie tranny, explain the roots of oppressor/oppressed garbage if it's not your beloved cultural Marxists

[Anonymous No.19105100]

>>19105082
um marx

[Anonymous No.19105115]

>>19105100
no dipshit, Marx specifically talked about oppression from an ECONOMIC perspective. the cultural marxists were the ones who extrapolated this to every aspect of human relationships.

[Anonymous No.19105125]

>>19105082
Christianity.

Ecclesiastes 4:1
>Again I looked and saw all the oppression that was taking place under the sun: I saw the tears of the oppressed-- and they have no comforter; power was on the side of their oppressors-- and they have no comforter.
Ecclesiastes 4:2
>And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive.
Ecclesiastes 4:3
>But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun.

[Anonymous No.19105173]

>>19105125
Are you a moron? Ecclesiastes first and foremost belongs to the Jewish tradition. Even then, it's not about tearing down the system of oppression, but rather empathy for the oppressed. Only Marx and his descendants promise utopia via economic/privilege equality

[Anonymous No.19105190]

>>19104904
Yes and eugenics was the dominant in academia for a while too. You have no vision, what is now will not be forever.

[Anonymous No.19105220]

>>19105173
Christianity in it's early ages, was the religion of slaves, fuck ups and women. Romans used to call it a "feminine" religion due to number of Christian women and slaves. Christianity has always been bitter towards the rich and sympathetic to the oppressed. Communism is a Christian heresy.

>"I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:23–26

[Anonymous No.19105283]

>>19105220
In Christianity, Jesus/God defends the oppressed. Christians should also act as the hands and feet of Jesus to carry out His will, but it is ultimately VOLUNTARY for the individual.

Christianity is the opposite of communism-- communism is the INVOLUNTARY equal distribution of power, while Christianity is the VOLUNTARY distribution of power. This distinction makes all the difference, and hence is why there has never been a Christian communist nation. Communism is dependent on godlessness in order to be effective.

[Anonymous No.19105332]

>>19105283
Capitalism is also involuntary theft of the many by few. So if you're talking this worldly matters then Christianity is sympathetic to the oppressed which are poor people. I know it's a religion but still church is a multi billion dollar corporation and take part in capitalism which is secular religion of the oppressors. Socialism view everyone as equal children of God where capitalism is based of cast system and the rich man rule it.

David Bentaly Hart is one of the finest theologian Christianity has to offer today and he is socialist and beautifully defends it under the light of theology.

[Anonymous No.19105361]

>>19105332
no offense but your thoughts are all jumbled up. stop relying on dictionary definitions and address what I'm saying.

Socialism is still INVOLUNTARILY taking money away from people and redistributing it. Where in the Bible does it say that we should have our money taken away from us? It says that we should give away our money, which is a big distinction.

[Anonymous No.19105396]

>>19105361
What you're saying is true FROM a metaphysical point of view. But I can say for sure that 95% of Christians take PART in worldly politics and if there is a chatter about worldly politics then it's clear that Christianity is mostly sympathetic to socialism which take side of the oppressed. By supporting capitalism you're taking side with one percent which Jesus clearly rejected in >>19105220

[Anonymous No.19105420]

>>19100918
Ignore w*men and feminists and your life will drastically improve.

[Anonymous No.19105428]

>>19101247
>whites to either
>>ally with the oppressed
>or
>>oppose the oppressed
Many people in Europe just treat people of different races normally (ala neoliberalism) while also acknowledging their background and differences. They don't get so high minded about it. There is much more division between classes than races in Europe (though whites have more upward mobility and it depends on the country/region/generation - broad strokes).

This whole "white ally" thing is very condescending to non-whites and most Europeans find it distasteful. That is not to say they are uninterested in helping disadvantaged peoples but they would rather do it in a respectful way that does not engender the resentment that often comes along with receiving charity.

There is certainly systemic racism but how you address that problem matters. A lot of the approaches being taken in America right now are very bullheaded and show little empathy or understanding for the oppressed peoples they are supposed to help. I know many who find it offensive but still choose to use it to their advantage and publicly support it because it suits them.

Ironically colonialism lives on in American cultural colonialism, importing these "solutions" to racism via multinational corporations and academic institutions. Trust that these "solutions" will only make things worse. The only good thing to come out of this is some awareness of the problem.

[Anonymous No.19105430]

>>19105396
Christianity is neither capitalist nor socialist. Stop your false dialectics.

[Anonymous No.19105433]

>>19104938
Blacks are always being released on parole and continuing to go out and "hustle"
they should all die and so should you.

[Anonymous No.19105444]

>>19103648
>discredited

[Anonymous No.19105445]

>>19101050
>rattles chain

[Anonymous No.19105453]

>>19105430
You missed the words "sympathetic" and taking PART in worldly matters. If you're taking part in worldly matters then follow Jesus' example by rejecting the rich and taking side with the poor. Or wholely reject politics and worldly matters altogether and contemplate God in solitude.

[Anonymous No.19105464]

>>19105453
The point is that the modern political paradigm is totally separated from Christianity. Everyone today sees through a lens of Enlightenment liberalism which is fundamentally anti-Christian.

[Anonymous No.19105472]

>>19105396
>But I can say for sure that 95% of Christians
>Christianity is mostly sympathetic to socialism
so your argument is literally that other self-professed Christians are socialist so I should be? Fucking retarded lol. I don't give two shits what other people think, that isn't grounds for me to simply agree with them.

Literally all of the apostles except for two left Jesus at the cross. A bunch of disciples left after Jesus said eat my flesh and drink by blood. There is no Biblical basis for doing things just because others do, numbnuts.

And if you interpret >>19105220 as a support of socialism, you are twisting and de-contextualizing scripture in the most disingenous way possible. Jesus literally tells the man to GIVE UP HIS WEALTH. But what he does not do, is FORCIBLY TAKE IT AWAY.

[Anonymous No.19105490]

>>19105464
>Everyone today sees through a lens of Enlightenment liberalism
No. Many people still have Christian values even if they claim to not believe in God, they take time to fade.

[Anonymous No.19105627]

>>19105464
>>19105490
America was founded on Christian principles. So it only makes sense that Americans would believe in Christian values, even if they don't explicitly self-identify as Christians.

What is quickly replacing Christian values is this concept of "just be a decent person", which is the common refrain of the modern left. What that boils down to is a mix of cultural Marxism and simply agreeing with whatever the party line is. In essence, a political party has become their new religion.

[Anonymous No.19105640]

>>19102715
militarization
>>19102734
somalia is kept a failed state by imperialism

[Anonymous No.19105651]

>>19105627
>America was founded on Christian principles.
No, it was not. The founding fathers were Freemasons, deists, and in the case of Benjamin Franklin, explicitly Satanic.
Revolution and liberal democracy are not compatible with Christianity.
I agree with the rest of your post, however.

[Anonymous No.19105753]

>>19105651
they were anti-ecclesiastical ultra-protestants

[Anonymous No.19105817]

>>19105753
Freemasonry is Luciferian.

[Anonymous No.19106449]

>>19100918
is that antifu? what's she up to these days?

[Anonymous No.19106921]

>>19100990
>how do you think the oppressed feel?
No one is oppressed in first world western countries anymore faggot

[Anonymous No.19107748]

>>19106921
Pedophiles arguably are oppressed in first world western countries, although I'm probably a midwit because I think overall that's fine

[Anonymous No.19107955]

>>19107748
this is not how "oppression" works lol

[Anonymous No.19107977]

>>19106921
try being a nazi

[Anonymous No.19107982]

>>19106921
the entire fucking working class is oppressed, my good sir, its called capitalism

[Anonymous No.19108056]

>>19107982
you know, if working for people is oppression, we might just need a bit more of it

[Anonymous No.19108819]

>>19105433
seethe

[Anonymous No.19109018]

>>19100918
who who who

[Anonymous No.19109151]

>>19101388
Only 50% of students at elite universities are white, and 30% are Jews, which leaves 70%+ of the white-non-jewish population with only 20% of seats at their own institutions. Once you add my intersectional disadvantage as a straight male into the equation it's honestly a miracle I'm not in prison.

[Anonymous No.19109159]

>>19101750
Actually, by the Aristotelian definition you literally are a slave. You've just tricked yourself into thinking its not /really/ slavery because 'something something black people deep south abloo hoo hoo'.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19109293]

>>19109018
Auggy, I believe. Never seen this picture before though

[Anonymous No.19109612]

>>19104938
take your meds

[Anonymous No.19109663]

>>19104938
>poverty stricken black in brooklyn
living in subsidized housing, on medicaid and collecting EBT, yet we still need to sell something illegal because $$$

[Anonymous No.19109879]

>>19105472
I have enjoyed your posts and have found them to be quite informative.

I will use them as a spring board to learn more about the evils of communism.

[Anonymous No.19110235]

>>19105472
>Jesus literally tells the man to GIVE UP HIS WEALTH. But what he does not do, is FORCIBLY TAKE IT AWAY.
Communists will go on and on about Communism isn’t about people being poor too. But you shouldn’t be surprised by materialists having shitty interpretations of an ascetic spiritual tradition.

[Anonymous No.19110990]

>>19100990

[Anonymous No.19111144]

>>19102037
Holy based

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19111160]

>>19111144
Why are such scum as you and him hanging out in the library?

[Anonymous No.19111167]

>>19100918
Stop reading brainlet leftist ;3 x

[Anonymous No.19111202]

>>19101113
retard marx never said that

[Anonymous No.19111215]

>>19101388
I get 0 coochie

[Anonymous No.19111306]

>>19104904
>No pendulum is swinging back.
>What was the 2016 election
clearly the perspective won't last; it's already started swinging in the other direction