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I paid an author friend $900 to edit my novel. It took her 16 hours, her debut novel was met with acclaim last year, and has bylines for some notable online publications. Despite all that, I feel like $900 was a bit much, and that was with the “friend” discount. Thoughts?

>> No.19096676

>>19096666


YOU ARE REQUESTING TIME OUT OF SOMEONE ELSE’S LIFE, AND SKILLFUL EFFORT; NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS IS BARELY ENOUGH.

>> No.19096683

>>19096676
*skilful
That'll be ten thousand dollars, Amerimutt.

>> No.19096690

well thats $56/hr which is way too much for some random literature thot who you alone hold in high esteem. realistically, you should've just given editing duties to some rando on fiverr for $20/hr but if you really wanted her opinion than $20/hr is still too much. you probably just want to fuck her so your mind got cloudy and you forgot the value of money

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You're friends with a woman?

>> No.19096702

>>19096676
very anglo post, Kevin

>> No.19096718

>>19096702


?

>> No.19096723

watch how he recoils

>> No.19096734

>>19096718
Hola.
Onions (no al que respondiste) el anon de hace unos meses, que te recomendó traducir tu texto sobre hispanoamérica; cómo has estado, compañero?

A estas horas de la madrugada, recuerdo que has mencionado que "amlo" es (o era) tu político favorito; lo sigue siendo?

I say this given the fact of what's being allowed during his "sexenio".

>> No.19096737

>>19096666
I don't like paying my friends for anything, would much rather pay a stranger and not add that dimension to my relationships.

>> No.19096740

>>19096734


HOLA.

SÍ, LO SIGUE SIENDO; ANDRÉS MANUEL LÓPEZ OBRADOR ES MI POLÍTICO FAVORITO, MÁS POR SU FACETA DE ESTADISTA QUE POR LA IDEOLÓGICA; IDEOLÓGICAMENTE REPRESENTA TODO LO QUE DETESTO.

>> No.19096754

>>19096740
>>19096740
No hay razón para seguir perpetuando la democracia cuando la basta mayoría de la gente es ignorante en cuanto a la política.

Se me hacía extraño que lo apoyaras — e.g.: por su "anticolonialismo", et cetera.

Por cierto, gracias por la recomendación de hace unos meses de la página "unión vía nobleza".

>> No.19096763

>>19096666
Checked. There are people I would pay $900 for 16 hours' work, certainly, but I doubt this random friend of yours is worth that. Depends what "editing" you got. If she made profound suggestions which will turn it from something that won't get published to something that will, then $900 was money well spent, I guess.

I sometimes see anons asking people to read their work here on /lit/, but they never offer even small payment. Is that against the 4chan rules?

>> No.19096770

>>19096676
This.

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>>19096754
>No hay razón para seguir perpetuando la democracia cuando la basta mayoría de la gente es ignorante en cuanto a la política.

LA DEMOCRACIA ES NOCIVA EN SÍ MISMA, IRRESPECTIVAMENTE DE LA VULGAR IGNORANCIA.


>Se me hacía extraño que lo apoyaras — e.g.: por su "anticolonialismo", et cetera.

SU ANTIHISPANOCATOLICISMO ES EL ELEMENTO FATAL; SU ARTE POLÍTICA ES LO QUE ME GUSTA, Y LO QUE LE RESPETO.


>Por cierto, gracias por la recomendación de hace unos meses de la página "unión vía nobleza".

LO HABÍA OLVIDADO; EL SITIO HA ESTADO EN SUSPENSO POR MESES, YA QUE EL ADMINISTRADOR ESTÁ REEDITANDO TODOS LOS ARTÍCULOS, Y NINGUNO HA ESTADO DISPONIBLE; IGNORO SI ALCANZASTE A LEER ALGUNO.

>> No.19096819

>>19096787
>IGNORO SI ALCANZASTE A LEER ALGUNO.
Afortunadamente sí pude; al día siguiente utilicé la "Wayback Machine"; encontré diversos "pdfs", los cuales aún continúo leyendo.

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>>19096740
>ANDRÉS MANUEL LÓPEZ OBRADOR ES MI POLÍTICO FAVORITO
Particularmente basado

>> No.19096826

>>19096676
vafammocca cumge'
>>19096734
>Onions (no al que respondiste) el anon
top kek

>> No.19096833

>>19096787
que paso con tu otro sitio relacionado con politica mexicana, lo cancelastes?

>> No.19096837

>>19096666
Editing is not an easy job that anyone can do. It takes effort, talent and years of experience to be able to take semoene's shitty text and turn it into something readable. This, of course, assuming that she can actually write.

>> No.19096960

>>19096666
That's about $56/hour. That's expensive, but not absurdly so. However, I'm curious as to how much actual editing she could do in 16 hours. Did she suggest real revisions, or did she just proofread?

>> No.19096966

>>19096690
This 100%

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>>19096666
>being friends with women
I would edit a book of my friend for free, just because we are friends. To him it's important, to me it's practice and doing something good for my buddy.

>> No.19097390

>>19096763
Yes it is against 4chan rules and rules of basic humanity. You sound like a redditor, please leave and kys

>> No.19097737

>>19096666
sounds like a dubious friend if they won't do it for free

>> No.19097827

>>19096734
>Onions
lmao

>> No.19097847

>>19096666
nice quads
Also I would do it for you for free
two zero two eight one three zero three zero eight

>> No.19097858

lmao no that's not too much even here in eastern europe
thing is, if she edited it well, you'll get those fucking 900$ anyway
if not, it's only fucking 900$ - that or a rise to brilliance

>> No.19097866

>>19096690
>you probably just want to fuck her so your mind got cloudy and you forgot the value of money
Based sereneposter
If she has talent and it was a one-time payment, I wouldn't dwell on it, OP. It was a good investment, or a bet, anyway. You'll know how the bet will play out.

>> No.19097935

>>19096666
>friend
>would have took then a weekend
>they wouldn't do it for free just to help you have a better chance at success
your standards for friendship are far too low, I have no idea about being a writer because all I've done is read but I feel confident in saying you should try to develop stronger more meaningful relationships with others - good luck with the book anon sorry I couldn't provide anything to your question

>> No.19098175

>>19096666
Super Satan checked

>> No.19098231

>>19096666
That's actually cheap for 16h. I would make a bit more writing C++ software.

>> No.19098274

>>19096676
>$900 for 16 hours of work.

I don't even get paid that as a skilled worker. Fuck off.

>> No.19098278

>>19096666
that dog is high af lmaooooo

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>>19098274
You absolutely do. I've worked at a locksmith company as a dispatcher and they can easily bring in like 300 bucks for less than an hour of work. The standard price is 120-150 for like 10 minutes of unlocking a car. And since I know you are thinking it, you are absolutely right. The industry is dominated by Israeli jews.

>> No.19098699

>>19096666
>Thoughts?
Did she do a good job, a mediocre job, or a lousy job? If she did a good job - and most particularly if the book is now publishable - her fee was reasonable.

>> No.19098986

>>19096690
>>19096666
lmao, fucking this. OP, just be honest: is she hot? Do you or did you want to fuck her? There's almost no justification to pay a woman that much money unless it's for sex, I don't care if she's Virginia Woolf lmao.

>> No.19099018

I'll do the second edit for 800.

>> No.19099031

>>19099018
I'll do it for 390.
Better than anyone here.
I have a reputation, you see.

>> No.19099143

>>19098352
>some niche service call gets absurd money
No shit. Editing is not a niche service skill. Nor is it nearly as urgent as "I can't get into my house/car/business." It is neither a rare knowledge nor a priority skillset. Comparing it to locksmithing or valve technics or welding is like comparing apples and oranges. But saying its worth upwards of $60/hr is fucking dumb.

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>>19096666
You should mug her and kill her.

>> No.19100204

>>19096763
You sound like the kind of eternally american faggot to ask dad for money and launch a start up that monetizes another absolutely fucking basic aspect of social life.
>you see, dad, these people are interested in literature, specifically, writing literature
>now, daddy, imagine, they read for free
>can you believe it dad?

>> No.19100228

>>19097858
>eastern europe
LARP. That's more than the average monthly wage here in Hungary and we're less poor than e.g. the Romanians next door. Denim-jacket enthusiast lolbertarian morons just daring to assume that 16 hours of work deserves the monthly average income are the reason why eastern-europe is poor. Now go suck your employer's cock.

>> No.19100319

>>19096666
900$ for 16 hours of work seems too much, 56$ per hour is incredibly high for this work, not unheard of, but I'd only pay a really good professional editor that much. Just 16 hours seems rushed anyway.

Plus, it's a bit weird for a friend to ask for that much. For a close friend I would do it for free in my free time, even if it took a while .

>> No.19100519

>>19096666
Partially it depends on how connected you are to the literary world. Do you have an in to getting published, or are you a rando with no connections? If the former, then it probably can be written off as a business expense. If the latter, then you have to factor in this employees opportunity cost. Assuming 56.25 is her standard hourly rate, and she works 2000 hours a year, then she is worth about 112,000 a year from writing. If this person does make that amount, then that's a fair cost of doing business, but desu I think you could've talked her down to 600. If you don't know if it's a good deal it's safe to assume you've been screwed

>> No.19101235

>>19096690
Going rate for basic line editing is ~$100/hour.

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>>19096666
She didn't edit it, she proofread it... maybe--if you can't see your own grammatical and typographic errors you won't see the ones she missed. A real 'editor' shapes the text in a collaborative effort over several drafts. In short, she jacked you up but you deserve it. Learn to write if you want to be a writer. You think Mozart needed someone to tell him he was playing in the proper key?

>> No.19101509

All I know is that she now thinks she's a rising star.

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She will be the only one to make money from your novel. lol.

>> No.19101556

>>19101235
nobody on /lit/ would know that, especially nobody as stupid as you

>> No.19101567

>>19101235
In your dreams.

>> No.19101611

Lmaoo she probably just put it through grammarly and called it “her edits.” You got scammed

>> No.19101623

>>19101611
>Lmaoo
zoomer faggot

>> No.19101627

>>19096971
This. Receiving money from a friend in exchange for a service feels too transactional for me to be comfortable with it. If the person were truly my friend I'd be more than happy to simply do them the favor.