/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19086013]

Any books that celebrate the burgerpunk aesthetic and atmosphere?

[Anonymous No.19086085]

>>19086013
No, but I can offer the soundtrack

https://youtu.be/FWAbyxLIGMI

[Anonymous No.19086094]

>>19086013
Any Modernist Americana like White Fragility by Robin DeAngelo is essentially burgerpunk

[Anonymous No.19086118]

ready player one 2

[Anonymous No.19086162]

>>19086094
I'm not looking for books about the values systems of American capitalism in 2021. I'm looking for authors who would look at the burgerpunk image and celebrate its cultural and aesthetic virtues. Books about teenagers who make priceless memories by going to the mall every day and such.

[Anonymous No.19086465]

>>19086085
Yeah basically this but in book form.

[Anonymous No.19086485]

>>19086094
>americana
Thank god Anglxs are being replaced

[Anonymous No.19086487]

>>19086162
BEE's Less than Zero and Glamorama

[Anonymous No.19086549]

>>19086487
These look like interesting reads, but they seem more like satire and critique. I'm more after pastiche.

[Anonymous No.19086568]

>>19086013
Man I fucking love this picture.
Laugh at it all you want. This picture represents my childhood and I will always love it.

[Anonymous No.19086588]

>>19086013
Man I fucking hate this picture.
Laugh at it all you want. This picture represents my childhood and I will always hate it.

[Anonymous No.19086590]

>>19086568
People don't realize how comfy it really is. Put yourself in the shoes of a family that just came from a fun day at the mall, now pulling into the parking lot of that Pizza Hut for a delicious dinner, all the while surrounded by people doing the same. I want literature about this sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.19086927]

>>19086487
First thing I thought about, for some reason.
Don't even really remember why; it's been years since I read it.

[Anonymous No.19086987]

White man in heap big trouble

[Anonymous No.19087098]

“America ... has created a 'civilization' that represents an exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition. It has introduced the religion of praxis and productivity; it has put the quest for profit, great industrial production, and mechanical, visible, and quantitative achievements over any other interest. It has generated a soulless greatness of a purely technological and collective nature, lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality. America has [built a society where] man becomes a mere instrument of production and material productivity within a conformist social conglomerate”

[Anonymous No.19087117]

>>19087098

Fuck America. The natives will take revenge from beyond the grave.

[Anonymous No.19087441]

>>19086013
I really don't understand what the fuck "burger punk" is. This is a gas stop area for cross country travel. Yes, roads should be outside cities (and Americans are now understanding this and building more actual Streets).
Hopefully we switch to more pedestrian travel faster.

[Anonymous No.19087453]

>>19087441
It's just undergrads crying about growing up in suburbs, instead of le epic authentic lived experience street cred setting.

[Anonymous No.19087603]

>>19086590
Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture

[Anonymous No.19087608]

[Anonymous No.19087617]

>>19087608
used to be on the Wikipedia page for visual pollution, not sure why it got taken off

[Anonymous No.19087672]

>>19086485
have you never heard that word before?

[Anonymous No.19087846]

>>19087603
Looks promising - thanks

[Anonymous No.19088209]

>>19086588
>>19086590

I don't think you guys realize that this is the epitome of admitting that America really is a culturally bankrupt country. Eurofags who shit on us are right

[Anonymous No.19088235]

>>19087608
Why aren’t foreigners more upset about the American dilution of their culture? A couple of Syrians and Kenyans walking around their cities constitutes an international crisis that strains long-standing alliances. Meanwhile their children are listening to American music while eating at an American McDonalds while playing with toys promoting an American movie.

[Anonymous No.19088630]

>>19086013
>>19083173

[Anonymous No.19088756]

>>19086013
There's already a whole chart for this

[Anonymous No.19088942]

>>19088756
Almost all of these are the sorts of books that are hostile to the burgerpunk aesthetic and ethos, except maybe the Trump book. I'm specifically looking for literature that would reject the premise that burgerpunk is soulless and materialistic and instead celebrate its comfiness and virtue.

[Anonymous No.19089022]

>>19087608
NO REFUNDS

[Anonymous No.19089075]

OH MY GOODNESS!!!!! NOT A REGULAR REST AREA IN PENNSYLVANIA… IM— IM… IM COMPLAININNNNNNNNNGGGG

[Anonymous No.19089100]

You’re driving down the highway and see this, do you:
>cry and shit yourself and piss yourself and tweet and shmeet and post and blog and ask for burgerpunk (a genre you made up and doesn’t exist)
>keep driving

[Anonymous No.19089127]

>>19089075
>>19089100
Maybe I'm not being clear. This thread isn't meant to be some ironic or tongue-in-cheek insult. The term "burgerpunk" is frequently used here to refer to a specific aesthetic closely associated with the iconography of late-20th-and-early-21st-century American capitalism. I'm aware it's not a proper "genre," but the aesthetic is nonetheless something I like, and I'm wondering if there are any books that celebrate, rather than denigrate, it.

[Anonymous No.19089276]

Stanley Elkin - The Franchiser
Very good, very funny

[Anonymous No.19089333]

>>19086013
Bret Easton Ellis books.
And man, that's some fucking aesthetic right there, I don't have many books to recommend because I don't read things around that area but I'll post some aesthetics. Some prime late-century American capitalism vibes.
Look at this thing, it's great.

[Anonymous No.19089334]

>>19089333
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.19089365]

>>19089127
The hollow sacrilege of a forlorn chucky cheese probably makes you horny too. The simple idea of an old ninja turtles cabinet behind the bumble bee ball catching game puts tears in your eyes of a time before you realized it was all a prison. Before the idea of pouring liquid stone into any shape you want made you blindingly angry. The tokens you forgot to use, forever in the top drawer with all the other lost Knick knacks you never look at. What kind of sick monster feeds of nostalgia like a cancer patient on morphine? Was it because you didn’t see the young twenty something parents who forgot to wear a condom getting drunk in the back booths? Or the teenagers who had to deal with poopy children all day, smoking weed to get by? The aging mothers popping Xanax and refusing to eat mismatched pizza slices? The most horrifying animatronics, so strange and other worldly they have become a symbol of horror all their own? What part of your childhood do you hold onto? Because I think it’s the ignorance of the world. I think you want to unlearn all the true horrors that lie behind what the bench statute of Ronald means, as opposed to the statute itself. You see Chilis as a fun night with friends as a freshman in highschool, not the wallowing scream of culture dying from too many microwave 30$ steaks or watered down gin and tonics. No, you forget how narrow your vision was and you wish to be coddled. You don’t like BurgerPunk. You don’t want to enjoy Burgerpunk. You want to starve yourself of perception and crawl back into your mothers womb, at least back there you could imagine what Nintendo graphics represented, instead of seeing the destruction of the Japanese economy in the early nineties. Eating gogurt and not seeing Reagan’s deregulation of child advertising. I fucking despise the world, but I also have no respect for you. You don’t deserve this sick perversion. You want the Nashville sound when Burgerpunk is nothing but classic outlaw county.

[Anonymous No.19089398]

>>19089365
Bro I think you're thinking a little too hard about this, it's just a comfy aesthetic I like.

[Anonymous No.19089415]

>>19086590
>delicious dinner
>Pizza Hut

Pick one

[Anonymous No.19089430]

>>19089398
You are the problem. I’d tell you to hang yourself, but I doubt suburban support beam construction could support your weight. I’d tell you to jump off a building, but the most that will happen at one story is break a leg. I’d tell you to shoot yourself, but all the ammo at the academy is sold out because Fox News ran another story about Mexicans becoming impervious to low caliber rounds. I’d tell you to drown yourself, but we are at water restriction level three. I’d tell you to swallow pills, but we just ended the class action against big opioid pharma. I’d say jump in front of a bus but public transportation funding has been severely cut. Get addicted to crack and get shot by a cop, but you aren’t black. Fuck you. This place sucks. Don’t glorify it.

[Anonymous No.19089448]

>>19089430
Once again you sound like you're spending too much time inside your own head. I also like the aesthetics of medieval Europe, but that doesn't mean I think it was a super nice place to live. (Even though, objectively speaking, those born into Burgerpunk America basically won the lottery in terms of living conditions and safety.)

[Anonymous No.19089464]

>>19089448
The entire genre of fantasy is about retconing the bad parts of medieval Europe. If you want happy burgerpunk go read golden age science fiction or trashy modern YA novels based on hallmark romance movies and stop calling it BurgerPunk. Nothing you will find is going to unironically talk about how much better it is to die of heart disease or pancreatic cancer than to get stabbed to death by a mongol.

[Anonymous No.19089481]

>>19089464
>go read golden age science fiction or trashy modern YA novels based on hallmark romance movies
These don't generally satisfy what I'm looking for though. My ideal "burgerpunk literature" would be something that takes place almost entirely in a place like the burgerpunk image, where the main point of the book is how cool and good the setting is.

[Anonymous No.19089526]

>>19089481
The closest thing I got for you is white noise. I still hate you.

[Anonymous No.19090452]

>>19087603
I've been staring at both pictures for almost 10 minutes trying to figure out if it's the same place and I still cant tell.

[Anonymous No.19090569]

>>19090452
It is, the bottom is just a farther perspective.

t. Been through Breezewood often.

[Anonymous No.19090604]

anarchists cookbook?

[Anonymous No.19090651]

>>19089365
Have sex incel

[Anonymous No.19090660]

>>19090651
I think you're jealous of anon's literary prowess

[Anonymous No.19090929]

>>19086013
just a few minutes from that location is a lengthy section of abandoned turnpike that makes for a really nice walk.

[Anonymous No.19090963]

>>19090452
It is, but I think the meme image has a bunch of extra shit added onto it. I don't think that huge Exxon sign in the center is there in real life for example.

[Anonymous No.19091118]

>>19086013
We have this same thread every day, kys

[Anonymous No.19091164]

[Anonymous No.19091181]

>>19089100
I'd probably stop and load up on some chicken wings and a beverage and consume.

[Anonymous No.19091223]

>>19089100
Throw on some Faust and enjoy the kino slow burn desolate natural + urban aesthetic

[Anonymous No.19091312]

Fuck america but mcdonalds is always comfy

[Anonymous No.19091424]

I want books about this too, i am a weeb for america. This was posted from my lonely castle in europe

[Anonymous No.19091529]

>>19089365
Neurotypicals will laugh but anon is spot on. Nostalgia is a disease that must be eradicated. You have to move forward.

[Anonymous No.19091557]

>>19088942
Simultaneous self-aggrandizement and depreciation is peak burger punk

[Anonymous No.19091559]

>>19086013
Maybe kind of Great gatsby if you look at it a certain way. doesnt end up hopeful though, but does talk to the capacity and wonder of an american spirit trying to reach an ideal and the self immolation beauty in that.
>>19087098
Disagree. See the above. there is something beatyful in the american spirit within all the muck and grim (in fact a lot of that muck is self caused and an effort to jo to the tragedy). This assessment is bottom tier surfacelevelness.

[Anonymous No.19091565]

>>19089365
Incredibly fucking based and true

[Anonymous No.19091581]

>>19091164
>MOONMAN MOONMAN CANT YOU SEE

[Anonymous No.19091599]

It's kind of crazy how burgerpunk, as a literary genre or aesthetic movement, really symbolizes mainstream American consumer culture. In that neither one has any real substance to it.

[Anonymous No.19091632]

>>19086013
I love that no matter how many years pass, 99% of retards that use Burtynsky's "Oil" are completely unaware of its context, how it was shot, and why it was shot. It's arguably one of the finest pieces of propaganda ever produced on account of its striking inability to make those question why that photo was taken in the first place.

>Getting such a striking image of the place took a lot more work than most meme-sharers might realize. Burtynsky told me he spent three days in town scouting vantage points and setting up the shot. He often shoots from helicopters, but here he relied on an earthbound rig.

>“I’d rented a four-wheel drive and a scissor lift that had the ability to take me up 80 feet,” he recalled. “I was just driving around everywhere with it, hiking it up and looking for the point of view. I kept trying and trying, and no, no, no. Eventually, near the end of the second day, I found this motel slightly up on a hill. And in the parking lot of the motel, if I hiked [the lift] up and used a slightly longer lens, which adds to the compression, I was able to create the shot."

It's a heavily distorted view of a glorified truck stop literally a handful of miles away from Washington D.C, one of the busiest cities on the planet. No fucking shit you need that much in a short space. Because I'm willing to bet that for all your proselytizing, you don't grow any of your own food or drink and rely entirely on interstate-crawling trucks in between bouts of busting your balls on your bike saddle. Without them, you would die from malnourishment in very short order.

>muh trains
You still need a means to get goods from the train to your shop/house.
Trucks can exist fine without trains, not the other way around.

>muh boxcars
you can blame the bus operators for that one - look up what the "General Motors streetcar conspiracy" was ACTUALLY about instead of being a clueless /n/igger constantly blaming auto enthusiasts for your woes.

[Anonymous No.19091693]

>>19091632
holy fucking cope
way to confuse the map with the territory.
classic burgerpunk response

[Anonymous No.19092626]

>>19086162
tao lin’s shoplifting from american apparel

[Anonymous No.19092651]

>>19087098
So america achieved communism ?

[Anonymous No.19092667]

>>19086094
Hot, yet incredible take

[Anonymous No.19092688]

>>19091632
All artistic photos you see are heavily edited and distorted by the photographer, is this supposed to be surprising to anyone? Art itself is the use of the physical world in order to communicate non-physical ideas or emotions.

[Anonymous No.19093328]

>burgerpunk
kek

[Anonymous No.19093369]

>>19086013
>burgerpunk
kek

[N E M O . !!GgBWHLRiayD No.19093735]

>>19086013
There is nothing to "celebrate".

The raid on hypermodernism entails the parade of metamodernism.

[Anonymous No.19093756]

blackpeople.epub

[Anonymous No.19093795]

I can send you my book if you want

[Anonymous No.19093823]

>>19093735
>hypermodernism
>metamodernism
I'm getting real tired of all this fucking jargon

[Anonymous No.19093826]

>>19091118
No we don't. When people ask about burgerpunk here, they ask for literature to "understand" the phenomenon, or for literature that deconstructs or critiques it. I want literature that romanticizes it.

[Anonymous No.19093846]

>>19091632
>literally a handful of miles away from Washington D.C.
Breezewood is in the middle of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.19093852]

>>19093735
What?

[Anonymous No.19093881]

This book encapsulates the joy and possibilities of modern America. The idea that if you just have energy and enthusiasm you can make things happen. The thing you make happen might be 1000 horrible rap songs, but you did it.
It's free online if anyone is interested in a book that was written on a flip phone and texted to the publishing agent. Also it's based, obviously.

[N E M O . !!GgBWHLRiayD No.19093885]

>>19093823
Actually, a better version would be:

The raid on globalism entails the parade of imperium.

[Anonymous No.19093901]

>>19087608
for me, it's this pic.

[Anonymous No.19093944]

>>19093901
>eating a pizza dinner AND viewing a wonder of the ancient world at the same time
Sounds comfy and cool as fuck desu.

[Anonymous No.19093949]

>>19093944
If I were to visit I would definitely want to sit there

[Anonymous No.19094123]

>>19086013
Most of Don DeLillo's oeuvre, but I wouldn't exactly call it celebratory.

[Anonymous No.19094143]

>>19086013
Unironically Pynchon and the California books.
I imagine most contemporary Americans have that 24/7 tv static snow playing in their heads with glimpses of shit like Simpsons and McDonalds commercials flashing here and there.

[Anonymous No.19094483]

>>19089100
I tell myself I don't need gas and then stress about needing gas

[Anonymous No.19094548]

>>19088209
The hell with them. Suburbia and shopping malls are peak comfy. And things are getting a bit too hectic, semi-rural environs are usually only a few minutes away.

[Anonymous No.19094576]

>>19089448
>(Even though, objectively speaking, those born into Burgerpunk America basically won the lottery in terms of living conditions and safety.)

You're right. We *did* win the lottery. And now it's all being torn away by our newly superpowerful overlords. Sic transit gloria burgerpunk.

[Anonymous No.19094606]

>>19089481
The Peanuts strip celebrates the joys of a suburban childhood, albeit sans strip malls and other archetypically burgerpunk impedimenta.

[Anonymous No.19095742]

>>19094606
Stuff with this vibe is actually pretty close to what I'm looking for, although it would still be nice to pair this kind of wholesomeness with romanticization of corporate iconography, chain restaurants, and gas stations.

[Anonymous No.19096004]

>>19086013
Any books where you see someone from an entirely new perspective?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19096084]

>>19089100
Pull over for a Quizno’s sub

[Anonymous No.19096279]

lol u guys remember when /lit/ collectively wrote a burgerpunk book

[Anonymous No.19097524]

>>19096279
Yes. I was there. It was awesome.

[Anonymous No.19097616]

>>19091632
Supply lines and modern agriculture existed before the overhaul of all cities to accommodate the car. Japan has good urbanism and is one of the most technically advanced countries today. Admit you are a fat amerishart who recoils at needing to walk or cycle in a much more properly scaled city. Car cities are oppressive to anyone who actually enjoys exercise.

[Anonymous No.19097734]

Snow crash

[Anonymous No.19097833]

>>19096279
where can I read this?

[Anonymous No.19097850]

>>19086162
>would look at the burgerpunk image and celebrate its cultural and aesthetic virtues
Atlas Shrugged

[Anonymous No.19097937]

>>19097850
Don't know why I didn't think of this, thanks

[Anonymous No.19098124]

Need to find some earlier American conspiracy books. This is essential burgerpunk and you won't find their type anywhere else on the world.

[Anonymous No.19098144]

>>19086013
>>19087603
>>19089100
i love these places. they're a good break from the sheer horror of riding down a highway, and you can have a smoke in the parking lots.

[Anonymous No.19098173]

>>19086013
i literally did a double-take because i thought this was a town near me

then i realized the whole point of burgerpunk as a concept is that of course it does

[Anonymous No.19098248]

>>19089365
the reason why i like this post is because not only is it true, it's written without paragraphs to filter the people who would be (and should be) filtered by it

[Anonymous No.19098251]

Neo-burgerpunk arrives from the future

[Anonymous No.19098292]

>>19098251
There needs to be an American Iconoclasm.

[Anonymous No.19098305]

>>19098173
Everywhere feels the same and none of it feels like home

[Anonymous No.19098344]

DFW's books like the pale king or oblivion maybe

[Anonymous No.19098361]

>>19098292
Kek

[Anonymous No.19098392]

>>19098361
Walmart wagies gotta sing this motivational Walmart anthem everyday

https://youtu.be/jMReMMqqZpU

[Anonymous No.19098427]

>>19086590
>People don't realize how comfy it really is

Soulless you mean. Pol complains about the 'insect' mentality of Asians but Americans are all the same - just fatter insects but pursuing even more vapid and selfish pursuits.

My 600lb life documentary is the epitome of burgerpunk.

[Anonymous No.19098497]

I somewhat frequently drive through Breezewood. Ask me anything about my burgerpunk existence

[Anonymous No.19098677]

>>19098427
No, it's comfy.
>>19098497
What's the best place to grab a quick, but filling, lunch before you get back on the road?