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Has anyone actually read him?

>> No.19077846

>>19077824
literally no one has

>> No.19077872

>>19077846
>everything is language
>God spoke and adam understood
>for God was the word

This seems exceptionally based

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>>19077824
>To me, every book is a bible
The magus of the North is severely underated and said everything Niechzche was going to say but better.
Albeit Hamann had little knowledge of Persia as far as I know.

>> No.19078954

>>19077872
>>19078947
Quick rundown on his thought?

>> No.19079042

>In Hamann's own terms Kant was a "Platonist" about reason, believing it disembodied, and Hamann an "Aristotelian" who believed it was embodied. Hamann was greatly influenced by Hume. This is most evident in Hamann's conviction that faith and belief, rather than knowledge, determine human actions. Also, Hamann asserted that the efficacy of a concept arises from the habits it reflects rather than any inherent quality it possesses.

Exceptionally based.

>> No.19079045

>>19079042
>>19077872
Ok, I'm convinced.

>> No.19079061

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hamann/

>Hamann's writings are all short; he was not given to extensive treatises. They are also usually motivated by something very specific: someone else's publication, or particular circumstances and events. When responding to these, he presupposes considerable knowledge on the part of the reader; typically his responses to the work of others involves adoption of their terminology and style, blending into mimicry and parody as a rhetorical and argumentative device. Moreover, woven into these writings is an extraordinary breadth and quantity of citations and allusions; and by no means are these all clear and obvious. Thus, when he chooses, his essays are a tapestry of multicolored threads of the ideas, language, and imagery of thinkers, be they ancient, biblical, or contemporary.

>> No.19079115

>>19077824
Yeah, I have the Cambridge "Writings on Philosophy and Language" publication. He's a bit difficult to follow, by way of his gratuitous epigraphing, ironies and allusive style, but still worthwhile

>> No.19079488

Bump for Hamann.

>> No.19079528

Hamannbros, any essential pre reading before getting into his works?

>> No.19079675

>>19079528
After enlightenment is the essential work to read in English but not having German locks most material away from your reach anyways.

>> No.19079715

>>19077824
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cetMb3JIcbg

>> No.19079871

>>19077872
i hear therefore I am

>> No.19080415

>>19079871
Based

>> No.19080878 [DELETED] 

>>19078947
>Albeit Hamann had little knowledge of Persia as far as I know.
that is why he self-inserted himself right into the Bible. the dude achieved the final pill

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>>19078947
>Albeit Hamann had little knowledge of Persia as far as I know.
that is why he self-inserted himself right into the Bible: 'After Haman was appointed the principal minister of the king Ahasuerus, all of the king's servants were required to bow down to Haman, but Mordechai refused to.'

>> No.19081358

>>19079675
How many years German do I need to be able to read Hamann?

>> No.19081403

>reviews of forgotten books
>didn't write to be understood
>only motivation to read him, is that some famous ppl enjoyed the reviews when they came out
not a good look desu

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>>19079871
No it's simply that everything is intelligable as symbol therefore everything is language and thus the word of God.

Thinking and speaking and witnessing and acting are different octaves of the same grand function of articulating the intelligable symbolism of life, thus poets are the highest manifestation of man.

This based autist literally discovered the mercurial logos process by means of his own autism. Absolutely incredible if you aks me.

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>>19079061
So this nigga was basically just publishing effortposts?

>> No.19081866

>>19081830
Not everyone is lazy like you

>> No.19081921

>>19081830
Yeah but meta

>> No.19082264

>>19079715
That's a good one. I like this one too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PnwN7VZylMc

>> No.19082622

>>19079528
German for reading by Sandberg. Please don't be a pseud and attempt to read him in English, he's scarcely translated.

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>>19082622
What about pic related? Cambridge editions are usually decently reliable.

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>>19082658
Cambridge is reliable, but translation isn't going to truly encapsulate his ironies, sarcasm and overall stylistic prose. Kant, for example, is pretty easy to read in German given you've drilled grammar and at least have a couple thousand words under your belt. I was reading Kant's prolegomena after 5 months of drilling vocab on Anki (this was whilst I read Sandberg's textbook). I implore you to learn German, but if you can't, try and find a pdf of this book. It contains English translations of Socratic Memorabilia, Aesthetica in Nuce, a selection of essays on language, Essay of a Sibyl on Marriage and Metacritique of the Purism of Reason. I've seen isolated English copies of Socratic Memorabilia, but never of the rest (besides the language essays)

You won't be able to purchase an actual copy btw, it's fucking $450.

>> No.19082935

>>19082839
I intend to read German (I read the first chapters of Sandberg's book a while ago with no pretension at all, without taking notes and forcing to memorize vocabulary and I can see that at least the very basics is still alive whenever I read something in German), but I'm learning Italian and intend to master it in order to read really old shit like Cavalcanti, Guinizelli, da Lentini, so I have a lot of work here. But despite my deep interest in Hamann, I don't plan to read his works for now as well, I think I could set at the right time my studies on German Idealism, Romanticism with him and the German language.
Finally, thanks for the recommendation, this seems really good.