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[Anonymous No.19075102]

Hello /lit/ I'm here from /co/ and /adv/
You've come highly recommended
I've found something interesting and my queries lead me here.
It's a seemingly simple symbol substitution alphabet, in the style of faux ancient Cunieform.
Myself and some who have tried permutations have concluded, if it is a paragraph it is likely encoded.
How do we decode and decipher an alphabet simultaneously?
And it's probably backwards, right to left...

[Anonymous No.19075119]

>>19075102
It's from this prop version of a sacrifice table in MARVEL's The Avengers
The character is Ashur in real world mythology but there are subtle differences

[Anonymous No.19075126]

>>19075102
Why are some scriptures marked with red? Are they disputed?

[Anonymous No.19075145]

Cuneiform is an indented 3D carved language, and that makes shadows and glare, so I color inverted before switching to grayscale to give the characters a raised appearance so that we may better intuit their shapes/meanings
Here is the movie scene and original color.

[Anonymous No.19075155]

>>19075126
>Why are some scriptures marked with red? Are they disputed?
Yes! Correct. Thanks for reminding me
Red means uncertainty. Black on top of red means I figured it out after.
Dots also mean uncertainty

[Anonymous No.19075182]

Some characters overlap. These could be typos, surface damage or letter combinations etc

Triangle alone makes 8 characters/letters due to orientation in 8 axis U, D, L, R, UR, UL, DR and DL

[Anonymous No.19075198]

>>19075182
Maybe SH or ER or something to that effect and also maybe BACKWARDS Right to Left.

Word spacing can be almost anywhere so determining word end and start is tricky

[Anonymous No.19075237]

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[Anonymous No.19075241]

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[Anonymous No.19075252]

If this thread archives and you still want to solve this, links are posted here: https://the-sqoou.tumblr.com/post/661550931120472064/can-you-decipher-the-riddle-of-the-golden-table

[Anonymous No.19075259]

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[Anonymous No.19075264]

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[Anonymous No.19075278]

An early thread on the subject:
https://boards.4channel.org/co/thread/125813099#top

[Anonymous No.19075342]

A fellow researcher believes the altered tail to be significant and maybe a key number
Also note the table is referred to as Bilchsteim and may be a related key word

[Anonymous No.19075350]

Hey just translated it using some advanced software bros
it says "OP is a fag also holocaust don't real"

[Anonymous No.19075487]

>>19075350
>OP is a fag
Achievement unlocked...

[Anonymous No.19075607]

It says: The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. Ding A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. Ding Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, ding

[Anonymous No.19075621]

>>19075102
...Why would I bother deciphering random texts from a damn Marvel movie about superheroes?

[Anonymous No.19076057]

>>19075621
It's a continuation of Old Norse Mythology mixed with Assyrian lore in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
It doesn't matter what word we put on the Aesir these days. This is historic

[Anonymous No.19076171]

It's the Poetic Edda, Snorri Sturluson's Edda, Richard Wagner (Vaugner), Abbey Farwell Brown etc

[Anonymous No.19076178]

>>19076057
It's capeshit. Fuck off and sage.

[Anonymous No.19076368]

>>19075342
The real Ashur looks like this

[Anonymous No.19076433]

Why suppose it has any meaning and isn't just gibberish made up by the prop-maker to look like Sumerian cuneiform for a shot that lasts, like, 10 seconds?

[Anonymous No.19076442]

>>19075102
This board is notoriously infested with midwits endlessly arguing about religion, politics and philosophy while never reading past the school curriculum. You are more likely to find a competent cryptographer on /sci/ than any person who knows what they are talking about on /lit/. /x/ might also be interested in this due to subject nature, but that place is even worse than /lit/.

[Anonymous No.19076531]

>>19076433
>Why suppose it has any meaning
They've been establishing alphabets for a while. Fans have figured out the Skrull alphabet and it's time for the Eternals. Gilgamesh is an Eternal and Thor's description of a Bilchsteim matches that of Enkidu real world mythology, while also being associated with the golden table itself in the script.
You see? It's all connected. I'm not crazy...
>10 seconds?
Fewer. It's like three frames per shot over three shots.

[Anonymous No.19076595]

>>19075102
These are random assignments and not indicative of actual character associations
Maybe random can brute force into something that can be key word or number decoded
Left to Right
1. EAfxCG CRxfCB CDX
2. M YTcvv OLVVD WJ
3. WBooEC OOMDTTO HOE JC
4. XC M UGPCCQGX M UCX
5. R K CDXM IHCde DXC
6. vHMK IKDOJ LNJN
7. MQNB COOTCP XXE EEC
8. CLXC M j EC jXC M CG
9. MCKGCQ CDXMH JCQCDX
10 NDOONOX SFOD NDOHO SJRXN
11 F'MxxwCU CDC
12 CDX MBOTO OWSV-TDN DN
13 PfnHG-FCOOM DXC


Right to Left
1. XDC BCfxRC GCxfAE
2. JW DVVLO vvcTY M
3. CJ EOH OTTDMOO CEooBW
4. XCU M XGQCCPGU M CX
5. CXD edCHI MXDC K R
6. NJNL JODKI KMHv
7. CEE EXX PCTOOC BNQM
8. GC M cxj CE j M CXLC
9. XDCQCJ HMXDC QCGKCM
10 NXRJS OHODN DOFS XONOODN
11 CDC UCwxxM'F
12 ND NDT-VSWO OTOBM XCD
13 CXD MOOCF-GHnfP

[Anonymous No.19076853]

>>19076442
>You are more likely to find a competent cryptographer on /sci/
Thanks. I'll give it a try
>>>/sci/13657058

[Anonymous No.19077081]

>>19075102
you can't decode anything with such a small reference and if you don't even know the language it's in it's impossible

[Anonymous No.19077124]

>>19075102
look for double letters. If it's an English cypher they'll probably be an "LL." On line 4 I see two upside down triangles.

Look for the most common symbols, those are probably vowels. Line 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 all have the backwards E symbol. That's probably a vowel.

I don't really care about this cypher enough to figure out which vowel.

[Anonymous No.19077139]

There was an Assyriologist anon here a few weeks ago but I agree with the others saying that it was probably slapped together by the prop department based on google image searches of "ancient writing" and also if you care about capeshit you are probably retarded.

[Anonymous No.19077191]

>>19077139
I like comparing capeshit to it's origins in old Norse mythology and the Epic of Gilgamesh etc etc

WandaVision fans don't know about Snorri Sturluson or the eddas so they can't explain the runes or Satyr magic.

Nobody noticed Loki went to see a play he is a character in by Wagner

It's a ten year old alphabet just sitting there. Other sites like Reddit and Twitter could barely scratch the surface.

If you must know, the reason I'm doing this is because one of my random predictions of a TV show caused flame war in that show's fandom, so I want to give them credit for joining in to help solve another fandom's code.
They tried but it's a complicated cipher, so I figure I'll just give them credit and post around the web to see if anyone's interested in sharing ideas.
The movie it's a decade old Easter egg for is coming to theaters soon. It would be impressive to have it solved before then.
Maybe they'll spoon feed us the layout so we can crack it after the fact.

[Anonymous No.19077213]

>>19077081
>it's impossible
What if we brute force random characters associations then run those associations though a cracker with a key word or number?