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>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 01:30:29 No.19065543 File: 137 KB, 1080x788, BF406C14-5871-42ED-BF4C-8490F5C85448.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Howard wrote good poetry and lyrics in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 01:34:42 No.19065563 >>19065531 Are there any stories with this aesthetic? I've tried reading chinkshit scifi but it's somehow even worse than chinkshit fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 01:41:34 No.19065579 >>19065563 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Shadowrun_books#Novels_and_other_fiction

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 01:44:17 No.19065584 >>19065531 >not!Book Club now: wisdom of crowds https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40701780-the-wisdom-of-crowds sep 26: the scar https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68497.The_Scar

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 01:48:07 No.19065593
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Just finished wisdom of crowds. His newest trilogy was such a disappointment compared to the previous 6 books. The only character that was memorable in this one was Orso who was actually one of his best. Joe can write good characters however his plot is always a bit meh. The first trilogy had Logen and Glotka who he will never top. The standalones had Shivers, Cocsa, Gorst, Calder plus all the returning characters as side characters. We might not have gotten Logen as a POV in Red a country but the story is about him. Outside of Orso no one really stood out. At least Gorst went out like a champ. Outside of Logen he's gotten the best send off.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 02:04:12 No.19065633 Unironically, if you want to learn how to write women in fiction. Read the Wheel of Time. Robert Jordan was up to something. T. Writing my own fantasy novel, 27k words in atm

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 02:06:11 No.19065641 >>19065543 He did. I did found his Brak Mak Morn poems the best one because they're all essentially about doom.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 02:09:54 No.19065653 >>19065633 Didn't he base all the women on his wife and girlfriends?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 02:10:39 No.19065655 >>19065531 what happened to flash fiction threads? they just died half a year ago.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 03:08:35 No.19065799 Can we have more thread images like this one that spark your imagination instead of the anime shit?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 03:12:32 No.19065805 >>19065563 >but it's somehow even worse than chinkshit fantasy. I find that extremely hard to believe

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 03:12:57 No.19065808 >>19065799 But this is anime shit? It's from a science fiction anime or light novel.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 04:20:22 No.19066009 File: 356 KB, 1057x979, spaaaace.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19065799

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 04:28:22 No.19066031 File: 223 KB, 655x996, cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19065655 They published two anthologies and slowed down. Which is fine because it would be pointless to keep threads up if nothing was being written.

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>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 06:33:07 No.19066306 >>19065584 I've begun reading it. I like it so far, but not nearly enough blood for a soviet-style uprising. That said, it has made me chuckle more than a few times.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 07:31:31 No.19066459 >>19065563 Vagabonds is good

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 08:03:37 No.19066578 >>19065808 Not him but it doesn't look like that art style. Also looks Chinese rather than Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 08:05:05 No.19066585 >>19066578 it's the same artist as a bunch of the other anime op images lol

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 08:06:17 No.19066586 Do you read an author's works chronologically if it's standalone SFF or just whichever order you want?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 08:06:29 No.19066591 >>19066585 Maybe it is, I wouldn't know, but it looks less anime than what's usually posted.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 08:10:23 No.19066610

>>19066586
I normally take a loose chronological approach in which I select specific works (those that I find most interesting or that have better reputations) and read those chronologically. For example if an author's early work is not particularly renowned I would probably skip those and start later in their career.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 08:55:49 No.19066821 >>19066586 whatever order i want. i don't decide to read all of one author's stuff in a row, that sounds really boring.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 08:57:48 No.19066829

>>19066821
>that sounds really boring.
I just meant where do you start and end? Some people like to see the transformation of the writing style across a period of time. Like reading Conan stories is interesting because they're born from Kull of Atlantis, etc., but turn into something else.
>>19066610
That sounds like the best approach.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 09:36:58 No.19066982

>>19053062
>I'm not a fan of how group's thread just copy-pastes Discord conversation.
That's because there's no discussion otherwise. Most of the threads if you note the date were created at the same time and way after the books because there wasn't anything at all. Several books still don't have a thread. At least it gives an illusion.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 09:38:43 No.19066990

>>19065107
>vote on a new book to stick in the OP every week and then every OP
There are three main problems with this.
1. You'd have to make the threads yourself because almost surely no one is going to put it in the OP for you.
2. The voting will be 100% rigged
3. There won't be little to no discussion, this has been tried several times before in many different ways of encouraging conversation.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 09:41:51 No.19067001 >>19065531 The solution may be to create a lot of separate threads and link them in this thread. At least that way maybe there will be slightly less spamming and low quality posts and possibly attract the attention of those outside of /sffg/.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:06:12 No.19067102 >>19066829 well of course if you're reading something that's a series or generally set in the same world, it makes sense to read it chronologically

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:08:02 No.19067112

>>19065593
I think it was good, but pretty disappointed that shit doesn't get wrapped up like in the previous trilogy.
It feels like this whole trilogy is a second book where he wants to set things up for what he actually wants to write in the finale.
Still, I liked everything other than Rikke and all of the northern bullshit.
Orso is such a fucking tragedy, he never stood a chance. From his short tenure as king he actually showed himself to be a pretty great one and given time he would definitely be able to make the Union great again.
Too bad literally everything was against him. I think the best ending for the whole Union would be if he actually just married his sister and they ruled together.
The way Orso was treated really made me start rooting for Bayaz. Can't wait to see what becomes of Hildi.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:11:37 No.19067132 >>19067112 the way fucking leo stabbed forest then betrayed and killed his rightful fucking king who showed him mercy and largesse really made me mad.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:14:12 No.19067149 >>19067132 Damn, can't believe Joe Abercrombie wrote a twist where someone suddenly acted mean and violent

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:21:19 No.19067192

>>19067149
yes, but this one felt really unearned.
in the first half of the book, leo becomes a politically savvy populist and makes all the right moves to survive and thrive
meanwhile, in the second half he immediately regresses back to his retard self in the first two books while acting recklessly and stupidly.
its almost as if he got artificially buffed just to enable him to take over then gets back to his ineffectual stupid ass self to ruin everything again.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:54:16 No.19067368

Been getting into western chink shit
Really liked Street Cultivation and am currently enjoying A Thousand Li
Any other non litrpg non Isekai stuff like these? From what I understand those authors other series are Isekai litrpgs and those genres don't interest me that much.

I've also been reading The Black Company and it's ok. Does it get better? So far I have enjoyed Garret P.I more from Cook.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:57:56 No.19067387 File: 818 KB, 1269x1600, BC040371-1DAB-4175-A8EE-11E21609E624.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19065808 Artist origins isn’t what makes something anime

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:58:30 No.19067390 White man came across the sea. He brought us pain and misery. He killed our tribes, he killed our creed. He took our game for his own need.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:58:58 No.19067392 File: 66 KB, 500x1000, 3DFE0E80-6E05-4271-9D48-273A0D70ECB1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19065799

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:59:45 No.19067398 >>19067387 What is it then?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:00:25 No.19067400 File: 736 KB, 1078x1087, 6394870B-B160-42C5-81F7-386DA72B8A00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Love all these

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:02:35 No.19067408 [DELETED]

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>>19067398
A style. We have some called western anime. Some of it looks more eastern in origin, but most can’t seem to get western influences out of their work

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:03:50 No.19067415 File: 444 KB, 1920x1019, B305424F-E160-4991-B9E0-3EAE9F206757.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:09:12 No.19067438 >>19067368 Have you read cradle yet?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:16:09 No.19067612 >>19067400 Is that from Tales from the Loop? I know the show got its aesthetic from some Scandinavian dude's art.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:22:29 No.19067667

>>19067112
>shit doesn't get wrapped up
what
so i waited all this time, coped with an ending i didn't even consider satisfying in the first place, only to have his new series end in a cliffhanger too?
what a fucking nigger. what the fuck was he thinking? is he setting up ANOTHER trilogy or just being a cunt author who ran out of ideas?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:22:47 No.19067671 File: 28 KB, 500x500, 45E7DF07-AF69-419A-8208-70BE1FAA91C2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19067612 Stålenhag book, so maybe the guy. (I don't know the show)

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:25:24 No.19067694 File: 181 KB, 1024x1024, F3BD1F3C-A81A-4CE7-9AA8-2452249B43AD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:36:38 No.19067762

>>19067667
Well, to be fair its not exactly a cliffhanger. The main plot is resolved with the so called 'Age of Madness' essentially being FRENCH REVOLUTION BAD.
However, the actually interesting plot threads like the wider world with the thousand year conspiracies and magi machinations are either completely absent or underwhelming.
This whole second trilogy can be boiled down to an elaborate shadow war between Glokta and Bayaz. Glokta strikes a blow and sets Bayaz back by quite a lot such that he now has less political power than he had during the first book.
But its pretty clumsily done since you don't know what's going on with the other magi setting up in the old empire, what happened to Khalul, etc.
Also it doesn't make any sense how during the Union's massive political turmoil nobody invaded their territories. Especially Monza fucking Murcatto, who was described as giggling at the Union's troubles at breakfast and that's about it.
The teaser for the next trilogy sounds really fun though, suggesting Bayaz will use the sneed and break open the walls of reality to usher in a new age of magic and even the return of Euz (or Glustrud).
It feels like this is a bridge trilogy like how Mistborn Era 2 was initially meant to be. Still a good read, but I feel like this is just one standalone spread through 3 books rather than a true successor to his original trilogy.
Can't wait for Hildi kino though

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:40:49 No.19067793 File: 71 KB, 294x475, 498214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Co-worker recommended Katharine Kerr to me. Is she any good?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 11:53:17 No.19067872 Today is Sanderson's 13th cake day on reddit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 12:46:43 No.19068163 >>19067192 >immediately regresses back to his retard self This is what makes me really dislike abercrombie desu, too many of his turns lean on what basically amounts to him going 'actually character development didn't happen'

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 12:55:11 No.19068210

>>19067368
>From what I understand those authors other series are Isekai litrpgs and those genres don't interest me that much
This isn't true for the street cultivation author. The Brightest Shadow is wuxia set in a world where the "chosen one" type is a terrifying monster rather than the protagonist.
Soulhome is the exact same western xianxia genre as thousand li but with a bit of an isekai framing device. It's not wish fulfillment stuff tho, the conceit is that the protagonist left earth went on the stereotypical protagonist's progression journey and suddenly got betrayed at the last.
Now he's going through it again as a bitter old man, trying to work out why the hell he even got betrayed.
Other authors:
Cradle is the standout "western chink shit" series, immensely readable, it's a straight power up story but it's miles better than 1000 li.
Forge of Destiny is a much longer webnovel one but it's pretty good, main audience is people who want to read a long xianxia webnovel but don't want to put up with translated text.

As for Black Company finish the first book, if you don't like it by then you won't ever like it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 13:00:42 No.19068240 >>19067192 It is hit on multiple times that while he might have become more cunning, being made a cripple also made him massively bitter.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 13:23:13 No.19068348 File: 119 KB, 1233x406, IMG_3819.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I went and did it boys, it was pricey but they're on their way now; I'll post a picture when they get here

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 13:52:18 No.19068470 >>19068240 The bitterness is consistent, what's wildly swinging around is his level of competence

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 14:22:59 No.19068643 There will be no books published by E William Brown in 2021. He has failed as an author, publisher and a writer, to keep his fans happy. May he get fucked.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 14:42:38 No.19068749

>>19067438
>>19068210
I haven't read Cradle, but I do have his other series Of Sea and Shadow on my list. I'll check it out. Thanks.
>>19068210
I didn't know that about Brightest Shadow but sounds pretty fun will definitely check it out. Same with Soul Home, I thought it would be straight isekai "protagonist is awesome here is him btfo'ing everything in his path because he's from another world"

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 15:48:49 No.19069174 >>19067132 lol what did you expect? You were reading grimderp.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 15:51:55 No.19069196 >>19067793 >chick author This is like asking if a particular turd sandwich is good. The answer is always NO.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 15:53:39 No.19069211 >>19068348 I feel like you were robbed, but if you have enough money to spend that much on 6 books (whose stories are all available for free online) then more power to you.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:06:52 No.19069308
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Halfway through Blindsight and enjoying it immensely. It took a little while to get into Watt’s dense PhD-tier vocabulary and hard science infodumps, but I’m in the flow of it now and enjoying the ride.

He seems to have a hard materialist doomer worldview similar to Bakker’s but maybe a little less overtly grimderp. Iirc they’re friends IRL.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:10:36 No.19069339 File: 50 KB, 334x540, 21315340._SY540_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Recommend me some spiritually uplifting scifi and fantasy books.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:12:00 No.19069348 >>19069308 Its weird how everyone is always raving about Blindsight, but noone is willing to read the Rifters Trilogy, which is even superior in many aspects.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:14:51 No.19069370 >>19067793 If it triggers incel retards the answer is always YES.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:16:42 No.19069381 >>19069308 >similar to Bakker’s but maybe a little less overtly grimderp Just you wait

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:23:51 No.19069432 File: 87 KB, 1024x680, 1623247413907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19069370 >If it triggers incel retards the answer is always YES.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:32:34 No.19069488

>>19069348
Will check it out thanks.

>>19069381
>>19069348
What is Siri’s exact condition? It was kind of hard to parse Watts’ description in the beginning. He’s called a “zombie” and he’s had a partial lobotomy - is he actually reanimated/undead in some way? And he’s giga-autistic and analyzes human behavior at a distanciated remove, kind of like Kellhus, right? Is he part cyborg or what?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:34:27 No.19069499 >>19069488 He only has one half of brain, isn't that stated at the beginning? Second book mentions how exactly did he lose it

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 16:39:38 No.19069529 Daniel Greene's favorite non /sffg/ books >Any of Ernest Hemingway's stuff >The original Girl with the Dragon Tattoo trilogy >The Road by Corcob YeCarthy >The original Sherlock Holmes short stories what are your favorite non-/sffg/ books, anons?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 17:18:43 No.19069811 File: 28 KB, 600x556, 73c[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19069432 >>If it triggers incel retards the answer is always YES.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 17:22:42 No.19069838

>>19069529
Bull fucking shit. No way some idiot fanboy who constantly shills trash like Jordan and Sanderson and claims them to be some of the best fantasy authors ever has read any Hemingway. Or if he has, he definitely didn't like it. What a fucking poser.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 17:29:07 No.19069881 >>19069838 You okay anon? Feeling alright?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 17:46:02 No.19069989 >>19069881 I feel nothing.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 17:47:48 No.19070001 >>19069348 I didn't care for the next 2 but Starfish is his best book imho.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 17:55:35 No.19070054 >>19069989 That's a lie you tell yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 18:03:06 No.19070103 >>19069196 >>19069370 but seriously, are these worth a read? My co-worker hasn't really led me wrong before; suggesting Thomas Covenant, Wheel of Time, and Gene Wolfe.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 18:08:05 No.19070135

>>19070103
Why do you trust random anons on a peruvian glove-knitting forum more than your coworker who has given you suggestions you enjoyed before? Just give it a shot. And if it's good you can come back and tell us that you found a female author who doesn't suck. If it's bad tell your coworker to never recommend you a disgusting hole author again.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 18:10:58 No.19070160 >>19070103 Based on the cover it looks at least alright. I wouldn't expect something as 'good' as WoT, but I doubt it will be Sandershit/YA tier either.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 18:32:21 No.19070321 >>19070103 No. Only read books written by men.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 18:46:56 No.19070411

>>19070103
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30826657004&searchurl=kn%3Dkatharine%2Bkerr%2Bdaggerspell%26sortby%3D17&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title2
>$3.77 on Abebooks
Go for it. Don't think you're wasting time by reading something that isn't of a certain critic-praiseworthy, literary level, or its genre stylings/plot/characters aren't 100% your cup of tea. Wrong mentality for reading in my opinion. Give it a try, share your thoughts here or on goodreads or on the discord-- skim in a few days if you like. Analyze the shit out of it at your own pace. I guarantee you'll come out of it with something to share with the world, something that in the end, defined your effort in reading it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 18:47:12 No.19070413 >>19070321 *white straight men

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 18:52:32 No.19070438 >>19070103 >suggesting covenant lmao I love it and would not ever do that irl

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 18:53:33 No.19070444 >>19069838 >no way could a mainstream fantasy reader also have read this author who writes in incredibly simplistic prose lol

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 19:24:37 No.19070583 >>19070103 Never heard of her, gonna download it if I can quickly find it and stick it on my ereader but no guarantee that I'll even try it

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 19:24:39 No.19070584
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>Tor is currently not accepting any submissions of any kind
>Orbit is only accepting submissions if you're represented by a literary agent
>DAW is the only well-known imprint accepting unsolicited manuscripts

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 19:25:39 No.19070589 >>19070584 If you don't have an agent you aren't gonna get published, that's the reality of the industry no matter what type of submissions they're taking

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 19:28:18 No.19070603 >>19070584 That's why you self publish, gain a market and following, and have the Publishing Houses approach you.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 19:54:03 No.19070729

>>19065531
Anybody got any good sci-fi/fantasy books that focus on political intrigue? I've got an idea juggling around about something similar to the Last Emperox but I want to really ham up the conspiracies so nobody knows who is telling the truth.

I need some inspiration/ideas to steal.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 20:51:41 No.19070986 >>19067387 Except anime exclusively refers to origin?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 21:03:57 No.19071057 Does /sffg/ enjoy the works of William D. Arand?

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 21:07:20 No.19071077
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>>19070729
I mean I read this, but it didn't quite scratch the itch. I want something with better pacing than this cause I only really got invested in like the last third. The rest I was just struggling to make sense of who did what.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 21:13:44 No.19071120 >>19067408 >western “anime”

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 21:15:20 No.19071134 >>19069339 The Book of the New Sun, The Stars my destination

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 21:16:38 No.19071144 >>19069529 Why do we keep talking about this Nihilist faggot here?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 21:18:08 No.19071152 >>19071057 I did for a while, but his characters have become a bit too repetitive for my tastes. Also his harems expand too fast now, to the point where you don’t get the time to really enjoy the girls.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 21:23:13 No.19071188

>>19071152
>Also his harems expand too fast now, to the point where you don’t get the time to really enjoy the girls.
I've found this to be a problem in almost every harem story not spread out over 9 books. One day haremlit authors will understand the point of a harem beyond existing as a fetish collector.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 22:39:36 No.19071543 >>19071134 is this supposed to be a joke

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 22:46:26 No.19071577 >>19071543 It is if you're looking in a mirror BOOM HEADSHOT

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 22:51:20 No.19071594 >>19071543 >>19071577 ROASTED

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Fri, Sep 17, 2021 23:24:49 No.19071741 File: 914 KB, 2329x1117, 3D34D7DF-12DC-4ED6-AF42-DC1E3EE63E97.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19070986 It refers to a style >>19071120 Yeah yeah. Most of it isn’t very good.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 17, 2021 23:26:50 No.19071758 >>19071741 hi butterfly

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 00:08:52 No.19071977 >>19071543 No. Have you actually read these two books before passing judgement?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Sat, Sep 18, 2021 00:12:46 No.19071998 File: 3.67 MB, 1300x1300, 620C5511-BD02-49AC-B1C5-5E90A3D04177.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19071758 Hi.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 00:18:20 No.19072013 >>19071998 not him but nice art, my favorite from the ones you posted

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 03:33:17 No.19072615

I'm kinda lost on what to pick up right now.
I was really into fantasy a few years ago and read a shit ton of series and trilogies that I really liked.
Nowadays I can't seem to find something that can hold my interest for long. The last book I read that I really liked was Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City.
What do? I really want to get back into reading fantasy because I genuinely had one of the best times of my life getting lost in all the awesome worlds I read about.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 03:47:29 No.19072629 >>19070584 Why are you even looking for a publisher? They do fuck all for you. If you plan to live from your writing and don't become one of those 1% top sellers you're much better of being independent.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 04:37:59 No.19072726 >>19072615 read hobb

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 04:43:45 No.19072745 >>19072726 Her books were the ones that got me into fantasy lol. Although it's been like 4 years since I read them.

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 06:56:43 No.19073022

>>19072615
Same boat, there's plenty of good stuff out there, but the problem is there's no way to effectively FIND it when it's buried under mountains of shovelware harem LitRPG Isekai shite and Hugobait legbeard simpering.

I've been going on a Michael Crichton kick, since I never got around to reading his stuff beyond Jurassic Park. Andromeda Strain was REALLY good, Sphere was okay.

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 10:56:48 No.19073966

>>19070103
>>19070160
>WoT
im 75% into lord of chaos and i find reading the chapters with these 1D idiot women an excruciating chore. also the logic in many things is really poor and while i dont really mind slow pacing the character development is really lacking. i absolutely hate egwene, elayne, nynaeve, sian, thom and i think rand is pretty much a cuck fag. should i just abandon this series? if not, why? if yes, what should i read instead?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 11:02:56 No.19073997 >>19068470 Sure, but it is only after making himself 'king' that he is hit with the IQ nuke so that Savine can dunk on him again.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 11:11:36 No.19074043 File: 165 KB, 1920x1080, ichijo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Which SFF novels have the best sex scenes?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 11:16:48 No.19074059 Reading TGO. Why does Gilgaöl look an awful lot like Ajokli in Celmomas' vision? Why is Gilgaöl holding up Kellhus? Why did Akka even dream through Cel's eyes, not Seswatha's? Did he even really dream "in the old way?"

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 11:30:23 No.19074109 File: 792 KB, 759x573, 1621185510162.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19074043 sex scenes are cringe

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 11:33:21 No.19074122 >>19074109 Sorry, I meant rape scenes.

None !SFFG.n1h7M Sat, Sep 18, 2021 11:34:36 No.19074127
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>>19065531
The Wisdom of Crowds, The Age of Madness #3 - Joe Abercrombie (2021)
Overall this was a departure from the original trilogy and I'm moderately surprised that its overall reception has been so positive considering how it seems to be that people aren't fond of significant changes in what they like. Maybe those who didn't like the changes didn't start this trilogy or they aren't considered significant.
I was quite pleased with how quickly events proceeded at the beginning. What I thought would take half the book at least turned out to have taken far less. The first book was "Maybe we should have a revolution", the second "We're having a revolution" and third is "What comes after the revolution". There are many past, present, and future events that could be used as analogies for the events of this trilogy and especially for this book. The most prevalent is the French Revolution, though elements of much else are present as well.
The trilogy ended as it began. The first book literally foretold what would happen in all three books and the ending of the third book foretells what will happen if there's another trilogy. If the first trilogy was the past, and the second is the present, then a third trilogy would be our catastrophic future. Considering the escalating disasters over the course of the books, I have no doubt that what would happen in the third trilogy would eclipse how berserk this one was.
I'll read however many books are published by Abercrombie in the First Law World. If it's opened up to other authors, I'd consider that as well, as long as they were enjoyable.
Rating: 4/5

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 11:40:57 No.19074160 >>19074059 First 2 will be answered later

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 11:50:31 No.19074210

>>19073966
I haven’t read it in years, so I started reading (well listening to) it again. I remember the books to be very comfy, however I suppose that’s subjective. I also loved the world building, but if that’s not your thing then you probably should just drop it, especially if you’re not enjoying it.

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 13:44:59 No.19074761

>>19074210
the world building is okay, i just hate the female characters, how they don't learn and are rewarded without real sacrifice and how the males defer to them in spite of all logic and how they are treated. jordan must've really hated women and felt absolutely helpless in their vicinity

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 13:49:06 No.19074780 >>19073022 I'm thinking of just rereading the stuff I read a few years ago

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 15:02:50 No.19075104 >>19065799 but it is anime shit

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 15:06:47 No.19075131 >>19075104 Ignore the brainlet who implies that an image can't spark your imagination if it's in an anime art style.

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 15:11:55 No.19075167
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>friend recently told me that he read Mistborn
>"Oh yeah? Did you like it?"
>he complained about how Sanderson was way too wordy and "needs to stop using the thesaurus so much"

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 15:15:56 No.19075199

>>19067368
Why no litrpg?
Anyway cradle is good at first but then it gets heavy on romance and female characters, and main protagonist becames lame.
Read reverend insanity, there is no better cultivation novel (RI has many flaws but it is also immensely good)
Also read martial world, it is more of a traditional chinese power fantasy and it is pretty good for what it is.
If you want to reconsider litrpg, read Dragon Heart (klevanski), it is litrpg however it is much more cultivation than litrpg (mind you latest book is a bit shit, I fear author is taking sjw route).
Read portal wars saga (J E Wisher), short books but surprisingly very enjoyable western power fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 15:54:24 No.19075386 >>19074780 Sounds like giving up to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 15:55:29 No.19075393 >>19075386 Rec me a random series then

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 15:56:27 No.19075397 >>19075199 >(J E Wisher) >J E W

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 15:58:34 No.19075405 Is anyone else's kindle cloud reader library whateverthefuck a piece of shit now?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:05:17 No.19075433 >>19075405 Sorry senpai my koboCHAD library is working just fine

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:07:54 No.19075446 >>19075405 >>19075433 You're both doing it wrong. https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2021/09/why-are-ebooks-so-terrible/620068/

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:10:04 No.19075461 >>19075405 >kindle

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:10:28 No.19075464 >>19075167 You should probably know most people have 8th grade reading comprehension. I believe this explains YA popularity beyond its target demographic.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:11:09 No.19075469 >>19075405 My calibre library is doing fine

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:12:24 No.19075473 >>19075446 I'll never understand why tactile EXPERIENCE with reading books is so important to some people. Content matters, not whether you're flipping paper pages or sliding your finger across the screen. Some get almost religious about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:13:56 No.19075482 >>19075405 Yes. Thankfully, I've been using calibre for awhile now so it's not a big deal for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:15:07 No.19075488 >>19071741 There's nothing "anime" about this style of art. If one were dumb enough to describe anime as an artstyle, it would be synonymous with cartoonish; heavy use of simplistic shapes for over-exaggerated effect.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:16:58 No.19075496 Is it worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:18:11 No.19075500 File: 210 KB, 600x943, FE44AFAC-929E-4CD4-B440-8168DDAC13E2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19075496 Forgot pic

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:19:22 No.19075505

>>19075167
Sanderson is definitely too wordy. He goes on constant unnecessary exposition infodumps and otherwise repeats shit way too often (probably because he's well aware only children and morons like his mediocre dreck). So many of his books could easily have at least a fourth of their length cut without any real impact to the story.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:20:48 No.19075509 >>19075496 >>19075500 Absolutely. Some argue that story collection is the best out of all Dying Earth stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:23:54 No.19075518 What's some good post-apocalyptic fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:25:11 No.19075525 File: 148 KB, 825x1238, 712nyC97BjL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19075518 Strictly fantasy? Because The Earth Abides isn't fantasy, but it's amazing. >THE HAMMER

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:25:48 No.19075528 >>19075525 Okay I'll give it a shot. Thanks anon.

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:27:00 No.19075536

>>19075473
Sight: They are a feast for the eyes.
Sound: Each turn of a page is a symphony.
Smell: Truly amazing and unreproducible.
Touch: Makes one want to orgasm from doing so.
Taste: Can you really say you love a book of you don't take it into your body?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:28:16 No.19075546 >>19075518 The Jerusalem Man trilogy

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:29:14 No.19075554 >>19075446 Don't care, didn't read. Ebooks don't take up space in my tiny apartment. They're also free until I buy them.

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:31:05 No.19075565
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>>19075446
>Bookiness. That’s the word Glenn Fleishman, a technology writer and longtime bookmaker, uses to describe the situation. “It’s the essence that makes someone feel like they’re using a book,” he told me. Like pornography or sandwiches, you know bookiness when you see it. Or feel it? Either way, most people can’t identify what it is in the abstract.

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:37:06 No.19075609

>Inhibitor Phase
It was pretty fine, however it gets almost entirely spoiled by main trilogy, which in turn gets spoiled by short story written before bulk of the series. And if there will be novel describing shit that happens after Galactic North it will be spoiled by main trilogy as well. Seriously kinda weird composition here.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:38:32 No.19075615 >>19075609 Reynolds says it should be considered as a mosiac.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:44:37 No.19075642 I want to start the Wheel of Time series since I've been putting it off long enough. If I buy the books, does Amazon or Sanderson get any cut of it or does it all go to the publisher/Jordan's estate?

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:46:31 No.19075649

>>19075565
What a retarded idea, only someone like a "longtime technology writer" could come up with such non idea that is completely lacking in any insight and wisdom
Google glenn Fleishman (jew?), first results come with some recent tweets of his, second tweet mentions pornography, what in the name of fuck? Clearly porn is on mind

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:49:01 No.19075664 File: 410 KB, 1650x2475, 815KilYg1qL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this out already or what? I have a friend on goodreads thats apparently reading it now, but I cant find it on libgen. I like the cover

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 16:53:20 No.19075700 I get now why some think slog starts only on Path of Daggers. LoC and Cos were pretty disastrous already but this ... this is a full blown parody at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 17:21:35 No.19075882 >>19075664 Already sheebana on the cover

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 18:01:20 No.19076118 >>19070444 >implying Hemingway is on the same level as sandershit Get your head out of your ass, kid.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 18:04:02 No.19076135 Is Wheel of Time acceptable here?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 18:05:47 No.19076141 >>19076135 Yes, much to the annoyance of our resident psueds

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 18:11:58 No.19076162 What those sci fi and fantasy book cover are so shitty? Post god-ter scific and fantasy bookcover

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Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 18:18:49 No.19076188

>>19076118
I didn't say it was, Sanderson's actually a more challenging read
>>19076162
Bujold has a blog post about this, iirc Stross does to.
The tl;dr is that crappy covers readers can identify as from the genre they like significantly outsell unique/good covers

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 18:20:37 No.19076196 >>19076188 >The tl;dr is that crappy covers readers can identify as from the genre they like significantly outsell unique/good covers Surely they use examples... right?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 18:22:12 No.19076203 >>19076188 >The tl;dr is that crappy covers readers can identify as from the genre they like significantly outsell unique/good covers That's bullshit but I believe it completely.

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>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 19:39:11 No.19076534 >>19075199 I'm just not a fan of the concept. I think mediums tend to get shittier as they embrace other mediums (like games trying to be movies) instead of focusing on their own strengths. Thank you for the suggestions, I'll add them to the list.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 20:58:57 No.19076919 Anyone except me really liking the new Dune movie? I was actually hella surprised to see them include scenes from the "Road to Dune" Collection of Cut Content / Proto Dune stories kinda sad no Dinner scene in movie tho

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 20:59:57 No.19076923 >>19076919 Wait I thought it wasn't out yet

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:07:06 No.19076944 >>19076923 >>19076923 it sure as hell is already in cinemas, tho I did pirate it actually :-) ... also what the f is up with the captchas, I have not posted anything on 4chan in months, and now there is sliding scale riddle captchas? O_o

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:08:10 No.19076948 >>19074127 >Overall this was a departure from the original trilogy A departure in which way, that the burners have burned, that it's an age without wizards?

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:30:52 No.19077059
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Whats some good hard sci fi "average joe trying to make it in the world" reading? Something were the protag is just working a job eating peasant space food and working a job dreaming of something bigger.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:31:58 No.19077065 >>19077059 Did i mention that his name is jie and hes working a job?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:32:20 No.19077070 >>19077059 expanse for like 6 seconds

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:32:39 No.19077074 >>19077059 Cyberpunk, if you squint.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:34:44 No.19077080 File: 108 KB, 800x800, 1631734830792.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19077074 I want something comfy not to die laughing!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:35:23 No.19077086 >>19076944 Oh it isn't out yet in burgerland which is what threw me because usually we get it first or at least at the same time

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 21:38:41 No.19077103 >>19076944 where'd you torrent it from? Can't find it on 1337x or Rarbg, not even a camrip

Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 22:52:12 No.19077367

>>19075664
it's been released in UK/canada? but not until this fall in US. i'm guessing that there aren't a lot of seeders for erikson outside the US at the moment.

i'm just annoyed that i have to wait another 3-4 years for resolution of kharkanas trilogy and my only new erikson is one of my least favorite characters (karsa). i also do not have a lot of respect for esslemont's books, they're not on the same level and feel as the original MBotF

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 23:22:43 No.19077482 >>19075664 >>19077367 https://www.mediafire.com/file/venuun8c13buag4/The_God_is_Not_Willing_-_Steven_Erikson.epub/file

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 23:26:57 No.19077498 >>19067408 How can I be as smart as you, Butters?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Sep 18, 2021 23:49:58 No.19077582 >>19075536 Based bibliophagist Chad.

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:08:44 No.19077644
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>>19075488
I haven’t posted an example. I figure you’re all familiar with it.
Cartoon is what westerners call the medium. The same medium the Japanese call anime, true. They have on occasion animated non-anime styles.
So what I’m doing is calling western art/animation (Disney etc.) cartoons, as a general style, instead of a medium. There’s no rules for this, but I think you’re just being sour about it all for sourness’ sake.

Here’s a western anime *style*

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:10:42 No.19077651 File: 134 KB, 1024x768, DEE39D06-88DA-4438-8C92-3394AA1B46EF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And a Japanese artist doing Disney (I do believe. Not sure) >>19077498 Seriously?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:12:23 No.19077654 >>19077651 Yeah, seriously.

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:35:41 No.19077719

/sffg/, would this character be too annoying for comedic fantasy

>a dimwitted, happy-go-lucky britsh kid whose dream is to be the captain of an airship fighting sky pirates on venus and talks like a sailor
>note that said kid lives in the real world in the 1950s, and not a parallel universe where such a thing is possible

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:36:43 No.19077725 >>19077719 Why don't you ask the writing general, you stupid sack of shit?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:39:58 No.19077736 >>19077725 because they respond to literally every question with "just write" even if its completely irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:43:26 No.19077749 >>19077736 sounds like the exact advice you need, retard!

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:43:35 No.19077751

>>19077719
>>a dimwitted, happy-go-lucky britsh kid whose dream is to be the captain of an airship fighting sky pirates on venus and talks like a sailor
>>note that said kid lives in the real world in the 1950s, and not a parallel universe where such a thing is possible
Why are you writing a story about literally me (but in the 50s)? I don't recall signing away my life story rights to anyone

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:45:07 No.19077756 >>19077749 dude, fuck off. you're not wanted here anymore than you're wanted in real life

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:47:06 No.19077761 >>19077719 >>19077736 How about you just write.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:53:17 No.19077779 >>19077719 This post really isn't enough to go on to judge a character. Just write. If you later feel he doesn't fit or if you get negative feedback about him then change him. But asking us to judge him before we know how it turns out is just silly.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 00:55:51 No.19077784 >start reading the wheel of time after dropping it ages ago >the beginning is nothing at all like how I remembered it >it's not even close what the FUCK was I reading before?

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 01:02:27 No.19077801
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>>19076162
It went wrong when covers stopped portraying actual scenes and became these abstract pieces where changing the font changes the genre of the book. Intentional, obviously.

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 01:11:40 No.19077832
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I know it's not strictly fantasy but has anyone read this series?
How does it compare to the TV series? I liked the first few episodes but hated it pretty quickly and thought that hornblower was far better

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 01:14:27 No.19077835 File: 349 KB, 800x562, Chun the Unavoidable by Nulsh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19075509 >>19075496 I've read some of it and it's fine. The only one that really stood out to me was the backstory for Chun the Unavoidable

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 01:18:17 No.19077844 File: 447 KB, 1000x1426, MV5BMThjNTY5OGYtZTIwNy00MTVjLWJmNmItMjk4Y2U0YWQxZDgzXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjc3OTE4Nzk@._V1_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19077059 Planetes and Patlabor If it has to be a book: Gateway or Emphyrio

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 01:50:46 No.19077958 >>19077832 CHOSEN MEN

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 02:12:31 No.19078038 File: 28 KB, 550x309, 1629252236006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19077844 Planetes is what got me interested in this, Loved it. Thanks for the recs fren.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 02:21:41 No.19078063 >>19077832 pretty good, its a bit like james bond really, very episodic novels

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 02:22:51 No.19078066 >>19075664 what a shitty cover

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 02:23:49 No.19078067 >tfw you just read some Eskimo S&S Talk about BASED.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 02:30:29 No.19078081 >>19078067 is there polar bears in it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 02:42:51 No.19078112 >>19078081 Shut up

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 02:49:38 No.19078137 >>19068163 Most of the time isn't even about reverting character development, it is about turning people into idiots or geniuses so he can tell his story.

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>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 04:27:37 No.19078438 >>19078400 Moorcock was one of the worst things to happen to S&S.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 04:30:55 No.19078446 >>19078438 I disagree but you do you

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 04:32:14 No.19078449 >>19078446 That's what I thought, sissy.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 04:55:13 No.19078565 File: 218 KB, 1200x1859, in-savage-lands.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished pic related, bros, and it was good. Really solid S&S collection that was better than the previous S&S collection I read (Rakefire).

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 05:01:34 No.19078590 File: 73 KB, 679x1324, siss618L81PsmIL._AC_UX679_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19078449 >That's what I thought, sissy. nothing wrong with sissies, bigot

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 05:02:36 No.19078594 >>19077059 Finder's about a repo man just trying to do his job and getting embroiled in a massive conflict because of it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 05:15:22 No.19078639 >>19077784 Could be the new weird,Egwene centric intro that was added for some/all versions at some point.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 05:23:05 No.19078668 >>19077059 C J Cherryh: Merchanters Luck

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 05:25:35 No.19078678 >>19078668 not accurate, that's actually about the horniest man alive

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>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 06:27:51 No.19078839 File: 44 KB, 326x500, 51-TOtX11mL._AC_SY1000_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man this is the most pseud reddit-choked shit I've ever read. Is the sequel any better?

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 06:30:18 No.19078844

>>19078839
The sequel is hilarious. The first half of the book is same as the first, the second half is pure nonstop sex, straight out of a fapbait YA novel.
Meets a god? It is a sex goddess, of course.
Trains with ninjas? They are sex ninjas, of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 06:32:24 No.19078848 >>19078839 How is it pseud? It's unabashedly YA

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 06:33:32 No.19078851 >>19078839 skip the sequel and check out his best work, Rick and Morty vs Dungeons & Dragons

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 06:37:01 No.19078859 File: 562 KB, 1400x2150, 91O9vATtm0L.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19078851 >It's real Fuck my life

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 07:04:34 No.19078918 >>19078839 it's significantly worse

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 07:35:57 No.19078998 >>19078844 omfg i must return to this and COOOM >>19078859 topkek

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 08:06:28 No.19079093 >>19078848 It tries really hard to sound intellectually poethic but fails miseribly

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 08:10:32 No.19079104 >>19078839 The sequel is infamously much much worse

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 08:35:51 No.19079186 >>19065593 I prefer Age of Madness to the original trilogy and the standalone books to Age of Madness.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 08:37:42 No.19079192 >>19078859 This is more suited to his talents than trying to write another novel.

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 08:48:22 No.19079216

>>19079093
>It tries really hard to sound intellectually poethic but fails miseribly
The argument you can make is that this is intentional, the protagonist is established in the prologue as a nobody now and is telling his own story to someone who is going to spread it
This is also the one way you can excuse how bad the second book is but it would require an incredible conclusion to actually make this reading of the series canonical.
And would also piss off his remaining audience (people who somehow liked book 2)

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 08:51:27 No.19079225
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>>19079216
>(people who somehow liked book 2)
A lot of people did. Don't underestimate the average reader.
But it is very obvious that he enjoys his sub-celebrity status far more than writing, so he'll never get it done. His schedule is too busy with talks, conventions and RPG shenanigans anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 08:58:32 No.19079238 >>19079216 Nah, you are confusing the "unreliable narrator/kvothe as a self-centered asshole" metacommentary (which is actually really written) with how much of an actual pseud geek Rothfuss really is

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:01:01 No.19079243 >>19079238 actually really well* written

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:01:16 No.19079244 File: 671 KB, 972x1600, Miller+1959+-+A+Canticle+for+Leibowitz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what am i in for?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:02:07 No.19079249 >>19079244 Pure kino and the best scifi novel of the 20th century

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:22:46 No.19079304 >>19079244 Abortion is wrong even in a post-post-apocalyptic world

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:27:38 No.19079313 >>19079304 Why a post-apocalyptic setting make it acceptable to murder children?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:33:50 No.19079331 File: 283 KB, 1125x1500, 4D522A1C-2F5C-4F9A-85D0-A2D307B0C90D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are there any Sci-Fi novels that are as emotionally powerful as Interstellar?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:35:17 No.19079336 File: 111 KB, 1080x1080, 1631922466261.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] przyszły spierdon

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:47:27 No.19079376 >>19078805 what's the source for this brother?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 09:48:09 No.19079380 >>19071998 I want a knight gf

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:02:48 No.19079434 >>19079313 I didn't say it did. I said the exact opposite, grass-eater.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:04:17 No.19079440 >>19078805 Based Pringles Man

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:09:28 No.19079458 >>19079434 Your post seemed to imply that the situation rendered its immorality absurd.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:12:31 No.19079474 Why does Gene Wolfe get so much praise? His books are yawnfests.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:17:43 No.19079500 Looking for beta readers for soft sci fi. Where should I go for it? /wg/ is a bit slow atm

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:21:24 No.19079517 >>19079500 Free lancers do it online for money

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:22:00 No.19079521 >>19079376 cope: an anthology by gene wolfe

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:22:42 No.19079525 >>19079517 >Free lancers do it online for money Don’t bring up my worst repressed memories about that girl I hired from Fiverr who didn’t know what a longship was in a story about Vikings.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:54:40 No.19079661 >>19079525 The naiveness of women will drive you insane. Especially when they're constantly complaining about how hard things are for women.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 10:54:53 No.19079663 >>19079331 >what if, like, love could cross space and time Oh fuck off Nolan

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 11:11:14 No.19079730 File: 776 KB, 450x450, Jewdar.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19077644

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 11:54:45 No.19079896 >>19078998 He also managed to make all the sex very unsexy

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 11:57:22 No.19079904 >>19079896 Looking at him I can't imagine he's writing from experience

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 12:42:08 No.19080115
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>N.K. Jemisin won the MacArthur Fellows Program Genius Grant in 2020
>Other recipients include Guy Davenport, George Saunders, Jesmyn Ward, and Cormac McCarthy
Jemisinchads, I kneel...

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 13:25:13 No.19080318 >>19078639 Yeah it turns out you were right. Very different way to start it. It made me double check that I was starting with the right book

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 13:38:39 No.19080376 >>19067793 First four books are solid in my opinion but it goes downhill after that. >>19069370 Katharine Kerr triggers leftists too: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.motss/c/v_p4qP7MEZQ?pli=1

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 13:40:01 No.19080385 >>19070729 The comicbook Invisible Republic is a great hard sci-fi with lots of focus on propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 14:15:30 No.19080554 File: 14 KB, 300x300, 895e8f0ad8a786f3efbf108899141b6e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Feeling a little happy after the past few years. I might update that chart I made sometime soon.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 15:58:36 No.19081063 File: 15 KB, 220x289, 1602574059370.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] King

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 16:26:51 No.19081180 >>19081063 The Bakker shilling has gotten to the point where I don't know if it's all ironic shitposting or if I should actually read his stuff

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 16:32:28 No.19081205 >>19081180 Not my problem.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 16:38:49 No.19081238 File: 34 KB, 512x384, 1603049255089.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] B A S E D A S E D

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 16:42:31 No.19081255 >>19081238 imagine the smell

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 16:49:43 No.19081286 Any good fantasy where it is modeled on Colosseum battles? Something like Severian's duel in Shadow of the Torturer or when Daenery's sees the pit fights in ASOS and ADWD

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 16:56:21 No.19081315

I've structured my reading pattern so that I read an actual novel by a published author and then when I finish that I go read some self-published wish fulfillment trash and then back to the real novel after etc., etc. It's been going pretty well so far. The novels are usually twice the length of the self-published works so the latter turns into a nice break between the heavier pieces.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:27:16 No.19081429 Anyone read A Fire Upon the Deep?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:30:18 No.19081448 >>19081429 yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:30:49 No.19081451 >>19081448 Cool. I just bought Void Star.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:33:21 No.19081458 How is Hyperion?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:36:46 No.19081472 >>19081458 good

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:37:05 No.19081474 >>19081451 >tfw teenage girl didn't get bred

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:39:50 No.19081483

>>19081286
Not relevent to the thread, but I want to pitch a game show to a children's network where the kids have to have one on one cutlass duels on a full size pirate ship, winner stays on until the last kid of the batch has to fight the winner from the prior episode. The last kid to win the duel at the end of the season wins the treasure chest full of gold. I haven't decided if the duels are actually going to be to the death or based on fencing rules.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:42:38 No.19081495 >>19081483 Why children?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 17:49:44 No.19081517 >>19081495 Cute shotas dressed up like Errol Flynn.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 18:08:33 No.19081581 >>19081517 I'm a tomgirl fan myself.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 18:57:09 No.19081780 >>19071077 The sequel to this is fucking awful. First one was decent though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 19:20:54 No.19081857 >>19081238 oof grimderpies are pure cringe

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 19:38:16 No.19081933 >>19076185 Damn, that’s pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 19:39:33 No.19081939 File: 119 KB, 466x503, 1632094662666.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really like the concept that the entire world is Morgoth's philactery; his Ring as it were. So even if his body is removed to the void, his power and essence endures.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 19:45:10 No.19081965 >>19081939 >yawns

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 20:00:00 No.19082054 >>19078859 fucking kek

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 20:05:01 No.19082072 File: 196 KB, 950x579, witcher-books-243829-1632095124(1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've read all but two Witcher books. Here's how I'd rank them

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 20:51:44 No.19082272 https://springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm My male lead/love interest got a 35 and my female lead/love interest got a 52. I set out to make a power fantasy because my life is shit so whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 21:05:37 No.19082337 >>19082272 >And for those who wonder about it - I use the gender-neutral terms "xe," "xir", and "xirself" because Tab closed

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 21:33:44 No.19082456 >>19082272 I got a 69. Not even mad about it

Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 21:57:15 No.19082557

Bakker fags, you shilled me into this book, and holy fuck itz gud. But when will this Kellhus fag go away and let Cnaiur take up the main character position. Akka is a little bland at times, and the whore has some enjoyable parts, but damn. Cnaiur is daddy

>>	Anonymous Sun, Sep 19, 2021 23:52:40 No.19083042 >>19067387 >>19067392 >>19067400 >>19067415 >>19067671 >>19067694 >>19071741 i didnt know you had an extremely reddit taste in art

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:04:09 No.19083096 >>19065563 >>19065805 What the hell is chinkshit fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:05:12 No.19083103 >>19082072 >author's name 5x bigger than title It's definitely The Witcher.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:07:34 No.19083110 >>19065593 Calder is unironically one of his most compelling characters, maybe even just a bit under Logen and Glokta. Loved his slimy, deceitful nature

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:08:35 No.19083118 >>19065633 So all the women you know are cunts?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:09:43 No.19083125 File: 469 KB, 2518x1024, cultivated.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19083096 Xiaxia cultivation novels. Think crouching tiger hidden dragon, but with more genocide and explosions.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:16:24 No.19083146 >>19070103 Fucking read it yourself and make up your own opinion like an adult, asshole

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:18:30 No.19083154 >>19070160 Legit question. Not a Sanderfag but genuinely curious about your exact reasons: why do you dislike Sanderson so strongly?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:21:09 No.19083163 >>19071144 This

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:21:23 No.19083165 >>19083154 Contrarianism mostly.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:25:41 No.19083185 >>19075505 What? I've read some Sanderson and if anything he uses way too little. The repeating shit is definitely true

Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:31:27 No.19083213

>>19075700
Path of Daggers is meh up until the last bit, which ends pretty explosively. But Books 7-10 could've been condensed into 2 books, easy. Especially considering how much shit happens in, say, the Great Hunt alone, there was no need for four thousand page books

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:35:03 No.19083223 >>19078639 Wait what? There was an Egwene centric intro?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 00:37:44 No.19083233 >>19079244 Have this on my shelf. Will read it soon

Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 01:09:23 No.19083362

>>19083223
If I recall correctly, in this version the book opened in the village as they prepared for the festival rather than with the prologue and the first chapter being Rand seeing the dark rider in the woods. It isn't nearly as gripping in my opinion so I can't imagine why they made the change.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 01:25:08 No.19083444 >>19081458 Good but ends on a cliffhanger so just go ahead and get Fall of Hyperion at the same time. The Endymion books are total shit however; you will be able to see why by the end of Fall if you have any taste.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:16:57 No.19083597 are scifi magazines worth checking out? which ones? I notice a lot of the modern ones have flack for pushing woke shit

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:18:16 No.19083604 >>19083597 Fucking read them yourself and make up your own opinion like an adult, Christ.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:20:14 No.19083608 What are the best, most entertaining books in Baen's catalog? I'm really in the mood for some of that David Weber/Larry Correia type of pulp. Poul Anderson's Technic Empire books got my eye right now, what else could I get?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:21:01 No.19083611 >>19083604 why does me asking for opinions cause you to feel anger?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:31:28 No.19083642 >>19083611 Why can't you read for yourself and form your own opinion?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:34:33 No.19083651 >>19083042 Here's your (you) faggot. Now fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:37:15 No.19083665 >>19083651 It is reddit art.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:51:10 No.19083729 >>19081286 Sharps by KJ Parker mayhaps?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:55:07 No.19083747 >>19072615 read more KJ Parker if you haven't already, he has plenty of novels out there. I'm reading The Company at the moment

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:56:41 No.19083753 >>19083747 >KJ Parker What books would you suggest I read first?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 02:59:45 No.19083766 >>19083753 there's a sequel to 16 Ways... called How To Rule an Empire and Get Away With It, would make sense to start there Engineer Trilogy is good if you want a longer series >>19083729 and The Folding Knife are his best standalones in my opinion

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:01:18 No.19083772 >>19083766 Thanks, will add them to my reading list and buy them when I have the chance. Any other author you would recommend?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:05:23 No.19083788 >>19081180 It's pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:07:10 No.19083799 >>19083772 sure Roger Zelazny Daniel Fox Nick Harkaway JM McDermott

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:07:27 No.19083801 new thread >>19083798

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:08:35 No.19083805 >>19083799 >Nick Harkaway I heard of him, isn't he an author who wrote a post-apocalyptic story?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:12:25 No.19083821 >>19083805 yeah - The Gone-Away World - great book imo

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:13:24 No.19083825 >>19083821 That's the one, Nice to know he gets recognition here. Thanks for the list anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:17:18 No.19083842 >>19082557 the 2nd book is about 50/50 cnauir and kellhus. 3rd book 30/70

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 03:18:32 No.19083844 >>19081238 wondering why the guys wearing the gods not dead tshirt, any theories?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 04:59:13 No.19084144 >>19083642 because I enjoy discussing the topic

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 07:10:59 No.19084568 >>19083844 That is what you are questioning? Seriously? Not the invididual that looks as if he never threw a fist in anger with the shirt "I demand a trial by combat"?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 09:09:17 No.19084974 >>19083362 That intro is a classic so no idea either

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 10:29:25 No.19085364 >>19083821 you read any more Nick Harkaway? I really want to pick up Gnomon (and Gone-Away World, too) but I can't find a copy anywhere. I'm gonna have to resort to online...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Sep 20, 2021 10:32:56 No.19085379 File: 22 KB, 324x500, 267E3595-0A21-4F07-AFDF-0A3AB80A01BB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19081939 I agree Anon.

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