/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19056021]

What the fuck is his deal?

[Anonymous No.19056052]

>>19056021
chatter

[Anonymous No.19056181]

Scruton's lectures on nonsense philosophy explains him pretty well

[Anonymous No.19056189]

You can launder money by pretending to be an obscurantist public intellectual.

[Anonymous No.19056197]

>>19056181
>everything that makes my little brain go awoogabooga is nonsense!

[Anonymous No.19056228]

>>19056197
Please explain the meaning of this excerpt from Lacan in simple English in under 1 minute:

>We can symbolize them by first:
>f(s...S')S=S(-)s

>That is to say, the metonymic structure, indicating that it is the connexion between signifier and signified that permits the elision in which the signifier installs the lack-of-being in the object relation, using the value of `reference back' possessed by signification in order to invest it with the desire aimed at the very lack it supports

If you fail to do so, Lacan remains a peddler of fake philosophy.

[Anonymous No.19056269]

>>19056021
Every grifter's idol.

[Anonymous No.19056289]

>>19056021
He found a way to print countless papers with minimal research involved, peak of academic achievement

[Anonymous No.19056291]

>>19056021
cool memes

[Anonymous No.19056300]

This man managed to cuck Bataille, surely he must know something we don't.
I think this is the only metric by which a thinker should be judged

[Anonymous No.19056305]

>>19056291
>steals established mathematical structures like directed graphs
>inserts random garbled freudian nonsense into them
damn this shit is deep af nigga

[Anonymous No.19056312]

>>19056228
>booohooooo why dont you explain this out of context excerpt to a retard who asks in bad faith, how could you doooo thisss

[Anonymous No.19056324]

>>19056312
how old are ya son, 12, 13? gimme something here

[Anonymous No.19056328]

>>19056324
you have never even heard of hava, why would I explain lacan to you lol

[Anonymous No.19056333]

>>19056328
>NOOOOOO DON'T TAKE AWAY MY COOL YUMMY CONTINENTAL PHILOSOPHERINOS, THEY'RE EPIC AND BADASS MOM

[Anonymous No.19056336]

>>19056333
hava nice day haha gottem

[Anonymous No.19056341]

>>19056228
>f(s...S')S=S(-)s
I hate him so much for using formulas and pretending to be scientific.

It's like some situationist prank or like he followed KLF's The Manual: Poststructuralism Edition.

I honestly feel bad for guys like Žižek or Butler who use some of his concepts and fill them with actual meaning and context, but this prankster gets all the credit.

[Anonymous No.19056350]

>>19056341
it's postmodern art, anon. he's writing poetry, it has no meaning beyond that which you project onto it.

[Anonymous No.19056393]

>>19056350
I'd even respect him if this is what he was actually all about...

How come no postmodernist tried to merge philosophy and epic poetry or something like that? Even that Land's leetspeak drivel gets points for honesty because he's trying to use writing style as integral part of his philosophy.

[Anonymous No.19056416]

>>19056021
He admitted to being a charlatan, but I’ve honestly no idea why he stuck and wasn’t forgotten

[Anonymous No.19056488]

>>19056416
He fooled the academia so now he's a link in the chain of knowledge.

A lot of people had to pretend to get him and projected their own ideas onto his gibberish by citing and "refining" his work. This is how you sometimes need to act on order to get taken seriously in these circles.

Now it's clear that he's a fraud you still can't denounce him because you'd be dissing all that came after him, throwing the baby along with the bath water so to speak.

[Anonymous No.19056516]

>>19056488
how do you write so many words and have such strong opinions on someone you clearly havent read and dont know anything about? why he lives rent free in your head? its like you have a fixation on something. its like he became your objet petit a....

[Anonymous No.19056528]

>>19056516
Dude I was into Lacan when I was 15 too, but eventually you'll realize it's all smoke and mirrors to give people an excuse to be 'smart' in a performative way.

[Anonymous No.19056573]

>>19056528
I'm over lacan, but I can still acknowledge his worth lol. just ignore him if you dont like him, no need to seethe lol.

[Anonymous No.19056641]

>>19056516
lol, actually I appreciate the burn, it was clever.

I exegerrate of course, but it all comes out of my frustration with his obscurist writing style and weird use of mathematical tools. I'd really like to give him another chance if I knew how to get into it properly maybe?

At the point where an author can't be properly understood directly but you can rely only on comparing multiple analysis of his work, I can't take him seriously anymore and take interest in his critics and disciples instead.

It's like how relying only on bible makes you kind of a retard unaware of your own projections on the text you don't have context for.

[Anonymous No.19056809]

Why is he beloved by latin american psychologists? Actually, why are psychologists so antagonic towards any of their colleagues that happen to follow another school of thought? Actually, how is psychology a respected field when its schools of thought are all simultaneously recognized and legitimized despite having divergent and unreconcilable conclusions and theories about the same subjects? Actually, why is psychology treated as a solid and objective field when most of the conclusions a psychologist reaches when dealing with a patient are exclusively the result of his subjective impressions and the application of abstract concepts based on the subjective impressions of those that came before whose opinions he happens to agree with? Actually, why is psychology so respected when time and time again it was used as a grift and its definitions are inconstant - like how the mainstream psychological view on subjects like cultural relations and sexuality is completely inconstant and molds itself to the current mainstream view on such subjects?

[Anonymous No.19056843]

>>19056228
ok chomsky

[Anonymous No.19056852]

Desire topographically projected on toruses, never ceasing, never reaching satisfaction

[Anonymous No.19056921]

It's very simple, anon.
Let s \in S be your soul. In that case, we will assume S to be a feeling algebra that defines the operation '*', also referred to as the love operation. From this definition it follows, that s_1 * s_2 = k \in S.
Do you get it now? This is how psychotherapy is supposed to work, after all. I am very smart.

[Anonymous No.19056925]

>>19056852
I misread that as "TROUSERS". It all made sense suddenly.

[Anonymous No.19056963]

>>19056852
These are 70's Yes lyrics

[Anonymous No.19057684]

>>19056021
Student of Kojeve's reading of Hegel like Bataille, Klossowski and a few others. Reworks Freud into a monist symbolic theory rather than a dualist gnostic theory.

[Anonymous No.19058461]

>>19056228
>from Lacan in simple English in under 1 minute:
Anon there's plenty of legit science that if you cut out of context would be impossible to explain in under a minute. Don't legitimize Lacan like that. Anyway...
...it's pretty fucking simple, I'll use pic related as an example. There's an unspoken desire here, the envy of usually middle aged women who 'enjoy' those shitty minion memes ("in order to invest it with the desire aimed at the very lack it supports") even though it's sarcastic because the person who made this meme or their intended audience clearly identifies with the Video Game fan.

[Anonymous No.19058485]

>>19058461
To become the impossible objet of revulsion. To master Thanatos and drain her of her juicy deathsemen. To reduce to voluntary involuntary celibacy the race of “man boy.”

What epic behemoth fails to bestride this problem?
What mediocre cock calls forth it’s own calamitous ignoring?
What MILFs demand a son as unimaginable as the reality of their own defective cuntshit polished to a turd shine to be thrust back whence it came like a bottom floor apartment toilet where the main drain of desire is hopelessly clogged.

I steel your shit. Freeze it. And frozen shitfuck your mother while wearing a chad costume. And I can diagram it in Lacan.

[Anonymous No.19058547]

>>19056228
Pretty easy to explain. He does it in the line you quoted but here.

>f(S…..S')S=S(-)s
You made a typo there. This is an attempt by Lacan to symbolize the relation between metonymy and meaning. On the left you have the signifying function, or, speaking. S to S’ (S-prime) refers to a string of contiguous/syntagmatic words (S=signifier) that are metonymically connected. One word brings up another associated word and so on. In attempting to say something meaningful, we have recourse to an expanding set of signifiers that always defer and displace the original meaning we were trying to get at. That’s where you get to the right of the line, after the = sign: the S (signifier, or word) over (“-“ is a bar) s (signified, or meaning). The metonymic chain of associations, in constantly using other associated words to define a previous word or get at some meaning we set out to express at the beginning of an utterance, establishes a bar/barrier between words and meaning, signifier and signified. Meaning cannot be fully expressed and is left on the other side of the bar. We try to say what we meant but only say words that don’t mean what we meant to say. Lacan uses the phrase “lack-of-being” here, derived from Kojève in part, to show how this effect of metonymy—the signifier’s elision of meaning—creates a sense of something missing in our relation to the world, something that punctures a hole in the order of things, and which we want to somehow satiate and fill endlessly. We want to satiate the lack and get at the meaning but each time we go for it, the more we speak, the more we recreate the lack and the more we push what we want away. You can disagree with his conclusions here but he wasn’t using the terms of the linguistics, psychoanalysis, and philosophy of his time in any outlandish way.

[Anonymous No.19058887]

>>19058547
good post desu

[Anonymous No.19058901]

>>19058547
What a bunch of gibberish.

[Anonymous No.19058917]

>>19058547
crap

[Anonymous No.19058987]

>>19058547
Bugmen BTFO

[Anonymous No.19059061]

>>19056228
This is peak academia right here. All style and no substance. Philosophy after Nietzsche is pointless.

[Anonymous No.19059155]

>>19056228
We can never say what we mean to say and this fact makes us think that there’s something missing in everything—we get close to the missing thing in our speech but we never fully grasp it, and that’s what makes us want it and all that we desire.

[Anonymous No.19059732]

>>19058547
>Meaning cannot be fully expressed and is left on the other side of the bar. We try to say what we meant but only say words that don’t mean what we meant to say
All psychanalists after Freud are the same, charlatans who vomit endless books, using the most retarded and convoluted language possible to explain matters already solved a few hundred years ago.

[Anonymous No.19059757]

>>19056021
Giga pseud

[Anonymous No.19060023]

>>19058547
IN ENGLISH DOC

[Anonymous No.19060027]

>>19060023
Nobody can ever say what they think because it is always a reference to a shithouse 80s movie wubalubadubdub also you want to eat a monster cock

[Anonymous No.19060032]

>>19058547
Antilacanian pseuds btfo by simple math

[Anonymous No.19060145]

>>19058547
You can put that right back up his ass

[Anonymous No.19060149]

>>19059061
Skinner*

[Anonymous No.19060151]

>>19058547
based effortposter btfoing brainlet midwits

[Anonymous No.19060202]

>>19056021
Renew and extend Freud's work for the postwar world. Also antipsychiatry.
And Lacan wasn't a philosopher, never pretended to be. Instead of studying the subconscious on individuals like Freud he tried to analyse its effects on the collective, which leads to the dissidence of Félix Guattari and schizoanalysis as an attempted synthesis of Lacan and Althusser.

[Anonymous No.19060260]

>>19058547
>/lit/ getting filtered by this
Based, Lacan has always been a nuclear grade midwit filter.

[Anonymous No.19060285]

>>19058547
this is literally just basic semiotics

[Anonymous No.19060321]

>>19060202
Freud stopped being treated seriously post-war and psychoanalysis in general was pushed to "if nothing else works" area as far as clinical and academic psychology goes, and even there it's questionable whether it works better such advanced therapeutic methods as confession to the priest does. It ended up being the domain of pseuds, people who hold on thanks to institutional inertia(in France more so than in other western countries), pop-psychologists and charlatans.

Lacan is part of a generation that made life hell for autists in France, as they thought it's not a disorder but rather a result of bad socialisation and because of the mentioned institutional inertia screwed up 2 generation of them, as a 4chan poster I feel obligated to express my disdain for them because they've hurt my people.

[Anonymous No.19060328]

>>19060321
>whether it works better than such advanced therapeutic methods as confession to the priest does
heh

[Anonymous No.19060348]

>>19060321
>Lacan is part of a generation that made life hell for autists in France
So you're in favour of Lacan?

[Anonymous No.19060459]

>>19060321
>as they thought it's not a disorder but rather a result of bad socialisation
that's mostly true though

[Anonymous No.19060507]

>>19060459
Only if you include self diagnosed autists into the conversation. Autists are legitimately retarded in some ways, even most assburgers aren't actually as high functioning as their old definition would make you think.

[Anonymous No.19060550]

>>19060507
It's a general tendency of several diagnoses that has to do with lack of socialization (the decline of extended family and community) and a therapeutic welfare state that slaps diagnoses on anyone that is slightly awkward, unmotivated or "unhappy" - therefore "unfit" for an extremely service-oriented, "positive" economy.

It's all very rational in the eyes of the state - and not in the sense of scientific rationality.

[Anonymous No.19060595]

Lacan is a chimeric mixture of Kojeve, Heidegger, Hegel, Saussure, Bataille, Jaspers, Freud, and even Salvador Dali

[Anonymous No.19060673]

>>19060550
You haven't dealt with autists outside of the internet and outdated books. They're not just awkward, the awkward genius type thing is just cope that's being told to parents of autistic children. To think of this in terms of internet personalities, majority of aspergers(in old lingo high functioning autists), the good case is someone like Ullilililila(or whatever it's spelled), Chris Chan is at the bad end of things, but closer to the average. Now if we get outside of Asperger's and into autism proper we're talking about people at around 70 IQ with issued of reaching various developmental goals(they start talking very late in their life, sometimes even in their teens etc). This is not socialisation, destruction of family or any other retarded thing you believe in, this is a defective brain at work

[Anonymous No.19060718]

>>19060673
I'm talking about the general tendency in a therapeutical society, not particular cases. Of course you had fools and madmen even in close-knit communities, people that can't be socialized.

[Anonymous No.19060839]

>>19058547
Today was a based day.