Noam Chomsky fails again

[Anonymous No.19055790]

How can anyone still take this guy seriously, let alone consider him to be "radical"?

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1433295789716086787?fbclid=IwAR3ojtODGDjWYdaKjmLrh11KNHsSsw8gwBAxNpYxClLKeU3DVON4kT0T6VQ

[Anonymous No.19055805]

>>19055790
he isn't wrong. get back in your hovel, plague rat, and stay there

[Anonymous No.19055817]

>>19055805
He is wrong for so many reasons, not least of which is that the vaccines that are being pushed have proven to be a colossal failure. Natural immunity, as has been shown in Israel, is far superior. It is the vaccines that are putting mutation pressure on the virus.

[Anonymous No.19055821]

>>19055790
>implying i don't voluntarily isolate from society already

[Anonymous No.19055825]

Why is this guy considered such a big deal philosophically? I know he made some important contributions to linguistics but all the stuff he gets talked about for is basically just the normal political claptrap that a dozen other faggots are also saying.

[Anonymous No.19055829]

>>19055817
source that isn't a pol thread?

[Anonymous No.19055835]

>>19055790
LMFAO.

how will lit recover when they realize the evil french pedo civilization destroyers are the only thinkers who predicted biopolitics, terrorism, and crisis theory.

how will they recover when the only thinkers formulatng coherent critique of what's happening are turbo anarchists like agamben? hahahahahahahahahhaa, anglos

[Anonymous No.19055840]

In an anarchist society the people do still have the right to shun those they feel are a threat to the community. They just won't be coerced or use statist force to do so, but rather will on their own volition and desire to exclude a particular group.

[Anonymous No.19055845]

>>19055840
in an anarchist society we hang chomsky on the first day faggot

[Anonymous No.19055852]

>>19055829
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-epidemiologist-says-the-case-for-covid-vaccine-passports-was-just-demolished/

[Anonymous No.19055854]

>>19055835
Why does Agamben think they're doing this? Seems to me it's just so they can implement digital id for social credit type purposes. The wealth transfer is another motive. I have also considered the possibility they are just kind of insane and retarded.

[Anonymous No.19055859]

>>19055790
When will this motherfucker finally kick the bucket?

[Anonymous No.19055863]

>>19055835
People here really should read Foucault's writings on biopower and biopolitics

Foucault’s biopower refers to the intersection between power (political, economic, judicial etc.) and the individual’s bodily autonomy. Dispositif utilises political power to regulate and control the bodily autonomy of the subject. It relates to governmental concerns of fostering the life of the population, "an anatomo-politics of the human body a global mass that is affected by overall characteristics specific to life, like birth, death, production, illness, and so on." It produces a "generalized disciplinary society and regulatory controls through biopolitics of the population"

Foucault described biopolitics as "a new technology of power...[that] exists at a different level, on a different scale, and [that] has a different bearing area, and makes use of very different instruments." More than a disciplinary mechanism, Foucault's biopolitics acts as a control apparatus exerted over a population as a whole or, as Foucault stated, "a global mass."

The development of vaccines and medicines dealing with public hygiene allowed death to be held (and/or withheld) from certain populations. This was the introduction of "more subtle, more rational mechanisms: insurance, individual and collective savings, safety measures, and so on." Catastrophes are periodically mobilized as vehicles for historical transformation.

Foucault argues the exercise of power in the service of maximizing life carries a dark underside. When the state is invested in protecting the life of the population, when the stakes are life itself, anything can be justified by it.

[Anonymous No.19055864]

>>19055790
He's more than radical, he's totally tubular!

[Anonymous No.19055875]

>>19055835
anglos refused to read postmodernists because of woke scare and now they have no decent tools to critique the status quo

[Anonymous No.19055886]

>>19055854
It's a mix of those three, and probably close to 1/3 for each in proportion.

[Anonymous No.19055887]

>>19055875
You really dont need to read postmodern philosophy to point out the state doing various retarded things

[Anonymous No.19055894]

>>19055875
<le Anglos
Truly rent free

[Anonymous No.19055911]

>>19055887
if you are content with pointing out, then we have no problem

[Anonymous No.19055914]

>>19055875
>now they have no decent tools to critique the status quo

[Anonymous No.19055915]

>>19055835
Only fifty years after Junger. Nice
>>19054189

[Anonymous No.19055917]

>>19055863
I am currently reading the Birth of Biopolitics 1978-1979. What else do I need to read to understand biopower and biopolitics

[Anonymous No.19055922]

>>19055917
History of Sexuality vol 1 and Discipline and punishment are 2 basic intro books for this topic

[Anonymous No.19055923]

>>19055790
this is kike/theorycel anarchism/anti-capitalism in practice

[Anonymous No.19055931]

>>19055825
Well he’s currently the best philosopher of his century. Jordan Peterson and Zizek already dominated the 21st

[Anonymous No.19055932]

>>19055917
Read Agamben's recent writings on COVID

https://aphelis.net/agamben-coronavirus-pandemic-interventions/?fbclid=IwAR3XxkxvtqkK-ZXsEAHxrWbwpexQUO-IQU9rB8IwkRiToboHY0fpMyDP37o

[Anonymous No.19055939]

>>19055922
Thanks, I got all three parts of History of Sexuality and Discipline and Punish is on my to do list. COVID and renewable energy got me very interested in these ideas. Want to try to learn as much as I can about this

[Anonymous No.19055942]

>>19055817
Those are mighty big claims for shit you just made up in your head. I admire your reckless self-confidence, but please come to terms with being a retard or else I fear for your future

[Anonymous No.19055948]

>>19055852
>medrixiv
you are a disgrace to your family and ancestors

[Anonymous No.19055951]

>>19055932
Thanks will do

[Anonymous No.19055954]

>killing people with glasses and beards is wrong noam!
>so we should also kill people without glasses and beards?

[Anonymous No.19055958]

>>19055931
>JP and zizzy
Please tell me youre making a funny and that this isn't an actual belief of people

[Anonymous No.19055959]

>>19055835
We must resist the Reactionary reappropriation of foucault for the purposes of a paranoid individualism which has always bern the prerrogative of the privileged/entitled white male subject. the real revolutionary position is positive biopolitics, being for vaccines and against ant social deviations for anti racism and BLM for trans rights for sex worker rights and for returning land back to indigenous sovereignty and for the positive usage of technology. Agambenbros are alienated downwardly mobile white guys whereas bratton stack terraformers are a diverse crowd of upwardly mobile proffesionals

[Anonymous No.19055969]

>>19055942
>offers no countervailing points
>"yep, you're dumb"

That's how I know I'm on /lit/

[Anonymous No.19055971]

>>19055790

[Anonymous No.19055975]

>>19055959
Save it, Schlomo. I'm not buying what you're selling.

[Anonymous No.19055979]

>>19055959
This is well crafted but obvious

[Anonymous No.19055989]

>>19055835
What a coincidence!

[Anonymous No.19055995]

>>19055790
Christ, what an asshole.

[Anonymous No.19056008]

>>19055863
>People here really should read Foucault's writings
lol

[Anonymous No.19056013]

>>19055942
I'm a doctor, so you can fuck off.

[Anonymous No.19056016]

>>19055931
Very funny post!

[Anonymous No.19056026]

>>19056013
>I'm a doctor, so you can fuck off.

[Anonymous No.19056031]

>>19055959
You do realize that African Americans are the most unlikely group to take the vaccine, right? And for good reason...they have been experimented on for over a century in America. Now the experiment is far broader - it's just that most people are too stupid to realize it.

[Anonymous No.19056068]

>>19056031
No its white people who are most unwilling to take the vaccine despite never have been subjected to unethical scientific experiments(in fact it was always white men doing the experiments and they only got away withit because of racism.). White men cant stand to be called white men because they are used to thinking their thoughts are autonomous and not affected by history. While minorities are always told to think of themselves as members of groups. Ideas like anti vaxx or racism sexism and transphobia or whorephobia are public health threats if allowed to spread they will literally cost lives

[Anonymous No.19056076]

>>19056068
lol

[Anonymous No.19056082]

>>19056068
Why would you lie about something which is so easy to check lol

[Anonymous No.19056110]

>>19056082
>>19056031

Seethis article written by a Black woman
>www.theroot.com/its-white-people-1847553027/amp

Its white people who are refusing to wear masks it was white supremacist insurgents who assaulted the capitol last january. I say its about time for our white community to get itsshit together and assume the responsibilities that come with our privileges.

[Anonymous No.19056113]

>>19056068
Decent bait. 5/10, definitely deserves a (You)

[Anonymous No.19056117]

>>19056110
lol

[Anonymous No.19056120]

>>19056110
Are you really not going to admit that they have the lowest rate of vaccination. I can't tell if you're just doing a bit here

[Anonymous No.19056127]

>>19056110
Maybe fascism wouldn't be that bad

[Anonymous No.19056132]

>>19055790
Why is this fucking corpse still roaming the earth? I’d have him die after writing Manufacturing Consent just for any major writer the Conservative Revolution or the Frankfurt School live to publish one more work. Mmmmmanarchosyndicalismmmm mmmmmmvoteforbidenmmmmm.

[Anonymous No.19056163]

>>19055790
He is right. As a libertarian, knowingly engaging in reckless behavior that affects me violates the NAP. I would be fine with executing those that refuse to get get the jab and spread it like a pozzed faggot with aids.

Ignoring those that say it isn't effective, or can have serious side effects. You're also subhuman idiots and deserve to get killed.

[Anonymous No.19056172]

>>19055863
translate this shit into English and its just babby's first Hobbesian discourse

[Anonymous No.19056173]

>>19056163
lol

[Anonymous No.19056174]

>>19056163
>libertarian
>trusts the state
I dont believe you

[Anonymous No.19056180]

>>19055969
You're the one making claims and you haven't offered even a whiff of something to draw me in to your beliefs. Convince me, dipshit

[Anonymous No.19056184]

>>19055790
Poor guy has become senile in old age, even like 4 years ago he was still relatively normal

[Anonymous No.19056190]

>>19056068
>>19056110
Are you that same tranny who posted about how the true socialist revolution isn't in factories but in womens bodies?

[Anonymous No.19056202]

>>19055863
>>19055875
>Postmodernists solved everything!
By merely making this claim you undercut what postmodernism is, utterly filtered

[Anonymous No.19056213]

>>19055825
His linguistics contributions are mostly bullshit

[Anonymous No.19056218]

>>19056202
>look papa, I won against a strawman!
go read peterson, chud

[Anonymous No.19056227]

>>19055790
>isolate people who disagree

this was mentioned as one of the goals of the new world order to eliminate people who disagree with their narrative.


https://youtu.be/2i3BTXxl8KM

[Anonymous No.19056231]

>>19056174
I hope that the state tells you to not swallow shattered glass next.

[Anonymous No.19056244]

>>19055790
Vaccinated spread cov2, rsv and flu same as everyone else.

[Anonymous No.19056248]

>>19056218
>no argument provided
Also what are you doing in a Chomsky thread? You know he called Foucault an apathetic grifter lol

[Anonymous No.19056249]

>>19056244
Evidence?

[Anonymous No.19056251]

>>19056231
Do you really think they care about you? Top kek

[Anonymous No.19056254]

>Noam is still alive
>Norm is dead
fucking cruel world I tell you

[Anonymous No.19056256]

>>19055790
This entire situation is stupid beyond words.

[Anonymous No.19056257]

>>19055790
The anarchist response to every problem member for an anarchist society is to "isolate them from society"
how the fuck do you do that without hierarchy

[Anonymous No.19056258]

>>19056244
Fake and gay

[Anonymous No.19056263]

>>19056231
awfully touchy there sweetheart, you okay?
enjoy your endless boosters

[Anonymous No.19056272]

>>19055817
don't let them gaslight you. you're correct. they do not profit if you are correct, so you must be wrong

[Anonymous No.19056282]

>>19056257
that's what humans did for 300,000 years lol, we've had structural hierarchy for 12,000 years. Back then problematic members were left to survive for themselves, I don't see how a hierarchy is needed for this. individuals of the group refuse to associate with you, you have to leave.

[Anonymous No.19056288]

>>19055790
Just a reminder that both sides (yours included) are completely retarded and the truth lies, as always, in the middle.

[Anonymous No.19056290]

>>19056288
>says both sides are wrong
>refuses to elaborate on the supposed correct middleground
based retard

[Anonymous No.19056315]

>>19056288
lol

[Anonymous No.19056330]

>>19056190
It is. Read federici. Trans rights sex workers rights and feminism decolonization and anti racism directly challenge the basis of white supremacist cisheteropatriarchal capitalism through a program of positive biopolitics . While your pseudopopulist appeals to the most backwards sectors of the working class only further it. You really are like qanon or medieval witchhunters or lynchers going after women or PoC who are too uppitty but reservin your white settler entitlement to go maskless and carelessly spread toxic ideas

[Anonymous No.19056335]

>>19056330
lol

[Anonymous No.19056338]

>>19056330
TOP KEK screenshotted

[Anonymous No.19056346]

>>19055817
The Israeli data shows that neither vaccines nor natural immunity prevent spread, and both wear off. What Israeli data are you referring to.

[Anonymous No.19056374]

>>19056346
>>19055817

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/study-covid-recovery-gave-israelis-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/amp/

[Anonymous No.19056378]

>>19056330
This reads like it was generated by that postmodernist article writer AI bot, top bait sir

[Anonymous No.19056379]

>>19056190
The true vanguard of the workers movement is Sex workers are women and queer people who refuse to perform unpaid sexual and emotional labour for white men thus undermining the whole basis of reproductive labour

[Anonymous No.19056388]

>>19056379
i'm having a stroke

[Anonymous No.19056407]

>>19056190
>>19056330
Feminism really was the worst ideological force unleashed in the 20th century, it's more and more clear to me that the Left got subverted because feminism devolved into intersectional civil rights theory and now we have posts like this, ironic or not, that are the primary platform of Leftism.

[Anonymous No.19056440]

>>19055875
PoMos are all subservient to Heidegger. Without Heidegger, Foucault and Derrida would just be retards writing articles for Le Monde. Poststructuralism and related research fields would not exist without Heidegger’s destruction of Jewry and Dasein

[Anonymous No.19056465]

>>19056330
>Trans rights sex workers rights and feminism decolonization and anti racism directly challenge the basis of white supremacist cisheteropatriarchal capitalism through a program of positive biopolitics
I refuse to believe this is a coherent sentence

[Anonymous No.19056470]

hes right. chudschizos have no place in society

[Anonymous No.19056485]

>>19056251
>>19056263
Yes, I'm touchy that you pozzed niggers are spreading your shit everywhere. At this point I would support genociding you on moral grounds, even if it didn't end up helping.

[Anonymous No.19056492]

>>19056407
Jews subverted feminism to be all about trannies and prostituting women which is hilarious honestly.

[Anonymous No.19056513]

>>19056485
Since you're a libertarian yous be fine with a state deciding it was not going to bother with all this right? So the people who prefer that can live there and the people who prefer restrictions can live in their state.

[Anonymous No.19056517]

>>19056290
>refuses to elaborate on the supposed correct middleground
It is worth taking the vaccine if you are old or in an other major risk group. It is pretty clear that vaccinating children is idiotic. Covid has 0.4% fatality rate overall, and nearly non-existent fatality rate for healthy young people, with less than 1% hospitalization rate for this demographic. Vaccines are unlikely to kill you, or harm you seriously. Most covid vaccines increase the risk of myocardytis. Ideally vaccines are tested for decades, and covid vaccines have a slight chance of posing significant health risks in the long run. Such risk is negligible compared to the risk posed by covid for old people. Such risk is bigger than the risk of covid for healthy young people. Mass vaccination forces the virus to mutate to vaccine resistant strains, therefore we should avoid vaccinating those who don't need it. Vaccinated people can still spread covid, but they do so less than the unvaccinated, although we don't yet know to what degree. Vaccines barely impact your chance of getting the virus but they drastically decrease the chance of hospitalizaion and death, with many people getting asymptomatic cases. Budesonide and, perhaps, Ivermectin need to be approved for treating covid on case-by-case basis and the state should fund more large-scale trials. Pfizer/Moderna/etc. are evil companies that have done very shady things, have major influence on the media, and would sacrifice your children to a demon if that meant they made more money because of it.

[Anonymous No.19056523]

>>19055817
source?

[Anonymous No.19056527]

>>19055805
Let's see you do something about it cuck

[Anonymous No.19056535]

>>19056244
At much lower rates than the unvaccinated*

[Anonymous No.19056541]

Does he still respond to emails? I got a response from him in less than like 10 minutes from when I sent it.

[Mr. Westmount No.19056556]

>>19055790
He's shilling for his kind...

https://youtu.be/CD8tKbE7duA

[Anonymous No.19056558]

Chomsky became an average leftist media talking head in his old age, what a shame too

[Anonymous No.19056579]

>>19056513
>>19056527
You are violating the NAP. The state has the moral ground to have you niggers gassed, but I'll do whatever I can to have you dealt with on my own.

[Anonymous No.19056588]

>>19056579
You clearly didn't understand what I said. A state had the right to decide it doesnt want these restrictions does it not? If the people and the state agree it's not necessary there is no violation.

[Anonymous No.19056623]

>>19056558
He was literally raving about how great China was in the 70s after they had just had a local saga that was comparable in death count to all of WW2.

[Anonymous No.19056628]

>>19055790
He is unironically right. You must be an unvaccinated brainwashed rightoid

Sorry he didn't validate you, you stupid fuck

[Anonymous No.19056630]

>>19056623
>He was literally raving about how great China was in the 70s after they had just had a local saga that was comparable in death count to all of WW2.
He also denied the Khmer Rouge, so what
His takes were genuine and radical back then

[Anonymous No.19056643]

>>19056628
lol

[Anonymous No.19056647]

>>19056588
The state is illegitimate if it will not maintain the integrity of the social contract. If 100% of people in an area were okay with it, and they were not allowed to leave that area, then it would be okay.

[Anonymous No.19056654]

>>19055790
>Noam Chomsky fails again
in what regard?

[Anonymous No.19056666]

>>19056647
You realize you're also breaking the nap even if you have a vagz since you can still spread it lol. As well as other viruses

[Anonymous No.19056746]

>>19056666
>>19056666
The odds of spreading it are far lower, and most viruses are not even close to being this infectious or deadly. When taking risks you need to take precautions to ensure that you are not putting others at unreasonable risk. If you won't do that then you're recklessly endangering others and need to be stopped.

[Anonymous No.19056768]

>>19056579
you won't do shit :^)
other than let your heartrate seething over those not jumping in the sinking ship you've found yourself in

[Anonymous No.19056770]

>>19056746
You literally endanger people more by driving a car lmao.

[Anonymous No.19056774]

Spreading a virus is a threat to the wellbeing and safety of the community, therefore it violates the NAP. If you wish to live in a commune, then you must respect other people's autonomy and not intentionally get them sick.

[Anonymous No.19056785]

>>19056774
What happened to your tough guy attitude nigger? Again, you won't do shit.

[Anonymous No.19056795]

>>19056785
If I am a business owner I will refuse the right to provide service to the unvaxxed.

[Anonymous No.19056804]

>>19056213
this

[Anonymous No.19056810]

>>19056795
>If I am
But you're not are you, so you won't do shit :^)
Enjoy your endless boosters, thank you for partaking in the human trials for an experimental medicine with no long-term case studies whatsoever.
Remember, you did it for FREE.

[Anonymous No.19056835]

>>19056770
If you're being retarded on the road, you shouldn't be allowed to drive. If you're being retarded about rona, you shouldn't be allowed in society.

>>19056768
I've already ran a family out of town for refusing to vaccinate their kids, but I'll keep voting for communists because they're the only ones that know what to do with you niggers.

[Anonymous No.19056837]

>>19056835
Enjoy your endless boosters, thank you for partaking in the human trials for an experimental medicine with no long-term case studies whatsoever.
Remember, you did it for FREE.
>I've already ran a family out of town
you shouldn't lie on the internet, anon

[Anonymous No.19056873]

>>19055825
This is an 18+ board

[Anonymous No.19056882]

>>19055825
read manufacturing consent

[Anonymous No.19056889]

>>19056190
>>19056330
knew it

[Anonymous No.19056906]

>>19056837
You want everyone to participate in the human trials for getting the rona you knuckle dragging nigger?

[Anonymous No.19056918]

>>19056906
You're so retarded, must be the seething getting to your head.
I'll see how the vaccine pans out over the next 10-15 years, cheers for being one of the earliest trials.

[Anonymous No.19056951]

>>19056918
It all makes sense now. Your nigger brain thinks that getting rona won't have any long term effects because it's pretty much just a bad cold, but a vaccine is gonna denature your brain. You're embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.19056964]

>>19056951
>getting rona
I've already got the coof in November of 2020, so whatever long-term effects of covid I might get, I can do nothing about, no vaccines available.
>but a vaccine is gonna denature your brain
I never said any of this, do you see how blatantly shitty your argument is? Or do you expect me to be so retarded as to not see through your disingenuous pilpul.

[Anonymous No.19056969]

>>19056330
I hope this is bait, but have a "I fucking hate trannies" from me anyway.

[Anonymous No.19057013]

>>19056964
LMAO, I thought you were the cool cocky one? Are you starting to see what a shit eating retard you are?

>I've already got the coof in November of 2020, so whatever long-term effects of covid I might get, I can do nothing about, no vaccines available.
Immune system does not stay trained against a virus forever, there is already a new variant that has replaced the old variant, and you have NO idea what the long term effects are, and if they're additive or not.

>I never said any of this, do you see how blatantly shitty your argument is? Or do you expect me to be so retarded as to not see through your disingenuous pilpul.
Then what do you think it will do? And how will it be worse than actually getting rona?

Not that any of that matters. You are still endangering others and need to isolate yourself.

[Anonymous No.19057022]

>>19056969
Not all of us i like that i am trans i have a phd in austrian economics a white ethnonationalist proudly anti vaxx and a traditionalist roman catholic( sedevacantist)i am hoping to attract a white trad husband to raise adopted children with

[Anonymous No.19057070]

>>19057013
i advise you to lose some weight

[Anonymous No.19057071]

>>19056256
I have absolutely no idea if I should take this vax or not. I don't believe there's anything wrong with it, but I know in my heart and mind that it's completely unnecessary. It looks like I need it to continue living my life normally, which makes me want to rebel against it even more.

It's like the narrative of fear got exaggerated, but we all have to play along because the idea that the world doesn't make sense anymore is even scarier than covid.

[Anonymous No.19057091]

>>19057070
i advice you isolate yourself out of life

[Anonymous No.19057102]

>>19057091
funny because i never will and you'll just have to live with me nigger

[Anonymous No.19057107]

>>19057022
>trans
>white ethno-nationalist
>traditionalist roman catholi
The /pol/ tumblr synthesis will be disaster for the human race. Stop browsing and find Christ for real please.

[Anonymous No.19057112]

>>19057102
it's not funny. the world would be better without you. ill keep voting to make your life harder you pozzed faggot.

[Anonymous No.19057115]

>>19057112
>it's not funny
it's pretty hilarious seeing you kvetch over my existance, remember to get every single one of your boosters sweetheart

[Anonymous No.19057123]

>>19057071
Don't fall for the pressure, anon. You'll regret it.

[Anonymous No.19057126]

>>19057115
I hope it keeps being funny as you're slowly choked out of society. Don't pretend that it's not trending that way negro.

[Anonymous No.19057137]

>>19057126
>slowly choked out of society
ooo getting a bit upset now are we? i'd be very careful with what you're saying by the way, many burgers would minecraft you over your rhetoric

[Anonymous No.19057174]

>>19055790
he's ancient lads, give him a break already and let him end his days in peace.

[Anonymous No.19057180]

>>19056407
>Feminism
>20th century
anon, come on

[Anonymous No.19057182]

>>19057137
I don't know why you keep throwing out "u mad?" as if I didn't explicitly say that I wanted you killed, and why you're lecturing me on my rhetoric when I called you a nigger. Are you out of things to say?