/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.19052910]

The Lady in Jade edition

Previous Thread: >>19031765

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[Anonymous No.19052919]

>>19052910
Why'd you make this before the bump limit?

[Anonymous No.19052920]

>>19052919
he didn't

[Anonymous No.19052921]

>>19052919
ah yes, the bump limit that was reached literally 63 seconds ago

[Anonymous No.19052924]

Science Fiction

[Anonymous No.19052935]

Fantasy

[Anonymous No.19052943]

Dystopia utopia

[Anonymous No.19052948]

>>19052910
Absolutely based, noble, honourable and chivalrous OP slaying the monstrous animetroon who has obsessively posted the last dozens of threads with his vile cartoons.

[Anonymous No.19052949]

Already a shit thread.

[Anonymous No.19052951]

Historical Fantasy/Romance

[Anonymous No.19052952]

>>19052951
>Historical Fantasy
It's literally a historical romance, not fantasy.

[Anonymous No.19052956]

>>19052952
it has Fantasy tropes

[Anonymous No.19052962]

>>19052956
No it doesn't. The author herself, stated that she writes historical romances.

[Anonymous No.19052965]

>>19052962
it feels like fantasy, it reminds me of stuff like Prince of Nothing.

[Anonymous No.19052972]

>>19052965
In what way?

[Anonymous No.19052973]

What are some uncomplicated, Heroes being Heroes fantasy?

[Anonymous No.19052978]

>>19052910
>Lady in Jade
She (along with Jadis/the White Witch) awoke my femdom fetish as wee lad

[Anonymous No.19052982]

>>19052972
there was dark tones throughout the novel and the character suffered abuse at the hands of his godfather, very Bakker like

[Anonymous No.19052987]

>>19052982
Christ, you're almost as worse than the bakkerfags. Stop spamming bullshit already.

[Anonymous No.19052997]

>>19052987
it's not bullshit, Fantasy is based on historic times, if a novel is historical it will have Fantasy tropes

[Anonymous No.19053002]

>>19052997
Fuck off already, ain't no one buying your bullshit.

[Anonymous No.19053004]

>>19052973
Three Hearts and Three Lions

[Anonymous No.19053062]

>>19052910
So anyway, who's reading The Wisdom of Crowds with the group? I'm not a fan of how group's thread just copy-pastes Discord conversation.

[Anonymous No.19053064]

>>19053062
You can blame the bakkerfags from driving away the other anons just to shill their leftist author.

[Anonymous No.19053072]

>>19053064
>you can't talk about book because other people will leave if they see book

[Anonymous No.19053073]

>>19053062
that cover is fucking horrific

[Anonymous No.19053078]

>>19053072
No, I'll say it was the constant spamming and repeated questions that drove them away.

[Anonymous No.19053082]

>>19053064
Bakker is a BASED king, he flingity fling, wopity wopp, flangity flang

[Anonymous No.19053085]

>>19053078
probably your endless whining

[Anonymous No.19053086]

>>19053082
>Bakker is a BASED king,
No he isn't and go back to your reddit already.

[Anonymous No.19053108]

>>19053078
>>19053086
A lot of the Bakker spamming is false flagging by one butthurt ESL autist.

[Anonymous No.19053109]

>>19052943
who reads this shit?

[Anonymous No.19053112]

>>19053108
Would believe it, if it weren't for the fact that two or more anons do the same shit.

[Anonymous No.19053116]

>>19053109
a lot, it got out of hand they deleted it from Amazon

[Anonymous No.19053119]

>>19053109
You're mom

[Anonymous No.19053120]

>>19053112
Learn 2 filter. Longform Bakker lore/effortposts and original HQ memes are /sffg/ originals. The endless, mindless Bakkerspam is the handiwork of one obsessive filtered third-world autist who hates the author for whatever reason and want to defame him as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.19053129]

>>19053120
yeah bro it's a conspiracy to defame Bakker

[Anonymous No.19053133]

>>19052910
>Book Club
now: wisdom of crowds https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40701780-the-wisdom-of-crowds
sep 26: the scar https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68497.The_Scar

[Anonymous No.19053138]

>>19052919
Reminder that this is the anime OP thread maker
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=why+did+you+make+a+new+thread+before+the+bump+limit

[Anonymous No.19053143]

>>19053138
Wow! very high quality First-World neurotypical Post!

[Anonymous No.19053147]

>>19053138
Pretty sure making early threads are frown upon. Didn't a thread from a general get pruned because of it?

[Anonymous No.19053149]

>>19053062
One guy usually posts his review of the group reads here, you can reply to him and/or post your own review.

[Anonymous No.19053152]

>>19053143
keep seething troon

[Anonymous No.19053164]

>>19053152
keep seething about imaginary troons

[Anonymous No.19053196]

>>19052910
I like anime anon more than this scorching white background and schizo post

[Anonymous No.19053199]

>>19053196
keep seething troon

[Anonymous No.19053204]

>>19053199
this absolute schizo and his scorching eye damaging art, I don't even like anime but he is better at picking art

[Anonymous No.19053218]

every post here is an example of why this general is dead, not because of bakker or anime or sanderson. it's because of autistic fags who can't help but complain in post after post, yes including this one. if you want an active general then just stfu about stupid shit and talk about books

[Anonymous No.19053224]

>Based non troon art be like

[Anonymous No.19053239]

>>19053218
>talk about books
I be like Prince of Nothing, because it neetchian and based non troon, I will re read it for the third time and I'm exited to read about that time he passed out and found poopy on his dick

[Anonymous No.19053241]

So what did you fags think about Wisdom of Crowds?
First time I actually read The First Law (listened to audiobooks for the other ones, and this is the first I'm caught up on release) and atmosphere/characters were as strong as ever, but the plot felt a bit weak
Overall the outcomes made sense, although I'm very sad about Orso and Sulfur getting killed didn't make sense to me, the Zuri=Ishri thing was obvious enough that I can't believe Bayaz didn't know about it

[Anonymous No.19053243]

King of /sffg/

[Anonymous No.19053247]

>>19053204
>I don't even like anime but he is better at picking art
I don't even know what even constitutes as "anime" art anymore since this place doesn't even know anime.

[Anonymous No.19053256]

>>19053247
they call it anime so I went with it, the art in past threads is way better than this one

[Anonymous No.19053275]

>>19053256
>they call it anime so I went with it,
Pretty sure it's just one anon that calls it that, and I'm pretty sure he's the one calling other anons troons if they disagree with him.

[Anonymous No.19053284]

Next book I'm gonna read, bros. I hope it's good.

[Anonymous No.19053293]

Has anyone ever made a comprehensive unification of the lore of Kull the Conqueror during the Thulian age and Conan the Barbarian during the Hyborian Age?

[Anonymous No.19053294]

>>19053275
so he is replying to himself saying he is based for slaying animetroon? that's sad

[Anonymous No.19053298]

>>19052935
I'd read it

[Anonymous No.19053303]

>>19053293
No because that's gay.

[Anonymous No.19053341]

>>19053293
If by "lore" you mean history then yes because REH himself wrote an essay about the entire history of all the ages up to modern times.

[Anonymous No.19053370]

>>19053341
It's pretty explicitly a fusion of real history and pseudo scientific myths, REH is pretty clear about that in his essay.

[Anonymous No.19053397]

>>19053370
Don't reply to me ever again.

[Anonymous No.19053425]

>>19053133
>group reading choice
>it's a later entry in the series of books
Why do you do this?

[Anonymous No.19053452]

Now that Bakker is confirmed dead who is the king of /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.19053468]

>>19052910
I just received this. I'm not very fond of fanfics, bur for less than 6 USD I had to give it a try.

[Anonymous No.19053501]

>>19053425
S T A N D A L O N E

[Anonymous No.19053523]

>>19053241
I'm kind of thinking Bayaz sent him to die. There's no way he didnt expect that along with Glotka being the weaver. He wrote the union off and decided to rebuild up north and with the teenager boy he's been grooming to become a warrior king/emperor . He's going to turn the North into what the union and old empire used to be at the height of their power with the boy and hilda. I liked the book but the age of madness trilogy is definitely weaker than the first law. I wish Joe wraps it up in one more trilogy then doesnt come back to it.

[Anonymous No.19053586]

>>19053294
>that's sad
What's sad is that he's seething about imaginary troons

[Anonymous No.19053672]

>>19053468
Read it, bitch.

[Anonymous No.19053843]

>>19053672
Never!

[Anonymous No.19054290]

just finished Roadside Picnic. the dialogue was very strange at first, maybe because it was translated from russian? i got used to it quick though. the bizarre artifacts were really well presented, very spooky and at the start of the book it was the stuff that stood out the most, but once you get to that final section and Red's development really kick in it kind of took over the book. really great

[Anonymous No.19054382]

>>19053073
Sovless

[Anonymous No.19054608]

>>19052943
on a serious note: is this any good?

[Anonymous No.19054824]

>>19054608
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.19054843]

>>19054824
presentation aside how good is the actual book? you dont judge a book by it's cover.

[Anonymous No.19054922]

>>19054608
some anon posted parts of it and its actually good, you can pirate it off zlibrary

[Anonymous No.19055261]

Do you guys have any rare editions of your favorite books?

[Anonymous No.19055307]

fantasy threads are always boring because most fantasy is just the same old cliched barfed up.

[Anonymous No.19055348]

>>19055261
I have some advance copies of the Maximum Ride series that I got as a kid. Do those count? It isn't really a favorite series of mine though. I think I outgrew it before Patterson finished it so I don't even know what happened in the end. Everything else I own is a mass produced paper back or a pirated epub.

[Anonymous No.19055376]

>>19055261
that's cool, really great cover art.
no clue how rare it s but my dad gave me his big harper collins hardcover of lord of the rings, filled with alan lee art. it's definitely the coolest book i have

[Anonymous No.19055416]

>>19052919
>>19052910
I made a thread here a little before the bump limit so fuck with the anime OP and he made the same message. The way to fight degeneracy is to make a thread before bump limit. Get fucked tranny anime faggot

[Anonymous No.19055433]

>>19055416
yeah you get him dude

[Anonymous No.19055507]

>>19055261
>first edition hardcovers of the Clark Ashton Smith reprints by Night Shade are +$100 apiece
I really want the hardcovers because I think those dust-jackets are fucking horrible and they'll hold their value for a long time, but damn, buying the whole set will cost upwards of $600

[Anonymous No.19055525]

>>19055433
keep seething troon

[Anonymous No.19055531]

>>19055525
you got me. so proud of you

[Anonymous No.19055558]

Is the entire Solar Cycle series as good as BoTNS? I'm a good way thru Shadow of the Torturer, thinking about getting Litany of the Long Sun but I might just wait until I finish the first part of the series

I got the mass market copy of Urth of the New Sun, I don't like the size of the book(I can be a sperg when it comes to print/page size/covers, don't judge the book by them but I definitely have preferences)

[Anonymous No.19055574]

>>19055261
not sure how rare but I have a copy of Number of the Beast that my mom used to own. It had a coupon as a bookmark that expired in 1980

she used to have older versions of LoTR and Dune, unfortunately they've most likely been lost in between the many moves and purges of stuff

pic related

[Anonymous No.19055583]

>>19055416
Christ, why do you keep seething about imaginary troons?

[Anonymous No.19055617]

I read this a few months back and it was the biggest literary letdown of my life

[Anonymous No.19055621]

Jolenta was asking for the dick

[Anonymous No.19055630]

>>19055261
I have a first edition of the Silmarillion. It's not in great condition, but it's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.19055631]

>>19055261
I've got signed copies of thomas the tank engine

[Anonymous No.19055641]

>>19055617
was planning on reading these soon, what didn't you like?

[Anonymous No.19055672]

Not sure if it's the right thread for this but does anyone have any recommendations for steampunk airship type settings? I was looking for something like Drifting Dragons after reading the manga where it's about a crew of misfits trying to make ends meat and really enjoyed the airship aesthetic. Now that I'm thinking about it, something like Firefly might be good as well. Different settings but similar westernish themes about a crew on the frontier in a flying deathtrap they are trying to keep running.

[Anonymous No.19055762]

>>19055261
I have a 1977 first edition hardback of The Silmarillion, with a large fold out map. It's not particularly rare though, they made a lot of them. I do own a number of out of print editions of other books as well, but it'll take many years for them to be worth much, right now they're only worth about 2-3 times an ordinary paperback.

[Anonymous No.19055796]

Well the year is about to end, and it seems like E William Brown isn't going to put out shit. So likely he will die before doing another Daniel Black book. Sad!

[Anonymous No.19055813]

>>19055531
So, what's his problem?

[Anonymous No.19055827]

>>19055617
They are good what was your issue with it? they firs volume is by far the weakest, ratter than disappointing i would say it has a very mediocre start.

[Anonymous No.19055842]

>>19055796
Surely he can last another year anon

[Anonymous No.19055847]

>>19055672
Black Leviathan - Moby Dick on an airship
Steal the Sky - Can't remember too much but it's very airship based
Bullet Catcher's Daughter - Steampunk setting, starts of very mundane but has all kinds of crazy shit especially in the second trilogy.
Monarch of Evernight - this is an insanely long chinese webnovel that eventually falls off but it has some very high highs in the earlier chapters. Kind of a fusion between steampunk and a humans vs vampires vs werewolves setting
Lord of the Mysteries - another chinese webnovel, takes a while to get going but it's really good
Merchant Princes - Almost no steampunk in book 1 but it eventually reveals itself to be really focused on importing real world concepts into a steampunk world.

[Anonymous No.19055878]

>>19055261
Don't know if it's rare, but my grandmother left me a hardcover copy of a Jules Verne book from the 1920's.

[Anonymous No.19055885]

>>19055847
Thanks anon Black Leviathan and Steal the Sky seem right up my alley from the blurbs.

I should clarify that I'm not too attached to steampunk that the setting has to include it. I just couldn't think of another way an author would make airships fly. Magic/magitech type stuff is cool too.

[Anonymous No.19056003]

>>19055641
They are astoundingly long and plodding without satisfying plotting to go along with it. The plot essentially does not move until halfway through the third book.
Most of the characters are obnoxiously despicable, stupid, or both.
The author has no sense of scale - there seems to be a worldwide human population of less than 15000 people and have been suffering a multi-year long winter with no food whatsoever.
The entire motivations of the bad guys remain utterly inscrutable even to the end of the final book, they remain unexplained, and the ultimate bad guy essentially kills himself before doing anything, being defeated with next to no input from the heroes. You never learn what exactly the villains wanted to do, or why, or how they were defeated, they just disappear because the protagonist passed a skill check.
Furthermore, it's an exercise in depressing bleakness and sadism. It's very thorough torture porn, though not to the same puerile level as Game of Thrones.

To top it all off, the author is at work on making a sequel series that explicitly sets out to subvert and destroy what little goodness was achieved in these books.
I cannot recommend against reading them strenuously enough unless you gain pleasure from fictitious misery by perceiving your life as not possibly ever being as bad as that.

[Anonymous No.19056050]

>>19052973
the first Dragonlance books.

[Anonymous No.19056060]

I had seen Wayne Barlowe's hell art for decades, but never bothered to read his actual book until just recently, when I bit the bullet and bought some used copies from Amazon thinking I probably wouldn't like them and could toss em after reading, but they wound up very moving and poignant works that touched my Catholic soul. It's hard to believe that anybody who tips fedoras could show this much knowledge of and respect to Christian soteriology.

>>19053004
read that recently, highly kino
>He rode out on the wold, and it was as if dawn rode with him.

[Anonymous No.19056106]

Where does one start with Thomas M. Disch?

[Anonymous No.19056129]

>>19056106
His first book, how is this a quesion?

[Anonymous No.19056490]

>>19053256
>they call it anime so I went with it,
Pretty sure the anime anon posted a ghost in a shell as the OP image once and people here didn't call it anime. So, I wouldn't used them as a point of refence.

[Anonymous No.19056540]

>>19053062
Im finishing it now, Leo is cringe as always

[Anonymous No.19056568]

Robert E Howard vs Tolkien, who created the better fantasy world in terms of lore and world building?

[Anonymous No.19056597]

>>19056568
>better
Tolkien but that doesn't mean Howard did a bad job

[Anonymous No.19056602]

>>19056568
Tolkien and its not even a contest
I say this as I'm reading through a complete omnibus of every single Robert E Howard work, and as nice as the Hyborian and Thurian ages are, they're simply not on the same scale of quality as the Silmarillion alone, let alone LOTR.

[Anonymous No.19056619]

>>19056568
REH wasn't a retard who fell for the MUH WORLD-BUILDING meme like Tolkien did so it's not even a fair comparison.

[Anonymous No.19056627]

>>19055672
I have Moorcock's Nomad of the Time Streams, haven't got around to reading it yet but I think it fits your bill

[Anonymous No.19056639]

>>19056568
Tolkien channeled the rich English fairy-tale tradition that had been nurtured by authors like George MacDonald and Lord Dunsany, and birthed the Epic Fantasy/High Fantasy genre, while Howard took the historical romance genre and swashbuckling tales from his boyhood, mixed it with his deep love of ancient history, and forged the Sword-and-Sorcery/Low Fantasy genre. They can't really be compared because they are the two tentpoles of modern fantasy literature as we know it today

[Anonymous No.19056648]

>>19056568
The world is the least important part of a fantasy work.

[Anonymous No.19056667]

>>19056568
Although Tolkein did the worldbuilding "better" it doesn't matter to me much, I still prefer reading REH.

[Anonymous No.19056679]

Conan is an example of hard gay literature that isn't trooned, yeah he is straight but he is appealing to non troon based gays like me.

[Anonymous No.19056697]

>>19056679
Nobody gives a shit, stop derailing the fucking thread already.

[Anonymous No.19056732]

I support the anon making the threads before the weeb OP but it's provoking the weeb OP to samefag in a way that is frankly unsettling.

Anyone remember the name of a science fantasy book that starts with the protagonist on a table, captured I think, while the villains use a machine to activate levels of his consciousness one by one?

[Anonymous No.19056751]

>>19053062
>'Delightfully twisted and evil'

[Anonymous No.19056758]

>>19056697
you are a triggered troon

[Anonymous No.19056771]

>>19056568
I'm going to be the outlier here and say that the Hyborian Age is actually the better fantasy world compared to Middle Earth. The Hyborian Age is often underrated, it's more well thought out than people give it credit for, and its kingdoms are just as well thought out as Gondor, Rohan and Mordor. The only thing Middle Earth is objectively better with is the actual languages

[Anonymous No.19056777]

I do find it funny how animefags seethe so fucking hard over everything, but don't do any long form discussions of what they read, in part because it is shit, but also because of how easily mocked the actual text is.

[Anonymous No.19056822]

R. Scott Bakker's work is dominated by a sprawling series informally known as The Second Apocalypse which he began developing while in college in the 1980s. The series was originally planned as a trilogy with the first two books entitled The Prince of Nothing and The Aspect-Emperor. The third book has been referred to as The Book That Shall Not Be Named[3] by Bakker, since the title of this book is considered to be a spoiler for the preceding volumes.

When Bakker began writing the series in the early 2000s, however, he found it necessary to split each of the three novels into its own sub-series to incorporate all of the characters, themes and ideas he wished to explore. Bakker originally conceived of seven books: a trilogy and two duologies. This later shifted to two trilogies and one duology, with the acknowledgment that the third series may also expand to a trilogy.

The Prince of Nothing trilogy was published between 2003 and 2006. It depicts the story of the Holy War launched by the Inrithi kingdoms against the heathen Fanim of the south to recover the holy city of Shimeh for the faithful. During the war, a man named Anasûrimbor Kellhus emerges from obscurity to become an exceptionally powerful and influential figure, and it is discovered that the Consult, an ancient alliance of forces united in their worship of the legendary No-God, a nihilistic force of destruction, are manipulating events to pave the way for the No-God's return to the mortal world, a Second Apocalypse to succeed the First.

The sequel series, the Aspect-Emperor quartet, picks up the story twenty years later with Kellhus leading the united Zaudunyani kingdoms in directly seeking out and confronting the Consult. The first novel in this new series, The Judging Eye, was published in January 2009 and the fourth, The Unholy Consult, was published in July 2017.

[Anonymous No.19056825]

>>19056751
this

[Anonymous No.19056826]

>>19056777
It's hilarious to me you bothered to post your thoughts about this imaginary animetranny boogeyman and their lack of contributions to /sffg/ while also not contributing anything yourself
>inb4 troon
Yeah yeah retards I get it

[Anonymous No.19056833]

>>19056771
whilst true, neither are actually fantasy.
both Conan and LOTR are non-fiction.
and why yes I do own the complete collection of Conan

[Anonymous No.19056839]

>>19056826
keep seething troon

[Anonymous No.19056849]

Bakker experienced his initial rise in popularity, he participated frequently with fans at the now read-only Three-Seas forum. During this time Bakker consistently began to formulate and popularize what would eventually become the foundation for his Blind Brain Theory and Heuristic Neglect Theory then focusing on how studies of human cognitive biases generally and eventually on their impact on academic Philosophy and the greater humanities.

[Anonymous No.19056855]

>>19056826
die tranny

>>19056777
stop talking to/about the tranny just let it go, keep making the threads but don't give him any more attention

[Anonymous No.19056865]

>>19056771
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you but you never actually said why you think Hyborian Age is better. Just why it isn't worse.

[Anonymous No.19056872]

Bakker sources two real world examples concerning illusory consciousness, the inner human experience of temporality and the imperceptible limits of field of vision. In the essay, as in the book via the character Thomas, Bakker argues that the human sense of the "Now," this very moment, might be symptomatic of perceptual thresholds akin to the human inability to perceive beyond the field of vision, certain colours outside within that field, or the perceptual blind spot caused by the lack of receptors in a portion of the back of the eye. Bakker cites the inability of consciousness to experience and perceive but a sliver of all the brain's processing as indicative of consciousness experience being totally illusory, rather than only sometimes in some contexts. As per the world of Neuropath's narrative, Bakker also argues that in time non-invasive brain scanning, via something like the narrative conceit of "low-field fMRI," may result in an entirely new scale of institutional manipulation, moving beyond efforts of associative conditioning given the wealth of data prevalent real-time brain imaging could provide. Finally, central to the essay is Bakker's assertion that the scientific method and its progress would eventually yield unfathomable insights into human behavior and cognition such that the existence of the narrative's villain and his futuristic brain–computer interface are inevitable in real life as well.

[Anonymous No.19056884]

>>19056777
>>19056855
Is everyone who disagrees with you a trannie or something?

[Anonymous No.19056900]

>>19056884
Welcome to /sffg/

[Anonymous No.19057043]

>>19056865
I would just say that the over all civilizational conflict between the Hyborian kingdoms of Mitra and Stygian kingdoms of Set are more complex than the conflicts between Gondor and Mordor.

[Anonymous No.19057086]

>>19052943
Theres a movie like this, whats its name again..?

[Anonymous No.19057147]

>>19056568
I don't think Howard ever set out to world build beyond what was convenient for his stories. Also, most people generally only know Conan, Kull, Solomon Kane and maybe Bran Mak Morn, but Howard wrote a TON of other shit. I don't think he ever had the time to world build as he had to sell his stories to make a living.

[Anonymous No.19057176]

>>19056106
The Genocides is a master piece
or I guess The Brave Little Toaster if you're 5 lol

[Anonymous No.19057194]

>>19057043
At no point in the Howard stories are any of the motives for these conflicts explored beyond Howard's autistic obsession with
>civilization is...le bad!
Ironically the closest thing to an actual motivation for political conflict presented in the Conan stories is Tolkien-esque, namely the fact that Stygia (Mordor) is slave to the dark god Set (Sauron/Morgot) and its supernatural servants (Dragons/Balrogs/Orcs) and has a reductionist anti-everything mentality of wanting to subjugate and destroy the rest of the world, of which Aquilonia (Gondor) and its god Mitra (Eru) is the chief opponent. That's how it is in Black Colossus, The Phoenix on the Sword, and The Scarlet Citadel, and several others.
In the rest of the stories, any pretentions to political conflict are purely MacGuffins meant to justify scenes with Conan turning darkies into hamburger, kissing half-naked women, and getting spooked by giant snakes.

[Anonymous No.19057205]

Howard kinda sucks outside of immediate "this was a fun story to read" reactions desu.
I'm not trying to judge a pulp writer for spamming out disposable fun but it does make me question why some people here are so desperate to see his stuff reassessed as the peak of fantasy

[Anonymous No.19057221]

>>19056777
checked and based

[Anonymous No.19057258]

Finished this thing today.
Probably the most Reddit book I've ever read, 2012/2013 Reddit
I enjoyed it but I wouldn't recommend this to anyone else, unless you're looking for some cringe about mainstream stereotypes of nerds LARPing as wizards

[Anonymous No.19057264]

>>19057258
Didn't ask.

[Anonymous No.19057270]

>>19057264
And yet, here you are, replying to me
Check-mate, faggot

[Anonymous No.19057275]

>>19057258
>mainstream stereotypes of nerds LARPing as wizards
You've piqued my interest

[Anonymous No.19057276]

>>19057205
I like Howard but I agree; he is definitely the peak of pulpy fantasy, and played a foundational role in the establishing of modern fantasy, but S.T. Joshi (who absolutely adores and is the foremost scholar concerning H.P. Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith) even said that his stories don't have much merit outside of being historically important for the fantasy genre

[Anonymous No.19057286]

>>19057276
>but S.T. Joshi (who absolutely adores and is the foremost scholar concerning H.P. Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith) even said that his stories don't have much merit
Stopped reading. Nobody but insecure pretentious blowhards give a shit about merits.

[Anonymous No.19057292]

>>19057275
Well if you want to read a book about a bunch of retarded (socially and mentally) nerds/virgins abusing the laws of physics via programming, then this is the cringe for you

[Anonymous No.19057570]

>>19057286
but the entire point of the argument was merit, vis-a-vis Tolkien

[Anonymous No.19057637]

>>19057570
"Merit" is a matter of opinion. The same shit that retard Joshi said about REH could be applied to Lovecraft.

[Anonymous No.19057791]

>>19057194
Yeah dude, those are the four most heavy and lore significant Conan stories there are, and they build a mythological prehistory foundation for the historical rivalry between Europe and the Middle East

[Anonymous No.19058096]

>>19055558
It peaks with New Sun but the rest is still worth reading, especially Short Sun.

[Anonymous No.19058105]

Is there any urban fantasy that isn't either thinly veiled romance or detective stories where the seemingly unremarkable protagonist quickly becomes insanely powerful?

[Anonymous No.19058124]

>>19053062

[Anonymous No.19058134]

>>19055574
I have that same copy.

[Anonymous No.19058138]

>>19056568
I prefer REH.

[Anonymous No.19058146]

>>19057194
>civilization is...le bad!
That basically sums up all of human history.

[Anonymous No.19058155]

>>19056003
sounds like you're describing The First Law

[Anonymous No.19058174]

When does the next Sanderson kino come out?

[Anonymous No.19058188]

>>19055672
pretty sure a china mieville baslag series book is about this

[Anonymous No.19058192]

Thoughts? The only chapters I liked on this trilogy were Orso, Calder, Zuri and Clover And two of them die in the end.

Vick was okay but Savine, Leo and Rikke are all pretty unlikable. I hope the new trilogy introduces more likable characters.

Zuri is my waifu.

[Anonymous No.19058213]

Thoughts? The only characters I liked on this trilogy were Orso, Calder, Zuri and Clover. And two of them die in the end.

Vick was okay but Savine, Leo and Rikke are all pretty unlikable. I hope the new trilogy introduces more likable characters.

Zuri is my waifu.

[Anonymous No.19058215]

>>19058155
It's entirely possible that I am even though I never read it, but the same complaints apply to Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn. I also hear that the same complaints apply to The Sword of Stars and The Wheel of Time, but I also hear that WoT actually has a satisfying payoff at the end, though I haven't read that series and can't be certain.

[Anonymous No.19058238]

I've been reading this recently. Kinda fun to see the inspiration for STALKER, and you can tell the book is Russian because everyone is an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.19058245]

>>19058138
Based.

[Anonymous No.19058255]

>>19058213
>>19056751

[Anonymous No.19058355]

Dislike novels, but enjoy sci fi and after it was recommended by my s.o. I started reading Dune a couple weeks ago.
Just started the third part of the book. I enjoyed the first part a lot and think it was very enjoyable. The second part, tho... jesus what a drag. The only parts I liked were those with the Harkonnens. The rest, where it deals with Paul and his mother escaping thru the desert and then in the Fremen hideout, was incredibly boring.
Hopefully the third part is better and more like the first.
Should I buy the second book now or wait till I finish this one first?

[Anonymous No.19058369]

Think I'll just read westernized xianxia from here on out

[Anonymous No.19058380]

>>19058369
Like what?

[Anonymous No.19058382]

>>19058369
read soulhome yet?

[Anonymous No.19058401]

>>19058255
I agree it isn't the greatest fantasy series of all time but the genre is pretty dead. Do you have any better recommendations? I've already read Second Apocalypse, Black Company and BotNS.

[Anonymous No.19058410]

>>19058401
Snakewood and everything else by Selby

[Anonymous No.19058413]

>>19058410
I'll check it out, thanks.

[Anonymous No.19058442]

>>19058401
>but the genre is pretty dead
It is if all you're reading is grimderp epic fantasy. That is a thoroughly dead genre. Read Lords of Dyscrasia for some very dark fantasy that isn't generic grimderp.

[Anonymous No.19058466]

>>19056060
>muh soulbricks

[Anonymous No.19058508]

>>19055617
I read it a few years back. It’s so slow. took me months to finish the first novel. Makes me cringe looking back on it now.

[Anonymous No.19058556]

>>19052910
Based OP making weebtannies seethe

[Anonymous No.19058572]

>>19053586
what's sad is you replying to yourself troon

[Anonymous No.19058593]

>>19056619
but he was the retard who fell for the MUH MOMMY meme so he blew his brains out like a faggot

[Anonymous No.19058595]

>>19058146
you can go to the woods right now dipshit

[Anonymous No.19058601]

>>19058593
All the best creators kill themselves.

[Anonymous No.19058609]

>>19058601
nice cope

[Anonymous No.19058616]

>>19058609
>nice cope

[Anonymous No.19058648]

>>19056568
In any case REH was far more based

>Howard displayed eccentric behavior, such as: having his pants hemmed short so he would not trip in a potential fight; carrying a gun in his car in case of enemies; shouting stories as he wrote them; dressing oddly for the time and place, including a large moustache and sombrero; shadow-boxing as he walked down the street. At the time, Novalyne Price told her roommate, "He’s trying to tell people he’s a writer and writers have a right to be odd. Since they think he’s crazy, anyway, he’ll show them just how crazy he can be." In the wake of his break-up with Novalyne Price, Howard's behavior became increasing eccentric. On one occasion, having taken Novalyne to a drug store for a soda, he loudly and publicly re-told his story "Red Nails." He changed his appearance and grew a large, drooping mustache. Later he began to wear about town a black sombrero with red bandana and black vaquero pants

[Anonymous No.19058659]

>>19058648
kek, no wonder him and Lovecraft were friends, they were both massive spergs

[Anonymous No.19058712]

>>19058659
Just like you, anon.

[Anonymous No.19058745]

>>19053129
>normal people use 4chan bro
>there are not autist here bro
>why would someone keep posting about the same thing over and over gain?
>thats so weird you would think that happens bro
>not board culture at all!

[Anonymous No.19058768]

Just finished "Dragon's Egg". I haven't dabbled much in hard science fiction but I really enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.19058807]

>>19052973
David Eddings books like the Belgariad maybe?

[Anonymous No.19058824]

>>19056648
Agreed. The modern obsession with world building is a crutch that publishers use to sell bad novels.

[Anonymous No.19059338]

>>19058595
Can we?

[Anonymous No.19059343]

>>19052973
Drenai.

[Anonymous No.19059459]

>>19058355
enjoy Messiah and holdout through Children so you can get to one of the best books ever written in God Emperor

[Anonymous No.19059667]

>>19055672
>he reads Drifting Dragons
Based and Kuwabara-pilled. That series deserves more attention. Fuck the recent adaptation though.

[Anonymous No.19060254]

Started Malazan last summer, currently halfway through Reapers Gale. Planning on going through the Esselmont books after Crippled God. Any recommendations for a series to start next? I went back and read the latest Stormlight book last month and could barely make it through after getting so used to Eriksons style. Any other series similar in complexity and style?

[Anonymous No.19060281]

>>19060254
Have you read Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy?

[Anonymous No.19060308]

>>19060281
No, just recently started reading fantasy with Sanderson. Way of Kings made me go back and read his other cosmere books and then Wheel of Time before stumbling into Malazan. Not the first time someone’s recommended First Law. I’ll check it out. Thank you

[Anonymous No.19060324]

>>19058824
I wish for a Fantasy novel that just doesn't huff its own farts with World-Building. One that just unfolds as characters move through it instead of just going on about ninjutsu or some shit. Conan comes close, and Tolkien's worldbuilding at least follows the mythic tradition and doesn't rob his own world of its mystery like that sex-obsessed hack Rothfuss or that blob Martin.

[Anonymous No.19060327]

>>19060308
I recommend checking out The Lies of Locke Lamora as well. Just don't bother with the sequels.

I also recently read the last Stormlight Archive book after reading the whole Malazan series. It was definitely pretty jarring. Especially due to the massive filler bloat in the last book, what the fuck was that?

[Anonymous No.19060376]

>>19060324
Prince of Nothing does this pretty well i think. the world details are weaved into the the story naturally as the characters go about their business and you're mostly left to piece it together and get a feel for it. there's a lot of name dropping though, if that's something you find tedious. enjoyable books though

[Anonymous No.19060397]

>>19058616
>n-no u

[Anonymous No.19060418]

>>19060376
I don't know if I would find that tedious. There's a lot of name dropping in conventional fiction and in real life which Just a consequence of human communication, but I'll give it a looksee

[Anonymous No.19060421]

>>19060324
I think First Law has pretty minimalistic, but effective worldbuilding
The focus is definitely on the characters, especially in the standalones and the second trilogy where magic hardly plays any role at all

[Anonymous No.19060452]

[Anonymous No.19060462]

>>19060421
What Game of Thrones got is what The First Law deserved. Compared to Joe, Martin isn't even a writer but some kind of prehistoric hominid someone thawed out of the ice to get diabetes and fudge a book series.

[Anonymous No.19060635]

Are there any exotic setting you'd like to see for fantasy?

[Anonymous No.19060659]

The Second Apocalypse

[Anonymous No.19060787]

>>19060452
People don't dislike cyberpunk because it is decadent, they dislike it because it’s an unenjoyable aesthetic with nothing to say.

[Anonymous No.19060808]

>>19060787
What are you talking about, people love the cyberpunk aesthetic, it's the second part of your statement that's the reason people completely disregard the cyberpunk genre out of hand after a few seconds staring at the pretty cyberpunk picture. 100% of cyberpunk stories are absolutely identical to one another in their postmodern midwit reductionist anti-capitalism philosophy. They never have anything to say other than
>greed and robots are...le bad!

[Anonymous No.19060822]

>women and vagina are... le sjw

>hard gays and cock are.. le based

[Anonymous No.19060829]

>>19060808
I'm talking about the people who don't like it, not all people, ever. I don't even mind 'le future...bad!', but the neon aesthetic is too pretentious for me. It’s like those kids that spend £350 on a jacket designed to look punky and torn up.

[Anonymous No.19061025]

>>19060829
I don't get how lighting can be pretentious. Cyberpunk was born, partly, out of the 80's economic boom in Japan. The aesthetic is just Tokyo at night.
Cyberpunk books themselves have far more range than this aesthetic however, which is mostly just what visual media settled on.

[Anonymous No.19061257]

>Browsing the Wikipedia article of a given SFF novel published between the early '80s and the mid '90s
>This man's opinion pops up at the end

[Anonymous No.19061285]

>>19060418
He namedrops a ton of places and people that ultimately don't matter, which filters some people who have an OCD drive to memorize everyone as they appear. I think it's a way to make the world feel bigger and alive without actually needing to dump a ton of lore and it accomplished that well for me.

[Anonymous No.19061367]

>The most significant way the Old Ones are identified with human beings is in Dyer's historical digression, specifically in regard to the Old Ones' social and economic organization. In many ways they represent a utopia toward which HPL hoped humanity could aspire. The sentence "Government was evidently complex and probably socialistic" establishes that HPL had himself by this time converted to moderate socialism. The Old Ones' civilization is founded upon slavery of a sort, and there is some suggestion that the condition of the shoggoths might, in part, resemble that of African Americans. The exhaustive history of the Old Ones on this planet, portraying their rise and fall, suggests HPL's absorption of Oswald Spengler's The Decline of the West, with its similar emphasis on the inexorable rise and fall of successive civilizations.
>In terms of HPL's work, the novel makes explicit what has been evident all along-most of the "gods" of his mythology are merely extraterrestrials and that their followers (including the authors of the books of occult lore to which reference is so frequently made by HPL and others) are mistaken as to their true nature. Robert M. Price, who first noted this "demythologizing" feature in HPL, has pointed out that At the Mountains of Madness does not make any radical break in this pattern, but it does emphasize the point more clearly than elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.19061379]

>>19060787
the 80s were a different time

[Anonymous No.19061506]

The dilemma present in A Song Ice and Fire that I've always found interesting is that there are various abusive government/cultural forces that people would be happier without BUT they are excellent tools for militarizing a people. The Free Folk do not have to bend the knee to a lord, BUT they are much weaker compared to the controlled, ordered, directed military of Stannis/the 7 Kingdoms. The Lhazareen are kind and gentle, like the pacifying character of Jesus/The Great Shepard, BUT they are regularly brutalized by the patriarchal Dothraki. Yes the Dothraki are cruel and abusive, BUT their system keeps them strong and enduring as a people.
So, what do you think George will say about this? Will Dragons (technology) be the answer for how pluralistic society can over come the raw power of warrior men culture? Is it possible he will make a point about how pluralism can weaken a nation, and invite a warrior man culture to dominate it? It is possible this pluralistic movement is in fact part of the intentional undermining of a nation's warrior men, softening and preparing it for invasion and destruction?
The primary message of A Song of Ice and Fire has always been to me "It is good to be good, but you must be capable of evil, otherwise evil men simply kill you, and brutalize your children, and those you leave behind." This is the lesson we should learn from Ned, who's unwillingness to play the Game, to be ruthless, earned him no honor, did no one any good, and simply left Westeros and his children in horrific circumstance. We can be as Ethically Superior as we want, but if we aren't practical about how we deal with the world, the others win. I think we just witnessed how even with a massive technological advantage the war machine of patriarchy is still a force to be reckoned with, doesn't mean its right, but it is a practical matter to be aware of.

[Anonymous No.19061517]

I Hecking love long form discussion posts

[Anonymous No.19061568]

>>19061506
Where did you steal this post? Google can't find it.

[Anonymous No.19061601]

>>19061568
youtube comments on the latest preston jacobs video
I don't agree with the message of
>"It is good to be good, but you must be capable of evil, otherwise evil men simply kill you, and brutalize your children, and those you leave behind."
Or particularly, the use of the word evil in it. I think 'evil' should be replaced with cruelty, or simply saying "It is good to be good, but you must be capable of accepting that not all things can be settled peacefully and must be settled by force"

[Anonymous No.19061910]

>I am a scholar of the dark history, a librarian of chaos. By my hand are the histories delineated, by my decree are the eras and eons reckoned and re-written

[Anonymous No.19061927]

>>19061910
>best books shoved in the top right corner

[Anonymous No.19061953]

>>19061910
what the FUCK is wrong with warhammer fans

[Anonymous No.19061979]

>>19059667
Yeah Netflix really needs to stop touching but I am hoping the exposure is helping the manga do well so I can get much more of it.

[Anonymous No.19062016]

>>19058382
realised the third book in the series was out right after I posted this and I read it today.
Still really good and you still get the sense of an author who knows exactly where the story is going which is never a guarantee with these western xianxia/progression fantasy books. Amazing how far just having some decent characters and overarching plots and mysteries beyond "I need to get stronger"/"how do I get stronger" can take you.

[Anonymous No.19062031]

>>19061953
no seriously why are there so many books

[Anonymous No.19062142]

>>19060462
Ah piss off, Joe. There has never been a series so plodding and slow, with ridiculously repetitious gum sucking, and a blatant comic book rip-off character repeatedly Hulking out.

[Anonymous No.19062160]

>>19062031
so they can do cool continuous art spines like that

[Anonymous No.19062166]

>>19062142
>and a blatant comic book rip-off character
Well the entire point of the character is that he's a stereotypical beserker hero who can't cope in a more 'realistic' (lol) setting

[Anonymous No.19062216]

>>19062142

[Anonymous No.19062232]

>>19055507
I think I'm gonna take the plunge bros...

[Anonymous No.19062276]

Any gundam like novels out there?
Already have a Battletech trilogy ready to read but always on the lookout for more military sci fi.

[Anonymous No.19062321]

>>19062232
You are retarded.

[Anonymous No.19062331]

[Anonymous No.19062350]

>>19062276
starship troopers is the closest I can think of with the power armor

looking up stuff in that vein is prob your best bet

[Anonymous No.19062475]

Do you guys ever read authors ajacent to your favorite authors? I started reading Ambrose Bierce's stuff because of his influence on Lovecraft, Jack London because of his influence on Howard, and I've been reading Borges for awhile thanks to Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous No.19062536]

What is the point of this book if it doesn't explain anything? I still don't understand why Paul went through with the whole jihad thing. It doesn't seem like he wanted to do it, but it also doesn't seem like he was able to direct it towards noble purposes or mitigate its negative effects. It also doesn't seem like it was inevitable - if he never lead them, the Fremen would not have been able to conquer the universe. Is it going to be explained in the next book?

Also this edition is the worst product released by a real publishing house I have ever seen. Multiple typos in every chapter, sometimes on one page. Really embarassing, not recommended

[Anonymous No.19062845]

>>19062276
Armor by John Steakley.

[Anonymous No.19062882]

>>19061506
What a wonderful effort post. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.19062889]

>>19062882
He took that comment from somewhere else you know.

[Anonymous No.19062912]

>>19062536
>I still don't understand why Paul went through with the whole jihad thing
when I read it, I saw it as a "path of least resistance" and in the book, Paul contemplates killing himself and his mother in order to spare the world of the misery he will create, but doesn't have the willpower to take his own life.

>>19062889
yea I stated that here >>19061601 along with my own views on the youtube comment, I just thought it deserved discussion beyond just youtube comments. I understand that GRRM is anti-war but all his story has done so far is show the futility of antagonizing oneself against the warrior culture. If he is able to finish his series he might be able to present the solution, but "dragons" are a substitute for nuclear weapons in the story and I don't think a hippie like George is going to suddenly come out in his magnum opus as pro-nuclear weapons

[Anonymous No.19062939]

>>19062889
Yes, and? I wouldn't have seen it otherwise.

[Anonymous No.19062960]

>>19062939
>Yes, and?
It ain't effortposting.

[Anonymous No.19062999]

>>19060462
Joe is YA writer compared to Martin lmao

[Anonymous No.19063062]

Convince me to read Dune.
I've been putting it off for years now.

[Anonymous No.19063084]

>>19063062
When the movie comes out all your coworkers will be talking about it but if you read it you can be a snob and spoil it for them

[Anonymous No.19063215]

>>19062475
Read some Harold Lamb. He was a huge influence on REH too.

[Anonymous No.19063228]

>>19060397
>>n-no u

[Anonymous No.19063252]

>Between women and men, women possess the lesser soul. Whenever the Eye opens, she glimpses the fact of this, the demand that women yield to the requirements of men, so long as those demands be righteous. To bear sons. To lower her gaze. To provide succor. The place of the woman is to give. So it has always been, since Omrain first climbed nude from the dust and bathed in the wind.
oh no no no

[Anonymous No.19063299]

>>19063252
oh brap brap brap

[Anonymous No.19063477]

>>19062276
Steel frame but it was a DNF for me
Abnett has a 40k mech book

[Anonymous No.19063484]

>>19062276
Oh and its weird biotech rather than traditional mech but cry pilot is actually good

[Anonymous No.19063494]

Rec me a short story

[Anonymous No.19063502]

>>19063494
How about you do it yourself.

[Anonymous No.19063541]

>>19063494
The Ash Tree by M. R. James.

[Anonymous No.19063553]

>>19063494
The Last Scream of Carnage by Phil Emery. Very stylistic S&S story.

[Anonymous No.19063576]

>>19063494
Novelty - Crowley

[Anonymous No.19063591]

>>19063502
I've already read all the books I could give a first-hand recommendation someone read

[Anonymous No.19063805]

>>19063591
Yes, and? How would you recommend them if you haven't read them?

[Anonymous No.19064004]

>>19063252
Hello based department

[Anonymous No.19064050]

Gonna start a new sub-genre called 'femdark' with stories about women who think they're just as strong and capable as men getting easily or brutally killed in typical heroic fantasy situations.

[Anonymous No.19064082]

Gonna start a new sub-genre called 'hard gay' with stories about non SJW men raping each other and having poopa on there dicks after passing out.

[Anonymous No.19064090]

>>19064082
You just can't let a nigga shine can you?

[Anonymous No.19064095]

Gonna start a new sub-genre called 'about damn time' where I blow my fucking brains out, holy shit I hate this place.

[Anonymous No.19064121]

>>19062536
The reason, to me, that Paul still enacted the jihad in expanding his Imperium was that, at the end of Dune once he established himself as the new emperor, he could see no other Path to follow and still rule. His goal, after his oracular powers truly emerged at end of book 1, was to seek vengeance and gain strength living amidst the Fremen. Near the start of book 3, he adjusted his motivation to turn all his newfound strength with his powers, with being Muad'Dib amongst the Fremen, and with his desire for vengeance, into taking over the planet from the Harkonnens. He then faced the opportune moment to overthrow the emperor, and swiftly acted- the irony was that Paul in his all powerful prescience, surrounded by all powerful warriors he has inspired, can't truly fathom what he would do in a totalitarian position, not understanding the ideology of the Fremen that he used to gain power. He so badly wanted to avoid the path towards Jihad, but wanting justice for the Fremen and himself without completely adopting Fremen customs (i.e. not traditionally slaying Stilgar in combat), he assumes the throne regardless.

Herbert links these two topics, the idea of freewill if can coexist with prescience, and how human civilization, in its ever-present struggle against the chaotic natural world, is always being shaped by ideology. As >>19062912 said, Paul ends up following the Path of least resistance, its the best he can do as emperor which still results millions dying. Paul muses on this several times throughout Messiah, that he thinks if he was blind from his oracular vision, maybe he would have the freewill to not somehow aid the Jihad, which according to his prescience, would always happen once he became Emperor. Likewise, assuming power without understanding Fremen customs and ideology, Fremen leaders eventually conspire to kill him- his hero status as an omnipotent being is fated to commit a galaxy-wide tragedy, and his power is predestined to come crumbling down once gained.

Finally, I think the "point" of Messiah is to complete Paul's arc. Upon becoming blind to his oracular vision once the twins are born, and essentially knowing Chani's death and the conspirator's plans are imminent, Paul is once again free to make a choice and exercise freewill. He choses resoundingly to fall on Fremen customs- give Chani's body to the sietch for her water to be reclaimed, opposed to becoming a ghola, and for him to sacrifice himself as a blind man, giving himself to the desert. Maybe this could be interpreted as communitarianism ultimately triumphing over near-sighted individualism, I don't really know the full scope of Dune having not read Children or God Emperor yet, though I plan to, but Messiah at least completes Paul's character arc, make of it what you will

[Anonymous No.19064122]

Why don't you start a new genre of post where you actually read a book and then post about it

[Anonymous No.19064216]

>>19064122
I post about every book I finish.

[Anonymous No.19064228]

Gonna start a new sub-genre called 'troondark' where a troon jerk off in a dark room and cooms.

[Anonymous No.19064259]

>>19064122
It happens all the time in every thread. But we aren't reading the same things so discussion is limited and most people who post about what they just read don't get any replies. Honestly we need to do a weekly book club where we all read the same thing like bored married women in their 40s to save this place.

[Anonymous No.19064262]

>>19064259
We have a book club but it barely got any discussion and autistic fights over who runs it immediately took it out of the thread.

Also they're currently doing the fucking 6th book in a series so there's obviously gonna be limited engagement

[Anonymous No.19064276]

>>19064262
Did they start with the first five at least?

[Anonymous No.19064283]

>>19064276
no

[Anonymous No.19064598]

>>19058380
Defiance of the fall, cradle, savage divinity

[Anonymous No.19064612]

>>19058382
No. I didn't like street cultivation much. Rigid magic systems aren't as interesting as really abstract daoist nonsense

[Anonymous No.19064643]

>>19064262
>autistic fights over who runs it
literally no one else wants to run it, it's been discord from the (new) start

[Anonymous No.19064815]

>>19064612
It's a bit more abstract than street cultivation was, the "system" is about building magic houses inside your soul with each floor being a power level. Not really more concrete than anything cradle does

[Anonymous No.19064989]

>>19056568
>Robert E Howard
Literally fucking who?

[Anonymous No.19065024]

>>19064643
>>19064276
>>19064283
Technically it isn't a book club. It's just what the guy wants to read and others can join in or not.

[Anonymous No.19065093]

>>19065024
We know, I'm pretty sure he was told to fuck off plenty of times, but for whatever reason he keeps posting his blub or whatever here.

[Anonymous No.19065101]

>>19064989
Troll.
>>19056568
REH.

[Anonymous No.19065107]

What about a less official book club where we just vote on a new book to stick in the OP every week and then every OP for the next week includes the book title and a plot hook? Then it might just passively sway people into reading and posting about it rather than expecting people to keep up with a book club. At the very least it would give us something to argue about every week when we vote on the next

[Anonymous No.19065114]

>>19065107
No.

[Anonymous No.19065182]

>>19065107
You should come here to find out random tidbits and recommendations, not for a proper social experience like a book club. Just join one at your library.

[Anonymous No.19065189]

>>19065182
I wasn't looking for a social experience. Just trying to offer ideas to encourage on-topic posting in the future

[Anonymous No.19065197]

>>19065189
just talk about non troons and sjw globohomo-free political based books like Prince of Nothing

[Anonymous No.19065213]

King of the Book Club

[Anonymous No.19065217]

Why was Howard so based bros?

[Anonymous No.19065361]

>>19065217
because he likes the Hard Gay Aesthetic, he is non sjw non troon and globohomo-free, he appreciates a hunky dude with a hard cock and hard attitude

[Anonymous No.19065373]

>>19065361
You need to seek some serious mental help.

[Anonymous No.19065381]

>>19056568
Tolkien because his is actually a coherent constructed world. REH was a great fantasist though. He didn't do the whole constructed world thing that Tolkien did, he sort of cultivated his setting and expanded on it as needed.

[Anonymous No.19065386]

>>19065373
that is the true reason, refute it if you can

[Anonymous No.19065390]

>>19065386
You've been on and on about homosexual shit, seek some help

[Anonymous No.19065410]

>>19065390
Conan is truly hard, as a hard gay who enjoys hard things, I like Conan for his aesthetic hard body and his brutish hard attitude. its obvious who is the target audience is, its hard gay who are non sjw and are anti troons.

[Anonymous No.19065424]

So does anyone know what's the gay anon's issues.

[Anonymous No.19065433]

didn't refute it, because its true

[Anonymous No.19065438]

>>19065424
Repressed homosexual and homofascist

[Anonymous No.19065440]

>>19065024
>reading group where people read books and discuss together
>not a book club
ok dude

[Anonymous No.19065445]

>>19065438
Yeah, but why is he shitting up the thread/general?

[Anonymous No.19065446]

>>19063494
the men who murdered mohammed

yumpu.com/en/document/read/24349067/alfred-bester-the-men-who-murdered-mohammed

[Anonymous No.19065450]

>>19065445
saying Conan is Hard Gay isn't shitting up a thread anon, it's a discussion.

[Anonymous No.19065462]

>>19065450
Fuck off already.

[Anonymous No.19065486]

>>19064050
That's implied in every decent fantasy book though. The true f*moid's journey is being a rape toy for the entire story and accidentally determining the outcome anyway.

[Anonymous No.19065500]

ew! I hate f*moids, I like guys and dicks!

[Anonymous No.19065505]

>>19065500
So is that all you do now? Waste your time on shitposting?

[Anonymous No.19065509]

>>19065505
Just ignore them and hide their replies.

[Anonymous No.19065513]

>>19065509
Why haven't the mods deleted them or ban that anon?

[Anonymous No.19065521]

>>19065513
Notify them like this.

[Anonymous No.19065524]

>>19065521
Under what though?

[Anonymous No.19065534]

New thread
>>19065531

[Anonymous No.19065535]

>>19065524
Off-topic, also trolling outside of /b/.

[Anonymous No.19065542]

>>19065535
Thanks. Hopefully it will clean up these threads.

[Anonymous No.19066228]

>>19065361
Try elfQuest

[Anonymous No.19066242]

>>19066228
I read ElfQuest after hearing online that Gene Wolfe praised it, it was actually pretty good, would recommend.

[Anonymous No.19066438]

>>19053062
This book unironically made me root for Bayaz.
Leo's a fucking inconsistently written CUNT though. First half of the book he becomes a savvy politician and does all the right things to get to power.
Second half he becomes a whiny brat like he was previously