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A serious book that reveals the metaphysics, symbols, teachings and secrets of Freemasonry?

If possible written by a former high ranking member of the Scottish Rite

>> No.19052240

>>19052235
And Morals and Dogma of Pike is shit.

>> No.19052540

None of the super high up stuff gets leaked very often, and it definitely would never be published.
>former high ranking member of the Scottish Rite
These dudes die as masons, there are no former members such as these.
I had a phase a few years ago where I was obsessed with learning everything I could about freemasonry, I found some html website from former Masons that published a few of the rites and that shit was super weird. Eventually my curiosity died out when I realized I had found out pretty much everything I could without joining. I firmly believe that the doctrine of freemasonry is pagan devil worship, and that common low level freemasons are either ignorant or willfully blind to the true evils of the organization. I don't take much stock in the conspiracy theories but the fact that there is a freemason flag on the moon says quite a bit

>> No.19052551

>>19052540
Tell me about the Masonic symbolism in the American flag.

>> No.19052563

>>19052540
>I found some html website from former Masons that published a few of the rites and that shit was super weird. Eventually my curiosity died out when I realized I had found out pretty much everything I could without joining
Do u still have links?

>but the fact that there is a freemason flag on the moon says quite a bit
I didn't even know

I am friends with a luciferian master mason (27° Scottish Rite) and we already discuss a lot of symbols and metaphysics, but he clearly claims that the FM is luciferian and gnostic, and I would have liked to know the more classical and official discourse of the lodges inside.

>> No.19052593

>>19052551
You mean the dollar bill?
>>19052563
No I don't have any links. I found the site through a weird rabbithole and I doubt I could find it again. iirc it wasn't an american website or wasn't in English, something like that.
>moon
Buzz Aldrin brought it
>luciferian and gnostic
Your friend is very high up, so of course he is aware. I'm honestly surprised he admits it. Its the people in the blue lodge that don't know what they're getting into. I honestly can't believe how powerful FM is in the United States. Every small town around where I live (populations under 10,000, some in the 1,000 range) has a lodge or a square and compass on the Welcome to Anytown sign. There are even rumors that there is a secret society at the university I went to that is heavily tied to the local lodge in some way.

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>> No.19052649

>>19052593
>I'm honestly surprised he admits it
Yes, he admits a lot, he has already been reprimanded for it, but his high rank allows him to be at ease. On some subjects he is so conspiratorial that I don't believe him at all, but it's interesting to see that even the lodges can discuss this.

I don't know if you followed the management of COVID in France, but he really went crazy. Apparently the French lodges (there are two main ones) were very angry against the president, and orders came from higher up than the FM. He tells me that it stinks, that the elites want to genocide the world's population a bit to "achieve Mastery" and build a New Eden. I don't believe it, it's too big. But in any case in his lodge they all had false vaccination certificates. He tells me that he is against the way the elites operate, but that as he is amoral he cannot say anything. We often debate this. For him my moral considerations are low and still in the realm of duality.

In any case, his metaphysics is fascinating. He was already a luciferian before he joined the FM.

>> No.19052709

>>19052649
How close of friends are you? There is no way he could get that high in the organization if he would talk about FM with someone uninitiated like you. I would take everything he says with a grain of salt and expect that he is lying about a lot of stuff.
The general concensus of conspiracy theorists is that FM intends to function the way that private Central Banks (Federal Reserve, City of London Corp. etc.) do in most western countries: pulling strings behind the scenes and not getting noticed by the average person. Setting up a new eden may be in their doctrine, but I doubt it's something they're actively pursuing. Freemasons have dominated the US's politics since the very beginning with no clear direction or purpose

>> No.19052719

Smells like an /x/ thread

>> No.19052727

>>19052709
>>19052709
>There is no way he could get that high in the organization if he would talk about FM with someone uninitiated like you. I would take everything he says with a grain of salt and expect that he is lying about a lot of stuff.
I've already had his rank confirmed by other Masons, so I know he's not lying about that. But yes, I keep my critical mind, and I don't really believe all his conspiracy talk, even though I think he is sincere and not lying to me. It's still interesting. In my defence, I'm quite advanced in metaphysical theory, and we're mostly discussing that.

>Setting up a new eden may be in their doctrine, but I doubt it's something they're actively pursuing
No for this New Eden project, depopulation, and all that's going on right now, he tells me it's coming from "higher than FM".

However, he is convinced that we are living in the End Times and that the Reign of the Antichrist will come in our lifetime. He is aware that there will be a final twist against them and the evil empire. I asked him why he stayed a Mason knowing this, he said that "everyone has to play their part". Again his amoral view of things I guess

>> No.19052761

It's a shame the only options to find Hermetic Homies are the Freemasons or neo-Martinist orders. One is rootless and a potential charade, joing the other is immediate failure

>> No.19052769

>>19052761
Maybe Aurum Solis?
But it seems that they have become degenerate leftists, idk

>> No.19052777

>>19052769
It's a real conundrum, isn't it?
My worst case scenario plan is to just amass a library on the Christian-Hermetic canon, begin notes, and introduce any potential children I have to it when they're old enough, like how my grandfather did me.

>> No.19052782

>>19052598
I've only read a couple but theyre definitely occultish enough.

>> No.19052796

>>19052777
Maybe this will interest you:
http://www.sofiatopia.org/maat/ten_keys.htm
http://www.sofiatopia.org/equiaeon/emerald.htm
But why do you care so much about Hermeticism?

>> No.19052811

>>19052796
I've heard of this, thanks for the reminder
A sort've inheritance to it aside, call it a religious experience conducive to it when I first studied the Hermetica.
I could go into detail if you'd like, but it is what I stake faith in.

>> No.19052821

>>19052235
On The Masons And Their Lies

>> No.19052832

>>19052821
lol

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>>19052821
>On The Masons And Their Lies

>> No.19052847

>>19052777
>Christian-Hermetic
Pick one.

>>19052811
>it is what I stake faith in
You will be very disappointed in that case when Christ arrives.

>> No.19052863

>>19052847
What are your thoughts on say, Boehme, Ogden, or the ideas present within Martinism?
Or of the Platonic and Aristotelean philosophies that were Christianized properly into the western canon?
My outlook is that of the natural philosophers, Christian Hermeticism is the most useful shorthand

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>>19052235
Diverse topics approached by Guenon(who was a freemason for a certain time and remained interested in Freemasonry all of his life), some of his views are critical.
Maybe you could also try Oswald Wirth, I never read him but I know that he was a freemason with a more "traditionalist" approach.
>If possible written by a former high ranking member of the Scottish Rite
There are high ranking masons who have no idea of what Freemasonry truly is.

>> No.19052900

>>19052863
>Boehme, Ogden, or the ideas present within Martinism
I think they are completely damaging to your salvation.
> Platonic and Aristotelean philosophies
Useful to learn about if you are interested in philosophy and already have a firm grounding in a sacramental Christian life. Useless or even harmful otherwise. Stick to patristic philosophy (St. Dionysius, St. Maximus the Confessor), since the Fathers have already done the job of removing everything harmful from pagan philosophy and making it suit their needs of explicating God as He is revealed to us in Christ.
>Christian Hermeticism
Just do straight up pagan philosophy if you do not believe in Christ. At least this way you won't be condemned for distorting the Gospel.

>> No.19052915

>>19052900
I absolutely believe in Christ, and that he bled upon the cross for the salvation of man.
I must leave here soon, but thank you very much for your recs. I wish you a good night, Anon.

>> No.19052947

>>19052727
I believed you that he had that rank, I meant that someone that high up would not reveal secrets to uninitiateds.
>everyone has to play their part
Sounds like this guy is bullshitting you, and he's definitely a memer

>> No.19052955

>>19052598
No shit. They’re by glowies. /x/ figured this out months ago.

>> No.19052967
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>>19052915
Okay anon, I also recommend very much St. John of Damascus' book for a comprehensive overview of what the Early Church actually believed about Christ.
He also has chapters about philosophy in his "Fountain of Wisdom".