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>Fucks every woman in Rome
>"Sex is... LE BAD"

>> No.19041135

>>19041119
he didn't say sex is bad retard

>> No.19041137

Yes, he had a great deal of experience with the matter and knew what he was talking about.

>> No.19041171

>>19041119
It’s called repentance, and it’s beautiful

>> No.19041180

>>19041119
Fuck this guy for destroying Western civilisation with his sexual neuroses

>> No.19041218

>>19041180
Sexual neuroses is an important part of every civilization. Its just that the neuroses displays itself differently. Its part of wider societal norms.

>> No.19041231

>>19041119
Yeah, so you know he must be telling the truth

>> No.19041244
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> DON'T have sex incel.

>> No.19041264

>>19041180
t. yehud

>> No.19041265

Good thing his people will get genocided and he will be forever forgotten

>> No.19041291

>>19041135
He actually did.

>> No.19041321

>>19041264
Augustine got his sexual neuroses from the Jews who opposed (based) Greek mores around sex.

>> No.19041324

>>19041265
The Africans are going to get genocided? Geez, we should stop this right now.

>> No.19041337

>>19041321
(based) Greek mores around sex where a product of the later decedent period of Greek polities.

>> No.19041350

>>19041337
>the athens of pericles was decadent
The decadent period of Greek civilization was the one where Judeo-Christian ethics begin to be introduced

>> No.19041398

>babies are evil because they cry for attention
Original sin is fucking retarded

>> No.19041501

>>19041119
Milhouse is not a meme.

>> No.19041518

>>19041350
yes, that was a continuation of that decadence, I agree. Although it was already there. The christian greeks were even passively ok with gays.

>> No.19041529
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>>19041119
>Do heroin
>It ruins your life
>Try to warn others about the dangers of heroin
>They call you a hypocrite

>> No.19041546

>>19041529
>fucking my gf and having a son with her is as bad as shooting heroin into my balls

>> No.19041551

>>19041546
>heroin rots your body
>promiscuous sex rots your soul
it's even worse

>> No.19041557

>>19041551
Holy mother of cope

>> No.19041563
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>Holy mother of cope

>> No.19041584

>>19041551
No I think heroin abuse would rot your soul a lot more than a creampie

>> No.19041589

>>19041551
>Go forth and multiply.

>> No.19041599

>>19041589
marital sex for the purpose of procreation =/= promiscuity

>> No.19041603

>>19041589
yes, with your WIFE. fucking coombrain

>> No.19041609

He didn't have the foresight to know the damage he'd do until he'd done it.

>> No.19041627

>>19041599
>>19041603
source?

>> No.19041633

>>19041609
So if he didn’t have even basic foresight, why the fuck should I take him seriously as a philosopher?

>> No.19041636

The majority of his "womanizing" was with one woman he lived with, had a child with, and was faithful to for many years despite not being married.

His fornication is over stated.

>> No.19041643

>>19041627
The Bible

>> No.19041644

>Yeah I fucked and went to plays and drank and had loads of fun but now that I've done all that and had a great time I know that you shouldn't do those things
It's easy to say something's not important when you've had your fill of it.

>> No.19041669

>>19041643
Chapter & Verse?

>> No.19041710

>>19041644
Exactly. Why should he and someone who remained chaste their entire life both receive Gods grace and go to heaven all the same? It’s easy to give up something once you’ve had your fill, it’s harder to go without ever indulging in it.

>> No.19041715

>>19041669
i haven't read the bible but i'm pretty sure it says fornication and adultery are bad in there

>> No.19041732

>>19041715
>i haven't read the bible
sad! many such cases!

>> No.19041751

>>19041710
Isn’t there like a bible thing that answers this question exactly.
Something to do with the sheep that goes astray and once it comes back you should celebrate.
This is why I I think the Bible is shitty and religion it’s stupid

>> No.19041765

>>19041398
This why is /lit obsessed with religion? Is it just a meme?

>> No.19041780

>>19041751
I don’t know about that, but I do know of another passage that addresses this. A man hires a bunch of laborers, all at different times and ends up paying them all the same amount of money at the end of the day. So the workers who were there since the early morning working their assess off got the exact same amount of money as the workers who got there towards the end of the day and only worked a little. The money is supposed to symbolize God’s grace and acceptance into heaven. And this is portrayed to be a good thing. It’s absolutely infuriating.

>> No.19041787

>>19041780
>working their assess off
*working their asses off

>> No.19041799

>>19041715
it also has blessed patriarchs and kings who take multiple wives and have children with servants

>> No.19041812

>>19041644
>>19041710
>>19041751
>>19041780
>it's harder to go without ever indulging in it.
Man's passions are insatiable, and the bowls of the lustful will burn forever in hell. That you are jealous of the sinner shows that you love do not love God. But, the sinner who realizes his error and stops sinning shows a changed heart. Your heart longs for evil. Theirs longs for good.

>> No.19041817

>>19041265
Berbers? You retard

>> No.19041823

>>19041765
In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum.

>> No.19041825

>>19041812
I just said that. I don’t love god. There is no god. The Bible is shitty fiction, it does have some cool stories.
I’m not a Christian, but i don’t mind if people follow religion.

>> No.19041826

>>19041644
>It's easy to say something's not important when you've had your fill of it.
In a sense, opposing things for the right reason is important. He had firsthand experience.
>>19041710
>It’s easy to give up something once you’ve had your fill, it’s harder to go without ever indulging in it.
Actually, it's much easier to never indulge, because you don't even know what you're missing.

>> No.19041828

>>19041551
Heroin doesn't rot your soul as well? Drug is also a sin you know

>> No.19041830

>>19041812
Based. Sinners BTFO. God knows the hearts of men.

>> No.19041831
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19041831

Sex is le bad comes from both Paul and the Greeks. Judaism awaits coomer bros

>> No.19041836

>>19041398
>doesn't believe unbaptized children go to hell when they die
ngmi

>> No.19041843

>>19041826
You’re telling me that it’s easier to turn down food when you’re so full you could vomit than when you’re starving and haven’t eaten in days?

>> No.19041844

>>19041636
Why didn't he just marry her then?

>> No.19041855

>>19041119
who should we trust on a matter but the expert?

>> No.19041856

>>19041844
Because she was his slave lmao

>> No.19041858

>>19041826
>>19041843
Shit, meant to word that the other way around. I meant to say that it’s obviously easier to turn down food when you’re full than when you’re starving.

>> No.19041859

>>19041844
He was a cuck who liked watching her with other men

>> No.19041860

>>19041843
>muh food
The absolute worst analogy you can apply. Also, being so full you could vomit is absolutely sickening. Imagine eating for pleasure and not for survival. ngmi.

>> No.19041864

>>19041644
It's funny how people's values often reflect what's most convenient for them given their current position in the life cycle.
In their youth, they'll be very liberal, open, and prioritize indulging in consequence free hedonism because they're horny
Then when they hit their late twenties, they'll suddenly become "conservative" adopt a more family values based approach, and frown on the very things they used to indulge in. They may even become a "Christian".
It's almost like most people aren't sincere in their beliefs and just espouse whatever feels best to them given their current life circumstances.

>> No.19041868

>>19041856
In Islam sex with your female slaves is permitted. It's such a shame liberals ruined the world for everyone, and now you can't have a qt slave to have lawful sex with.

>> No.19041869

>>19041828
source?

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the idea of “marrying” your slave only makes sense to a hominid who believes in gay marriage

>> No.19041874

>>19041864
Speak for yourself, I've hated this filthy culture ever since I was young. Not even out of resentment, I simply don't enjoy what the masses enjoy, it makes me nauseous just thinking about it.

>> No.19041884

>>19041869
recreational use of heroin is heavy enough to classify it as a sort of suicide imo

>> No.19042071

>>19041780
God is a communist then

>> No.19042111

>>19042071
Apparently

>> No.19042162

>>19041780
capitalist bros....

>> No.19042176

>>19041844
she was poor

>> No.19042185

>>19041884
source on drugs being a sin

>> No.19042191

>>19041135
He kinda did.

>> No.19042228

>>19041398
source?
nothing about that in the Bible

>> No.19042245

>>19042185
Aquinas on booze

>> No.19042266

>>19042228
St. Augustine. It's literally in the book this thread is about. Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.19042280

>>19042176
I thought it was easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven? If he’s a good Christian, why should his lover’s poor financial status matter?

>> No.19042324

>>19041817
berbers are getting bred out by arabs mudslim in north africa
not much real berbers around today

>> No.19042355

>stole fruit from trees and did degenerate shit as a teenager
>"young people are doomed" once he grows older
with the FUCK was wrong with him

>> No.19042418

>>19042266
guess he really was a Proto-Calvinist

>> No.19042421

>>19041135
He did

>> No.19042425

>>19042355
The typical young person doesn't improve in old age, they just become loser normies who are either bitter or sink into TV / alcohol / social media as a coping mechanism
This is pretty obvious and pretending like the exceptions can't address it, is an odd position to take

>> No.19042430

>>19042418
They're the biggest fans of original sin doctrine.

>> No.19042431

>>19042355
Fuck off retard

>> No.19042439

>>19042430
all western Christians believe in original sin. Orthodogs believe in the same fallen nature of man but have a slightly different way of imputing it.

>> No.19042442

>>19042280
IIRC he was going to marry a woman with higher status but then took the neoplatonist pill and became an ascetic

>> No.19042444

>>19041843
It's easier to turn down food when you're not a fatty which is the equivalent of being a Coomer or a clubslut or a drunkard
You seething addicts don't realize you'll never "have your fill", or why Augustine was completely right

>> No.19042446

>>19042431
kek

>> No.19042487

>>19041551
I thought the soul was immaterial, why is it rotting nigga?

>> No.19042603

>>19041825
Of course there is a God. It is easily proven by simple epagoge.

>Everything that exists has a direct cause.
>All effects have only one direct cause.
>Some causes have more than one direct effect.
>Therefore, there exists a cause which is the ultimate cause of all things.

>> No.19042631

>>19041844
He wasn't a christian until much later, at which point he had left this woman behind and become celibate with his buddies.

>> No.19042638 [DELETED] 

>>19042444
If it were easier for fat people to turn down food, then how did they get fat?

>> No.19042654

>>19042603
>Everything that exists has a direct cause.
Proof?

>> No.19042655

>>19042654
Serious replies only.

>> No.19042755

>>19041119
horseshoe theory

>> No.19042778

>>19042603
>all effects have only one direct cause
Demonstrably false

>> No.19042786

>>19042778
>says something is demonstrable
>doesn't demonstrate it

>> No.19042804

>>19042786
Fuckin storms. I'm not gonna tease out what you think "cause" and "effect" mean when you make baseless fucking claims in order for you to garble outdated causality arguments that have no relevance after Newton. Study anything in physics and chemistry I'm sure you'll find something.

>> No.19042824

>>19042804
You said it was demonstrable. Demonstrate it. In what manner do storms have more than one direct effect?

>> No.19042841

>>19042824
I'll answer your question with a question. What is the direct, singular cause of storms. Better yet, what is the direct, singular cause of a person. Or the direct, singular cause of motion. And we have yet to go into abstracts, where you would have to list the direct, singular cause of
>behavior
>want
>emotion
>political upheaval
>ideas
etc.

>> No.19042900

>no one ITT has mentioned the fact that according to catholic theology, no sin shall go unpunished and there are different levels of punishment according to the gravity of each sin
I'm not a catholic isn't that what they say? People can be free from punishment in hell but they still need to pay here on earth and in purgatory.
Catholics, correct me if I'm wrong.

>> No.19042904

>>19042841
Why do you leave the field so quickly? You proposed that storms have more than one direct cause. If you can show this, my argument falls, and there is no need to waste our time with the rest.

>> No.19042905

>>19042900
Saints ascend directly to heaven, they don’t go to purgatory. Augustine was a saint.

>> No.19042918

>>19042900
This is all true, funny enough the Bible never mentions purgatory nor the Pope. One experience when I was younger that eventually led to me leaving Catholicism was just observing my thoughts and counting how many sinful thoughts I had during the day. It was something like 105 when I stopped. And I thought how unrealistic it was for God to expect us not to sin

>> No.19042923

>>19042904
You need two fuckin fronts to make a storm dipshit. This is the last thing I'm going to spoonfeed you. Stop being intentionally dense

>> No.19042929

>>19042918
Before establishing a trip you'll first want to establish a personality, otherwise there's no point.

>> No.19042930

>>19042900
God is perfectly just, and so he rewards each man according to his works. Therefore, while there are certain common sufferings of hell, the torment of damnation is unique to each soul according the choices made in life. For example, a Catholic who is damned will suffer more than a pagan who is damned, for the Catholic was given the fullness of truth in life with access to the sacraments, whereas the pagan likely only had access to the light of natural reason. This is part of why the church condemns the practice of baptizing infants who cannot be reasonably guaranteed to be raised in the faith.

>> No.19042936

>>19042918
God expects you to sin, moving towards God is about striving against sin. Not making it your only personality trait.

>> No.19042946

>>19042923
And sometimes, when two fronts collide, there is no storm. Therefore, there is some more direct cause of a storm than the mere presence of two fronts. This is without even bothering to delve into the material reality, which demonstrates your error more clearly.

>> No.19042948

>>19042905
So why is he a saint, even though his life was full of sin?
>>19042918
>the Bible never mentions purgatory nor the Pope
Playing the devil's advocate here. Some of your christian beliefs are not explicitly stated in the bible, correct? How are you different than catholics?
> And I thought how unrealistic it was for God to expect us not to sin
Why would God punish people for something that they cannot help but do it? Also, wasn't sin THE reason why people became ''separated from God''?

>> No.19042963

>>19042946
You cannot create any of the phenomena I've listed (besides motion, and even then not practically) with one unilateral cause, so your statement is false. I don't care how many occasionalist arguments you pull out of your ass; if you're going to simply deny empiricism then your argument is meaningless to begin with.

>> No.19042990

>>19042487
Because of your sin

>> No.19044390

>>19041135
He did. St. John Chrysostom was right on this issue though

>> No.19044449

>>19042948
>So why is he a saint, even though his life was full of sin?

He repented and became a faithful Christian.

>> No.19044480

>>19041119
based desu

>> No.19044482

>>19042948
>So why is he a saint, even though his life was full of sin?
you can earn get out of purgatory points still on earth (you can't earn get out of hell points ever tho).

>> No.19044525

>>19042948
I am no longer Catholic, I am atheist

>> No.19044529

>>19044525
What's the difference?

>> No.19044556

>>19044529
Constant fear of death

>> No.19044609

>>19042918
Thoughts are not sins. Only actions can be called sins. This is why there is a prohibition against sodomy, but not against being gay.

>> No.19044616

>>19044609
What if a gay guy was on nofap for a long time and then accidentally busted when a man's ass rubbed against him on a public bus or train?

>> No.19044630

>>19042603
That just proves a cause, at least, not a God and certainly not necessarily the God of the Bible and Christian theology

>> No.19044679

>>19041669
Matthew 5:
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[e] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

1 Corinthians:
7 But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. 8 For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

>> No.19044953

>>19041780
Is this bait, or do you not understand parables at all?

>> No.19044970

>>19044679
>27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[e] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
Unironically what did he mean by this?

>> No.19045755

>>19041264
>>19041180
>>19041321
>>19041119
reminder that saint augustine was a north african and not white

>> No.19045771

>>19042324
most ''arabs'' in north africa are simply larping theres no predomenance of arab genetics.

>> No.19046217

>>19041180
Augustine was the first wokist.

>> No.19046782

He was conducting research

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>>19041551
>>19041563
Seething, coping and dilating.
You will never pass btw.