/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19031870]

What books are in the schizoid canon?

[Anonymous No.19031878]

What differentiates this from extreme depression?

[Anonymous No.19031895]

>>19031878
Schizoids aren't necessarily unhappy
>people with SPD seem comfortable with their aloof lifestyle and consider themselves observers, rather than participants in the world around them. But they also mention that many of their schizoid patients recognize themselves as socially deviant (or even defective) when confronted with the different lives of ordinary people – especially when they read books or see movies focusing on relationships.
Their detachedness can lead to depression later on though.

[Anonymous No.19031897]

Nothing because it’s boring. All they’d do is change lightbulbs and think.

[Anonymous No.19031900]

>>19031895
Hmm
The stuff in the image describes me but I frequently want to die

[Anonymous No.19031915]

>>19031878
Well, schizoids are not that unhappy with the way they live. It doesn't seem fair to me that they should call this a personality disorder if the people who are like this don't want to change. But I suppose it could be useful to diagnose people with SPD because it's a potential predictor of schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.19031916]

>>19031870

Imagine being so stupid you need acronym mnemonics like they teach children in school

[Anonymous No.19031921]

>>19031916
If you ever manage to get a job you'll find acronym mnemonics are used everywhere.

[Anonymous No.19031928]

>>19031870

Isn't most of this stuff just low IQ bydlo bullshit? People with bigger brains and more self control are a bit more detached, less concerned with chasing wahmen, etc. Like I don't know a single intelligent person interested intensely in hookup culture. They're usually busy and momentarily celibate or in a longterm relationship. Why does psychology cater so hard to the mediocre mass?

[Anonymous No.19031936]

>>19031870
>Prefer being alone and choose to do activities alone
>Don't want or enjoy close relationships
>Feel little if any desire for sexual relationships
>Feel like you can't experience pleasure
>Have difficulty expressing emotions and reacting appropriately to situations
>May seem humorless, indifferent or emotionally cold to others
>May appear to lack motivation and goals
>Don't react to praise or critical remarks from others
Looks like a true enlightened person who has achieved ataraxia.

[Anonymous No.19031937]

>>19031915
>It doesn't seem fair to me that they should call this a personality disorder if the people who are like this don't want to change
Yeah it just describes people who are unusually aloof and independent, it's not really that terrible unless they go to extreme and unhealthy lengths to reject people, or can't find a source of enjoyment in anything, in which case yeah I guess it's pathological

[Anonymous No.19031939]

>>19031921

>I'M DUMB AND SOCIETY CATERS TO MY WEAKNESS!!!!!


>Y-Y-YOU MUST NOT HAVE A JOB!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.19031945]

>>19031939
Are you one of those retards we have to ban from the lab because they think PPE doesn't apply to them? "I'm too smart to ever need protective equipment!"

[Anonymous No.19031949]

>>19031945

An acronym used for brevity is totally different from the type of acronym in the OP, which is used as a memory aid to teach dumb women majoring in psychology

[Anonymous No.19031969]

>>19031936
>Looks like a true enlightened person who has achieved ataraxia.
This. Based.

[Anonymous No.19031974]

>>19031949
Acronyms used as memory aids are everywhere retard, never heard of DRSABCD

[Anonymous No.19031977]

>>19031870
I'm schizoid and also on and off severely depressed/anhedonic. When there's no depression I'm perfectly fine with the way I am and actively go out of my way to avoid people/contact as much as possible. To keep it literary I think Thomas Ligotti is one of us

[Anonymous No.19031978]

>>19031939
D
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[Anonymous No.19031992]

>>19031870

I'm like this but I'm not a true schizoid because I have emotions and want a non-zero level of interaction with other humans, but I'm too lazy to do much of anything about it. I'm simply very introverted. I suspect that with internet culture, others like me may mislabel themselves as "schizoid" when they're really not (capacity for emotion, some desire for sex/relationships, etc). Sperglords are in similar territory.

This one time at work years ago, this woman told me that I was "very cold". I actually kind of liked this since I was technically her supervisor at that point and she'd basically validated my masculinity while at the same time labeling me a creep.

[Anonymous No.19032012]

Hegel, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Deleuze, Baudrillard, Land

[Anonymous No.19032014]

>>19031900
have you considered dieng? that might help. Alternitively, you could try not dieing too.

[Anonymous No.19032020]

>>19032012
>Heidegger, Deleuze, Baudrillard, Land
These are for full on schizophrenic not schizoid

[Anonymous No.19032021]

>>19031992
>I'm like this but I'm not a true schizoid because I have emotions and want a non-zero level of interaction with other humans, but I'm too lazy to do much of anything about it.
Yep basically me, I enjoy interacting with other people but only superficially and I never make any effort to have anything more than fleeting interactions with most people. There's a coffee place I go to whenever I buy groceries with two girls that I always enjoy speaking to, but I don't even know their names, sounds pretty pathetic but it keeps me happy

[Anonymous No.19032025]

>>19031878
>>19031928
If you ever get to meet a lot of Finnish people you'll see how real the schizoid is

[Anonymous No.19032026]

>>19031992
>>19032021
You're probably autists. There's a lot of overlap with autist/schizoid/depressed/anxiety so you need a psych assessment to really tell the difference.

[Anonymous No.19032027]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_n8win2Vs

This one

[Anonymous No.19032040]

>>19032026

Yeah, I think I may actually be a highly functional sperg but I don't care to see about it. I don't think it would add value to my life to formally attach that label.

[Anonymous No.19032051]

>>19032040
They can help you with cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT, not the other CBT). Works pretty well if the patient is receptive. Otherwise/also they can give you anti-anxiety meds.

[Anonymous No.19032052]

>>19032026
Nah, I have normal development skills and am actually a good communicator/ good socially, people enjoy my company I just don't make much effort to seek people out.
Autism is generally a problem with development, I think it's probably true that I would struggle to have an intimate relationship and to know what to do but that's not necessarily autism

[Anonymous No.19032059]

>>19031915
>>19031937
Usually schizoids only seek treatment when they're suffering from depression so I guess it's useful for psychs to diagnose it as a cause of their depression.
I don't think you'd treat a depressed normie the same as a depressed schizoid.

[Anonymous No.19032060]

>>19032020
Same thing. The so called "schizoid" is just the way he is, because he is bored. Schizophrenia is just the high intensity form of the "schizoid".

[Anonymous No.19032069]

>>19032051

>t. jewish shrink drumming up business

I don't need you.

[Anonymous No.19032081]

>>19032020
Go hard or go home

[Anonymous No.19032083]

>>19032060
The first one just wants to be alone, the second actively has visual and aural hallucinations and can be dangerous

[Anonymous No.19032097]

7/7 Oh shit, am I schizo?

[Anonymous No.19032099]

>>19032060
>>19032083
Yeah schizoids are not really related to schizos afaik

[Anonymous No.19032109]

>>19032099
They're vaguely related (in the same dsm cluster or whatever), schizotypal is like the intermediary mode between the two

[Anonymous No.19032122]

>>19032012

All philosophers enjoy solitude, otherwise they wouldn't be philosophers. Same for artists, basically any man capable of abstract thought hates too much company

[Anonymous No.19032123]

>>19032099
>>19032109
Who makes up all these similar labels for unrelated things? Is it schizos or schizoids

[Anonymous No.19032127]

>>19032123
Schizoids

[Anonymous No.19032131]

>>19032122
On the contrary, a lot of artists are hyper-socialised

[Anonymous No.19032135]

>when you create a society so toxic to the human spirit that you have to label the intelligent and sensitive people who try to distance themselves from it as diseased or defective in order to discourage others from imitating them
Alienation is not a pleasant experience for people above 120 IQ or so. Most cope by becoming hypersocialized but others cope by becoming asocial. The world is so terrible that satisfaction with engaging with it should be regarded as disease of a much deeper fault than any mental malady, a spiritual defect even.

[Anonymous No.19032141]

>>19032123
Doctors, usually of a certain ethnic affiliation

[Anonymous No.19032148]

>>19032131

Socialization doesn't compromise a person's good nature, but a good nature makes the majority seem undesirable. But it depends on how prone to contempt you are

[Anonymous No.19032155]

>>19032135
This. Reading the (divinely inspired?) "Anon's Taliban Poetry" made me realize it.

[Anonymous No.19032208]

>>19032135
The world wasn't quite this terrible even ten years ago.

[Anonymous No.19032242]

>>19031870
>Image
Where to even begin. Society's just sick. Poison to the soul.

[Anonymous No.19032245]

>>19032083
>>19032099
wrong, wrong, wrong. The Schizoid is the same thing as the Schizophrenic. It's just that schizoid experiences a lower intensity. Same disease, different intensity. If someone isn't going crazy nutso, they don't get diagonsed schizophrenia, unless it causes them to go wild. You guys need to study your Etiology. The same disease can affect two people differently.

[Anonymous No.19032267]

>>19031870
If you removed the last three points, that's a formula for a great life.

[Anonymous No.19032356]

[Anonymous No.19032389]

>>19031915
I heard it's been removed from the latest DSM, but haven't checked to verify.

I'm schizoid, fitting the diagnostic criteria almost perfectly. Fun times.

[Anonymous No.19032403]

>>19031870
can someone speak to schizotypal behavior?

[Anonymous No.19032416]

>>19032245
They are not related, though there can be some symptom overlap. If they were connected then the treatment for schizophrenia would work for schizoid personality disorder.

[Anonymous No.19032428]

>>19032403
Avoidant of people plus weird thoughts and behavior quite similar to ocd, no actual hallucinations i think

[Anonymous No.19032430]

you should have kept your mouth shut

[Anonymous No.19032446]

>mfw a beautiful schizoid
>people always assume because of my beauty I'm always interested in sex with women and men
>really just want to sit in the woods napping all day listening to music
>nobody bothers to give me the time of day at first
>when they bother listening to me they don't listen properly
>somewhat care about relationships but more about the benefits they provide my musical creativity
>aloof beyond belief once nobody is around
>teachers always chastised me for daydreaming all day but its the only thing that's made working easier
>just can't stand my hands being cold

[Anonymous No.19032452]

>>19031992
Desire for intimacy is one of the covert symtpoms of SPD

[Anonymous No.19032453]

>>19032416
>the treatment
no one knows how to cure schizophrenia. You're talking about curative medicine here. If you knew how to cure schizophrenia, then yes, to test my theory you could try it on a schizoid subject. But you can't.

The treatment of schizophrenia is only about managing the symptoms. And the symptoms between the high and low-intensity schizophrenia are different, so they're treated differently. Just like how a patient who has a massive wound and is losing blood very fast has a different treatment to a much smaller laceration. The cure for both problems are the same (stop the bleeding, replace the blood), just the body's own system can handle it in the case of a smaller laceration.

In fact, being a "schizoid" doesn't even need treatment. They can usually take care of themselves. The only thing about it that would need treatment is if they lack any kind of joy. But this might be the exact thing which turns them into a more manic form of schizophrenic that is intense and therefore dangerous to their health.

[Anonymous No.19032471]

>>19032453
I didn't mention curing the condition. That's your assumption.

The treatment and maintenance of schizophrenia is drugs. Whilst the dosage may be reduced once the person is stable, in order to maintain their functionality / daily living skills, they will remain on that medication so long as it continues to work, and doesn't cause adverse side effects. My first proper job was acute psychiatry work.

Treatment for schizoid personality disorder is talk therapy. There aren't (known) cures for any personality disorders.

If you can link to a paper that proves me wrong, I'll happily adjust my stance.

[Anonymous No.19032476]

oh no

[Anonymous No.19032481]

>>19032471
>The treatment and maintenance of schizophrenia is drugs.
Actually no, its a reduction in wheat derived foods, socialization, removing drug usage that is often exacerbating the degrading mental state and keeping them productive in appropriate social settings.
Simply by tossing them drugs means we've given up to other approaches and deem the patient unfit for our time, thereby benefiting the corporations producing these drugs and the services that bleed the mentally insane dry.

[Anonymous No.19032507]

>>19032471
No, it's not my assumption. It was yours. Again, you should study the philosophy of diagnosis. The only reason why the same problem that needs medical intervention would have the same broad "treatment", is if you have gotten to the root cause of this problem. The root cause is the essence of the problem, and the essence of something is the only thing that is shared across all particular examples of that thing. This is basic Aristotlean categorical metaphysics that all medicine is based on. Otherwise, two things that are the same (two different instances of the same thing) are different in only in intensity.

The intensity of schizophrenia is what determines the treatment, because there is no known cure. Therefore, different forms of the disease have different treatments. This is no evidence to suggest they are necessarily different problems.

The treatment of schizophrenics via pharmaceuticals is a shoddy treatment at best. They have a ridiculous laundry list of side effects, and many schizophrenics even prefer to not take them because of that. Even if it means death. What good is that for a patient? That's not medicine at all.

The best possible treatment is a kind of "immersion therapy" where the schizophrenic subject lives in an environment that they can handle, that doesn't trigger their schizophrenic symptoms, and certainly doesn't exacerbate them.

If you want to understand schizophrenia in an actually useful medicinal way, you can study the works of Felix Guattari. He worked for decades in a psychiatric clinic called La Borde treating severe schizophrenic and autistic patients. He's not some quack without a practice or a philosophy, you can read his works or read about the clinic he worked for.

[Anonymous No.19032528]

Being a schizoid is very pleasant.

[Anonymous No.19032548]

>>19032481
Actually no, it's [my unfounded opinipn].
Tell me how I know you've never worked with any genuinely mentally ill people.

[Anonymous No.19032556]

>>19032507
>Felix Guattari
This has to be bait.

[Anonymous No.19032557]

>>19031977
Weed helps with the anhedonia.

[Anonymous No.19032558]

>>19032548
Actually yes. https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/14/4/489/1870987
I've not worked with them, instead I've lived and endured their abuses.

[Anonymous No.19032584]

>>19032556
sure it is. I am "trolling" by mentioning a philosopher and practicing psychotherapist who worked for decades with schizophrenic patients at a clinic (that still exists, and not as some mere private and unregulated institution, but as a legally regulated and recognized part of the french medical system) and wrote extensively about it, when discussing schizophrenia and its treatment. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.19032587]

>>19032557
Yeah you're right, whenever I have done it in the past it gave me a sort of blissful feeling for a few hours.

[Anonymous No.19032676]

>>19031870
Does it count if I enjoy fantasizing about sex and have a libido, but dislike the act of sex itself/feel nothing from it?

[Anonymous No.19032699]

>>19032676
I feel the same way.

[Anonymous No.19032719]

>>19032584
I have no stake in this (aside from being a sperg) but I wanted to say that I found what you wrote very interesting. It's frustrating dealing with people who refuse to grasp basic concepts, like the same disease affecting people differently

[Anonymous No.19032721]

>>19031916
Even worse, they can only parse information through anime girls.

[Anonymous No.19032727]

>>19032721

[Anonymous No.19032731]

>>19032727

[Anonymous No.19032738]

>>19032731

[Anonymous No.19032743]

>>19031870
Francis E deck.

[Anonymous No.19032746]

>>19032743
Oh, you meant schizoid, not schizo, still funny though.
48 rules of power maybe?

[Anonymous No.19032750]

>>19032738
it has a happy ending

[Anonymous No.19032751]

>>19032721
>>19032727
>>19032731
>>19032738
I find these completely innofensive and even somewhat novel.

[Anonymous No.19032755]

>>19032751
Ignore my spelling mistake I am also severely retarded

[Anonymous No.19032759]

>>19031870
The Book of Disquiet.

[Anonymous No.19032769]

>>19032731
>they wear a personality as a 'mask'
cringe, a jap probably wrote this

[Anonymous No.19032770]

>>19031928
Because normal people cater to themselves. Most people are normal, middling, socialized, functioning people, suboptimals need not apply.

[Anonymous No.19032773]

>no desire for sexual relationship
Sour grapes

[Anonymous No.19032781]

>>19032738
The /lit/ mentality illustrated.

[Anonymous No.19032799]

>>19032721
i love her

[Anonymous No.19032853]

>>19031895
As long as I keep up my cycling hobby, I keep my depression is check and can enjoy all my other hobbies. For me, cardio outside is key. Riding my bike regularly makes everything better: the taste of food, the enjoyment of hobbies, etc.

[Anonymous No.19032861]

>>19031928
>Why does psychology cater so hard to the mediocre mass?
because they are the one who paid them to exist.

[Anonymous No.19032873]

>>19031870
this is me. thank you for posting to let me know.

[Anonymous No.19032941]

Are schizoids INTx?

[Anonymous No.19032951]

>>19032941
im infp

[Anonymous No.19033009]

>>19032773
>Sorry bro, you can't just come up with ways to make your life more tolerable, you just need to suffer eternally because I said so. If not it's bad because it just is.
This is not even a riff at you, just something I notice a lot of people do.

[Anonymous No.19033016]

>>19033009
>>19032773
Well even to a shizoid the need to reproduce catches up to you eventually.
Then you're in a world of Gosling.

[Anonymous No.19033028]

>>19032781
Fuck why can't 3D be this perfect

[Anonymous No.19033040]

>>19032941
most are, im intp

[Anonymous No.19033068]

>>19032781
What the fuck, this is me

>>19032721
>>19032727
>>19032731
>>19032738
Can you be schizoid and still desire to be normal and wish experience love even if you don't do it at the moment?

[Anonymous No.19033073]

>>19031870
IWouldn't the Buddhist canon be the perfect religious guide for a schizoid?

[Anonymous No.19033075]

>>19033068
Yes. Avoid having nature catching up to you for as long as possible. It sucks once you get the drive to make 12 kids and have a mind fighting against that.

[Anonymous No.19033077]

>>19033068
no

>>19033073
islam would
muhammad was almost certainly a schizoid

[Anonymous No.19033079]

>>19033016
>the need to reproduce catches up to you eventually.
No it doesn't. the "need to reproduce" is not something universal, and if you think otherwise then you need to actually prove it, and not just state that it's "the purpose of life" without any evidence or proof for such a statement.

[Anonymous No.19033086]

>>19031916
Mnemonics are extremely useful. If you're smart and use mnemonics, you will use smart mnemonics. You can come up with them by yourself in seconds and have some obscure fact ingrained into your brain easily. Extremely useful for learning language.

[Anonymous No.19033110]

>>19033077
>islam would
>muhammad was almost certainly a schizoid
That's not even remotely true. Islam is the glorification and codification of a highly socialized semi-nomadic culture and Muhammad is the embodiment of this.
The Desert fathers are the schizoid choice.

[Anonymous No.19033113]

>>19031870
Facebook pages

[Anonymous No.19033115]

>>19033079
Reproduction is the purpose of life.

[Anonymous No.19033303]

>>19032135
True

[Anonymous No.19033351]

>>19033115
Drinking water is the purpose of life.
Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.19033358]

>>19033351
Yes.

[Anonymous No.19033381]

>>19033358
Which one is it then? There cannot be two final purposes to a single thing; if there are multiple, then it is no longer a single thing (in which case you need to differentiate between the things to make your point), or you must admit that there is no purpose (because a multitude of purposes for a single thing is equivalent to none because there is no means of differentiating between their priority/hierarchy). And if there is no purpose, then your entire stance falls apart. Reproduction is no longer "the meaning" to life. Nor is drinking water. They are all just efficient or formal causes of lifeforms and we arrive at the idea that there is no purpose of life.

[Anonymous No.19033384]

Death seed blind man's greed
Poets' starving children bleed
Nothing he's got he really needs
Twenty first century schizoid man

[Anonymous No.19033412]

>>19033351
why drink water? so as to survive. why survive? so you can pass on your genes. we are not immortal, thus, while we might not have that (reproduction) as our personal end goal, nature intends for us to do exactly that.

[Anonymous No.19033426]

>>19033384
the song has nothing to do with spd. bunch of hacks just used it because it sounds cool.

[Anonymous No.19033434]

>>19033381
Western brain.
It's integral part of the purpose which is survival.
It's self evident if you look at any animal.

[Anonymous No.19033465]

>>19033434
You haven't proven anything. All you're doing is repeating the same points over and over again without engaging with your own thought critically. Man is fundamentally different from all animals because he is rational, ergo using animals to prove something about humans is not even pertinent.
>It's integral part of the purpose which is survival.
Survival is not a purpose. No one lives for the sake of surviving. Living is subordinate to the higher purpose of man (ideally). This is why depressed and nihilistic people kill themselves, because survival and reproduction itself cannot be a purpose without higher goals and aspirations, which only reason can provide and attain.

[Anonymous No.19033484]

>>19032773
I could simply pay a prostitute if I wanted to.

[Anonymous No.19033485]

>>19033465
Delusions.
Propagating your own copies like a mold is the highest good.
A clone is moraly superior to having a child.
Everything outside of that is concocted by human imagination and if you reduce so called "higher goals" that humans have come up with it all comes down to sacrificing your own lineage for someone elses profit.
Creating cloning incubators is the ultimate goal for humanity and any ideology that is not aligned towards reproduction being allocated for everyone is a death cult and slavery.

[Anonymous No.19033753]

>>19032481
I never said it was an ideal treatment, and isn't supported by other methods, but antipsychotic medication is the main treatment of schizophrenia. Most relapses occur when the patient stops taking said antipsychotic medication.

>>19032507
You made the assumption I was speaking of a cure when I stated treatment. The treatment plan you mentioned may be used in some places, but it certainly isn't as wide spread as you think it is.

I'm still waiting for you to provide a paper that proves a link between schizophrenia, and schizoid personality disorder. Overlap in some symptoms doesn't prove they are the same disease / issue.

>>19032676
Not all schizoids have a complete disinterest in sex / intimacy. Some recognise their desire, but simply don't act on it because they know it isn't worth the effort.

>>19032941
I'm an INTJ (self administered test). It wouldn't surprise me if INTx held true for all schizoids.

[Anonymous No.19033837]

It was a strange revelation when I realized people did things because they enjoyed them, and not because they were forced to.

[Anonymous No.19033840]

>>19033485
>A clone is moraly superior to having a child.
you’re an idiot, the purpose of passing on your genes is evolution not to just continue copying yourself for no reason

[Anonymous No.19033853]

>>19033840
That's false.
The purpose of passing on your genes is immortality.

[Anonymous No.19033887]

>>19033853
You only achieve immortality trivially as your children don’t share your consciousness and your genes will eventually be so diluted as to be unrecognizably you, you are not just an immortal continuation of the protozoa that crawled out of the primordial ooze, and any you won’t achieve immortality even in this trivial way because without evolution the species will eventually go extinct, in fact every species on earth and in the entire universe will eventually go extinct unless we begin evolving to an insane extent. I also don’t see how you can claim that passing on your genes and therefore “immortality” is the purpose of life, it’s not the purpose of life it’s just continuing to live. And you don’t need to pass on your genes to achieve the kind of immortality you are talking about because your immortality is to trivial that just moving in the world will generate immortality since your effects on it physically will never dissipate and will magnify thanks to the butterfly effect.

[Anonymous No.19033966]

The Stranger has a schizoid main character.

[Anonymous No.19033978]

>>19032853
cycling sounds fun

[Anonymous No.19034053]

>>19033077
>>19033110
Isn't there a story that Allah commanded muslims not to go into Muhammad's tent and to keep chatting at a minimum?

[Anonymous No.19034057]

>>19033384
Neurosurgeons scream for more
At the paranoia's poison door


Check this cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7g1hcngxuc

[Anonymous No.19034060]

>>19031870
Walden

[Anonymous No.19034128]

>>19033978
It is fun, give it a go anon.

[Anonymous No.19034139]

>>19031969
If enlightened just means sickliness

[Anonymous No.19034188]

>>19032853
This Retard doesn’t even cycle and is clearly only near a bike for a photoshoot

[Anonymous No.19034234]

>>19031936
Dont know if you’re trying to be funny, but this is the polar opposite of that. Being higher up on the ladder means an astoundingly appropriate reaction to events and people. Anhedonical under-respondence to people is bad. I’m correcting you because people on the edge easily make this error and doesn’t se the cliff before it’s too late!

[Anonymous No.19034243]

>>19032853
>>19033978
>>19034128
i don't cycle outside because im scared of getting hit by a drunk or chinese driver but i do like indoor cycling

[Anonymous No.19034262]

>>19033966
Thank you for actually posting in relation to the question. Nice dubs too

[Anonymous No.19034272]

>>19033978
Get into mountain biking. Road cycling is super gay.

[Anonymous No.19034366]

>>19033887
>You only achieve immortality trivially as your children don’t share your consciousness and your genes will eventually be so diluted as to be unrecognizably you
Irrelevant.
It's my progeny no matter how you cut it therefore vessels to my immortality.
Positivism needs to go.

[Anonymous No.19034438]

>>19033077
Muhammad spent one month of each year all alone in a cave praying.

[Anonymous No.19034649]

>>19032941
And MBTI is correlated with IQ, and so on.

>>19033753
>I never said it was an ideal treatment, and isn't supported by other methods, but antipsychotic medication is the main treatment of schizophrenia.
Now if only they could get the diagnoses right; but just why might such a thing not happen?

[Anonymous No.19035519]

>>19032773
cuddling is better than sex
t. has experienced gay sex on multiple occasions

[Anonymous No.19035872]

>>19033412
>nature intends for us to do exactly that.
People always claim their beliefs are according to the nature's intent or plan. Its a meaningless phrase.

[Anonymous No.19035935]

>>19033412
What a cold existence. I really hope we can cleave ourselves from this evolutionary worldview one day, and adapt to something better. One would figure.

[Anonymous No.19035954]

>>19031928
>Isn't most of this stuff just low IQ bydlo bullshit?
Yes. All of the personality shit is pseudo-science.

[Anonymous No.19035958]

>>19034139
>If enlightened just means sickliness
The people who took the place of the priests are "demonizing" them and the people who have visions, all the while never curing their claimed diseases and imposing their 'normative' views of the world though chemicals without btw never publicly calling out trans for their bullshit.
Gee, I wonder why...

[Anonymous No.19035966]

>>19031937
>it's not really that terrible unless they go to extreme and unhealthy lengths to reject people
Even what is extreme or unhealthy seems completely subjective to me.

[Anonymous No.19036016]

>>19032721
>I'm going to France for summer vacation alone
Going on summer vacation ALONE. My god send her to the loony bin, absolutely bonkers

[Anonymous No.19036066]

>>19033978
if you have a real bikepath near you, I recommend it
good fun alone, or with others
the wind feels great, I personally can't enjoy indoor cycling in the same way because of the lack of it
cycling on roads really varies though, I don't recommend it on busy roads since it's unsafe for you and also is kind of shitty for the car drivers
backroads and non-busy roads are fun though, just be sure to get over to the side of the road when you hear/see a car coming

[Anonymous No.19036497]

>>19032721
It's just so sad to see people pathologize introversion and intellect. Yeah, maybe people don't care to hear praise all the time because they have a sense of self worth and don't need or want to hear it from the masses that misunderstand them as a general rule, Christ have mercy.

[Anonymous No.19036574]

>>19035935
That won't happen until we cease to literally be what it currently means to be human. We would essentially have to become literal gods (even as mashines the principles behind reproduction exist and control our own behaviour)

[Anonymous No.19036577]

>>19031916
Memory is not the same as general intelligence. IQ isn’t tested by how many digits of pi you remember.

[Anonymous No.19036582]

>>19036574
*machines

[Anonymous No.19036696]

>>19033086

Dirty mnemonics are the best. They should actually be encouraged as a teaching tool for memorization because they're so effective, but the problem is that something truly memorable would involve naughty words that one isn't supposed to use in a typical, polite educational setting.

A very mild example is the following, which aired on the old comedy program TV Funhouse:

Phylum Class Order Family Genus Species

Please Come Over For Gay Sex

[Anonymous No.19036755]

>>19036574
If you insist.

[Anonymous No.19036766]

>>19031870
what traumatic childhood does to a mfer

[Anonymous No.19036820]

>>19033412

Nature doesn't "intend" anything, you idiot, it (the human condition) is simply a series of physiological and psychological drives which evolved unconsciously, of themselves, in response to such-and-such stimuli (organisms evolving on a given planet).

You're basically one step removed from the common normie fallacy: "the meaning of life is to reproduce brah just have sex". This lazy view of things confuses a non-existent "intention" outside of humanity (attributed to god, nature, etc) as a mechanism to give meaning to organisms simply doing what they are inclined to do (self-preservation, fucking, and so on). ib4 literally have sex, touch grass, so just kill yourself dude lmao, and other non-arguments.

[Anonymous No.19036853]

>>19033853

There is no capital-P Purpose in reproduction, not even from a long-term instrumental point of view: you yourself die and again become nothing. You can make a small-p argument from the usual boring observations: enjoying yourself while you're alive, having kids gives you the drive to hang on and continue living, makes you healthier, etc. That these things are true doesn't change the fact that they're still copes.

The human body lies to itself all the time, deceives itself. An especially pernicious lie is the deeper happiness which comes about after the satisfaction of a delayed gratification. You could have died before receiving the delayed gratification, and it is in this sense that the instant gratification is objectively superior, even though the "well"-functioning body is psychologically wired against that fact. Even having children is a sort of life-cuckoldry: "wanting a better life for one's children" cheats you yourself. In general, living for anything outside of yourself or larger than yourself is a delusion.

The man who plants a tree whose shade he knows he will never rest in is not therefore wise.

[Anonymous No.19037075]

>>19031870
Strange how people love to objectify themselves these days. Honestly think all this psychology terminology only makes it impossible for people to genuinely talk about their emotions and problems because people elevate normal character traits to some essential unquestionable biological level.

[Anonymous No.19037152]

>>19031870
never quite sure if this is me, or if i just have autism like the doctor said + bullying.

[Anonymous No.19037158]

>>19031949
>>19031916
you're the type of guy who'd object to having people use checklists because they should just remember all the steps all of the time with 100% consistency, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.19037175]

>>19033412
why reproduce and pass genes? so we can drink water

[Anonymous No.19037758]

>>19032245
aren't you thinking of the Schizotypal?
(this always throws me off: Schizotypal sounds like it should be the almost-autist and Schizoid sounds like it should be the almost-schizo, but it's the other way around.)

[Anonymous No.19038058]

>>19037758
That's 100% schizotypal.
I've seen people say it's one, large spectrum, with Avoidant at the functional end, and proceding with Schizoid, Schizotypal, and finally full-blown psychosis.

[Anonymous No.19038082]

read laing

[Anonymous No.19038083]

There's a good book on schizoid/schizophrenics -- not the same, of course -- by R.D. Laing called The Divided Self, if anyone is interested in the psychology of either/both.

[Anonymous No.19038087]

>>19038082
>>19038083
The seriality of man.

[Anonymous No.19039520]

>>19038083
Schizoid Phenomena - Harry Guntrip

>>19038087
Have you got a link. Google isn't coming up with anything relevant using that search term.

[Anonymous No.19039599]

Everyone that browses this website thinks they’re schizoid

[Anonymous No.19039622]

>>19039599
Do you?