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Is this a Christian work?

>> No.19029586

>>19029573
It's fiction so yes

>> No.19029597

>>19029573
Yes

>> No.19029598
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>>19029586
>it's fiction so yes

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>>19029598
>YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF MY JEWISH FANFIC

>> No.19029621

>>19029586
So the Odyssey and the Mahabharata are Christian works? Or do you not consider them fictions?

>> No.19029629

>>19029573
Lots of cuckolding and it’s known to be ribald. Beware if you’re particularly devout.

>> No.19029630

>>19029621
The Odyssey and the Mahabharata really happened.

>> No.19029646

>>19029597
But anon, how could a work such as Rabelais' spring from the seriousness and urgent single-mindedness we see in the New Testament? Is not the carnivalesque obviously an artifact of religions rooted in a conception of cyclical time and old ritual?

>> No.19029658

>>19029630
I see. So do you think Christianity originated fiction? Or was/is Christianity just one kind of fiction?

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>>19029573
>that cheeky lick

>> No.19029739

>>19029573
Generally speaking

>> No.19029758

>>19029739
You mean 'in general' Christian works are mirthful and festive? What then distinguishes them from pre-Christian Greek festivities, for instance?

>> No.19029806

>>19029758
Was Chaucer a crypto-pagan, too?

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>>19029646
Based retard

>> No.19029845

>>19029806
I don't know; this is what I am asking. So what will you answer to my question?

>> No.19029880

>>19029758
>What then distinguishes them from pre-Christian Greek festivities, for instance

Absence of cannibalism, strict segregation of the sexes, a variety of exclusive mystery cults limited to specific isolated locations outside the city, class/age restrictions, the rituals themselves, the specific spiritual and social purpose... What's the difference between an underground rasta sound system party, a birthday in China and a Summerian wedding? Are you so fucking stupid you think festivities are the exclusive creation of the Greeks? "Big picture perennialist," aka soulful midwit?

>> No.19029921

>>19029880
Hey anon I only brought up the Greeks as an example (that is why you will see a "for instance" if you look again at my post).

But all those distinctions you listed don't hold for Rabelais, which is just why his work is considered ribald, bawdy, grotesque, etc. That is precisely why I am wondering if or in what way Gargantua and Pantagruel can be meaningfully designated as 'Christian'.