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Please recommend some books which deals with this, as in Cioran terminology "inexhaustible abyss".

Schopenhauer says that I was always I and I will remain an I but my concern is the emergence of my wretched subjectivity, the individual Self from a unifying I. What caused this breach from the unity of life and kicked me into time? Where was I in all of those years before my birth?

Please help bros. I am losing my fucking mind, like pain exist, Being IS. Fucking crazy stuff. All I want to do is scream my fucking lung out.

>> No.19021159

They’ll just lie to you.

>> No.19021209

>>19021159
How do you know it? Does uncertainty creeps in the dark depths of all knowledge?

>> No.19021472

Bump

>> No.19021663

The purpose of your existence is to glorify God.
>The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge. Psalm 19:1-2 ESV
>everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.” Isaiah 43:7 ESV
>For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:8-10 ESV

>Where was I in all of those years before my birth?
God created you specifically and desires for you to come closer to him.
>For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them. Psalm 139:13-16 ESV
>“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5 ESV

>> No.19021851

>>19021663
Sorry but I have no paranormal experiences

>> No.19021919

>>19021851
You don't consider being born a paranormal experience?
>What caused this breach from the unity of life and kicked me into time?
Sounds pretty paranormal to me

>> No.19022029

>>19021919
No, no I am talking about the vision or sign from God. Arguments alone can never convince me. I have even tried to speculate like dream but there is nothing in them except petty everyday insecurities about my life. NAD I don't know if a vision could me because of problem of evil. No, anon I don't want debate on evil.

It would be better if I wasn't born. There is just too much suffering, doubt, uncertainty, terror of death, conflicting desire etc. don't know anything anymore.

>> No.19022322

>>19022029
>Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” John 20:29 ESV

>> No.19022376

No idea.

Honestly, Christianity seems to be the only thing that gives somebody a true ultimate purpose to life. The fact that the creator of everything is Love itself and will create a New Heaven and New Earth where every single one of us will have work on this New Earth that has a higher spiritual infinite purpose than any work we do now just sounds incredible.

Of course though, i'm a person who can never believe something unless they see it so i don't think i will ever have the gratification that my friends have when you believe in God as if it's a fact :(

>> No.19022411

>>19022322
>>19022376
I respect Jesus' agony. Everything in existence is rotten and in drenched in death. I can't believe that this existence is the work of a loving being.

>> No.19022489

>>19022411
I would recommend that you read Confessions of St. Augustine. He wrestled with that same question for most of his life until he finally satisfied himself with an answer. Anything that can decay must be good.

>> No.19023026

>>19022489
Thanks I will check this out but I have hope of conversion.

>> No.19023123

>>19021152
Necessity unfortunately

>> No.19023149

>>19023123
Necessity for what?

>> No.19023160

>>19023149
Everything that has and will happened is caused by necessity. It could not have happened any other way.

>> No.19023183

>>19023160
What was that necessity? Why you're you and not someone else? What the fuck is this puppet show?

>> No.19023234

Becker's "The Denial of Death" might be useful to you.

>> No.19023264

>>19023234
That book is about Death not Birth. I kind of agree with its thesis but I have my doubts about post-death.

>> No.19023280

>>19021152
About the Self, read Guénon and Adi Shankara

>> No.19023311

>>19023280
What he can teach me about Self and birth?

>> No.19023335

>>19021152
Darwin

>> No.19025159

>>19021152
a new earth

>> No.19025256

>>19023183
How could you be someone else? If you were someone else you wouldn't be you. The puppet show is simply necessity - everything that is logically possible occurs.

>> No.19025838

>>19025256
What's logical about meter slaughtering matter for billion of years?

>> No.19026282

Basically you are asking this question because you aren't getting any pussy.

>> No.19026317

>>19021152
>>19022376
I recommend Brothers Karamazov. I'm not well-versed enough to really articulate why it left such an impact on me, but it did a lot to better how I view myself, others, and the nature of the world.

>> No.19026330

>>19026282
Pussy is just another desire due to it's lack. I do believe that sex will get underwhelming when one achieves it just like every other goal or thing in life. When you consider things like decay of bodies, creeping up of disease and closeness of death you forget about trivialities of everyday life. Same logic applies here for the quest of Truth which is also a desire like getting pussy, which I do believe will become stale after conquering this frontier just like the day after surrender after facing your defeat.

>> No.19026440

>>19021152
>caring about what some sad schizos said some time ago
what a pathetic little dweeb you must be

>> No.19026456

>>19026440
Then how should I think about this topic?

>> No.19026465

>>19026456
cunts like you should be punched in the face, head stomped in the ground, punched in the stomach until they lose their breath
you are just the average neurotic westoid, you aren't special in your gay little mental wankery

>> No.19026467 [DELETED] 

>>19021152
Because we’re all becoming, baby.

>> No.19026529

>>19026465
It was a sincere question. I am from an Asian 3rd world country.

But yeah after some thought I know you're signifying my insignificance by putting your words that way because I am taking life way too seriously. How I could work in some other way by not intuitively pretending that I am the center of this universe?

>> No.19026534
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19026534

if u want the truly intellectual route