/sffg/ - Science fiction and Fantasy general

[Anonymous No.19001704]

Infiltrating the Underground City Edition

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[Anonymous No.19001722]

[Anonymous No.19001802]

King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

[Anonymous No.19001811]

>>19001704
Absolutely disgusting OP picture. I hate anime like you can’t imagine.

[Anonymous No.19001836]

>Sup bro, you like Bakker?

[Anonymous No.19001848]

I have never read Bakker.
I don't dislike the guy.
The Bakker posting hasn't dissuaded me either.
I simply haven't read him.
Will I ever read him? Mmmm... probably not.
Can you convince me to read him? Not likely either.
I might just die before I read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19001852]

>>19001848
Don't care.

[Anonymous No.19001853]

>Mich! Mich! Miiiicccchhhhhh!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.19001858]

>>19001836
>Bakkerfags are literally homosexuals who think that posting pictures of attractive men will convince /sffg/ to read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19001862]

>>19001858
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.19001872]

>>19001862
Clearly that was a narration, not dialogue.

[Anonymous No.19001874]

I am looking for a dark fantasy series with intense battles, pitch black lore, highly intellectual themes that dovetail into real world philosophy, poignant character psychology, and just a hint of Lovecraftian horror. Is there anything out there like this?

[Anonymous No.19001880]

>>19001872
You have a good imagination for homosexual literature. Have you published anything?

[Anonymous No.19001902]

>>19001880
Yeah, I'm not sure if what you said even makes sense. But regardless, let's not get distracted by the fact that you fantasize about an attractive man asking you about Bakker on what appears to be a brunch date.

[Anonymous No.19001904]

>>19001874
Mistborn

[Anonymous No.19001915]

>>19001902
That wasn't me.

[Anonymous No.19001922]

>>19001874
Don't listen to the other anon. Mistborn is just "whoaaaa, check out these sick abilities! Whoosh! He's flying!. Kerbang! Explosion! Dude, they're slaves! That's like deep and shit!"

[Anonymous No.19001935]

>>19001915
OK, well You are awfully defensive about it through. You sure you don't share his fantasy?

[Anonymous No.19001947]

>>19001935
Through what?

[Anonymous No.19001954]

>>19001947
Through THIS
*unzips dick*

[Anonymous No.19001994]

>>19001874
Brother Red

I legitimately think Selby is better than Bakker or any other modern grimdark author but I cba to argue it every thread

[Anonymous No.19002009]

>>19001994
Who is that? I genuinely never heard of him/her.

[Anonymous No.19002032]

>>19001863
Hobb's books have some of the most fantastical elements I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.19002060]

I was about halfway through the first draft of Oathbriner when a friend brought to my attention the works of Richard Scott Bakker. Being the voracious reader of fanasy literiture that I am I absolutly devoured these tombs in a little over a week. And I kid not when I say that I was thunderstruck by the monsterous, unearthly talent on display. There was the intense battles; so powerfully rendered that the bloody vistas came upon you like a revelation of Biblical magnitude. But it was not merely the masterclass of prose that brought these battles to life, it was the pitch black lore that contextualized these beautiful nightmares with abyssal meaning. This blackness beyond blackness was, of course, achieved only by anchoring this lore-of-lore in themes of a the most highly intellectual nature found in philosophy. Truley the mind of Bakker puts modern "professional" philosophers to shame. Arguably Bakker's greatest achievement is uniting all the above in a poignent study of his characters psychological states as they begin to comprehend both the world Bakker has crafed for them, and the deeper philosophical truths that reach beyond mere fantasy to reveal the real world, almost implications that they hold for us, the readers lucky enough to experience this once in a lifetime tour de force. Implications of an almost Lovecraftian nature.

[Anonymous No.19002067]

Cordwainer Smith

[Anonymous No.19002148]

Oh. Bakker. *nervous laughter*. I was really hoping no one was going to ask me about this. I mean, *coughing* how does one talk about a person who has rendered your life's work obsolete with their first book, never mind the ones that followed. I had put off reading his work for a long time. It wasn't just professional envy from hearing all the praise heaped upon him, but the man himself he uh *inaudible* force of presence that...ah *heavy breath* intimidating. So, anyway, yes I read them. What do you want me to say? That the intense battles burned so bright as to make my own look like matchsticks? Or conversely that his lore is so pitch black that it makes mine burn brighter than the sun, or how about the stratospheric intellect behind the interweaving of real world philosophy with poignant character psychology? Not to mention the unnerving implication of Lovecraftian horror that permeates all quarters of his writings. *Long pause* So yes. There is nothing left for me to do as I have been outdone. I am done. Finished. *stomach gurgle* There will be no Winds of Winter.

[Anonymous No.19002180]

Black Seed

[Anonymous No.19002186]

I did think about reading Bakker a couple times. But then I thought "nah", and read something else instead.
Right now I'm going back through Wheel of Time. Great series. Might take a break though, since it's a long series. Read something in between. I'll need /lit/ to assist me in choosing. But will I choose Bakker? Again, nah. I'll read something else.

[Anonymous No.19002199]

Any good fantasy that takes place in China?

[Anonymous No.19002217]

>>19002186
please read me, the philosophical hardcore rape is amazing

[Anonymous No.19002248]

>>19002148
>>19002060
based

[Anonymous No.19002280]

>>19002180

[Anonymous No.19002286]

>>19002186
Didn't ask.

[Anonymous No.19002305]

>>19002286
I'm sorry, I didn't know I needed your inquiry to post here. It's a free board after all.

[Anonymous No.19002306]

>>19001802
Based.

[Anonymous No.19002314]

>>19002199
She who became the sun is decent, Poppy War is ww2 from China's perspective but with magic.
Of the classics JTTW and Water Margin are both great and basically fantasy.
Interesting Times is lesser Pratchett but still Pratchett
Strange Beasts of China is on my too read list
If you dare to subject yourself to webnovels Malicious Empress of Military Heritage is good imperial court stuff

[Anonymous No.19002329]

>>19002217
There was a smile on his face, but not a human one, as he emerged from the gravewomb of the library's shadowkissed interior. The musculature of his visage slid like moist vaginal folds across the phallus head of his skull, just as it had been conditioned to do. Eyes that saw but did not see. A mind, predatory in its resting malice, that did not think but merely calculated.
"If I just stimulate this part of your brain" he said, a voice both sonorous and ragged, "You would rape your own mother and think it was your own decision to do so".
Slowly he retreated back to the dark, light's caress leaving his face, his body, and finally the hard arch of his cock pressed high against his belly.

[Anonymous No.19002394]

>>19002314
Thanks

[Anonymous No.19002423]

chandon chanderson

[Anonymous No.19002428]

Abandon Blanderson

[Anonymous No.19002518]

When I die, Sandrson will finish my work. He'll also hopefully start it.

[Anonymous No.19002529]

>Well, yes. Berserk is true literature. How could you tell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0

[Anonymous No.19002535]

>>19001704
>Book Club
sep 15: wisdom of crowds https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40701780-the-wisdom-of-crowds
sep 26: the scar https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68497.The_Scar

[Anonymous No.19002577]

I finally read through the Wheel of Time and loved it. It was really, really great. Truly special. I saw Stephen King dislikes it, so I binned all my .epubs and changed all my goodreads reviews.

[Anonymous No.19002628]

>>19001874
Redwall

[Anonymous No.19002632]

For me it's braid tugging.

[Anonymous No.19002658]

Love the burst of hyper-concentrated autism that starts off each thread. Bakkerfag spam, false flags, shitting on SandoBlando, bait, and gook posting that nobody gives a fuck about

[Anonymous No.19002748]

>>19002658
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19002769]

[Anonymous No.19002808]

This book was really bad.

[Anonymous No.19002833]

>>19002808
there wasn't enough hard gay philosophy

[Anonymous No.19002840]

Hey, /sffg/.

I'm a guy who's a big fan of old fantasy books like King of Elfland's Daughter, Phantastes, and Andrew Lang’s Violet Fairy Book.

Do you guys know if there's any other books that have a fable-like feel?

I know that feeling has become lost after every author tried to copy Terry Brooks and I'm hoping that there's still some interesting books to check out.

If all else fails, I'll go buy copies of Argosy and dive into the pulp rabbit hole.

[Anonymous No.19002846]

Reminder: the terribly long epic fantasy series with novels as thick as Chinese phone books that all the retards love and pretend to feel smart for reading? Literally a creation by publishers to jew money out of you.

[Anonymous No.19002847]

>>19002833
There are multiple gay characters in the Stormlight Archive, chud. Check your privilege.

[Anonymous No.19002857]

>>19002840
Lyonesse Trilogy

[Anonymous No.19002864]

>>19002808
this book turned me left wing

[Anonymous No.19002877]

>>19002847
I love Sanderson. He writes the most inclusive and LGBT friendly novels in the industry.

[Anonymous No.19002951]

Is this guy ok?

[Anonymous No.19002958]

>>19002951
>Sandersoys

[Anonymous No.19002968]

>>19002951
giwtwm

[Anonymous No.19002996]

>>19002951
holy fuck someone help brenden fraser

[Anonymous No.19003007]

>>19002951
Imagine the smell.

[Anonymous No.19003022]

>>19002951
God Damn! How did Brando Sandaroo get so thick?

[Anonymous No.19003051]

>>19002951
As cringe as this is, it shows he’s a likeable and friendly man loved by his fans, and not too self-serious that he wouldn’t pose for a silly pic like this at a con. Bakker would never. He’s simply too prideful, autistic, arrogant, and stuck up to let loose and goof off like this.

[Anonymous No.19003064]

>>19003051
We accept your defeat.

[Anonymous No.19003067]

>>19002951
Compare

[Anonymous No.19003074]

>>19003064
Holy Based.

[Anonymous No.19003082]

>>19003064
Sandersoys absolutely BTFO!

[Anonymous No.19003090]

>>19003064
>Even his fans are chads

We can't stop winning Bakkerbros.

[Anonymous No.19003133]

>As cringe as this is, it shows he’s a likeable and friendly man loved by his fans, and not too self-serious that he wouldn’t pose for a silly pic like this at a con. Bakker would never. He’s simply too prideful, autistic, arrogant, and stuck up to let loose and goof off like this.

[Anonymous No.19003154]

>>19003051
Cope, Brittany.

[Anonymous No.19003171]

>>19003064
>every bakker fan is a manlet incel
>the man himself displays chris chan tier autism with his “fashion” choices
is anyone surprised

[Anonymous No.19003183]

>>19003171
>is anyone surprised?
That you got filtered? No, not really.

[Anonymous No.19003207]

>>19003051
>>19003064
oh no no no no no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0CSo0tyhYA

[Anonymous No.19003339]

>>19002951
hahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.19003355]

>>19003064
Not surprising that Bakker and Bakkerchads are also Sandlechads.

[Anonymous No.19003407]

>>19002951
literally me at the back

[Anonymous No.19003610]

Titus Groan is a genuine masterpiece, incredibly intricate. I love how the characters are simultaneously cartoonish and complex, and that there are just characters - no heroes and no villains, except maybe Steerpike. The book seems to start to devolve towards the last quarter, switching to present tense and doing that thing where a characters accent is telegraphed by writing, for example, "yis" instead of "yes." At least once the narration breaks the fourth wall.

[Anonymous No.19003708]

My friend’s littlest wants me to read The Colour of Magic for them like before bed, but they’re not too old (tween), so I’m not sure they’re going to appreciate the humour much beyond the slapstick moments.

[Anonymous No.19003725]

>DAW books is accepting unsolicited submissions
this is my chance boys, wish me luck

[Anonymous No.19003731]

>>19002951
>Branderman Sanderfan

[Anonymous No.19003734]

>>19003708
Read them Wee Free Men or The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents. Discworld but geared toward that age.

[Anonymous No.19003755]

>>19003725
good luck anon

[Anonymous No.19003756]

>>19003734
>Wee Free Men or The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents
Thanks, anon! I’ll order these. I read Colour of Magic at that age and cherished it, but I’m heavily autistic and weird, so not sure if that was just my proclivity to have a bizarre book of jokes without much else going on in it.

[Anonymous No.19003762]

>>19003708
Pick something else, there's too many gags that just aren't funny for kids, especially if they're not already well rooted in fantasy

[Anonymous No.19003801]

>>19003762
Well, my favourite movie was Austin Powers as a kid. I think children enjoy that quirky sense of humour despite not knowing all about the spy movies and James Bond movies that it satirises. Thanks for the feedback though.

[Anonymous No.19003866]

>>19001704
>/mvcgg/ - Mango and Vidya Game General

[Anonymous No.19003889]

>>19001874
Bakker

[Anonymous No.19004013]

Is this good?
Been reading for a while but I'm not liking it so far

[Anonymous No.19004043]

>>19004013
just drop it if you dont like it

[Anonymous No.19004087]

>>19004013
Then stop reading it, stupid.

[Anonymous No.19004130]

>>19004013
It's ok

[Anonymous No.19004172]

>>19004013
Read it a couple of weeks ago. The book is decent, but it's not clever or mind-blowing. The plot gets worse with each act, and I didn't find the resolution of the main mystery satisfying.

[Anonymous No.19004472]

>>19002748
Actually, it is your problem, and you did ask.

[Anonymous No.19004627]

>>19002186
I seriously can't tell if the person on the left is a man or a woman.

[Anonymous No.19004650]

Any book with short stories of someone traveling? I read Kino's Journey and really enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.19004654]

>>19001874
The First Law.

[Anonymous No.19005290]

wtf

[Anonymous No.19005363]

>>19003051
Unironically retarded.

[Anonymous No.19005379]

>>19004627
Judging by his boobs and wide hips, defenetly a man.

[Anonymous No.19005383]

>>19004013
same

[Anonymous No.19005540]

>>19004013
I didn't read that one but I was very disappointed by Perdido Street Station. The world building is pretty incredible but in the end there's really not much to the story and it ends up being quite predictable. I kept waiting for it to get good but it never did, I kind of wish I hadn't finished it.

[Anonymous No.19005580]

>>19002846
Doesn't make sense to jew people by financing giant tomes that take years to write and ultimately appeal only to autists because normal people aren't willing to stick with book series for fucking decades and reread them regularly because authors like GURM like to take extended hiatuses so long that his audience grows up, gets children, and dies in the meantime. I doubt Bakker made any serious cash after spending 20+ years on Second Apocalypse, he still holds a day job.

[Anonymous No.19005605]

>read darkness that comes before
>two pages in and a child's already gotten raped

B-bros?

[Anonymous No.19005617]

>>19005580
Bakker isn't really a great example of epic fantasy with regard to book size. Most of his books are 400 and something pages, with only the last two in his series hitting something like 700 pages, which while on the bigger side is for books is still modest when compared to other writers in the genre.

[Anonymous No.19005710]

A. Moënghus

[Anonymous No.19005742]

>>19005605
There's no more rape in the novel other than Cuckvendi getting absolutely assraped at Kiyuth by Chadphas

[Anonymous No.19005754]

>>19001874
Call or the crocodile.

[Anonymous No.19005755]

>>19004013
Mieville wrote better books than that.

[Anonymous No.19005783]

>>19005605
not just rape but pederast rape

[Anonymous No.19005805]

>>19005742
>Trust me bro, There is no more rape besides that one time.... and the one after it... and two more in the next book.... it gets more hardcore so watch out hehe

[Anonymous No.19005834]

>>19005783
You said it like having a straight rape of child is significantly more acceptable

[Anonymous No.19005835]

>>19005834
t. pederast

[Anonymous No.19005906]

>>19004627
Woman

[Anonymous No.19005925]

>>19001704
>2021 hugo awards
oh boy, another year of "have to be a black woman or have an exotic name to qualify"

[Anonymous No.19005931]

>>19005906
Wasn't aware that there were Transwomen in the Wheel of Time universe.

[Anonymous No.19005932]

>>19005925
Are you a white supremacist?

[Anonymous No.19005942]

>>19005931
There isn't.

[Anonymous No.19005967]

>>19005925
Art awards are worthless.

[Anonymous No.19005973]

>>19005925
jealous retard

[Anonymous No.19005981]

>>19005925
at this point the hugos basically only exist to be mocked

[Anonymous No.19006017]

How come the Tekne, the science of a highly advanced spacefaring civilization capable of genetically engineering entire new species of complex organisms, wasn't able to create beings with intelligence equal to a group of recluse medieval monks who had to rely on the primitive technique of selective breeding to modify themselves?

[Anonymous No.19006022]

>>19005925
I'm just shocked how Martha Wells keeps finding her way into these.

[Anonymous No.19006029]

>>19006017
Because even the Inchoroi aren't complete beings. They're a weapon race, created only with the knowledge their creators deemed they needed.

We have no reason to assume any of the aliens we see in the series were created to be anything more than what they are.

[Anonymous No.19006044]

>>19006029
Pretty much this. They aren't all that different from the Sranc or Skin Spies, except they serve as generals rather than shock troops or agents.

[Anonymous No.19006047]

>>19006029
Right, but why didn't they make them smarter? One dunyain alone was enough to bring an entire world to its heel. If that's what a group of primitives can accomplish with limited resources, you'd think a race as highly advanced as theirs would be able to come up with something better.

[Anonymous No.19006049]

>>19006029
is it true that Inchoroi have BBCs?

[Anonymous No.19006066]

>>19006017
They didn't invent anything. They only replicated what was imprinted on them. And as far as we know, a lot of the knowledge was lost to them during the Arkfall.

[Anonymous No.19006069]

>>19006047
You don't know who or what the Dunyain truly are. So the same goes for them.

[Anonymous No.19006086]

>>19006069
To add to this, the Anasurimbor are the only Dunyain whose "human" past we can actually trace. Which would explain a lot of things.

[Anonymous No.19006095]

>>19006069
Fair enough. It still seems silly how they could outdo the Tekne with only selective breeding from a very limited pool size, but until the entire circumstances surrounding the dunyain are revealed I guess I can't write it off as nonsensical.

[Anonymous No.19006128]

>>19005932
yes?

[Anonymous No.19006134]

>>19006095
The Tekne is more or less bent exclusively to creating engines of genocide. The Inchoroi while having more agency than the other weapon races, are still tools.
It also pays to remember that this is the only planet where they have encountered sorcery, it took them off guard and by the time the wars with the nonmen ended there were only two of them left, the Tekne had been largely forgotten and would only be recovered over the course of hundreds of years through retro-engineering with the help of the humans who reawakened them.

Despite the threat they posses by the time the Dunyain come around the Inchoroi are very much on their last leg.

[Anonymous No.19006138]

>>19006047
>Right, but why didn't they make them smarter?
Given we know nothing about their true purpose, nor who made them, we can't really answer that. They (the creators of the Inchoroi) could have had more advanced flesh constructs, with Inchoroi being fairly low down the totem pole. Those could have not been present, or died in the Arkfall. We've no idea.

Furthermore, much of their shit was destroyed during the actual crash:
>According to the Nonman King, not one in a hundred Inchoroi survived the Ark’s fall from the heavens, and yet a thousand thousand of them had warred against the Nonmen over the course of their innumerable wars.

One dunyain was enough to bring a continent of humans to heel. Humans. He co-opted leadership of a bunch of civilisations. And Kellhus is exceptional, even for a dunyain.

>>19006049
BSCs yes. (black seed cocks)

[Anonymous No.19006316]

>>19006022
in what sense

[Anonymous No.19006331]

>>19006022
I mean, her books made it through to the list before, and she keeps writing the same book
naturally it follows that they'll keep making the lists

(I'm kidding, I know there are development/whatver. But, the main gimmick of the Murderbut stuff, the state of the main character, it's going to get stale.)

[Anonymous No.19006348]

>Hadley Whitaker is a liar, a killer, and a chocoholic, but she’s getting better about the first two. Or maybe she’s just getting better at them.
>Some days it’s hard for her to tell fact from fiction, but only one truth matters. Goddess willing, she’s going to be the next Potentate of Atlanta. Even if it means playing nice with Midas Kinase, a shifter whose mysterious past might just be grimmer than her own.
>When a bloodthirsty rogue begins hunting the city’s paranormals, Hadley ropes Midas into letting her work the case. But that rope starts to feel more like a noose as they come closer to discovering not only the rogue’s identity, but each other’s darkest secrets. (less)

That premise sounds like PG-13 Anne Rice, for some reason.

[Anonymous No.19006375]

>>19005925
>>19005981
>>19006128
Name a SciFi fantasy author to publish in 2020 (or however the timing works for this awards, I don't care)
who is a white man, who's book was good

I can name; Adrian Tchaikovsky, Peter F. Hamilton and Neal Asher

The latter one of those is very niche. And I won't argue Neal Asher is for everyone, even if I think he is criminally underread.
The others didn't "wow" me, even if I still really enjoyed them, they have written very similar books before, that was better received by critics.
Not a lot to pick from. Unless you are rooting for Drandoom Sanderstorm.

[Anonymous No.19006390]

>>19006138
>(black seed cocks)
THAS RIGHT!!!! BIG BLACK SEED!

[Anonymous No.19006398]

>>19006375
because only bisexual women of le color get published now

[Anonymous No.19006402]

>>19006390
>THAS RIGHT!!!! BIG BLACK SEED!

[Anonymous No.19006404]

>>19006375
>a white man
these creatures are no more, we are in the year 2089 sir, white boys got castrated a long time ago, only white women and white sissies are allowed, white men are no more.

[Anonymous No.19006408]

>>19006128
Does your mother know?

[Anonymous No.19006426]

>>19006404

[Anonymous No.19006429]

Got sent this by a mentor.
What does this imply they think of me/my taste?

[Anonymous No.19006440]

>>19006404
Sounds great, is it also illegal to listen to Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson? If so, sign me up

[Anonymous No.19006457]

>>19006348
>Hadley Whitaker
>author is Hailey Edwards
Have women no shame?
Also
>but she's getting better...or maybe she's just getting better
Wat

[Anonymous No.19006462]

>>19006404
>>19006398
So it's the genera that is a joke, not the awards?
Get your facts straight..

[Anonymous No.19006469]

>>19006440
You're doing a shit job refuting him if Rogaine and Juden Benzostein is what comes to mind when it comes to masculine white cultural figures

[Anonymous No.19006473]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm9ef-rUhRo

Bakker broke him, lads.

[Anonymous No.19006480]

How many books is the ideal length of a fantasy series?

[Anonymous No.19006482]

>>19006480
0

[Anonymous No.19006496]

>>19006462
publishing and the hugos are entwined you dense nigger

[Anonymous No.19006505]

>>19006480
About 5 or 6.
The first few books for the author to work out how their characters and world should be. And then the latter few books to take what they built prior and really flesh it out.

[Anonymous No.19006517]

>>19006480
One. Honestly I don't believe that there are stories that can require more than a 1000 pages to be told. Those bloated 5000+ page series are full of fluff and glacial character development. And it's part of the fun I guess, I don't mind reading books that explicitly aim to assassinate my time for no reason, but I would much prefer self-contained stories told in the same universe.

[Anonymous No.19006528]

>>19006469
What is there to refute? They're examples of the types of pseuds that people like him look up to.
> Juden Benzostein
Are you an anti-Semite?

[Anonymous No.19006555]

it is 2129, most white people are extinct, especially Prussian people, all white people with Prussian blood were sissified and their women fucked by Big Black HONKY Men.

[Anonymous No.19006564]

>>19006480
it's entirely dependent on the series for me. with something like malazan or the second apocalypse i enjoy having a lot to get through. mistborn however was really stretching it at just 3 books.

[Anonymous No.19006568]

>>19006440
Jordan Peterson is already sissified

[Anonymous No.19006827]

>>19006480
3. One to establish the setting and the story, one to build on the first and lead into the third with a big change, and one to finish it all up neatly.

[Anonymous No.19006908]

What's the one book you recommend to people out of spite?

[Anonymous No.19006964]

>>19006462
one doesn't excuse the other. also, guess who's works get promoted.

[Anonymous No.19006979]

>>19006480
>series
not necessary at all. reason for series or even trilogies has almost always been financial in nature. it's not like publishers CAN'T publish a 1000+ page tome, they just won't.

[Anonymous No.19007024]

>>19006482
Based

[Anonymous No.19007314]

>>19003064
>zaudunyanicon
Kill me.

[Anonymous No.19007319]

>>19007314
Have you read the books?

[Anonymous No.19007325]

>>19007319
Yes, that's why the name is killing me with cringe.

[Anonymous No.19007384]

I'm reading The Forever War. I don't get it, Heinlein told me that joining the army to kill some alien bugs was...LE GOOD!

[Anonymous No.19007393]

>>19006017
The Inchoroi were originally lead by a godlike AI, think of the Mind's in the Culture series if you've read that. The thing broke during the crash. The actual Inchoroi are the niggers of space. There was no need for them to be hyper smart, as a cubic mile of electronics was supposed to do the thinking for them.

>>19006134
Something like 99.9% of all Inchoroi died during Arkfall and it did a similar number on their technology. Sorcery surprised them, but they were utterly fucked even before they encountered that.

[Anonymous No.19007461]

>>19003064
>>19007319
>>19007325
Surely Adunyani(con) would be the better name.

[Anonymous No.19007511]

>>19003051
Is Bakker even still alive. I don't think he's posted anything since early 2020?

[Anonymous No.19007645]

>>19003051
Obsessed

[Anonymous No.19007658]

>>19002846
t. filtered by malazan

[Anonymous No.19007663]

>>19007461
What the fuck does that even mean?

[Anonymous No.19007713]

>>19007461
Both are cringe. They refer to people who were deceived by Kellhus into becoming le edgy atheist or le cringe tradcath respectively.

Just use the name of the continent or something like normal people instead of being euphoric about your own intelligence.

[Anonymous No.19008245]

>>19007713
Thats my point though. At least with Adunyani the term is somewhat ironic and self-deprecating, since in the story they served a super minor role and were used up by Kellhus almost immediately.

'Tribe of truth' is far gayer than 'little dunyain'.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.19008262]

>>19001704
Priest of Gallows (War for the Rose Throne #3) - Peter McLean (2021)
After coming off from the personal disappointment that was the ending of the second book, I was concerned that would affect my enjoyment of third book. Thankfully, it didn't. While this book was significantly divergent in many ways, mainly my expectation of where it was going and what characters would be doing, I still derived great pleasure from the many happenings. Perhaps that's the wrong thing to say considering some of the brutal scenes, but it's true. There was one character in particular that I had great hopes for, but it doesn't seem that will be the case.
The greatest addition to my enjoyment from this trilogy has been the narrative voice of the protagonist, mostly literally, though also figuratively. As this is an entirely subjective matter, it may not have any bearing on its worthwhileness for most others, as I haven't the slightest idea how common this sort of reaction would be. It's so integral to my reading of this though that it bears mentioning. One of the reason I don't listen to audiobooks is that it's just odd to me to not to be hearing my own internal narration.
The greatest subtraction from my enjoyment for this book in particular was the decision to include several contemporary events and concerns, by which I mean almost verbatim sayings and occurrences from recent years. Maybe future readers won't connect it to what was happening at the time, but I'm a present day reader. The ending also disappointed again with how overdone it was and what it seems the fourth book will be about. I'll probably still rather enjoy it overall and give it a four star rating as well. If it weren't for the two aforementioned problems I may have rated this 4.5 rounded up. There are a lot of questionable choices and not the slightest hint of subtlety in any way whatsoever, but it's just too much fun for me to really care.
Rating: 4/5

[Anonymous No.19008269]

>>19003171
>fashion
>beige shorts and a tee
OH GOD HOW DARE HE DRESS AS ....UHHH....REGULAR HUMAN

[Anonymous No.19008301]

>>19001722
Is this supposed to be a positive transformation?

[Anonymous No.19008330]

FUCK E William Brown
Nothing 2020
Nothing 2021

[Anonymous No.19008355]

>>19008269
Only roasties rail on khakis.

[Anonymous No.19008412]

>>19003064
>tfw you will never get to hang out with the Holy-Author and your fellow Bakkerbros chilling in sandals, khaki shorts, and semi-ironic graphic tshirts, shooting the shit about Eârwa IRL
why even live

[Anonymous No.19008506]

>>19008412
>>tfw you will never get to hang out with the Holy-Author and your fellow Bakkerbros chilling in sandals, khaki shorts, and semi-ironic graphic tshirts, shooting the shit about Eârwa IRL

[Anonymous No.19008536]

>>19008506
the spammer schizo is back
>>>/qa/

[Anonymous No.19008561]

>>19008412
this bakker cringer is back

[Anonymous No.19008563]

>>19008561
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19008567]

>>19008536
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19008587]

I finally finished my 50 books goal for this year, now i will read very slowly if at all.

[Anonymous No.19008598]

>>19008587
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19008619]

>>19008598
>>19008567
>>19008563

[Anonymous No.19008624]

>>19008598
Cope

[Anonymous No.19008631]

>>19008567
Didn't ask.

[Anonymous No.19008747]

>>19008587
Do you retain any of it?

[Anonymous No.19008871]

>>19008747
didn't ask.

[Anonymous No.19008874]

>>19008747
Different anon here who has read a lot more than that.
No, not really, but I don't think that really matters. Why would it?

[Anonymous No.19008897]

>>19008561
>>19008567
>>19008598
>>19008871

[Anonymous No.19008899]

>>19008747
I clearly remember the good books and the ones I hated, the ones I felt meh about just coalesced into one confused mess, but I really could care less about them so I'm happy with the outcome.
True I read voraciously this year but I still payed attention to the writing.

[Anonymous No.19008912]

>>19008874
To me, it seems the whole point of reading is to absorb the information. Why else spend your time looking at words on a page? If you just want a mind numbing activity, there are better ways.

>>19008899
ok. I doubt you remembered much, but ok. I hope you at least return to the good books.

[Anonymous No.19008936]

Tad Willians was mentioned here before and I read some of his fantasy and quite liked it. But I'm in the mood for sci-fi and I see he also has written a sci-fi series.
My issue is that the premise of the first book don't seem to appeal to me that much (some seemingly cliché plot about virtual reality).
Any anon here has read the Otherland series/ can anyone tell me if it's worth it?

I tried getting into xeelee but bakker writing just didn't pull me in, and one thing tad does very well is write puling stories.

[Anonymous No.19008956]

>when he has a Black Seed
-from the book series Prince of Nothing

[Anonymous No.19008957]

>>19008912
Friend I'm not studying or trying to memorize the books. I'm reading for pleasure. There is no need to study each and every books, especially if it's fiction.

[Anonymous No.19009003]

>>19008957
It's not studying, it's savoring. It's tasting. When you wolf your food down, you don't get to truly enjoy it. When you truly enjoy something, you want to consume it again. Feel that sensation again.
You don't listen to music once, do you? Or watch shows only once? Well I guess you might. But say you're watching TV, and a show you like reruns, you might rewatch it. Movies, video games, etc. When they're good, you go back for more.

The idea that you're just peeling through books ever forward like a shark is bleak.

[Anonymous No.19009022]

>>19008245
>>19007713
You talk like a pair of women who become enraged at the sight of men having fun without them.
Very womanish behavior

[Anonymous No.19009033]

>>19009003
Not that anon, but I fail to see anything "bleak" about it. Most fiction is just mindless nonsense. Those rare fantasy books that are worth more, I do take time with and will often revisit them.

[Anonymous No.19009165]

How does Lord of Light rank? I never read any zelazny, seems like a good place to start if any

[Anonymous No.19009179]

Should I read Culture?
I haven't read much sci-fi before, but I like Watts, Reynolds, Morgan and Bakker
Not sure if I'm ready to get into another 10 book series right now, unless its really good.

[Anonymous No.19009220]

>>19009165
It's very good. One word of warning is that Zelazny is very different from modern authors. His stories are very fast paced and, while there is action, it is usually over quickly. Don't go in expecting big epic battles or you'll be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.19009228]

>>19009179
read the first two books, if you loved them go on to the rest, otherwise you might want to give it a pass.

[Anonymous No.19009308]

>>19008301
Yes

[Anonymous No.19009318]

How will Bakkerchuds ever recover?

[Anonymous No.19009367]

>>19009318
lol they look like MGTOW soijacks

[Anonymous No.19009381]

What an absolute chad.

[Anonymous No.19009384]

>>19009318
>Gretchen Felker-Martin
He kinda looks like Chris-Chan DESU

[Anonymous No.19009387]

kino?

[Anonymous No.19009394]

>>19009384
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.19009408]

>>19009384
>>19009318
I wasn't planning on reading Bakker, but this is too much.

[Anonymous No.19009416]

>>19009381
he imagines her getting Seeded by an Inchoroi BBC

[Anonymous No.19009422]

>>19006480
Seven.

[Anonymous No.19009425]

Inchoroi World Order, everyone is Seeded

[Anonymous No.19009429]

>>19009384
Average Bakker hater revealed

[Anonymous No.19009446]

>>19001704
A hobby of mine is thinking up supernatural abilities that people in a story or comic/manga could have. My problem though is that I can't help but examine how someone would take any power to its total logical extreme.
For an example of this, take My Hero Academia and that kid who can control people's minds if they answer a question he asks. That is genuinely an SSS rank power; nearly anything that allows direct control of another person is very powerful, and thus one has such an easy condition for activating that someone could very feasibly trigger it on very influential people (billionaire CEOs, politicians) without anyone even noticing. And instead he broadcasts it in an extra curricular school tournament. It's like if someone obtained the Death Note and used it only to perform more humane executions, or if The Flash only used his speed to deliver pizza.
Anyway, I just wish I didn't get so autistic about this kind of thing. It's clear that many authors and artists put less thought into the powers in their stories and easily get away with it since the target audience of these sorts of works aren't super critical.

[Anonymous No.19009451]

You may never stop kneeling

[Anonymous No.19009495]

>>19009318
Jealous that Bakker writes better rapes than she does.

[Anonymous No.19009516]

>>19009451

[Anonymous No.19009559]

>>19009381
Reminder that this is BUG(Watts' wife)

[Anonymous No.19009562]

is Mythago Wood any good

[Anonymous No.19009568]

>>19009495
>she

[Anonymous No.19009569]

>>19009559
I wouldn't know any of those names.

[Anonymous No.19009586]

>sffg
more like author stalking

[Anonymous No.19009590]

This is a Bakker general after all.

[Anonymous No.19009593]

>>19009569
Watts as in the other canuck. The one who wrote Blindsight.

[Anonymous No.19009609]

>>19009568
Oh, and a Tranny too? Typical lol.

[Anonymous No.19009617]

>>19009593
Bakker fucked space-vampire-man's wife?

[Anonymous No.19009647]

>>19005925
The best fantasy novel and novella of that period are on the list, don't see the issue

[Anonymous No.19009651]

>>19009617
https://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=2787

[Anonymous No.19009676]

>>19009318
>>19009384
>"Grrrrr I really fricking hate bakker. He is such a bigot and sexist."
>Name is fucking Gretchen
>Obese and very ugly
You can't make this shit up lmao

[Anonymous No.19009693]

>>19009384
No wonder she got filtered. Look at how obese she is.

[Anonymous No.19009707]

>>19009693
>>19009676
It’s a tranny and he writes awful grimderp torture porn that nobody reads. His seething hatred of our Holy-Author is clearly jealousy and projection.

[Anonymous No.19009721]

>>19009707
>he writes awful grimderp torture porn
so it's Bakker?

[Anonymous No.19009732]

I need hacker sci fi.

[Anonymous No.19009742]

>>19009721
That's the point, dude can't handle competition it seems.

[Anonymous No.19009760]

Asking here, do you prefer sci fi (if cyberpunk enough) to be grand or small personal scale conflict, having issues with my novel? I might want to do something but I think it's too much

[Anonymous No.19009782]

>>19009707
I actually thought that of all people edgy trannies would be the ones to really get Bakker considering that the few I have actually dealt with were all Landians.

[Anonymous No.19009824]

>>19009760
I prefer Hard Rape in my sci-fi

[Anonymous No.19010033]

https://twitter.com/scumbelievable/status/759151612870946816

ah you're mad because they absolutely nailed bakker half a decade ago lol

[Anonymous No.19010065]

>>19010033
That was before transition.

[Anonymous No.19010074]

S.C.A.T. or get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.19010079]

>>19010065
This.

Bakker probably broke him when he realized he would be a cück all his life.

[Anonymous No.19010147]

Bakker is fine and all but can you fuckers stop talking about him nonstop?
This has been bakker general for a while and I'1m quite sick of it.

[Anonymous No.19010210]

>>19010147
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19010254]

>>19010033
>2016
>zero likes
>zero retweets
>zero reading comprehension

Bakkerchads, I'm feeling really BTFO rn

[Anonymous No.19010336]

>>19010147
Sorry anon. But the problem with boards like 4chan, is that any autist can make the same posts as many times as they like. And because they're autists, they get into these repetitive behaviors. If it's not posting about Bakker, then it's something else. You should realize by now that most of 4chan's threads are made by only the most dedicated autists. They effectively dictate the content of the entire site, since their constant reposts grooms users to act in accordance.

The only winning move is to leave 4chan.

[Anonymous No.19010372]

>>19010336
>The only winning move is to leave 4chan.
Loser hands typed this.

[Anonymous No.19010453]

>>19010147
you could just talk about the things you enjoy instead
and if you end up ignored, well, maybe you're the one with shit taste

[Anonymous No.19010470]

>>19009425
Is this an actual book?

[Anonymous No.19010511]

>>19010470
What do you think?

[Anonymous No.19010513]

>>19010511
I don't think.

[Anonymous No.19010517]

>>19010513
Does it trouble you?

[Anonymous No.19010546]

>>19010517
No.

[Anonymous No.19010552]

>>19010546
not my problem

[Anonymous No.19010562]

>>19010552
Based.

[Anonymous No.19010586]

>>19010562
didn't ask

[Anonymous No.19010602]

>>19009732
neuromancer

[Anonymous No.19010621]

Why is this thread such trash?

[Anonymous No.19010627]

>>19010336
This is all accurate and fine. However, I’m not an autist… just an asshole.

[Anonymous No.19010628]

>>19010621
Bakkerfags derailing it like usual.

[Anonymous No.19010629]

>>19009732

What kind?

[Anonymous No.19010637]

>>19010621
Because of the cannibals.

[Anonymous No.19010639]

>>19009179

Skip it. The Algebraist is his best by a huge margin.

[Anonymous No.19010648]

>>19008936
>Any anon here has read the Otherland series/ can anyone tell me if it's worth it?

I absolutely hated it. Just nothing of interest in either plot or ideas. Total snooze.

[Anonymous No.19010659]

I don't have friends, I only have Bakker and he is my King.

[Anonymous No.19010690]

>>19010336
cry more, faggotini

[Anonymous No.19010702]

>>19008936
If you didn't like the first book you won't like the rest of it. The individual vr worlds can be evocative, but the cast and plot is so bloated it feels like multiple cyberpunk stories got mashed together into one lumbering hulk.

[Anonymous No.19010725]

I've come to really favor the 'sorcery' aspect of Sword & Sorcery over the 'sword' side these days. I think 'sorcery' has more fertile ground for storytelling and weirdness in general; whereas 'sword' is pretty limited in its focus on action first and foremost. It doesn't help the majority of 'sword' focused S&S writers just aren't that creative or stylistic when writing action. Hell this isn't even a problem with S&S writers, but most writers in general who write action.

[Anonymous No.19011008]

Do any of you have books or articles by Takayuki Tatsumi in pdf? I have only found two. Robot Ghosts and Wired Dreams and Fullmetal Apache.

[Anonymous No.19011046]

>>19010725
I would heartily recommend the works of Brandon Sanderson who has helped modernize and popularize the concept of "hard magic", which is basically the idea that magic needs rules to make sense just as there are rules for science. Fantasy can largely be divided in to before and after Sanderson, a divide which is synonymous with Unrealistic and Realistic fantasy.

[Anonymous No.19011062]

"hard gay" it means that you can be homo and not be hecking SJW, popularized by Bakker the king of sffg

[Anonymous No.19011063]

>>19011046
Reported.

[Anonymous No.19011069]

this is a Bakker general, if you are not a BakkerChad you get REPORTED.

Not my problem.
Didn't ask.

[Anonymous No.19011353]

>>19006480
Infinite

[Anonymous No.19011413]

>>19009760
if you have an idea you should follow it and see where it goes, small or large scale is equally valid. don't second guess before you've started

[Anonymous No.19011908]

>>19008262
Once again, I appreciate your contribution to this general.

[Anonymous No.19011951]

>>19011908
Seems like a waste to have considering how many anons are always so intent on derailing this threads.

[Anonymous No.19011981]

>>19011951
Mods only remove posts and don't ban the autists who posted them.

[Anonymous No.19012009]

>>19011981
Mods removing basedjack posts is a good start.

[Anonymous No.19012023]

>>19002769
Jesus Christ, this dude really does just look like a Chad. I'd follow him into Golgoterrath.

[Anonymous No.19012043]

>>19012023
looks more like jesus

[Anonymous No.19012049]

>>19011981
Wish they’ll do something with the bakker spam.

[Anonymous No.19012062]

>>19012049
Eternal cock of Bakker will leak CUM on /sffg/ forever, I accept your surrender

[Anonymous No.19012074]

>>19006457
better about vs better at, retard

That's not to say the whole concept isn't nonsense, but learn how to fucking read

[Anonymous No.19012102]

>So you're saying your protagonist is a result of a millenium long eugenics experiment conducted by a weird monastic order who was bred for his ability to calculate the possibilies around him to the point of being able to predict the future, and he calls this ability a Path, huh? And he leads a nation of islamic warriors too? Damn, thats cool, Frank Herbert!

[Anonymous No.19012181]

>>19012102
Feisty Twink that's radiating submissive oral service energy

[Anonymous No.19012326]

Can't you guys talk about someone else other than Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19012335]

>>19012326
That would mean actually discussing books and we know they don’t read for shit.

[Anonymous No.19012360]

>>19012335
I just don't want to see the same shit posted in every thread.

[Anonymous No.19012364]

>>19012326
Find a better series and we will. Pro tip, you can't.

[Anonymous No.19012366]

>>19012364
There’s several better series than Baker’s.

[Anonymous No.19012380]

>>19012366
you should start a discussion on it

[Anonymous No.19012384]

>>19012380
Several people do, they get drown out by the bakkerspam.

[Anonymous No.19012391]

>>19012384
They wouldn't if the series you don't even mention were any good. Maybe someday someone here will care about Reverend Insanity, but not while Bakker is around.

[Anonymous No.19012401]

>>19012391
Ah yes, because having several people spamming the same shit won’t kill any discussion.

[Anonymous No.19012407]

>>19012401
This, hard to carry a discussion when people are shitting up the thread.

[Anonymous No.19012408]

>>19012366
Like what?

[Anonymous No.19012413]

>>19012407
>>19012401
Literally no one has read or cares about your incel series. If they did, more people would flock to the thread and happily discuss it.

[Anonymous No.19012419]

>>19012413
Stop projecting.

[Anonymous No.19012451]

>>19001722
Where do I read this?

[Anonymous No.19012458]

>>19012451
https://shugui.wordpress.com/teasers/daoist-gu/dg-chapter-1/

[Anonymous No.19012460]

>>19012458
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.19012465]

>>19012458
>this "prose"

[Anonymous No.19012466]

>>19012458
do you retards actually read this or is this some kind of long running gag

[Anonymous No.19012469]

>>19012466
Seems alright, no different than western novels.

[Anonymous No.19012470]

>>19006408
yes

[Anonymous No.19012472]

>>19012469
on a scale of 1 to 10 how ESL are you?

[Anonymous No.19012473]

>>19012469
This

[Anonymous No.19012475]

New thread
>>19012474

[Anonymous No.19012499]

>>19012466
they're retarded ESLs that only "read" "books" for surface-level entertainment, similar to watching a capeshit movie on goyflix
>>19012469
*no different than brandon sandersoom
sam shit i guess

this is why this general will always belong to writers who can actually write: Tolkien, Herbert, Wolfe, Zelazny, and Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19012837]

Is anyone reading Abercrombies wisdom of crowds? Is it any good? I was let down by the first two books so not sure if this one is worth reading

[Anonymous No.19012948]

Any good psychedelic or mentally ill science fiction fantasy?