Kaczynski bread

[Anonymous No.18985643]

I was rereading Industrial Society and It's Future, and I noticed when Ted speaks of lefties as the power hungry types, who attempt to impose their beliefs and morals on others (which is correct), he does the exact same thing. He speaks of revolution and creation of a revolutionary movement, that would go on and impose his ideas and philosophy on others. He goes as far as predicting that violence will be unavoidable. So how do you differentiate between Ted and lefties when it comes to this? Would not he be then, by his own definition, a leftie?

[Anonymous No.18985670]

No, leftshits seek control to overcome what they perceive as their own shortcomings, which they project onto othersto cope woth the shame they feel, the shame that they are human.

Ted just wants to undo the damage caused by the industrial revolution and its consequences.

[Anonymous No.18985675]

>>18985643
I dunno OP. Honestly I’m a bit tired for this sort of thing and am going to head to bed.

[Anonymous No.18985773]

>>18985670
>seek control to overcome what they perceive as their own shortcomings, which they project onto othersto cope woth the shame they feel, the shame that they are human.
This is literally what Ted was doing...

[Anonymous No.18985776]

>>18985670
>Bomb a bunch of random people thinking civilization was going to Fall
Anon, I don't think your head is on right if you think Ted was doing anything meaningful.

[Anonymous No.18985791]

>>18985776
>bomb people to bring attention to his manifesto
>the bombing of people brings attention to his manifesto
I don't think you've read him. Very strange to enter a Ted thread without reading this very simple and accessible piece of literature. What's your agenda?

[Anonymous No.18985793]

>>18985643

Didnt he go into a tangent about chinese rulers and their consorts to make some kind of obtuse point about purpose?
He wasnt wrong about society relying in technology too much but...dude was a literal nutjob looking to blame people for being a nutjob.

[Anonymous No.18985802]

>>18985791
>He brought attention his Manifesto
Yeah, and what did that do? Had absolutely no effect on anything - lmfao. Now he's a loser rotting in jail. But, you're half right - he was just a loser seeking attention. His "critique" of civilization was a facade for his resentment towards his lack of fame and fortune in life.
>read him
I don't waste my time reading garbage. My time is limited, and I only read things worth it.

[Anonymous No.18985803]

>>18985793
>dude was a literal nutjob looking to blame people for being a nutjob.
You mean the MK Ultra experiments on him were his fault? He was just kind of weird before that.

[Anonymous No.18985804]

>>18985791

>the bombing of people brings attention to his manifesto

That's called terrorism, he was a terrorist

[Anonymous No.18985809]

>>18985804
Moving goalposts and still trying to argue after having admitted that you didn't read him. What's the fucking point? What's your vested interest in this? What about it makes you seethe?
>>18985802
>he was a terrorist
Ye. Glad I was there to witness your revelation.

[Anonymous No.18985814]

>>18985809
>Being so retarded you can't even reply to peoples' post correctly
You must have been so mad you switched it up on accident.

[Anonymous No.18985821]

>this thread
I want foids to leave

[Anonymous No.18985825]

>>18985809

The bombing anon, the fucking bombing is not seperate from the manifesto because bombing was the only way for people to know he had a manifesto.

Al Qaeda had the same playbook. Why arent you reading about how the US government is evil from them? Because Ted said something that you construe as "owning the libs" so now you're invested in his insanity. The man isnt rotting in ADX Florence because he's was too much of a galaxy brain genius anon

[Anonymous No.18985860]

>>18985825
>muh owning the libs
Ted was a lib. Antifa and BLM are just doing what Ted pioneered. Only people on the right I see championing Ted are the ecofas guys, and again those faggots are one painted nail away from being libshit comrades.

[Anonymous No.18985865]

>>18985860
The FBI really needs to do a better job clamping down on extremism.

[Anonymous No.18985869]

>>18985865
Eh, the FBI needs to be dismantled. But you know what they say about temporary authority.

[Anonymous No.18985872]

>>18985643
>He speaks of revolution and creation of a revolutionary movement, that would go on and impose his ideas and philosophy on others
He specifically implies two possible ways the System will come to an end. One is a violent revolution, and the other is the inevitable fact that it's going to strain itself to death. But yes, his idea of revolution would have to inevitably lead to some sort of collectivist hellhole, since there would have to be active effort to stop new technology that could over time become dangerous. But the revolution itself was just supposed to remove the enemy of the human race (technology), and the people who would defend it.
>He goes as far as predicting that violence will be unavoidable
Well yes, because when have the ruling class ever given up power willingly? Although he's also quite idealistic in this aspect. He thinks it's feasible to just realistically cause anti-technological uprisings across the world at the same time, while also preventing people wielding technology to just conquer back the world. There's a reason technology, as it gets more and more sophisticated, just takes over the world. Maybe he addresses it in one of his newer books.
>So how do you differentiate between Ted and lefties when it comes to this?
Lefties avoid any sort of direct violence, and the system is propagated by them through technology and social coercion, not direct violence. The psychology of the "leftist" (he uses this word in a very American way) isn't someone that actively fights for what he believes in. They spread their dogmas through social means, such as shaming, imprisoning etc. A leftist contributes to the system and uses technology to mask his shortcomings.

[Anonymous No.18985873]

>>18985791
>What's your agenda?
how big of a fucking dweeb to you have to be to post this, and on 4chan of all places

[Anonymous No.18985879]

>>18985872
Revolutions just change rulers - they never free human beings. Your Manichaeist world view makes you little than leftists because you both covet power. You would act no differently if you were in charge.

[Anonymous No.18985890]

>>18985872
>and the other is the inevitable fact that it's going to strain itself to death
This was one of Teds biggest slip ups imo. The "system" doesn't do anything "to death". If something stops working, the "system" stops doing that and finds something else. Society really is self correcting in the grand scheme of things.

[Anonymous No.18985892]

>>18985873
My agenda is more obligatory imagery of healthy women, to shame amerilardesses into dropping some fucking pounds.

[Anonymous No.18985895]

>>18985643
did this guy write any books or not
>ib4/thread

[Anonymous No.18985898]

>>18985895
unpublished authors are cool and radical

[Anonymous No.18985901]

>>18985814
>hehe you made a trivial mistake, that means I get to discredit valid arguments
>The bombing anon, the fucking bombing is not seperate from the manifesto because bombing was the only way for people to know he had a manifesto.
Well yes, that's what I mean. He didn't bomb those people to single handedly cause the revolution. He bombed them to bring attention to his manifesto. The anon I was replying to (who admitted he didn't read it) implied otherwise.
>Why arent you reading about how the US government is evil from them?
Do they have a manifesto in well translated English? I'd love to.
>Because Ted said something that you construe as "owning the libs" so now you're invested in his insanity.
Why are you just implying I agree with him because I read him, and used critical thinking on obvious shitposters? Why are you unable to differentiate between intellectual curiosity and worship? I've read Mein Kampf too, and will read Das Kapital. Do you know where you are?
>The man isnt rotting in ADX Florence because he's was too much of a galaxy brain genius anon
He was uncaught for decades, and cost the government a lot of money and time to catch him. Any midwit would be caught in days. Trying to discredit his intelligence, and not his obviously flawed and unpractical arguments in the manifesto is very telling, as is your investment in someone you haven't properly read.
>>18985879
Did you just not read my post, and just decided I was someone that agreed with his methods out of convenience? You obviously seem much more comfortable arguing in Twitter terms, where you get to just paint me as some manifestation of Ted himself, because I dared to read him. I did specifically said his ideas would lead to collectivistic enforcement of the revolutionary dogmas. The internet has warped your brain.
>This was one of Teds biggest slip ups imo. The "system" doesn't do anything "to death". If something stops working, the "system" stops doing that and finds something else. Society really is self correcting in the grand scheme of things.
Agreed there. However, I think his view of the System was specifically at his weird cut off at the Industrial revolution. So in his dream world, where we magically undo technological progress, the system would not exist, even if it was just replaced by a different form, something more to his liking.

[Anonymous No.18985909]

>>18985901
Replying to >>18985825

[Anonymous No.18985930]

>>18985901
You're psued-posting on /lit/ - can you stop. You're trying way too hard to present yourself as an intellectual. You're not smart - you just like to hear yourself type.

[Anonymous No.18985940]

>>18985930
>nooooooooo you're typing out things i dont like aaaaaaaaaaaaa
Fuck off. If you can't bother to actually discredit the arguments themselves, at least be intelligent enough to either abandon the thread, or post le funny maymay. Touch grass tier reply.

[Anonymous No.18985947]

>>18985940
He had no arguments. He was just a pseud, and a sophist, like yourself. Nobody has to respect, or care, what you think here.

[Anonymous No.18985960]

>>18985940
The fact that he was a terrorist, a bomber, and a tranny discredits him and everything he wrote. I'm just gonna fun of retards like you who take him seriously.

[Anonymous No.18985963]

>>18985947
>pseud
>sophist
Welcome to /lit/, happy you caught on to all the board culture words so quickly. Bet you will start reading next week too!

[Anonymous No.18985973]

>>18985960
I mean sure, you're free to not take me seriously. Just like I bet many people would easily be able to not take you seriously if you bothered to type out an original thought. Your words don't have as much weight as you think they do.

[Anonymous No.18985978]

>>18985963
Go make a substack if you want to psued post. You're just not interesting enough to warrant a thread here.

[Anonymous No.18985981]

>>18985643
Makes you think no?
Its all a circus to keep you from looking at more immediate and direct issues like your finances, security, family, neighbors, etc.
Even a criticism of the system is part of the system. You read Ted Kac and feel "oh yeah industrial complex sucks" and all your direct and tangible frustrations are sublimated. You don't act on them anymore. You read this book, or any other criticism of the current state of things, and you're done.

[Anonymous No.18985986]

>>18985973
I assure you - I'm very hurt about people not taking me seriously on 4chan - of all places. You just don't know how much that hurts me.

[Anonymous No.18986008]

>>18985978
I didn't even make a thread. I responded to someone asking a question. The real question is, why do you keep engaging me, constantly repeating the two words you've learned during your short stay here?
>>18985981
>Its all a circus to keep you from looking at more immediate and direct issues like your finances, security, family, neighbors, etc.
Agreed there. So many fucking books talking about giant scale (in Ted's case he's talking about most of humanity) problems, while reminding people of immediate problems in their neighbourhoods and families would never sell, or get to the notoriety of Ted's manifesto.
>>18985986
Well you did come out with
>heh I'm not taking you seriously
as a way to le own me, so I am starting to think you actually do care what this specific group of nobodies thinks about you. Just giving me excuses to bump the thread so more effortposters come in. Meanwhile you can ctrl-tab to a different thread and spout meta-arguments as your social outlet.

[Anonymous No.18986009]

>>18986008
How are you still psued posting

[Anonymous No.18986016]

>>18986009
>L + ratio + you're white

[Anonymous No.18986022]

>>18986016
Did I break the psued?

[Anonymous No.18986037]

>>18986022
>maybe if i say pseud they'll accept me

[Anonymous No.18986047]

>>18985825
>The man isnt rotting in ADX Florence because he's was too much of a galaxy brain genius anon
Yes thats exactly why he is there, say what you want but his manifesto obviously hit a nerve.

[Anonymous No.18986052]

>>18986037
>He thinks 4chan is a site for acceptance
You need to go back to your twitter hugbox my friend

[Anonymous No.18986069]

>>18986052
You obviously are trying to fit in with board culture lol. It's cringe to use this site as a social outlet.
>>18986047
I think the bombings hit a nerve, and not necessarily the manifesto

[Anonymous No.18986081]

>>18986069
>You're to fit in bro!
Its cringe you think 4chan is a social club you "fit in." You're clearly a retard.
>It's cringe to use this site as a social outlet.
Pot, meet kettle

[Anonymous No.18986107]

>>18986081
>Its cringe you think 4chan is a social club you "fit in." You're clearly a retard.
I don't. You think it is, and as such are trying to fit in that. Is that too complex to figure out? Maybe that's why you're still in this thread, that obviously doesn't interest you. Keep bumping though.

[Anonymous No.18986116]

>>18986107
>You're trying to fit it
There's nothing to fit in. You're just retarded.

[Anonymous No.18986124]

>>18985643
>hate technology
>don't want to be like Ted
How does one deal with this? It doesn't seem like I have a choice if I want to be part of society. I can't even walk into a supermarket without scanning a QR code on a smartphone.

[Anonymous No.18986129]

>>18986124
Be Amish

[Anonymous No.18986156]

>>18986116
If you don't think 2016 refugees aren't using
>(You) based
as their own form of social currency you haven't been lurking long enough.
>>18986124
Go as close to the ideal as you can. Or join a community like the Amish, although I doubt that's feasible for most people with attachments to family. Self sufficiency is something I strive for, and it doesn't bring in any of the schizo shit Ted. Get good at cultivating food and not spending

[Anonymous No.18986186]

>>18985825
>Al Qaeda had the same playbook. Why aren't you reading about how the US government is evil from them?
There are people on /lit/ who still stand for the w*stern "values"?

[Anonymous No.18986197]

>>18985643
pynchon's better

[Anonymous No.18986213]

>>18986186
/lit/ is the antidote to poltroon faggotry go suck muhammads dick goatfucker

[Anonymous No.18986233]

>>18985901
>He bombed them to bring attention to his manifesto
Well, you couldn't just buy ads on 4chan back then.

[Anonymous No.18986553]

>>18985643
that's not his definition of leftism, see paragraphs 227-230 for some sort of a definition and 6-32 for more info on their mindset

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>>18985643
Rightie tightie, lefty loosy.

This dichotomy is as useless as IQ testing
The “Left” are about freedom. When they aren’t about freedom, they aren’t Left. Or “Green” in that four square thing. Any statists aren’t leftists/green field.
But social organization isn’t always constricting. It can be done in freedom.

[Anonymous No.18987200]

>>18985825
>Al Qaeda had the same playbook. Why arent you reading about how the US government is evil from them?
But I have read the Letter To America anon, havent you?

[Anonymous No.18987251]

>>18987200
>B-but they're the BAD guys. They hate our FREEDOM! They are EVIL!

[Anonymous No.18987278]

>>18987200
>B-but they're the BAD guys. They hate our FREEDOM! They are EVIL!
>Don't question the narrative!

[Anonymous No.18987289]

>>18987278
>Al-qaeda
YES.
>Don't question narrative
You mean don't accept Taliban, anti-American propaganda - yes.

[Anonymous No.18987408]

>>18987289
There is literally no reason for anyone other than a paid government agency intern to defend US at this point.
The empire fucked over the Foreigners it terrorizes. It's "allies" on whom it pushes the gay space nigger agenda. Or It's citiziens who get cucked.

[Anonymous No.18987512]

>>18987408
Why yes I do shill professionally for the government thanks for noticing

[Anonymous No.18987686]

>>18985802
His manifesto will inspire his spiritual successor to complete his mission of destroying civilization. I hate the antichrist.

[Anonymous No.18987720]

>>18985802
It was a first step。
Those who just write about it are rarely heard about。
He made it into a real, quantifiable ideology。
God Bless Kacznyksi - sama

[Anonymous No.18988195]

>>18985643
U didn't read shit

[Anonymous No.18988212]

>>18985825
You need to
GO BACK

[Anonymous No.18989020]

>>18987408
>America is a singular entity