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[Anonymous No.18975144]

>"Adolescence is not only an important period in life, but that it is the only period where one may speak of life in the full sense of the word. The attractile drives are unleashed around the age of thirteen, after which they gradually diminish, or rather they are resolved in models of behaviour which are, after all, only constrained forces. The violence of the initial explosion means that the outcome of the conflict may remain uncertain for years; this is what is called a transitory regime in electrodynamics. But little by little the oscillations become slower, to the point of resolving themselves in mild and melancholic long waves; from this moment on all is decided, and life is nothing more than a preparation for death. This can be expressed in a more brutal and less exact way by saying that man is a diminished adolescent.”

Uhhh...how are you supposed to refute this?

[Anonymous No.18975154]

>>18975144
he never went to college

[Anonymous No.18975176]

>>18975144
>Uhhh...how are you supposed to refute this?
You aren't.

[Anonymous No.18975191]

Uncle Michele proves once more that sexual conservatives are repressed coomers

[Anonymous No.18975204]

>>18975191
And sexual liberals?

[Anonymous No.18975237]

>>18975204
just remove the repressed part

[Anonymous No.18975250]

>>18975204
I don't think anyone who has truly fallen in love can be a sexual liberal

[Anonymous No.18975285]

>>18975144
I already learned this by watching anime.
Once you’re older than 18 your life is OVER and you are old lol

[Anonymous No.18975291]

>>18975250
That reads like a cope desu

[Anonymous No.18975324]

>>18975204
Sexual liberals are conservatives at heart (You have to enjoy human nature!!)

[Anonymous No.18975352]

>>18975144
You don't need to prepare for death. When the time comes, your body will know what to do, regardless of whether or not you prepared.

[Anonymous No.18975434]

>>18975144
By being 25 and still behaving like an adolescent.

[Anonymous No.18975451]

>>18975144
>The attractile drives

Pure fabrication.

[Anonymous No.18975494]

>>18975291
What you mean

[Anonymous No.18976436]

>>18975144
Life is more than sex

[Anonymous No.18977489]

>>18975144
And I spent it all alone, playing videogames.

[Anonymous No.18977530]

>>18975144
My drives and oscillations have never diminished
Every day they are getting stronger

[Anonymous No.18977534]

do you think we could set up a Q&A here with Houellebecq? does anyone have his email?

[Anonymous No.18977537]

He is French. Can we as a society stop taking Normans seriously?

[Anonymous No.18977542]

>>18975451
>puberty doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.18977609]

>>18975144
I didn't start giving a fuck about women and sex until I was 19-20, and by then it was already too late. Can this even be fixed?

[Anonymous No.18977692]

>>18975144
Not an outright refutation, but at 28 I am just starting to resonate with meaning. In my younger years I could tell you a rote response or a reason based response about almost any topic you could throw my way. But I was utterly tone deaf to the significance of events and opportunities (especially missed opportunities!) in my life. The constraints of modern society kept my experiences on rails other than my years of being a schizo and multiple commitals. I know that seems oxymoronic, but schizo episodes are not worth much in the meaning department other than to provide a backdrop against which reasoned and intentioned irrational behavior can stand out more distinctively.

It feels like I am waking from sleepwalking through life and discovering a depth of feeling in both new and old revisited experiences alike. I do feel that our modern experience with aging is radically different than the era he is describing. The forces that constrain behavior are so much stronger and deviation is far rarer because of social media both being an omnipresent voyuer and the eyes of the law. Not to mention providing a display of acceptable behavior to be mimicked unthinkingly without the inborn connection to feeling.

Just today I was struck by the idea that misbehavior and transgression is a fertile soil for community building. The saying "thick as thieves" takes on such a rich depth when you truly understand the potential for comradery born from shared guilt. There is so much potential beyond the border of modern society that many have written off unthinkingly without worrying about the cost or consequences.

[Anonymous No.18977758]

>>18975144
does it mean that job sucks because school sucks?

[Anonymous No.18977810]

>>18975144
there are passages similar to those in the books of F. Gardner, start with Call of the Crocodile if you want true despair but also want to have some fun

[Anonymous No.18977904]

>>18977810
Is that true? I've seen really good things about those books here, everyone is talking about them but I'm not sure if they are memeing.

[Anonymous No.18977955]

>>18977904
Yes, of course F. Gardner has some haters but his books are awesome

[Anonymous No.18977983]

I like Houellebecq because his writing reminds me of everything I've missed out and regret and my day to day depression.

[Anonymous No.18978751]

>spent 14-18 playing runescape and getting 99s
>other guys had sex
>ywn have a gf
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.18978767]

>>18975144
Ummmm, source? Never heard of this in my developmental psych textbooks

[Anonymous No.18978782]

>>18976436
F(fourteenth)PBP

[Anonymous No.18978800]

>>18978767
Can't tell if trolling or not...

[Anonymous No.18978872]

>>18975144
>how are you supposed to refute this?
by not peaking in high school

[Anonymous No.18978919]

[Anonymous No.18979016]

>>18977542

Yes.

[Anonymous No.18979102]

Adolescence isn't a real period of life at all. It's a limbo aberration between the two periods and much built-up market fetishised by adolescents, children, and adults.

[Anonymous No.18980378]

>>18978751

I got blown in the bathrooms by two different girls (separate occasions) and yet im right here with you.

You really shouldn't be grasping for blackpills. it isnt healthy

[Anonymous No.18980391]

Adolescence is literally a made up life stage so companies could market products to new demographics.

[Anonymous No.18981139]

>>18975144
it's a compelling statement but doesn't bear closer inspection.

The idea that the deepest groves of our personality being laid down in adolescence may even be true, though I suspect deeper and more fundamental lines are laid before the age of four. Adolescence is the integration of a sexual creature atop the asexual child which is a psychically violent process. The mind that is warped has however been in development for a long time already.

The quote also discounts changes post-adolescence which come about by examination and maturing. The maturing process is a change in matter of degrees, much less violent than occurred in adolescence, hoola-man is right in this. But where puberty shakes the foundations, maturation is like a fine brush. To discount it is to discount a finer resolution of life.

I'm also not totally convinced that dramatic changes in personality can not occur in adulthood. Taking mushrooms, experiencing certain religious experiences, bearing a child or experiencing extreme trauma are all things which can have profound impacts on the psyche.

[Anonymous No.18981228]

>>18975285
I'm 22 and I'm about to go to Tokyo. I play the piano and read books and go hiking with my cute girlfriend and make friends all around the world. You're just a loser.

[Anonymous No.18981255]

>>18975144
I doubt Houllebecq even believes his own bullshit.

[Anonymous No.18981275]

>>18977489
>>18978751
Videogames are worse for kids than alcohol. We should start enforcing age limits for gaming and gaming curfews for minors just as china (PBUT) did.

[Anonymous No.18981634]

>>18981275
China is inoculating its population against Western ailments. Videogames messed me up but now I read and go to college, which compared to other guys my age that fell for vidya, is an improvement. I narrowly avoided being a weedbro/video game escapist.

[Anonymous No.18981671]

He's right, you know

[Anonymous No.18981872]

>>18978751
i spent like 11-16 playing maplestory lol and then wasted the next 5 years after that playing csgo and then since that time have been doing god knows what and shitposting on 4chan

[Anonymous No.18981908]

Society if Houllebecq and had gotten laid in highschool and realized teenage pussy aint really all that (utopia)