Modern critical literature on Christianity

[Anonymous No.18968682]

>"pseudo" Dionysius
>"the author of Hebrews"
>the Yahwist source
>Q

Post more cringe and blue-pilled views on Christianity.

[Anonymous No.18969732]

>>18968682
You got a nice deal with the daily quotes directly to your email. Could you fix something like this for me too?

[Anonymous No.18969760]

>Gospels are anonymous
>Gospels were written more than 40 years after Jesus was crucified
>Paul didn’t write every letter attributed to him
>assumed methodological naturalism
Probably more than that. Academia spews out all sorts of nonsense about dating and ‘writing styles’ and everyone just eats it up. Pretty sad

[Anonymous No.18969768]

>Trinity isn’t in the Bible
This is THE number one pseud-filter.

[Anonymous No.18969774]

The bible is the WORD of GOD.

[Anonymous No.18969789]

>>18968682
>"pseudo" Dionysius
Do you think those writings actually came from the dionysius mentioned in acts?

[Anonymous No.18969819]

>>18969760
This, academics have been corrupting Christianity since they invented racism (a Jewish trick to divide the church)

[Anonymous No.18969827]

>>18969819
Same with anything promoting class struggle. They never change

[Anonymous No.18969843]

>>18969819
>>18969827
Jesus warned us that Jews are the sons of Satan. And Satan is the father of lies. It is what it is. Europeans had been vaxxed against Jewish subversion, whereas America was virgin soil ripe for subversion. They got into media and finance, then politics. Then América became the leading world power: The rest is history.

[Anonymous No.18969850]

>swoon theory
>stolen body theory
>body substitution theory
Massive copes, all of them

[Anonymous No.18969865]

>>18969843
Yes. General reminder to tell Zionist-brainwashed Christians to read the parable of the vineyard, the parable of the wedding banquet and the section about the centurion in Matthew 8.

[Anonymous No.18969885]

>>18969768
>Unitarians be like: I wish I was a Jewish atheist

[Anonymous No.18969888]

>>18969760
This. If anyone compared my own letters written today to those which I wrote during the 1990s, and even more so those relatively few of the 1980s and 1970s, they would certainly conclude them to be by the hand of several.

I pray God's mercy for Bart Ehrman, as I also need aplenty. Lord have mercy unto us all, fallen under the incredible powers and weight of sin.

[Anonymous No.18969917]

>>18969885
What a travesty

[Anonymous No.18969930]

>>18969888
Senile fuck.

[Anonymous No.18969934]

>>18969930

[Anonymous No.18969938]

>>18969843
>>18969827
>>18969819
>>18969865
This.

[Anonymous No.18969944]

>>18969938

[Anonymous No.18969951]

>>18969938
>>18969944
So were the disciples of Jesus basically the last Jews that weren’t completely irredeemable or what?

[Anonymous No.18969955]

>>18969944
Many, I know, respect the Jews and think that their present way of life is a venerable one. This is why I hasten to uproot and tear out this deadly opinion. I said that the synagogue is no better than a theater and I bring forward a prophet as my witness. Surely the Jews are not more deserving of belief than their prophets. "You had a harlot's brow; you became shameless before all". Where a harlot has set herself up, that place is a brothel. But the synagogue is not only a brothel and a theater; it also is a den of robbers and a lodging for wild beasts. Jeremiah said: "Your house has become for me the den of a hyena". He does not simply say "of wild beast", but "of a filthy wild beast", and again: "I have abandoned my house, I have cast off my inheritance". But when God forsakes a people, what hope of salvation is left? When God forsakes a place, that place becomes the dwelling of demons.

2 But at any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who say so? The Son of God say so. For he said: "If you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father". Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God?

3 If, then, the Jews fail to know the Father, if they crucified the Son, if they thrust off the help of the Spirit, who should not make bold to declare plainly that the synagogue is a dwelling of demons? God is not worshipped there. Heaven forbid! From now on it remains a place of idolatry. But still some people pay it honor as a holy place.

4 Let me tell you this, not from guesswork but from my own experience. Three days ago-believe me, I am not lying-I saw a free woman of good bearing, modest, and a believer. A brutal, unfeeling man, reputed to be a Christian (for I would not call a person who would dare to do such a thing a sincere Christian) was forcing her to enter the shrine of the Hebrews and to swear there an oath about some matters under dispute with him. She came up to me and asked for help; she begged me to prevent this lawless violence-for it was forbidden to her, who had shared in the divine mysteries, to enter that place. I was fired with indignation, I became angry, I rose up, I refused to let her be dragged into that transgression, I snatched her from the hands of her abductor. I asked him if were a Christian, and he said he was. Then I set upon him vigorously, charging him with lack of feeling and the worst stupidity; I told him he was no better off than a mule if he, who professed to worship Christ, would drag someone off to the dens of the Jews who had crucified him. I talked to him a long time, drawing my lesson from the Holy Gospels; I told him first that it was altogether forbidden to swear and that it was wrong to impose the necessity of swearing on anyone. I then told him that he most not subject a baptize believer to this necessity. In fact, he must not force even an unbaptized person to swear an oath.

[Anonymous No.18969960]

>>18969955

5 After I talked with him at great length and had driven the folly of his error from his soul, I asked him why he rejected the Church and dragged the woman to the place where the Hebrews assembled. He answered that many people had told him that oaths sworn there were more to be feared. His words made me groan, then I grew angry, and finally I began to smile. When I saw the devil's wickedness, I groaned because he had the power to seduce men; I grew angry when I considered how careless were those who were deceived; when I saw the extent and depth of the folly of those who were deceived, I smiled.

6 I told you this story because you are savage and ruthless in your attitude toward those who do such things and undergo these experiences. If you see one of your brothers falling into such transgressions, you consider that it is someone else's misfortune, not your own; you think you have defended yourselves against your accusers when you say: "What concern of mine is it? What do I have in common with that man"? When you say that, your words manifest the utmost hatred for mankind and a cruelty which benefits the devil. What are you saying? You are a man and share the same nature. Why speak of a common nature when you have but a single head, Christ? Do you dare to say you have nothing in common with your own members? In what sense do you admit that Christ is the head of the Church? For certainly it is the function of the head to join all the limbs together, to order them carefully to each other, and to bind them into one nature. But if you have nothing in common with your members, then you have nothing in common with your brother, nor do you have Christ as your head.

7 The Jews frighten you as if you were little children, and you do not see it. Many wicked slaves show frightening and ridiculous masks to youngsters-the masks are not frightening by their nature, but they seem so to the children's simple minds-and in this way they stir up many a laugh. This is the way the Jews frighten the simpler-minded Christians with the bugbears and hobgoblins of their shrines. Yet how could their ridiculous and disgraceful synagogues frighten you? Are they not the shrines of men who have been rejected, dishonored, and condemned?

[Anonymous No.18969979]

>>18969951
Yes, and all of the Jews that will eventually get baptized. The rest rejected their inheritance.

[Anonymous No.18969989]

>>18969888
>I pray God's mercy for Bart Ehrman, as I also need aplenty. Lord have mercy unto us all, fallen under the incredible powers and weight of sin.
Amen.

[Anonymous No.18970058]

>>18969930
Pic related just happened to be the banner on this very page, this very moment, for me. However, you and your kind do not "tick me off" as I simply feel too much pity for the lot. I very clearly recall what it was like to have overconfidence in my self which rested on the sandy foundation of inexperience. I truly pray God's mercy for you in all that lies ahead. Also, He backed me with trips and (You) with digits of no meaning nor worth. Seek ye to be among the signal, son, and not that of the noise within the ratio.

[Anonymous No.18970071]

>>18968682
>Jesus never said He was God!

[Anonymous No.18970088]

>>18968682
>In the Ecclesiastical Hierarchy Dionysius twice seems to allude to the recitation of the Creed in the course of the liturgy (EH 3.2 and 3.III.7). It is often asserted that Peter the Fuller first mandated the inclusion of the Nicene Creed in the liturgy in 476, thus providing an earliest date for the composition of the Corpus. However, Bernard Capelle argues that it is far more likely that Timothy, patriarch of Constantinople, was responsible for this liturgical innovation, around 515 — thus suggesting a later date for the Corpus
Since you'd just say that Proclus plagiarized Dionysius 400 years after his death, and not Dionysius Pseudo-Areopagite quoting Proclus faithfully in the V century or later.

[Anonymous No.18970109]

>>18970071
*cue Muslims quoting out of context*

[Anonymous No.18970138]

>>18969819
>>18969827
>>18969843
>There would be no conflict in the world excepting the effect of (corrupting influence)
You all want to talk about a blue pill

[Anonymous No.18970171]

>>18970138
>strawmanning
You are thinking like a modernist. Even if there were no such thing as Jews anymore, man would still be fallen. There are many problems in the world, Jews are one.

[Anonymous No.18970193]

>>18970171
I'm not even talking about Jews. Anyone attempting to use spirituality as a shield to deny the natural state of all things as conflict, flux, and revolution is spiritually dead. No essentialist will ever find Christ.

[Anonymous No.18970215]

>>18970193
No one denies that there is conflict or flux in this world, I’m not even sure what your point is

[Anonymous No.18970222]

>>18970193
>conflict, flux, and revolution
>natural state of all things

[Anonymous No.18970239]

The amount of schizo in this thread is off the charts.

Christians need to get a grip.

[Anonymous No.18970281]

>>18970215
>>18970222
Hash it out it this guy then

[Anonymous No.18970325]

>>18970239
vade retro satanas!

[Anonymous No.18970503]

>>18970088
>seems
>It is often asserted
>jesuit (((Bernard Capelle)))
>far more likely
>suggesting
lol

>implying "creed" is identical in meaning to "Nicene Creed"
The good old heretic trick of confusing words and making them have only a single meaning when it serves their purposes.

>Protopresbyter John writes: "The reason for doubt was obvious anachronisms, especially in the book" On the Church Hierarchy ", which describes liturgical customs characteristic only of the 5th-6th centuries, such as the rite of tonsure into monasticism and the reading of the Symbol of Faith at the liturgy" (p. . 72-73).
>Meyendorff doubts that any of the "creeds" were used in the ancient Church at the liturgy. As for this, the first of the known "creeds" belongs to the apostolic times, and was an integral part of baptism. In the first centuries, the rule about the prohibition of the presence of heretics during the performance of the sacraments, first of all, the Symbol of Faith, was fulfilled with particular rigor, therefore its reading was quite natural during divine services - it served as a door to the sanctuary of the temple.
- Archimandrite Raphael (Karelin)

[Anonymous No.18970525]

This entire thread is bait; don't take it.

[Anonymous No.18970628]

>>18970525

Why yes, I do believe in a single-predestinarian absoluta damnata dual-covenant soteriology, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.18970649]

>>18969850
>swoon theory
the fuck is this

[Anonymous No.18970818]

>>18969760
Sometimes it feels on purpose.
Some anon on /his/ linked me a Wikipedia article about how John was according to some scholar depicted as a woman in the dark ages to sympathize with women and what not.... There was literally no proof presented or any documents that shows clearly the intention behind the drawings or if he was drawn as a woman or just drawn younger. Nothing was there support him but that would still be used as a legitimate scholar discovery.

[Anonymous No.18970847]

>>18969960

Whew, that's brutal. And he isn't wrong.

[Anonymous No.18970887]

>>18970818
Go to "depictions in art" for anyone interested.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Apostle
I think a couple of artists just got a little crazy while on nofap tb.h

[Anonymous No.18971248]

How to advance on the spiritual path?
I can fast and hold to a prayer rule somewhat, what is the next step?

[Anonymous No.18971265]

>>18971248
Talk to a priest

[Anonymous No.18971280]

>>18971265
about what specifically? I'm still too shy to talk to a priest about general questions if I don't have something specific.

[Anonymous No.18971508]

>>18970818
>>18970887
john was drawn as a femboy twink because that's how he's described in the bible. If you can extrapolate esoteric wisdom from that, it is good. But even if you can't, the surface synoptic gospels obviously portray John as a gentle, sensitive boy.

[Anonymous No.18971551]

>>18971280
Why don’t you ask him exactly what you asked us? Have you received baptism already? Express a desire to do so if not

[Anonymous No.18971569]

>>18971508
being gentle and sensitive is a far cry from being a distorted gnostic transsexual.

[Anonymous No.18971992]

>>18970525
Why though

[Anonymous No.18972031]

>>18971992
It's propaganda and predictably full of begging the question

[Anonymous No.18972072]

>>18970818
>>18970887
>if he was drawn as a woman
Anon there's art of John with tits. I mean come the fuck on, have you heard of "Pope Joan"? The whole Muscular Christianity thing is a Modernist heresy, you don't seriously think Christianity went 1,650 years without anyone coming up with ways to put girls into it? Where do you think 90% of Medieval Mysticism came from?

[Anonymous No.18972079]

>>18972072
Hey retard did you skip over the gospels or something?

[Anonymous No.18972081]

>>18970649
Swoon theory is the theory that Jesus only pretended to be dead basically or passed out “swooned.” And then he was later revived to consciousness.

[Anonymous No.18972134]

>>18972081
I plan on doing the same thing if the state ever decides on giving me a lethal injection. They can't imprison someone they think they've killed

[N E M O . !!GgBWHLRiayD No.18972320]

>>18968682
Opining is not equivalent to critiquing; critique requires a noble sense of mind in order to discern, and to converbalize, something; without virtuous experience one lacks the sensible prerequisite for intelligent & comprehensive reasoning, and degenerates into opinionated convolution.

[Anonymous No.18972529]

>>18969760
>‘writing styles’
Now this is the most bullshit thing that textual critics and scholars pull. I would ask anybody in this thread to look at two of their undergrad essays from different classes but the same semester. I look at two of mine, written weeks apart but for different professors (hence audience), and they have entirely different styles and methods. This is so obvious, yet these idiot scholars come up with entire methodologies based on such a fallacious and baseless principle.

[Anonymous No.18972536]

>>18972529
Have you even delved into this fallacious and baseless principle, or are you just critiquing your broad idea of it?

[Anonymous No.18973704]

>>18972536
I used my brain to realize that it's immediately obviously wrong. No need for "delving."

[Anonymous No.18974082]

>>18973704
Based

[Anonymous No.18974458]

>>18968682
>Post more cringe and blue-pilled views on Christianity.

It's just bread and wine!

[Anonymous No.18974614]

>>18970071
This one always gets me
I got another one
>It's a non-believer preaches about the "historical" Jesus and while he does not believe in Him he starts to argue in favor of following His teachings in a secular way, episode.

[Anonymous No.18976101]

bump

[Anonymous No.18976820]

>>18969789
Even it it wasn’t. The guy’s name is Dionysius, he is from Athens, and that make him the Aeropagite. I refuse to believe that Athens only ever had a single Dionysius.

[Anonymous No.18977339]

>Proclus plagiarized the writings of Dionysius

[Anonymous No.18977565]

>>18973704
Shorthand for laziness and intellectual dishonesty, but what would you expect from a bot?

[Anonymous No.18978358]

>>18972529
This