Tolkien and diversity

[Anonymous No.18956585]

Some of the informative talks the Tolkien society has held:

>Gondor in Transition: A Brief Introduction to Transgender Realities in The Lord of the Rings
>The Problematic Perimeters of Elrond Half-elven and Ronald English-Catholic
>Pardoning Saruman?: The Queer in Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings
>Destabilizing Cishetero Amatonormativity in the Works of Tolkien

Finally the queer community are getting the representation in Tolkien's work they desperately needs.

[Anonymous No.18956595]

This is your fault for liking popular things

[Anonymous No.18956611]

JRR must be laughing in heaven at such absurd futilities which to us seem as foul affronts.

[Anonymous No.18956626]

>>18956585
Fuck off, /pol/chud. Tolkien liked Jews and he BTFO'd a stupid Nazi who sent him a letter one day.

[Anonymous No.18956631]

>>18956626

[Anonymous No.18956639]

Note how few views the actual videos got.

[Anonymous No.18956642]

>>18956585
The man was a hardcore catholic traditionalist. He would probably an hero if he lived to see today's society or your post

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18956654]

>/lit/ - Seminars

>>18956611
Heaven allows one to observe earthly hells?

[Anonymous No.18956678]

>>18956639
What might we conclude from this?

[Anonymous No.18956686]

>>18956678
Tolkien fans are reactionaries who hate queer ppl

[Anonymous No.18956695]

>>18956626
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.18956766]

>>18956686
tolkien fans are a mix of reactionaries/fascists, basedboy consumer types and crazy cat lady leftists

[Anonymous No.18956780]

>>18956626
Shut up, creature

[Anonymous No.18956797]

>>18956766
Tolkien fans are a bunch of gen x normies

[Anonymous No.18956802]

>>18956797
the original tolkien fans were literally the hippies

[Anonymous No.18956813]

>>18956639
>>18956678
>>18956686
>>18956766
>lmao stop overreacting, these people are in a minority, it's not like they'll indoctrinate your children or lobby for hate speech laws or something

What did we learn from the past 20 years?

[Anonymous No.18956835]

>>18956585
>not a single leftist has made the materialist interpretation of queers
It's environmental toxins ruining endocrine systems. That's it. No more words needed. No need for 100 million man hours of effete academics discussing the finer points of gender socialization.
It's atrazine and microplastics.

[Anonymous No.18956837]

>>18956813
>What did we learn from the past 20 years?
https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

[Anonymous No.18956846]

>>18956695
>>18956780
Touch grass

[Anonymous No.18956856]

>>18956835
Material explanations have a way of cutting through the nonsense sometimes. Take all this talk of soldiers being emotionally traumatized, when really PTSD is probably just brain damage from explosions:

>In early 2012, a neuropathologist named Daniel Perl was examining a slide of human brain tissue when he saw something odd and unfamiliar in the wormlike squiggles and folds. It looked like brown dust; a distinctive pattern of tiny scars. Perl was intrigued. At 69, he had examined 20,000 brains over a four-decade career, focusing mostly on Alzheimer’s and other degenerative disorders. He had peered through his microscope at countless malformed proteins and twisted axons. He knew as much about the biology of brain disease as just about anyone on earth. But he had never seen anything like this.

>The brain under Perl’s microscope belonged to an American soldier who had been five feet away when a suicide bomber detonated his belt of explosives in 2009. The soldier survived the blast, thanks to his body armor, but died two years later of an apparent drug overdose after suffering symptoms that have become the hallmark of the recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan: memory loss, cognitive problems, inability to sleep and profound, often suicidal depression. Nearly 350,000 service members have been given a diagnosis of traumatic brain injury over the past 15 years, many of them from blast exposure. The real number is likely to be much higher, because so many who have enlisted are too proud to report a wound that remains invisible.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210108121614/https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/magazine/what-if-ptsd-is-more-physical-than-psychological.html

[Anonymous No.18956866]

>>18956626

/Pol/fags don’t seem to understand Sarcasm.

[Anonymous No.18956923]

>>18956846
Really? Chud? Touch grass? Why do you just parrot the same shitty quips every time?

[Anonymous No.18957115]

>>18956846
Tongue anus

[Anonymous No.18957120]

>>18956923
If it doesn't affect you, then why does calling out retarded /pol/chuds always get (You)s?

[Anonymous No.18957152]

What was their actual argument though? How in the world do you interpret this garbage from a tradcath's writings?

[Anonymous No.18957177]

>>18957120
When did he say it doesn't get him?
He called you out for posting mundane trash, using pathetically inoffensive slurs and figures of speech.

Your entire retort is projection.

[Anonymous No.18957180]

>>18957177
That's my first post ITT

[Anonymous No.18957201]

>>18957120
>>18956686
>>18956626
Thou shalt ne'er a true maiden be. Thou hast neither womb nor ovary. Thou art a catamite, twist'd by foul perversion of chirurgeon's art to crude fleer'ry of Divine perfection.
All validation as thou receivest like unto Janus' own be, and tepid to boot. 'Pon thy hind, good folk fleer.
Thy good father and kind mother art in troth disgust'd and in shame of thee.
Thy friends doth make sport of thine hideous countenance 'twixt themselves.
By thee art all of Adam's sons utterly repuls'd. Our Lord didst fortuitously permit all menfolk to divine thy fraud with wondrous accuracy.
If by trickery, thou didst 'pon occasion "pass", all gentle folk verily wouldst 'pon closer examination revile thee. By the Lord's arrangement, thy very bones betray thee.
And if 'pon chance thou pliest with drink an unfortunate companion unto thy fetid bed, 'twould soonest fly as drink in the aromas from thine diseas'd, fest'ring wound, the which thou cherish in mockery of Eve's daughters.
Tis certaine that never shalt the devil's spawn pass from thine false womb, thus fruitless art thy efforts to ensnare gentlefolk.
Joy shall likewise escape thee.
'Pon waking, thou paint upon thy face a Deceiver's frippery, but inside thine heart, parlous despair circles like Leviathan, eft t' crush thee 'neath th'unbearable weight.
In the end 'twill be too much to bear - thou shalt find thyself procuring firm rope, mocking the hangman's noble art, and plunging into the bitter abyss of the Divill's embrace, to spend thy days better cavorting with thine masters.
Thine father or mother shall occasion upon thine empty shell and weep, caught 'twixt heartbreak and relief that the shame thou broughtest them hast, anon, abated.
Thine headstone shall reflect thine Christian name, and hist'ry shall record thee a man.
As worms and creatures of the earth feast on thine unholy corpse, thine bones shalt betray thee again - unmistak'bly like unto Adam's.
'Tis thy fate, self-appointed. Ne'er shall thee revoke it.

[Anonymous No.18957216]

>>18956626
because that was an actual Nazi not someone who disliked rabid transvestite sodomites and hysterical fourth wave feminists

[Anonymous No.18957221]

>>18956678
That none of this shit is organic but it's still being forced into media somehow

[Anonymous No.18957225]

Name literally one thing wrong with diversity

[Anonymous No.18957270]

>>18957225
Diversity destroys culture.
My kin are threatened.

[Anonymous No.18957271]

>>18957225
Diversity is good. What passes for diversity is something else.

[Anonymous No.18957279]

>>18957120
Because its funny

[Anonymous No.18957292]

>>18957225
Most diverse things are ugly

[Anonymous No.18957293]

>>18957270
>Diversity destroys culture.
>My kin are threatened.

[Anonymous No.18957314]

>>18956654
>Heaven allows one to observe earthly hells
Wow, the proses, butters, they flow!

[Anonymous No.18957371]

>>18957270
And culture changing over time is bad how?

[Anonymous No.18957385]

>>18957371
He said destroyed not changed. Think about it like this, when a troon has his penis cut up and destroyed and shaped into a vagina, it doesn’t change into a vagina, it instead is a poor butchers imitation of the grace of nature and God.

[Anonymous No.18957389]

>>18957225
I don't have anything against diversity in theory, I respect people as individuals and believe ideally mankind needs to set aside differences and live in harmony, but in reality there are clearly flaws, people are simply tribal and often don't mix well. Just look at all the tribal behavior in this thread. Also this forcing of "diversity" into all aspects of culture is toxic and setting us backwards in terms of genuine positive relations among different people.

[Anonymous No.18957399]

If I were a janitor I would permaban every single tranny ITT
if that didn't mean having to deal with raids and spam I'd make a textboard
it's getting fucking insufferable to deal with retarded spammers, false flaggers and sockpuppets

[Anonymous No.18957401]

>>18957385
Cultures do change over time and that change includes the changing of people. Large scale migrations are nothing new in the history of humanity but /pol/tards don't know anything about history outside of WW2. Maybe try putting forth an actual argument instead of a nonsensical metaphor about your obsession with tranny dick.

[Anonymous No.18957455]

>>18957180
???

[Anonymous No.18957493]

>>18957401
There is a diference between A changing to B and A changing to Hell

[Anonymous No.18957499]

>>18957225
It doesn't exist. It's diversity at the level of which pieces of flair do you want to put on your uniform, or which ethnic food restaurant do you want to patronise this weekend. It's only skin deep.
What underlies it is homogeneity. Atomized, deracinated liberal subjectivity which approaches culture the way it approaches the chip aisle at the grocery store. Everything is about voluntary association and personal preference satisfaction at the most trivial level. You have this illusion of individual choice, personal expression, diversity, and inclusivity, but scratch it, and you'll see nothing but globohomo.

[Anonymous No.18957521]

>>18956654
>Heaven allows one to observe earthly hells?
That's a bit more sophisticated phrasing from you than usual, so kudos for that.
But I guess, that does sound like an interesting question. Wouldn't a complete state of bliss also require ignorance of further sin and darkness on earth that happens after you have passed away?

[Anonymous No.18957522]

>>18957401
>Cultures do change over time
Bit by bit, while keeping essential form and practices in tact.
>that change includes the changing of people
That's not "change" that's ethnicide.
Persians didn't change, they got pushed out and replaced.
Native Americans didn't change, they got pushed out and replaced.
The original Chinese didn't change, they got pushed out and replaced.

Fuck off with your word games, the "change" you describe includes war, mass death, absolute deterioration of the former populace and the very end of their existence as such.

>Large scale migrations are nothing new
And?
Neither is rape, warfare, disease or whatever else.
Your pathetically attempt to rationalise something that's objectively a detriment to the people experiencing it while claiming some high moral ground.

Somebody wants my soil?
They'll hace to kill me first.

[Anonymous No.18957551]

>>18957225
The side which gets "diversified" ceases to exist.
The people who "diversify" gain a new homeland while keeping their own.

There is no such thing as diversity.
It's capitalism fueled migration.

Going from a happy homogenous community to watching your own children advocate for their replacement is not worth having niggers as neighbours.

You and your pets will hang.

[Anonymous No.18957567]

>>18957120

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[Anonymous No.18957609]

>>18957522
>Somebody wants my soil?
>They'll hace to kill me first.
>>18957551
>You and your pets will hang.

[Anonymous No.18957639]

>>18957499
>Everything is about voluntary association and personal preference satisfaction
As it should be

[Anonymous No.18957675]

>>18956654
Earth is not hell. Hell is worse than this

[Anonymous No.18957678]

>>18957609
Did you know that the Mexican constitution forbids for Mexicans to become a minority in their own homeland?

Imagine if you will, a group of people, so dumb and naive, they'd shill for Mexicans to come into their country while also lobbying to become a minority in their own.

Can you imagine anyone that cucked?

[Anonymous No.18957690]

>>18957678
>Did you know that the Mexican constitution forbids for Mexicans to become a minority in their own homeland?
>Imagine if you will, a group of people, so dumb and naive, they'd shill for Mexicans to come into their country while also lobbying to become a minority in their own.
>Can you imagine anyone that cucked?

[Anonymous No.18957704]

>>18957371
all cultures converging to American pop degeneracy sure is

[Anonymous No.18957724]

>>18956923
The chud thing struck me as random. At first I thought it relates to some silly random legend because there used to be I think Estonian tribe called chuds, but no, apparently it's a shitty movie from mid 2000's. Some retarded person on a discord server looked at 4chan calling them cucks and basedboys and whatever and they went like: look, we have to fire back with a meme on our own. Memes are referential I've heard, so let's reference this random movie I watched yesterday and that will show em. Cargo cult mentality applied to memes.

>>18956585
That's the only thing philologists can do these days, write pointless papers about how they see fag or tranny themes in a random work. It was always a faculty to put a bored, autistic aristocrat in, now it became 2nd rate career and that's the result of it.

[Anonymous No.18957746]

>>18957704
how so?

[Anonymous No.18957769]

>>18957704
If it is 'degeneracy', why is it winning?

[Anonymous No.18957790]

>>18957769
Why do diseases win? Why do forest fires win?

[Anonymous No.18957799]

Societies are driven towards new interpretive readings--you'll gradually see queer representation dwindle as disability studies comes to take the lead, and you can quote me on that--and the point isn't that Tolkien intended for these things to happen but that one *can* read it in such way.

Point being though--what the fuck do you want the Tolkien society to talk about, because I guarantee you they already did so in the 80s.

[Anonymous No.18957822]

>>18957690
Sorry to break it to you buddy, but youre a useful idiot, a doormat for capitalists and other races.

Assuming you are white, you're actively going against your own ethnic interest while furthering the ethnic and financial interests of others.
You're supporting a one sided war - against yourself.
The people who come to your country will never do this to their own. Not in respect to their homelands or even the ethnic enclaves they'll form in your country. Labels such as "diversity" and "racial equality" and "gay rights" are either completely nonexistent or only marginally present where they come from.
No amount of le pol face posting will ever change the fact that you're a treacherous abomination, so gullible and naive it's practically a form of retardation.
All the groups you shill for hate you.
Visit any larger social media outlet and you'll see them say so without a single fear of repercussion.
Meanwhile any form of retaliation from a white person is seen as sacrilege and will be policed by other white people.
Your own media outlets slander you worldwide, creating a false picture of race relations in your country.
A Japanese person, living in a literal ethnostate (98.5 percent ethnically Japanese with most immigrants being Asian) will think of you and your country as "racist" because that's what his media outlets, merely repeating western liberal propaganda, will tell him.
Meanwhile he will refuse to even acknowledge a Korean person as Japanese, and be insulted by the idea of Japan becoming more "multicultural".

But hey... At least yiu have those memes of yours.

[Anonymous No.18957853]

>>18957822
>Sorry to break it to you buddy, but youre a useful idiot, a doormat for capitalists and other races.
>Assuming you are white, you're actively going against your own ethnic interest while furthering the ethnic and financial interests of others.
>You're supporting a one sided war - against yourself.
>The people who come to your country will never do this to their own. Not in respect to their homelands or even the ethnic enclaves they'll form in your country. Labels such as "diversity" and "racial equality" and "gay rights" are either completely nonexistent or only marginally present where they come from.
>No amount of le pol face posting will ever change the fact that you're a treacherous abomination, so gullible and naive it's practically a form of retardation.
>All the groups you shill for hate you.
>Visit any larger social media outlet and you'll see them say so without a single fear of repercussion.
>Meanwhile any form of retaliation from a white person is seen as sacrilege and will be policed by other white people.
>Your own media outlets slander you worldwide, creating a false picture of race relations in your country.
>A Japanese person, living in a literal ethnostate (98.5 percent ethnically Japanese with most immigrants being Asian) will think of you and your country as "racist" because that's what his media outlets, merely repeating western liberal propaganda, will tell him.
>Meanwhile he will refuse to even acknowledge a Korean person as Japanese, and be insulted by the idea of Japan becoming more "multicultural".
>But hey... At least yiu have those memes of yours.

[Anonymous No.18957915]

>>18956585
All happen to be either self-loathing Whites or Jews. Fascinating.

I tire of these cretins. No wonder the Taliban has cheerleaders in the West. It's in dire need of their sort.

[Anonymous No.18957992]

>>18957746
>how so?
in Europe we are all American, but without everything that was or is cool about America (love of freedom, maximalism, guns, etc), as if you removed all that is between the East and West coast. Ofc this is true for the upper class and the upper middle class who speak English and consoom media in that language, particularly since cultural capital is literally worthless in most places now and the best path to joining the ruling class is becoming a STEMlord.
If you ever move to a European country it's salient. Most politics are translated, most tv is translated, most books are translated. You can even hear, if you pay attention, how the country's language is wrapped to fit globish grammar. Amusingly whatever remains of local culture is confined to the lower classes who are too poor and uneducated to be part of this new world in the making.

[Anonymous No.18958102]

>>18956585
>entire audience is white
How do these retards not implode from being the living refutation of their own bullshit?

[Anonymous No.18958662]

>>18957915
when did that vid happen? are the subs real?

[Anonymous No.18960027]

>>18957769
Because it's easier.

[Anonymous No.18960084]

>>18956585
>this is what infps look like
I pity you.

[Anonymous No.18960110]

>>18958662
A few months back, and yes. It even spawned a little QUI (WHO)!? Movement in France. The one getting interviewed is one of the French generals that wrote an open letter, telling the French government has to start enforcing the laws (aka actually punish criminal immigrants).

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>>18957675
And yet Hell is just earth without end. And warmer. Which it is getting.
But the idea is still there. Why are the voyeurs in the clouds allowed to observe earth, purgatory and hell form their seats? This is a perk? Like riding in first class?

Was always a crazy stupid idea

[Anonymous No.18960132]

>>18960110
Based. I really hope there's a military coup in France, hopefully it sets off a cascade of the overthrow of democratic governments in the West. Mass democracy is what got us into this bullshit in the first place and it's time to get rid of it. From the right, of course. Not from the left, we've already seen what happens when the left gets rid of democracy, now it's the right's turn.

[Anonymous No.18960156]

>>18960132
Kys, retard nigger

[Anonymous No.18960160]

>>18960132
how can that happen when the youth is 90% shitlib pilled? at least in America, only boomers are right wing now

[Anonymous No.18960237]

>>18960160
All it takes is a dedicated minority to get shit done. That's all it's ever taken. All you need is a dedicated minority of people who keep pushing and never give up. Eventually they get their way and rule, and the vast majority simply falls in line.

[Anonymous No.18960255]

>>18960132
Cool down with the infantile power fantasies, /pol/chud.

[Anonymous No.18960274]

>>18957853
>he quoted, literally posting Physiognomy
whew lads, even leftoids have to be rightist in an attempt to "meme". I have never failed to not imagine a chudjack poster not looking like that.

[Anonymous No.18960315]

>>18960160
Just like every other shift in national politics in any country throughout world history. It took all of five minutes to shitlib pill them in the first place it will take all of five minutes to convince them to hate something else.
The youth of the united states have all been liberal since the 1960’s (and probably before) and every single member of that class were foaming at the mouth to tear shit up in the middle east in 2002.

[Anonymous No.18960333]

>>18956585
This happened ages ago and nothing came of it. Just a group of normies holding a public forum rather than commenting on a blogpost.

[Anonymous No.18960344]

>>18960160
maybe if you live in LA anon. Most people just dont really engage in it. Or are tacitly ambivalent to slightly negative/positive.

[Anonymous No.18960349]

>>18960333
>ages ago
It was in July
They also aren’t done yet

[Anonymous No.18960353]

>>18960344
>Yes, just ignore everything happening around you. This is the path to full subver- i mean civic duty

[Anonymous No.18960365]

>>18960123
It's not heaven if you're enough of an egoist to judge others.

[Anonymous No.18960378]

>>18960349
>highly conservative Catholic reactionary was "woke"

[Anonymous No.18960400]

>>18960353
Your ignoring or engaging with this filth won't change it. Liberals are long past any kind of discourse. Right now, to them, you're an equivalent of a soviet farmer in 1941 imploring a nazi officer to debate their differences. They don't want your opinion, they want you dead, destroyed, or at least utterly subjugated and humiliated. They don't see you as a fellow human. Nobody is "subverting" America, it's been successfully subverted long time ago, rendering you a persona non grata.

[Anonymous No.18960401]

>>18960353
I was not saying it was the right path retard, just that I believe your analysis on the nature of the youth was wrong. There is a large difference between "being" and "not engagement".

[Anonymous No.18960477]

>>18956846
Suck ass.

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>>18960365
So in the afterlife one achieves ego-death for yhwh.

How hellish

[Anonymous No.18961008]

>>18957522
>Persians didn't change, they got pushed out and replaced.
Not a f*ersian myself but why can't /pol/ crowd actually nit be sheeps and obsessed with race? Millions of f*ersians replaced by few hundred thousand bedouins, nice laugh. Genetic continuity is there too but /pol/ can't into nuances .