Good gothic literature

[Anonymous No.18953497]

Is there even such a thing as good gothic lit? I feel like i've read almost everything, and I still havent found anything I like, which seems improbable.

Or is all gothic literature just shitty? Am I missing out on some good obscure stuff?

[Anonymous No.18953568]

This one was very good.

[Anonymous No.18953601]

>>18953497
Poe. Not sure who else.

[Anonymous No.18953623]

>>18953568
Haven't heard of it. Thank you.

>>18953601
Poe was okay I guess.

[Anonymous No.18953668]

>>18953497
This Swedish novel is good, I read the english translation and its good

[Anonymous No.18953681]

>>18953623
What did you read by him?
He's kinda cheesy, but that's the fun of gothic fiction.
The Black Cat and The Fall of the House of Usher are two of my favourites.

[Anonymous No.18953690]

>>18953497
Have you read Brontë, Radcliffe, Shelley, Beckford, and Sade yet?

[Anonymous No.18953712]

>>18953690
Yes, and don't get me wrong they were enjoyable. I just think The Monk was my favourite/the peak and was hoping you guys would disagree and rec me something even better.

[Anonymous No.18953722]

>>18953681
Black Cat and The Cask of Amontillado. Hes good. I will read more. I guess i'm just hoping there were some hidden gems you would know about.

[Anonymous No.18953740]

>>18953568
Why does the title not fit the cover? What were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.18953997]

>>18953740
They were thinking the dumbasses on /lit/ were still going to buy it so they saved money on a halfassed cover. This is the only place I ever see Gaddis discussed. Try bringing up that book on r/books and watch 500 posts of how pretentious you are for trying to talk about something more difficult than young adult drivel

[Anonymous No.18954595]

William Harrison Ainsworth, I got into him after reading one of his poems (The Mandrake) in a collection of Manchester Poetry

[Anonymous No.18954626]

>>18954595
Thanks anon, I'll look into them.

[Anonymous No.18954724]

>>18953497
French decadent lit is Gothic but advanced a hundred years and actually good.

[Anonymous No.18954804]

>>18953690
How is Sade gothic?

[Anonymous No.18954862]

>>18954724
Got any recs?

[Anonymous No.18954915]

>>18954862
La Bas by Huysmans
Les Diaboliques by Barbey d'Aurevilly

There's also Disagreeable Tales by Leon Bloy but I haven't read it yet. I didn't enjoy Mirbeau's Torture Garden but you might.

[Anonymous No.18954924]

I like a lot of the stuff in Matthew Lewis's Tales of Wonder anthology, if you're into narrative poetry it's worth a look

https://archive.org/details/talesofwonder02lewi/
https://archive.org/details/talesofwonder01lewi/

[Anonymous No.18954929]

>>18954915
I love La Bas! I also enjoyed the torture garden. Ive added the rest to my next purchases list. Do you have any more recs? All g if not.

[Anonymous No.18954956]

>>18954929
There is a giant reader of French Decadant lit that was put out by Zone Books/Princeton University Press, from memory it included d'Aurevilly Les Diaboliques.
https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9781890951078/the-decadent-reader

Oxford, and I think Penguin too, have also published compliations of different short stories in Decadent readers.

[Anonymous No.18954963]

>>18954929
>>18954956
This one
>French Decadent Tales

[Anonymous No.18954973]

>>18954963
And Dedalus have a whole published range of decadent lit they specialise in, not only translations from French but republishing less well known English works from the movement
http://www.dedalusbooks.com/our-books/index.php?cat=12&pg=1

[Anonymous No.18955361]

>>18954924
This looks amazing thank you

[Anonymous No.18955366]

>>18954973
>>18954963
>>18954956
Holy shit thank you so much. You and the other anons itt have made my day

[Anonymous No.18955589]

>>18954915
>>18954924
>>18954956
>>18954963
>>18954973
Great recs indeed.

[Anonymous No.18955591]

>>18954804
Sade was influenced by the gothic novel (or roman noir) such as Radcliffe. The main difference is a lack of supernatural elements, focusing on the horrors of Nature instead.

[Anonymous No.18955634]

>>18953497
Then you don't like gothic, if you think that The Monk, Frankenstein, The Phantom of the Opera, The Witch of Ravensworth, Dracula, etc, are bad books I can only tell you to stop because you obviously don't like gothic.

[Anonymous No.18955829]

>>18953497
Faulkner lol

[Anonymous No.18956045]

>>18955634
It was reverse psychology.

[Anonymous No.18956223]

>>18953497

[Anonymous No.18956864]

>>18956223
Great post

[Anonymous No.18957059]

>>18953497
Poe and Shelley

[Anonymous No.18957069]

>>18953497
it was a good story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_(short_story)

[Anonymous No.18957103]

>>18953712
have you read Melmoth the Wanderer by Charles Maturin?

[Anonymous No.18957204]

>>18957103
Si, estas ma booka favorita
>t. Borbes
:DDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.18957269]

>>18953497
The Devil's Elixirs by Hoffmann. It's kind of a meta-retelling of The Monk. The book is being overtly referred to and is read by one of the characters.

[Anonymous No.18957628]

[Anonymous No.18957634]

>>18957204
?

[Anonymous No.18957654]

>>18953668
no

[Anonymous No.18957694]

Check this, one of the best spanish publishers: valdemar

Has a gothic line of publishing:
http://www.valdemar.com/default.php?cPath=4&osCsid=5a190c823c913b134eaf15e2042bf0f1

If you don't read spanish, at least you can check the main authors.

Learn spanish, just for reading this high quality books its worth it.

[Anonymous No.18957863]

>>18953568
How is this gothic lit? It's a dark comedy/ satire

[Anonymous No.18957876]

Mariana Enríquez' last novel

[Anonymous No.18957926]

Isnt there a chart?

[Anonymous No.18957935]

[Anonymous No.18958246]

>>18953497
Yes most of the well known gothic is boring, the best stuff is almost all unknown. Look into publishers like Wakefield Press and Snuggly Press along with the Dedalus Decadent collections.
The book Samalio Paradulus is a quite solid Belgian gothic novel that was completely unknown until it was translated into English for the first time by Wakefield Press a bit ago. Now its slightly known.

[Anonymous No.18958898]

>>18953497

Try 'Melmoth the Wanderer'

[Anonymous No.18959225]

I thought this one was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.18959329]

>>18957103
No, I haven't I'll check it out.

[Anonymous No.18959337]

Melmoth the Wanderer fucking sucks except for the section on the island.

[Anonymous No.18959341]

>>18959225
Can you expand? I’ve heard some good things about this book but it always remains buried in my TBR list

[Anonymous No.18959578]

>>18959337
Thats the whole book.

[Anonymous No.18959594]

>>18954915
>Read La Bas
>Comfy setting and strong, sentimental friendships
>Wish I could have lived in that time period
>Narrator finds his own time period decadent and shitty
>Realize I would be disappointed regardless whether I lived then or now

What's the best time period to have lived in, /lit/?
Also does decadent literature lament or revel in decadence?

[Anonymous No.18959730]

>>18959594
>What's the best time period to have lived in, /lit/?
None
>Also does decadent literature lament or revel in decadence?
I'd say both, but moreso the latter

[Anonymous No.18959791]

>>18959594
2150

[Anonymous No.18960309]

>>18959578
The section with Immalee on the island in the Indian Ocean ya goober. The rest of the book sucks, especially the Spaniard's tale.

[Anonymous No.18960542]

>>18959594
Hey at least you or friends don't have tuberculosis consuming you from the inside. Pinker is right in some ways, certain things are better now.

[Anonymous No.18960632]

>>18953497

[Anonymous No.18960769]

>>18960542
Very true. I think it's a grass is always greener mentality. Having read La Bas, Frankenstein, Dracula, I love how characters talk to and about each other with such warmth and grace. It's not a virtue but I do daydream sometimes of having such beautiful friendships.

[Anonymous No.18960786]

>>18959225
Should be talked about more often

[Anonymous No.18960862]

>>18953497
The Monk is amazing and such an evil book. I would kill for an Eggers film adaptation of the material.

Wuthering Heights
House of Seven Gables
A Mirror for Witches

Reading Manuscript found in Saragossa now..a bit of a slog at times but solid so far.

[Anonymous No.18961584]

Does the king in yellow count?

[Anonymous No.18962279]

>>18953497
the adventures of ferdinand count fathom. i haven't it read it, just heard about it today. it's about this dastardly man roaming in jolly old England killing people left and right. some critics called it a proto gothic novel. too me, it sounds like a funnier blood meridian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWTOS2HLP7w

[Anonymous No.18963329]

Arthur Machen ought to be mentioned. Specifically the White People. The Great God Pan is quite good too, but a little overhyped.

[Anonymous No.18963501]

Melmoth the Wanderer

[Anonymous No.18963519]

>>18957935
retarded

[Anonymous No.18963671]

>>18953497
Gilles de Rais' biography.

[Anonymous No.18963743]

>>18960769
>It's not a virtue but I do daydream sometimes of having such beautiful friendships.
I feel the same, anon. Why does it have to be so difficult? I realise that I too am to blame, but I must still ask the question.

[Anonymous No.18964734]

Artaud's rewrite of The Monk

[Anonymous No.18964998]

>>18964734
What the fuck are you talking about? Where do I get this?

[Anonymous No.18966334]

>>18953497
Castle of Otranto is total shit.

[Anonymous No.18966443]

>>18960309
I think that's the general consensus. The Spaniard's tale is a filter and Immalee's is the best one. It's not a bad book at all, I love it, but I don't have the willpower to go through the Spaniard's tale again, it was unnecessarily long.

[Anonymous No.18966449]

>>18953668
How does it compare to the movie

[Anonymous No.18966475]

>>18963329
I highly recommend this edition of Machen's work.

[Anonymous No.18967367]

Everything Brian Stableford translated for Snuggly Books.

Start with Jane de la Vauderes The Mysteries of Karma. One of the bets novels Iver ever read.

[Anonymous No.18967718]

>>18963743
I think part of it is a culture of letter writing. You legitimately share how you're doing and what you're feeling. Social development without electronic media and unnatural dopamine spikes.
On special occasions I have written heart-felt letters to friends, and while they've appreciated it, doing so in return seems as of it's foreign to them. Still, they are good friends in other ways.

[Anonymous No.18967874]

>>18964998
(published by Creation Books)

[Anonymous No.18968471]

>>18963501
what do people say to be disappointed after reading it?

[Anonymous No.18968556]

>>18968471
what? is english your second language?

[Anonymous No.18968811]

>>18966475
How's Varney the vampire?

[Anonymous No.18968954]

>>18968811
It's an awesome mess. I don't know if the plethora of locations and Varney's constant change of heart were written intentionally, but I liked the inconsistency. Reading hundreds of short stories about the same character in the same location would be boring.
Warning: those two books are glorified photocopies. Instead of rewriting the stories whoever edited these books literally photocopied the originals.

[Anonymous No.18968965]

>>18968471
Because it's disappointing. There is only one good section in the entire book and the Spaniards story is incredibly dull.

[Anonymous No.18969125]

I still don't know what "gothic" means.

[Anonymous No.18969461]

>>18967874
thanks, seems bretty cool

[Anonymous No.18970396]

>>18969125
It got its name when the first “gothic sotry was mad in a goth castle

[Anonymous No.18970635]

Bump

[Anonymous No.18970949]

>>18968954

Planning on a read this year since the plot reminds me a lot of Jojo Phantom Blood and I want to see the influences for Dracula. I've got the massive Wordsworth edition where it is 1000 pages or so

[Anonymous No.18971407]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the The Castle of Otranto by Walpole yet. It's one of the earliest examples of gothic. It's decent, but not as good as The Monk.

>>18957103
I've never heard of that book before but it sounds amazing. Personally, I generally enjoy a month or so of gothic/horror reading in and around October, so I'm trying to put together a list for this year.

>>18957103

[Anonymous No.18971766]

>>18953568
this is not remotely gothic, this is postmodern

[Anonymous No.18972110]

>>18953497
I don't see Hanns Heinz Ewers mentioned often in these threads so here you go.

[Anonymous No.18972507]

>>18971407
That’s been on my to read list when i first heard that has some prince being crushed by a giant helmet.

[Anonymous No.18972979]

>>18971766
Can't a postmodern novel be gothic?
>>18972110
I don't speak German.

[Anonymous No.18973561]

>>18953497
The Monk is pretty funny you have to admit. Have you tried this?

[Anonymous No.18974859]

boomp

[Anonymous No.18974933]

>>18967874
Fuck creation for being criminals, now all their books are way too hard to get a hold of. So much I want to read

[Anonymous No.18974969]

>>18960786
Isn't it one of the most well known works of the genre? It's often cited as one of the first english works to do the whole text-within-a-text thing

[Anonymous No.18975008]

>>18974969
>english

[Anonymous No.18975147]

>>18974969
It's in French and it was written by a Pole tho

[Anonymous No.18975540]

>>18953497
>>>
>Anonymous 09/02/21(Thu)17:14:21 No.18969125▶>>18970396

[Anonymous No.18975549]

>>18953497
often people get offerances from the waist.
>ib4shy

[Anonymous No.18976619]

>>18953497
bump

[Anonymous No.18976885]

>>18966449
The book was really good. Better than the movies. The pedo was actually terrifying in the book after he gets his face melted off with acid and the vampire parasite basically reanimates him.

[Anonymous No.18977623]

Any good emo /lit/?

[Anonymous No.18978275]

>>18977623
Person
by Sam Pink

[Anonymous No.18978932]

>>18978275
How is it?

[Anonymous No.18979489]

Bumping in interest. I want to see any more suggestions but these are very nice so far.

[Anonymous No.18979705]

>>18979489
If you are interested in obscure books:
https://www.valancourtbooks.com/gothic--romantic.html

[Anonymous No.18980254]

>>18979705
Shit that's actually really cool. I love this sort of stuff where they allow readers to rediscover authors like this. Thanks, I'll definitely have to check this stuff out.

[Anonymous No.18980289]

>>18953722
Poe actually wrote a lot of funny stuff too you should just read anything he wrote

[Anonymous No.18981697]

One last bump

[Anonymous No.18982640]

>>18980289
What are they?

[Anonymous No.18983952]

>>18953497
What is considered gothic anyways?

[Anonymous No.18984003]

>>18959225
This thread convinced me, I just received it. I think it was cheap, ¥1.343.

[Anonymous No.18984048]

Horror’s Call is pretty good for this desu. Lots of spooky gothic imagery.

[Anonymous No.18984198]

>>18960862
>Eggers
Jesus, what has /lit/ become?

[Anonymous No.18984204]

>>18972507
The story is basically about a giant mecha knight.

[Anonymous No.18985431]

>>18953497

[Anonymous No.18987400]

>>18953497
Bump

[Anonymous No.18987546]

>>18972979
>I don't speak German.
It's been translated, I just grabbed the German cover off of Google. The Frank Braun trilogy has three of his books in English: The Sorcerer's Apprentice, Alraune, and Vampire.

[Anonymous No.18987618]

Is "Gothic Violence" a Gothic book?

[Anonymous No.18987630]

How the fuck is this thread still up after 6 days?

[Anonymous No.18987735]

>>18987630
because we are booooomping at opportune moments, now shhhh.

[Anonymous No.18987767]

>>18987630
/lit/ is a slow board

[Anonymous No.18988994]

>>18953497
Bump

[Anonymous No.18989560]

Is there any contemporary gothic novel worth the read?

[Anonymous No.18990159]

>>18983952
It's hard to pin down exactly what a genre is, but in general terms Gothic Literature has to do with superstitions, mystery and suspense. Often it included a tragic romance but that was usually used to throw the dark world in contrast or show how said dark world can bring tragedy to something that should be happy.

[Anonymous No.18990217]

>>18983952
https://youtu.be/gAQ-uBEy2iA
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3htt49

[Anonymous No.18990960]

>>18953497
Has anyone read power of darkness? It was a Finnish translation of dracula that’s been recently translated back to English. I heard it’s quite different from the original English version. It’s alot more violent, sexy and less nuanced.

I also heard about a Turkish version of Dracula which the English translation of the Turkish translation of Dracula is titled Dracula in Istanbul. It’s a bootleg translation of Dracula mixed in with some Turkish nationalism.

I wanna know if you guys heard about them or even read them, and what’s your thoughts on the translations.

[Anonymous No.18991047]

I cant believe this is still up. Anyone know where I can grab a copy of Artaud's The Monk?