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Bros...his shit is as good as they say
What do I read next besides the 200+ old and obscure books he mentions?

>> No.18952865

>>18952803
Why are you gushing over a deformed trust fund baby?

>> No.18952899

>>18952865
Because his writing is interesting and in many ways eye-opening.

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>>18952803
2000 year old books.

>> No.18952946

>>18952899
its not

>> No.18952960

>>18952900
Fucking christfags... I'll get to it eventually, okay?

>>18952946
I disagree.

>> No.18952969

>Just replace governments with a tech oligarchy guys
>Noooo don't actually do it!!!

>> No.18952980

whats his views about culture in his utopian society?

>> No.18953008

>>18952980
He barely talks about culture.

>> No.18953081

>>18953008
I suspect that he is just a bugman codemonkey without any taste and wants to universalize his pathetic condition

>> No.18953094

>>18953081
I mean... you're either going to read him or not. I doubt anything posted here will be able to convince you one way or the other.

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>>18952803
>What do I read next besides the 200+ old and obscure books he mentions?
No. Read the books.

>> No.18953303

>>18953298
bruh is that his ex

>> No.18953358

>>18953303
No, that would very disrespectful, that's well known podcast personality, Mrs Ana "skinny but with big tits" Katchmeifyoukan.

>> No.18953363

>>18953358
wat

>> No.18953369

>>18952803
anon its 2022. There was a reason to read him in 09 if you were unemployed and an ex-libertarian. There is absolutely no reason to bother with "neoliberalism except more racist.... also google's ceo will be king" today.

>> No.18953379

>>18953303
he has an ex? last i heard he has 3 moldbuglets

>> No.18953381

>>18953369
Define neoliberalism

>> No.18953391

>>18953381
Neoliberalism is when something you don't like happens.

>> No.18953393

>>18953381
a system of laws designed to maximally empower the rentier class, adjucating as much of the state's revenue collecting ability into their own private coffers as possible. Shit like chicago having tollroads that actually pay private companies that played no role in building them.

>> No.18953398

>>18953369
That's literally not what he advocates though.

>>18953379
Yeah he got some bitch on his dick within months of being single. Some men age into Chadhood.

>> No.18953410

>>18953398
>not what he advocates
Unfortunately when you write in a Straussian manner midwits will always insist that what you REALLY mean is whatever surface level misinterpretation they come up with first.

>> No.18953419

>>18953393
which is not remotely what he advocated

>> No.18953420 [DELETED] 

>>18953094
Explicate motherfucker, speak basedboi. Don't just shit out a thread into existence from what you consumed if you got nothing to say about it.

>> No.18953427

>trust fund kid with spook parents thinks techno neo-feudalism is good
>also wears greaser jacket
lol

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>>18953094
Explicate motherfucker, speak basedboi. Don't just shit out a thread into existence from what you consumed if you got nothing to say about it.

>> No.18953433

desd

>> No.18953440

>>18953393
m8 he wrote an article about a year ago advocating for the government nationalizing the Fed and then literally buying out all financialized assets

Does that sound like a fucking neoliberal to you?

>> No.18953452

>>18953419
>this isn't literally what his "patchwork" funhouse jewish reinterpetation of liberalism was
i actually read his adderal fueled logorhea because i was unemployed at the time he was spewing it forth, and what I always found strange was he was hard pressed to say what he actually disapproved of in the Faggot Regime. He certainly was in favor of their social liberalism, as well "meritocratic" disdain for the poor. The only thing I could come up with is he was mad that he didn't get to hold the whip hand.

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95%+ of the people here who will criticize him have no idea what his actual positions are and have not read him beyond his wikipedia article and a couple /lit/ posts about him.

Leftists are absolutely not ready for him.

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>>18953440
the state doesn't have to buy anything. It would be good for merchants to remember this.

>> No.18953466

>>18953431
Nah I feel too lazy. He's good, he's got the exact same IQ as Uncle Ted, you'll probably learn something. Thinking in stereotypes like 'code monkey bugman' isn't helpful here.

>> No.18953469

>>18953440
He wasn't advocating for that to occur you literal-brained sob-story, he was laying out what would be necessary and what the consequences would be IF anyone wanted to try and do that.

>> No.18953473

>>18953457
Congratulations. Talk about it then.

>> No.18953476

>>18953363
redscarepod

>> No.18953478

>>18953457
Yes and his article is largely based on a very shitty academic piece.

>> No.18953492

>>18953393
Lol moron

>> No.18953530

>>18953466
>Thinking in stereotypes like 'code monkey bugman'
that is exactly what he is thought.

>> No.18953613

patchwork type states WILL exist in the 2100s

>> No.18953646

>>18953466
I'm getting into the UR archives now. It's pretty fun reading.

FYI, Ted K's 167 was a ratio IQ from like fifth grade, not a deviation score.
He took a real IQ test in 1996 and scored a 136. He ironically did better on verbal (138) than performance (124). I don't put that much stock in high IQ but he wasn't close to +4 SD.

Even more tangentially, his subscore pattern is similar to my own result on the openpsychometrics online test. We both did well above average in most subtests but only average in visual memory.

>> No.18953654

>>18953646
https://paulcooijmans.com/psychology/unabombreport3.html

>> No.18953751

>>18953646
And i added the last part because I'm borderline HFASD and it makes me wonder if that's a common subscore balance for spergy types lol

>> No.18953757

Imagine being blown away by software engineer bloggers

>> No.18954013

I'm beginning to feel like an accfag (accfag)

>> No.18954281

>>18952969
Fucking kek. The absolute state of feudalists.

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I only judge literature by the author's physiognomy.

>> No.18954336

>>18952969
>noooooo not leftist tech oligarchy, this isn't how it was suppose to happen!

>> No.18954339

>>18954333
This but unironically.

>> No.18954561

Read all the people that he ripped off, Burnham's Machiavellians, Voegelin, Carlyle. A recent book he's been shilling to people is The Ancient City by Fustel de Coulanges.

>> No.18954562

>>18954333
>Curtis Yarvin was born in 1973 to a highly educated, liberal, secular family[16] and is paternally Jewish.

they all have that physiognomy

>> No.18954565

>>18953427
>heh.... feudalism.. is le bad...
Damn ya BTFO him there kid

>> No.18954578

>>18953457
My experience with his detractors is uniformly this, I ask them what pieces they've read and they haven't read any and only give general sweeping oppositions to abstractions of positions that he doesn't hold. The people who have read him and are critical of him mostly have either extremely shit tier and incoherent arguments (i.e. Neoreaction: A Basilisk) or else publicly attack him solely for clout after pretty much understanding everything. This last category do so in a crypto kind of '50 Stalins' argument where they say he doesn't go far enough. But for the most part the vast majority of people who are critical of him have no understanding of anything he's written.

>> No.18954581

>>18953530
For all his pretenses as a cynical gen x bugman, Mr Moldbug has a very deep soul.

>> No.18954590

>>18954562
you're telling me I should trust a jew?

>> No.18954598

>>18954590
You don't need to trust someone to listen to their arguments and evaluate them for yourself, what are you scared of? He's not going to mind control you from off the page with ancient jewish mind rays

>> No.18954616

>>18954590
yes why not? read weininger

>> No.18955003

>>18953646
Do an actual test administered by a trained psychiatrist. Thanks for the info though, didn't know that

>> No.18955028

read Carlsbad,
this is a fun entry to begin with:
https://carlsbad1819.wordpress.com/2017/12/10/some-ironies-and-curiosities-of-right-wing-history/

>> No.18955156

wow, a thread full of incel faggots

>> No.18955162

>>18953457
I haven't read much myself except for a couple of blogposts here and there, but I tend to agree. I find him really interesting whenever he makes a guest appearance on my favourite podcasts.

If you're a normie lib or an AOC-tranny I understand there Will be some antipathy, otherwise he should be pretty palatable wherever you might be on the political spectrum.

>> No.18955163

>>18955162
Where's you chin Curtis?
Stop shilling your jewfaggotry here

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>> No.18955174

>>18955163
How about you engage on something of substance rather than this catty bullshit

>> No.18955188
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>Um um um um...like...um um um... umm... umm... have you... umm... umm... read BOOK?
Totally worth the Patreon subscription

>> No.18955191

>>18955174
OK Osama Chin Laden
Hope whoever stole your chin didn't vanish in chin air and you'll get it back.

>> No.18955193

>>18955163
I agree he's and ugly and cringe nerd, but I still think he's got some interesting things to say at times.

>> No.18955195

>>18955188
He doesn't have a Patreon bro

>> No.18955197

the new genre of Alt-Jews having Conversations and Dunking On Libs and WASPs is basically IDW 2.0 for dumb hipsters

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>>18955195
referring to pic rel

>> No.18955315

>>18955199
It was leaked, look in the comments on his recent posts

>> No.18955401

>>18954336
The difference is Moldbug's conception would be voluntary. You know, that thing the Right likes and the Left cannot stand? I'd happily live in such a society of I signed up for it and it was sympathetic to my morals.

>> No.18955405

>>18953369
>Imagine thinking tech monopolies aren't going to define the 2030s

>> No.18955409

>>18955028
If we're sharing NRx blogs, I actually liked this take on Moldbug's neofeudal society. If you can get past the autism, it's basically a homeowner's association on steroids. I would live here ngl

https://darkanchorite.wordpress.com/2021/06/21/how-to-establish-a-sovereign-community/

>> No.18955465

>>18955401
>right likes voluntarism
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.18955488

>>18955465
voluntarism on the right is a function of their desire to get away from the left, but the left won't let them leave.

>> No.18955493

>>18955465
Exit, no voice.

>> No.18955499

>>18955465
>I put hahaha that means their arguments are invalid
Yeah it's the Right who shout about seizing other people's property isn't it?

>> No.18955502

>>18955409
Pretty grandiose, but the precedents cited makes me think it could work. Throw in mandatory waifus for all males and I'm in

>> No.18955585

>>18952803
He just makes mental gymnastics to explain how progressivism is to blame for everything and that's why they hold all the position of power, instead of accepting the fact that the problem is capitalism, which co opt progressivist/leftists because they are the genuine threat of the system, not reactionaries. Read some Mark Fisher instead.

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>>18955585
Exactly

>> No.18955606

>>18955585
https://graymirror.substack.com/p/socialism-and-capitalism-are-both

>> No.18955620

>>18955585
Yes, corporations bend over backwards to appeal to leftist ideals because they are the real threat to the system, and not because they are trying to flatter America's ruling class.

>> No.18955638

>>18955585
Another retard hasn't actually read him

>> No.18955716

>>18955585
Mark Fisher was too good for this world.

>> No.18955719

>>18955716
Yeah let's read the political tract of a failure who killed himself, really sounds like a movement that's going places!

>> No.18955726

>>18955719
Well, if people had actually read him then leftism wouldn't have been hijacked by the establishment and now we could have an actual way to fight against it.

>> No.18955736

>>18955726
what does he propose that's anything different from contemporary chapotranny leftism? he wrote for OpenDemocracy btw, not very anti-establishment

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>the establishment isn't pushing *true* leftism! they've been co-opted! down with the traitors!

>> No.18955768

>>18955003
There is absolutely no reason to take an IQ test over the age of 21. Simply see how many standard deviations your income is from the American average. Boom, there is your IQ.

>> No.18955779

>>18952803
He's got such a beta face yet nobody here takes the warning

>> No.18955784

>>18955779
There have been numerous posts ITT attacking his physiognomy

>> No.18955785

>>18955401
>”choosing” your society
Truly a depraved Jewish liberal. I suppose he wants to choose his parents as well to best fit his lifestyle?

>> No.18955792

>>18955785
That's demanding the pioneers play by the same rules as their descendants. If everybody did that, there'd be no descendants in the first place.

>> No.18955821

>>18955592
This cannot be a serious tweet

>> No.18955827

>>18955792
more like its pointing out he doesn't really have any problems with the faggot regime, he's just upset he doesn't hold the whip.

>> No.18955842

>>18955779
By 20 he accomplished more than you ever will.

>> No.18955896

>>18955842
not really, he was obviously under-employed and tweaking for data entry style dildo work in 11 which would put him at 36

>> No.18956176

>>18952803
I just unsubscribed to his substack. It's pretty evident that he's out of ideas. Now all he does is send relationship advice for San Fran "bad boys' and the absolute worst poetry I've ever read.

>> No.18956272

>>18955896
He dropped out of a PhD at 19 to run a successful start-up which allowed him to sit on his ass, read and work on Urbit, which is his real Magnum Opus.

>> No.18956430

>>18956272
Damn I gotta remember this trick to make my PhD washout sound like a work of genius. “No you see, I was needed to consume massive amounts of adderal and write a blog about being a dark lord cause I can notice nigs aren’t very bright.

>> No.18956814

>>18956176
post it then

>> No.18958112

>>18956430
You'll start your PhD at 26 at the earliest, he was doing it at 19.

>> No.18958118

>>18956430
It's always the people who'v'e never read anything by him that are the most hostile

>> No.18958213

>>18955003
I think the openpsych test is informative enough. I just wanted a very rough sense of my cognitive profile.

>> No.18958234

>>18955768
It would be cool if IQ followed a power-law distribution. I guess it kind of does if you look at all species lol

>> No.18958251

>>18952803
You can skip Moldbug and miss absolutely nothing so long as you have read actual thinkers and not some depressed kike programmer.

>> No.18958264

>>18958251
What's the best equivalent of How Dawkins Got Pwned series but for a different "actual" thinker?

>> No.18958272

>>18956272
What successful startup?

>> No.18958348

>>18958272
he worked on this and wrote one of the first kernels for mobile browers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Application_Protocol

>> No.18958449

>>18958118
breh i've read probably 80% of the open letter, and i followed his blog when he was publishing. It was fun because he would get BTFO every day in his combox by real racists who couldn't stop laughing at his how grand theory of history (calvinist (?) quakers (?!??!) did it, here is some 1920 article by the world conference of churches) ends abruptly in 1967

>> No.18958456

>>18958449
>he's not a "real racist"
kek

>> No.18958494

>>18958456
its not enough just to know blacks are stupid, but to also hate them.

>> No.18958506

>>18958112
>he washedout way earlier than you
well grats adderalman, you failed first.

>> No.18958518

>>18958449
The comment section on his Why I Am Not An Antisemite post was hilarious

>> No.18958532

>>18953466
>Thinking in stereotypes isn't helpful here
>invoking IQ
Lol

>> No.18958700

>>18958494
>hating a group so much that they live rent in your skull and inform every choice you make

dang, almost like they own you

>> No.18958842

>>18953298
>2 jews
wow

>> No.18958975

>>18958518
yep, the general impression from his blog was an underemployed guy on speed and addicted to wikipedia. He kept re creating his goofy "caste system in america" optimates, brahmins, , blah blah blah. Ever think about calling them Kohanim? Oh no? that might distract from the dastardly calvinists? well, continue on then!

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>>18958842

>> No.18959431

>>18952803
i love reading his latest stuff about how an apex dark triad alpha deals with a breakup with a 28 year old girl after a 2 month relationship and after his wife died 6 months ago

>> No.18959479

>>18959431
moldberg killed his wife? some dark shit going down in the bay area

>> No.18959485

>>18959381
>>18958842
is she actually jewish? i mean, she's armenian, i thought it was one of those things in which they look the same to outsiders but absolutely hate one another. Jews should circumsize their females so we could confirm/deny it.

>> No.18959665

>>18958264
Hello Auron, lost any weight recently?

>> No.18959702

>>18959665
Meds

>> No.18959705

Call of the Crocodile

>> No.18959710

>>18959702
Don't worry, keep making YouTube videos. I'm sure you'll make a change.

>> No.18959765

>>18959710
>the only person who has ever read UR must be some e-celeb that I'm talking to

>> No.18960593

capital is sentient

>> No.18960635

is that a black person and a pothole? AHHHH HELP ME PETER THIEL AND ROLEMODELLESS GRIFTERS WHO DON'T READ

>> No.18960688

>>18955199
Lolwat. I thought the pic was a shoop. Fucking breeders.

Ok, I gotta say, I kinda like some of his ideas. But more in a descriptive sense. I couldn't care less about the neoreactonary stuff. Fuck godawful ancient values.
Gimme gender accelerationism instead.

>> No.18960730

>>18959431
from where is this? from the podcast with anna khachiyan?

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>>18952960
>I'll get to it eventually
In you won't. You'll jump between "edgy" alt philosophers and secular jews like Moldbug until it's too late and have no one to blame buy yourself. You faggots don't want solutions. You want a costume.

>> No.18961216

>I'm going to write the next Machiavellian Mirror for Princes to get us to the next regime
>turns into an agony aunt column and shitty poetry dump almost instantly

>> No.18961421

>>18959431
>28 year old
Pretty based.

>> No.18961566

his writing on unqualified reservations was far more impressive. but something happened since then, his writing on gray mirror just isnt as great

>> No.18962747

>>18952946
every time i hear someone criticize moldbug it's like this 'he's not good' 'this writing is bad' but no substance, no actual critique, no pointing out specifically how is he wrong. Yeah, i'm thinking he's based.

>> No.18963014

>>18960688
>Gimme gender accelerationism instead.
like what, stuffing even weirder things up your ass?

>> No.18963026

>>18961566
He’s no longer taking adderal. It’s also why he got fat

>> No.18963029

>>18961566
UR was fundamentally anon shitposting that's why it was based

>> No.18963062

>>18952803
Why the fuck would you trust an atheist jew at this point in history? He's just trying to create another honeypot for disaffected men to keep them from returning to Christianity. He's no better than the IDW jews.

>> No.18963234

>>18958348
Damn, the original WAP

>> No.18963271

to those that have read him, what is your favorite piece from UR
mine is from mises to carlyle.
particularly part 2:
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2009/07/why-carlyle-matters/

His defense of slavery and patron-client relationships is probably the most based thing he has ever written.

>> No.18963459

>>18963271
i thought his post-colonial pro eritrea stuff was funny

>> No.18963467

>>18963271
'Open Letter' is my favorite for obvious reasons. It's actually one of the few documents that could actually convert someone IMO, maybe not into a reactionary but certainly into a non-prog.

>> No.18964130

>>18963459
when did he write about eritrea?

>> No.18964218

>>18964130
can't remember, its been like a decade since i willingly read something written by a jew.

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>>18963062
Does this man sound like he's trying to promote atheism?

>> No.18964517

He looks Chad as fuck in dat leather
Just need ta lift the iron bro

>> No.18964615

>>18953081
I mean he is a self described atheist who is suspicious of converts

>> No.18964785

>>18963271
My favorite was open letter part 3, a Jacobite theory of history

>> No.18965732

>>18952803
It's definitely good food for thought but I resent the way he writes. He makes it so verbose that it's a chore to get through, then acts like it's your fault for not getting it

Mfer your ideas aren't that complex, just edit it a bit

>> No.18966849

>>18952803
This channel does a good job covering this topic
https://youtu.be/yhLPzKonBBA

>> No.18966857

>>18955401
Checked and based.Left-tard weep

>> No.18966867

>>18955821
wake up and smell the coffee, this people don't live in the same universe as you

>> No.18966881

>>18966867
Stop bumping your midwit thread

>> No.18968243

>>18966881
Not his thread bruv

>> No.18968562

>>18955592
Media lost it's shit over the afghan thing and such though

>> No.18968567

>>18960635
fucking kek

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>>18955465

>> No.18968886

>>18952803
His stuff about the holocaust and how it definitely WAS 6 million. Read that anon. He tells you how clever his article is going to be at the beginning so you know how cleverly he's proving that, whilst everything else in this modern world is nonsense his people definitely were genocided at a supernaturally rapid rate in death showers for no reason at all.

>> No.18968927

>>18956272
Did he do that without access to exclusively 'Jewish free loan' capital which, in our capitalist society he hates, ensures success for almost all Jewish ventures?