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Is there a homosexual canon, /lit/?
no don't fucking link me to Love, Simon

>> No.18935633

Memoirs of Hadrian

>> No.18935644

>>18935620
Start with Symposium

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>>18935620
Sappho, Theognis, Pindar, Plato (not for his own opinions or inclinations, but for the content of his dialogues), Xenophon (ditto), Theocritus, Catullus, Virgil (Eclogues), Horace, Martial, Meleager, Petronius ... well just read this >>/lit/thread/S18910539#p18911132 (This one is a list of homosexuals, however, not writers who wrote homosexual themes)

Sophocles and Aeschylus would probably be included but unfortunately their relevant works have mostly been lost (though there are fragments of pederastic scenes from Sophocles and a few lines from Aeschylus’ Myrmidons). There are homosexual love poems attributed to Plato in Ancient Greek anthologies but these attributions are probably spurious. Similarly, while Virgil and Ovid treated of homosexual themes, and thus warrant inclusion in a homosexual canon, there’s not much to suggest they had any strong homosexual inclinations themselves (Ovid explicitly said he preferred heterosexuality).

I really would like to find a nice relatively definitive list of medieval Islamic poets who treated of homoerotic themes. There’s a lot of ambiguity. I think one of the most interesting sources is Attar of Nishapur. I don’t know if he was interested in homosexuality personally, but he relates a lot of good anecdotes about Mahmud and Ayaz in his various books.

>> No.18935703

>>18935664
Some other things that I couldn’t really include in my list (of persons rather than genres) but that warrant mention are the feudal Japanese genre of ‘chigo monagatari’ (acolyte tales) and various long chapters in Chinese histories like the ones written by Han Feizi about Chinese Emperors and their male favourites (there is also if I recall correctly a chapter on selecting male lovers in at least one Muslim ‘Mirror for Princes’). From the 1600s Ihara Saikaku’s Mirror of Male Love is a good source, as are Li Yu’s novels. There is also a fascinating medieval poem called ‘A debate between Ganymede and Helen’ whose main contention is whether homo or heterosexuality is superior (obviously heterosexuality wins, but homosexuality gets a relatively good hearing).

>> No.18936318

Thank you for the high quality responses

>> No.18936327

>>18935620
W. Somerset Maugham
Tennessee Williams
Truman Capote
Gore Vidal

>> No.18936341

>>18935664
All homosexuals are animals.

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the persian boy